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Kinky Speaks: Independent Texan Talks Democrats, the Tea Party and Rick Perry

Posted: 08/29/11 04:21 AM ET

When somebody you think pretty highly of does something that seems crazy, the fairest thing you can do is ask them, "Why the hell did you do that?" Kinky Friedman's somebody I've followed for years, first as the bandleader of the Texas Jewboys and then as an independent candidate for Governor of Texas. So when he seemed to endorse Rick Perry for president this week, I asked him why the hell he did that. We spoke by phone after his plane trip was cancelled by Hurricane Irene.

"Well, now, hold on," he says. "I don't exactly endorse people. I mean, I'm not some Tammany Hall boss." The next day he called me to clarify. "Did I 'endorse' him? We don't need to get all Talmudic here. We're taking a chance whoever gets elected." Kinky's erudite and passionate, and disappointed enough in both parties to ask, "Where do you go to give up?"

"Politics is the most corrupt it's ever been. Apathy is a killer. And there's no Harry Truman to lead us. Roosevelt's people wouldn't even stand when Truman entered the room. But he made the tough decisions anyway. This president is always behind the curve, waiting so see how it's going to turn out before he acts."

Those remarks echo the president's approval ratings among independents like Kinky, which have fallen to 39% from a high of 63% in 2009 and 52% earlier this year. The more the president tries to attract them with compromise, the more he seems to lose them. Kinky Friedman speaks for an idealistic, wounded strain of American independent voters. Like him or not -- and I like him a lot -- Democrats ignore voices like his at their own peril.

Unacknowledged Pollsters

So what kind of Texas politico drops the word "Talmudic" into a conversation? Kinky Friedman's been a songwriter, singer, humorist, Peace Corps volunteer, surf rocker, novelist, animal rescuer, cigar dealer, and candidate for Governor of Texas. That may be more lives than a cat. But some people don't think he landed on his feet with those Rick Perry comments.

I'm not willing to dismiss him. Maybe that's because I feel a kinship with all guitar strummers, songwriters, and honky-tonk-haunting preachers. Or maybe I'm just an old romantic who thinks singing in any joint with a liquor license is a theological vocation, a ministering to the heartbroken masses by taking on their pain. Or maybe I just like Kinky Friedman.

Not everybody agrees that country singers are barroom Bodhisattvas. Not everybody thinks songwriters are today's version of the poets who Shelley (Percy Bysshe, not Fabares or Winters) said were "hierophants of an unapprehended inspiration; mirrors of the gigantic shadows which futurity casts upon the presen ... unacknowledged legislators of the world." Legislators? Songwriters can barely collect their royalties nowadays.

But they do give a voice to the voiceless. That's why we thought it was important back in April 2009 when right-wing and Republican country singer John Rich wrote his song about bank bailouts and unemployment and got Mickey Rourke and lefty hero Kris Kristofferson to act in the video. A lot of people were issuing similar warnings back then, too -- that if the Administration appears to ally itself with Summers, Geithner, and Wall Street instead of the jobless and underearning people on Main Street, there would be hell to pay. Then the Tea Party came along, Democrats lost Congress, and everything changed.

Is it time to listen yet?

Looking For Love ...

Things got a little heated between Friedman and Perry back in 2010, when Kinky was polling at 23% (as much as the Democrat) and Perry was at 35%. Back in 2009 Kinky said that "Exhibit A for term limits is Rick Perry." He also said that his dog could run Texas better. (I say it depends on the breed. Australian shepherds are smart, but if it's a collie I'm gonna have to stick with Rick.)

But in a Daily Beast piece this week headlined "Kinky For Perry" (he didn't pick that title) Kinky wrote that Perry's a "good, kind-hearted man" who called him three days after the election (which Kinky initially refused to concede) and gave him "a gracious little pep talk." Kinky also wrote that Perry "once sat in on drums with ZZ Top," a fact which I'll confess caused me to waver for a moment in my own feelings about the governor.

Kinky gives Perry a lot more economic credit than I do. "Could Rick Perry fix the economy?" he writes. "Hell, yes! " Texas is pretty much in the middle of the pack on employment rates, and a lot of that was accomplished with $6 billion in bailout money. Surging oil prices made up most of the difference. But Perrynomics isn't the real story here. There's more of a lesson in Kinky's disappointment than in his hopes. It's easy to say that anyone who turns to a Republican is, in the words of the old song, looking for love in all the wrong places. But why aren't they getting that love at home?

Polls give us quantitative data. But only people tell stories. I want to know know where this story came from.

Interview With the Kinkster

The man who wrote "They Ain't Makin' Jews Like Jesus Anymore" is soft spoken, erudite, and thoughtful. But he opens with a one-liner from his Daily Beast piece: "I've already said that when I die I want to be cremated and the ashes scattered in Rick Perry's hair." I'm tempted to point out that this could bring back some of Perry's mysteriously vanished gray, or that you could hide a whole corpse in there. But Kinky's speaking from genuine idealism -- and genuine hurt -- so I restrain myself.

I ask if he voted for Obama in 2008. He did. He says of Perry, "We were bitter rivals. But there's the Lincoln/Churchill tradition. Lincoln said he would act 'with charity toward all and malice toward none' and formed the Team of Rivals. And Churchill brought his lifelong rival into the Cabinet when he finally became Prime Minister at sixty-five, after everybody had written him off."

(Kinky's sixty-six, but says he 'reads at a 67-year-old level.')

"I believe there's something in Rick that's waiting to be brought out." Friedman also speaks warmly of Bill Clinton and has kind things to say about the Bushes. I tell him that I worry less when Republicans and Democrats disagree than I do when they agree, as with the Deficit Commission and cutting Social Security. "That's a point," he says.

"Politics is the only profession where corruption is legal. There are only three guys in Washington who aren't corrupt: Bernie Sanders, Ron Paul, and Dennis Kucinich."

Perry vs. Obama

So who would Kinky vote for today in a Perry/Obama race?

"I don't know," he says. "I have to ask God before any big decision like that. But I have some insight about people. Churchill was the only one who knew you can't negotiate with Hitler. And like Thomas Edison and Bill Cosby both said, the surest route to failure is by trying to keep everybody happy. At some point you've got to get out from behind the curve. You've got to make some courageous or unpopular decisions and stand by them."

"I don't know," he says. "In many ways Rick Perry and Barack Obama are the same person, admiring each other's reflection in the mirror. They're both great campaigners, and they've both been groomed for this for a long, long time. I don't know if Rick Perry has greatness in him, but he might."

Because he's a nice guy?

"More than that. Because he's a decent guy. And I'm afraid that in three years Obama's showed us that he has the soul of a Harvard law instructor. I think he's proved he's never going to be a leader or a statesman. He's a great candidate, but when you see somebody perpetually behind the curve, waiting to see what happens, that's the mark of a true politician.

"With the Iranian revolution I thought, what would JFK or Churchill have done? You've got to inspire people at those times. I know about being inspired. JFK inspired me to join the Peace Corps, where I spent two years in Borneo earning eleven cents an hour and loving it."

OK, we say. You're unhappy with the president. But why Perry? "Maybe he won't be any better," Kinky answers, "but maybe if he's elected president he'll have the epiphany Obama never had, that he's now walking with destiny, to use Churchill's words. He has to represent all the people. I think Perry has a quiet strength about him."

"I've always said about politics, it's the only profession where the more experience you have, the worse you get."

We're still not getting the Perry attraction, so we try an analogy: You know, we say, when you go to a bar to hear a new guitar player and he's really good technically, but he doesn't have the feel. Is that what you're saying? The president is like some flashy studio guy and Perry's rough and sloppy, like Keith Richards on a bad night, but like Keith he's got the feel?

Kinky laughs. "No. They're both studio guys. I always say people who go into politics started life as hall monitors, and Perry and Obama both have that. I'm not sure Rick would be that much better, but he has possibility. The problem is the two parties. They're the Crips and the Bloods, and politicians are essentially devious and deceitful. It really is demoralizing."

Spiritual Integrity

Well, we say, let's not get demoralized. Who in this country, politician or not, would be a great inspirational leader? "Musicians," he says, "but you gotta go to the ones that are damned near 70. You go to a Levon Helm concert, you know you've seen something real. Merle Haggard, Kris Kristofferson, Willie Nelson."

Kinky's a serial entrepreneur. "We have a new brand of tequila coming out. 'Kinky Friedman's Man in Black Tequila.' It's dedicated to Zorro, Paladin, and Johnny Cash." Is this product placement time? "Oh, I was just thinkin' if we had guys with that kind of spiritual integrity running our country we'd be in a lot better shape."

We mention that Richard Boone (who played Paladin) was ugly as hell. "Hey," Kinky says, "Don't say that! People say I look like him." My point, I say, is that he'd never get a job in Hollywood today with head shots that look like that. Isn't that what's wrong with politics, too? That leads us into an entirely different discussion -- about the soullessness of modern music and movies, about Billy Bob Thornton, and other non-political topics. I hope we can continue that talk someday. But today's subject is politics.

Wakeup Call

It's striking when an independent politician who keeps invoking the Lincoln/Churchill spirit of reconciliation -- which is supposed to be Obama's specialty -- expresses such disappointment. It goes along with something I've been saying for a long time: Independents want conciliatory leadership, but only after it stands for something first. Even the Truth and Reconciliation Commissions in South Africa asked people to acknowledge the difference between right and wrong before granting their forgiveness. The Democratic Party has blurred its own sense of what's right and wrong these days.

"There needs to be a wakeup call to Democrats," Kinky says, "of whom I used to be one. And I find all this mockery of the Tea Party unseemly." (We once reached out to Tea Party leaders in the hope we could find common ground on Social Security.)

"To people like me, the Tea Party kinda has that spirit. It's of the people, by the people, and for the people. It's been effective because it does what Democrats used to do, which is stand up for the people. Democrats used to be people like Barbara Jordan -- the Constitution was her secular bible -- Harry Truman, Ann Richards, Sam Rayburn, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins."

"But they're gone and it shows."

A Demographic of One

Kinky Friedman public persona is that of a particularly smart and cynical barroom philosopher, a cigar-smoking wiseass with a brain. But he also runs a shelter for animals, interviewed celebrities about their pets, and wrote a book about childhood heroes like John Wayne and Barbara Jordan. So I take his comments as the sign of a broken heart, not a cynical mind.

I may disagree with Kinky about some things. But I share his idealism, his frustration, and the heroes he loves. He's giving a voice to widespread disaffection among smart, compassionate people. You could say that he's so unique that he's a demographic of one. As Kinky goes, so goes... well, Kinky. But he's an capital-"I" independent, which makes him the Holy Grail of Presidential politics. And he's a disaffected Democrat like the ones that stayed at home in 2010 and may again in 2012.

RIck Perry may be just a place-holder for a lost sense of political integrity and vision. But if he can play that role for Kinky Friedman, he can play it for others. Kinky's disappointment in Obama and other Democrats expresses the woundedness of swing voters. Winning them back will take courage, decisiveness, and a clear expression of values.

I tell him I think Perry's nuts when he talks about economics or Social Security, but I'd be curious to sit down and try to get a bead on his character. "Well, maybe we're getting somewhere," he says.

Soul and Inspiration

How do we get the soul, the heart, the inspiration back into our politics? There's a long pause on the other end of the line. "We have to ask the Lord."

As a spiritually-bent person myself -- whose Higher Power may on any given day be either scientific and logical or mystical and inexpressible -- I'm struck silent for a second. Then I allow that yes, sometimes you have to plead your case in a Higher Court. Kinky recycles another line: "The Lord will tell Rick Perry what to do, and Rick will tell me."

If Rick Perry tells you, we ask him, will you pass the word? Because He won't speak with us directly and I doubt Rick will tell people like me. "All I'm saying," says Kinky,"is that we need somebody with the spiritual chops to lead. We need a president who will be the president for all the people in his heart."

Then Kinky Friedman waits for the hurricane to pass so he catch a plane so he can play some songs and tell some stories somewhere in the great big broken heart of America. And the rest of us move one more day closer to the election of 2012.

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(Kinky didn't ask me to plug his Utopia Animal Rescue Ranch. I just feel like doing it. You can donate here. Think he's nuts for saying those nice things about Rick Perry? Then donate even more than you would've otherwise. That'll show him.)

 

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getsit
good morning, I'm here
01:05 PM on 08/30/2011
I've always liked Kinky Friedman but I disagree with him supporting Perry because I think he's an already known quantity with no quality to be found. Showing admiration for other Texans like Molly Ivins and Ann Richards (I adored them both and wish they were still here to speak the truth with humor) shows his heart is in the right place. But supporting Perry shows his hope for the future is getting in the way, because there is not bright future for us with Perrry or any of the other Republican candidates currently running.

As for Obama, I would like to have some other Democrat running. But I will vote for him because voting for any of the current Republicans will ALWAYS bring us more of the same status quo we've been getting for 40 years now (in other words, the shaft for the people). If they can find someone like Ike to run, but no, even if they found someone like him to run the Republican party is so far right his own Republicans wouldn't work with him.
11:33 AM on 08/30/2011
Kinky you didn't pen it but you sang it. This is your song today now more than ever.
SOLD AMERICAN

Faded jaded fallen cowboy star
Pawn shops itching for your old guitar
Where you've gone, it ain't nobody knows
The sequins have fallen from your clothes

Once you heard the Opry crowd applaud
Now you're hanging out at 4th and Broad
On the rain wet sidewalk, remembering the time
When coffee with a friend was still a dime

Chorus:
Everything's been sold American
The early times are finished and the want ads are all read
Everyone's been sold American
Been dreaming dreams in a rollaway bed

Writing down your memoirs on some window in the frost
Roulette eyes reflecting another morning lost
Hauled in by the metro for killing time and pain
With a singing brakeman screaming through your veins

You told me you were born so much higher than life
I saw the faded pictures of your children and your wife
Now they're fumbling through your wallet & they're trying to find your name
It's almost like they raised the price of fame

Everything's been sold American
The early times are finished and the want ads are all read
Everyone's been sold American
Been dreaming dreams in a rollaway bed

Rick Perry?! Really?! Really???!
11:11 AM on 08/30/2011
I like Kinky but this was so horribly written I couldn't even make it through.
10:36 AM on 08/30/2011
Did many of you not hear
Kinky's subtle, gentle sarcasm!

Let's make him president with a writein ballot.
DanBest
My micro bio is empty
10:25 AM on 08/30/2011
Kinky is the best thing that happened to Rick Perry. He an Carol Keeton split the vote that allowed a very unpopular governer to walk right back into office. Thanks for nothing.
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Derni
10:23 AM on 08/30/2011
Maybe he should ask Cantor to join his band?
10:22 AM on 08/30/2011
Howdy. I'm not from Texas. I don't know Kinky Friedman. I think I *might* have heard of "Texas Jewboys." I don't know Rick Perry. I don't know Richard (RJ) Eskow. That Rick Perry is likeable, decent, "might" have an epiphany that Obama hasn't yet had -- isn't adding to the conversation. It's like sitting in a bar, and I'm the bored bartender because it all sounds familiar, and listening to some guy go on about...not much.

Likeability is fine. Many people find Obama likeable but his likeability isn't helping us much. Maybe he is too likeable for his own (and our own) good. I'm not saying we should elect someone we find un-likeable, or someone we have to hold our nose to vote for, but for the majority of us, that looks more and more possible, mostly because likeability doesn't have anything to do with doing unpopular, difficult, painful things, things we are all going to have to take, in some form or another, and sooner rather than later.
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MyOwnPerson172
Progressive because I have a brain and a heart.
09:51 AM on 08/30/2011
Sorry Richard and Kinky, Obama on his worst day, which is when he is capitulating to Republicans, is still as good or better than a Republican on their best day.
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SitandStay
Lorenzo&BushH8ter
09:39 AM on 08/30/2011
Bernie Sanders, running or not, you'll get my write-in vote.
The U.S. is controlled by the U.K. and France.
RedneckLiberal
Redneck is not synonymous with Conservative
09:36 AM on 08/30/2011
"but maybe if he's elected president he'll have the epiphany Obama never had"

If your best hope is that a corporate candidate will maybe have an epiphany then you are pretty much screwed.

I'm normally a fan of Eskow's articles, but this one appeared to be a retelling of an interview with someone who is willing to ignore the actions of politicians and vote for them because he thinks they are 'nice'. That is the exact same attitude that gave us GWB.
09:25 AM on 08/30/2011
Glad to read that the Kinkster hasn't become a pod person, but here's the problem: good manners have nothing to do with good decisions. Being gracious in victory is lovely, but did you see Perry's academic record? Have you checked what he's actually done in Texas? Perry is proud of putting creationism in schools, eager to put his religious beliefs ahead of the law, firm in his stance that women who don't want to remain pregnant should be forced to stay pregnant against their will. He has done terrible things to Texas schools and jobs and prisons, and he wants to expand his control to the national level. Is it great to do a rotten job if you smile the whole time?

Look, the last Texas governor was also a decent guy, too -- I doubt he'd cheat at cards or kick his dog or anything -- but when he became President, he drove the country off a cliff. Rick Perry is just that much smarter, and can hit the gas pedal that much harder. Kinky's a swell old boy, but he is dead wrong about Perry's political leadership. If he was trying to return the favor of kind words, he could talk about Perry's manners all day. But he shouldn't confuse having nice manners with being good at his job.
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Sherman Yellen
playwright, memoirist
08:58 AM on 08/30/2011
If you read Paradise Lost (no easy task) you will discover that the Devil has all the good lines. There is an attraction towards the demonic that exists in many, and the splendidly named Kinky seems to feel it more than many do who listen to what a man says, not how friendly he is to the self-loving Kinky. Perry is an avowed enemy of all that keeps the poor and the elderly, and today's struggling middle class from deepest poverty and actual starvation - he claims to save the country by destroying Social Security and other government services. Because Obama often stumbles doesn't mean that Perry strides to the rescue. Most tyrants are decisive all the time - that's a feature of those whose primary passion is power. Perry will do anything to push further down those who are at the bottom, and climb over them as he appoints fellow radical conservatives to the courts, and pokes Texas size holes in the social safety net. Even in the 19th century with men like Teddy Roosevelt as President a Perry would be considered a danger to the very democracy he wishes to lead. He is a walking hairdo with a good dentist - and that's not a halo circling his head. Every so often a Perry comes along to threaten the moral fabric of the country - by preaching his old time religion - and practicing new time selfishness.
09:49 AM on 08/30/2011
Bravo! Can only agree with your every word!
09:50 AM on 08/30/2011
Wow, that was good! Fanned and faved. I live in Texas and couldn't agree with you more. Our local paper has been getting heat over publishing articles and letters that are not favorable to Perry. The editor wrote an article stating that he had not received any articles or letter praising Perry, even from conservative writers, and that the newspaper's job wasn't to help Perry's campaign. The editor even told some of the complainers that he would publish their letters praising Perry if they wrote them, but they all refused.
07:29 AM on 08/30/2011
Apparently Kinky thinks Perry has "decency" because he was nice to HIM after his stunt candidacy for governor failed. It's just typical narcissism - which is the one true religion in these United States nowadays.

Sorry - it's not decent to execute innocent people. It's not decency to lie about the federal aid that jacked up your economy. Not decent to tout job creation without admitting that almost all of the jobs are poverty level, or that you preside over one of the poorest populations in the country, Not decent to rob your school system of resources when it's already the worst in the nation. Not decent to have the largest percentage of citizens, including children, with no access to health care. And not decent to lie to people that Social Security is a ponzi scheme, when the only way it becomes a ponzi scheme is if they listen to you and destroy it.

But hey, Rick Perry was real nice on the phone to Kinky, so he's a great guy! When can we stop listening to self involved, self worshipping celebrities when it comes to our political future?
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White Raven
Eyeballs are tasty
06:56 AM on 08/30/2011
I always did like Kinky.
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probo
fear is a waste of my time
08:11 AM on 08/30/2011
I still always do like Kinky...
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White Raven
Eyeballs are tasty
08:54 AM on 08/30/2011
And I like that you like Kinky!
06:28 AM on 08/30/2011
That's a lot of blah blah blah which all manages to ignore the fact that Perry WANTS TO DESTROY SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.

That is all anyone needs to know. Sorry, Kinky, you can go ask the Lord all you want, but you've got the money not to care about all the irreparable damage Perry is TELLING us he'll do.