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On Social Security, Say It IS So, Joe!

Posted: 08/16/2012 1:49 am

What Vice President Joe Biden said today was, to use his now-famous phrase, "a big effin' deal." No, we're not talking about his "chains" comment which, as usual, has fascinated a press corps obsessed with taking statements out of context and playing "gotcha" games. We're referring to the comments he made about Social Security in a Virginia coffee shop.

From a press corps pool report, as relayed by NBC News:

"Hey, by the way, let's talk about Social Security," Biden said after a diner at The Coffee Break Cafe in Stuart, Va., expressed his relief that the Obama campaign wasn't talking about changing the popular entitlement program. "Number one, I guarantee you, flat guarantee you, there will be no changes in Social Security," Biden said, per a pool report.
As if that weren't enough, Biden said it one more time:

"I flat guarantee you."

What does it mean when those words come from the Vice President of an Administration that's been talking for years about a deal to cut Social Security? A lot.

Could the Vice President have been "off the reservation," as the saying goes, speaking unscripted words that don't have the White House's full backing? Possibly, but it seems unlikely. These words sound like they were pretty well thought out: "Hey, by the way, let's talk about Social Security."

And the Vice President said "I guarantee you" -- not once, not twice, but three times.

It's true that the President has spoken about making cuts to Social Security as part of a larger deal, even saying things like this (unwisely, in our opinion): " Okay, we'll make some modest adjustments that are phased in over a very long period of time. Most folks don't notice 'em."

We criticized him for those words then, and if he repeats them we'll criticize him again. But this is a sign that the White House's thinking may have shifted now that Paul Ryan's in the race. Not only has the Republican Party shown that its most intransigent wing is now in the ascendancy, making a post-election deal unlikely, but the Ryan nomination makes it easier to draw a clear distinction between the parties on Social Security and Medicare.

Ryan may be laying low on Social Security right now, but he's on record as supporting the unpopular plan to privatize it. Legislation he co-sponsored in 2005 would have allowed workers to divert up to 40 percent of their contributions into private accounts -- accounts that would have enriched Wall Street bankers and then would have been devastated by the financial crisis those bankers created in 2008.

Ryan's Social Security plan would have drained nearly five trillion dollars from the Social Security Trust Fund which Americans rely upon for future benefits, according to Social Security's Chief Actuary. It would have cut guaranteed benefits by nearly 40 percent when it was fully implemented. Ryan's bill would have funneled billions to Wall Street bankers - and this supposedly "fiscally serious" politician's plan would have forced the government to borrow $1.2 trillion which it wouldn't have been able to repay until 2083.

That makes this the perfect time for the Administration to describe a stark difference between its ticket and the GOP's: They'll cut your Social Security and we won't. They'll privatize it to make bankers rich off the public dime -- think of it as another bailout -- and we won't. They'll drive the nation deeper into hock to benefit their rich friends, and we won't.

And the White House can even add, as Vice President Biden did: We flat out guarantee it.

Why have the Vice President say it first? Remember, Vice President Biden also spoke out in support of gay marriage shortly before the President did. Part of the Number Two guy's job is to take some arrows for the boss. That gives the President's team the chance to see what works and doesn't work in the messaging before he speaks up.

To which we say: Great. If we're going to criticize the top guys when we disagree with them, we should have their back when they do something we support. Mr. Vice President, we've got your back on this one. Mr. President, we'll have yours too.

And they'll need it. There's a highly-funded, highly misinformed, highly misleading manufactured "consensus" in Washington around the idea that cuts in Social Security benefits need to be cut. They trade in a small but widely disseminated body of lies, and they're going to fight this with everything they've got.

The coffee was barely cold in that Virginia coffee shop when The Washington Post, which is Ground Zero for this dishonest cabal, went on the attack against the Vice President. The Post Editorial Board, which would have repeatedly been sued for journalistic malpractice if such a thing existed, even mendaciously repeated the often-disproven lie that Social Security is "going broke" when it attacked Mr. Biden.

Shame on them for lying.

"Is 'going broke' too strong?" the Post Editorial Board asks rhetorically. "Well, let's ask the experts -- the trustees of the Social Security Trust Fund... " The editorial then takes a lot of language out of context before stating the trustees' conclusion that Social Security's trust fund (which doesn't include the billions in revenue the plan collects each year) will "become exhausted and unable to pay scheduled benefits in full on a timely basis in 2033."

Let's ask that question again: Is "going broke" too strong?

"Broke": According to Merriam-Webster, it means "penniless."
"Broke": According to Cambridge Dictionaries it means "without money."
"Broke": According to MacMillan Dictionary it means "to have no money." And "go broke," according to MacMillan, means "to no longer have any money and be unable to pay what you owe."

The fund will continue to pay full benefits, with money in the bank, until 2033. It will pay most of those benefits -- 75 percent -- after that, because it will be collecting hundreds of billions of dollars each year in new revenue. Yet the Post says that it will be "penniless," will "have no money," will be "without money," or will be "unable to pay what it owes."

Liars.

Washington's lousy with insiders who are willing to peddle dreck like this. It would make sense for the White House's calculus to include letting Joe Biden take the heat for a while before the President makes his case.

Of course, as we've already said, Biden could simply be off-message. If so, the President's campaign is likely to incur real damage if his team tries to walk it back. But it seems more likely that this a prelude to comments from the President in which he'll explain how he has "evolved" on this issue.

That seems much more likely -- and much smarter. A firm stance in defense of Social Security -- and then Medicare -- could be spun off into a number of winning themes for the White House, such as:

A youth issue: All the DC insiders' plans to cut Social Security are designed to hurt young people the most. Defending Social Security for younger people is a great way to energize the demoralized and disillusioned young people who are graduated with record student debt into the worst job market in modern memory.

An issue for seniors: That should need no explanation.

A 99 percent/tax fairness issue: The best way to stabilize Social Security's finances is by lifting the payroll tax cap and a financial transactions tax, and therefore asking the wealthiest among us to help undo the harm they've caused through exploding wealth inequity and Wall Street gambling.

Of course, the White House could say all the right things about Social Security -- and then make that December deal and cut it anyway. But when candidates "flat out guarantees" something, that gives citizens a lot of leverage to pressure them with after the election.

Citizen action was able to stop the President from offering Social Security cuts in his 2010 State of the Union message. It can work again, especially if the White House makes a clear stance like this a central part of its campaign. Could there be a fight in December? Sure -- but this makes it much more likely that we could win that fight.

And enough talk about fighting. Let's have a swords-into-plowshares moment. Right now I'm givin' it up for Joe Biden and the Administration. Biden said the right thing, and he said it straight up, without weaseling or waffling. Keep on saying it, Mr. Vice President, and get the President and the rest of the team to join you. Everybody will win that way.

Say it is so, Joe, and we'll be right behind you.

 

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04:24 PM on 08/20/2012
SS is broke, penniless, NOW.
There is no trust fund.
The trust fund is an empty hole with a slip of paper lying on the bottom, saying "We owe you trillions, Luv, Government".
The cash flow is negative and there's nothing in the bank- that's broke. They can pay their commitments only so long as the rest of the government pays theirs... but look, they're going broke too! They only way the government keeps solvent, and by extension the only way SS keeps solvent, is by steadily increasing the debt limit!

SS has lent its money to the Feds. When you have to meet your lent out all your money, you have no money left. Now we know why the country has an economic crisis: This very basic fact is was entirely lost on Wall Street, and in DC. The Feds can't pay SS back without borrowing. When you cannot meet your obligations without incurring more debt, you are broke.

Tell me again, who's not broke?
11:43 AM on 08/21/2012
"There is no trust fund.
The trust fund is an empty hole with a slip of paper lying on the bottom, saying "We owe you trillions, Luv, Government".

Those "slips of paper" are legal obligations of the United states government just like US Treasury instruments. Are you suggesting that the $11 trillion in Treasuries held by investors are worthless? A great many sophisticated investors disagree. Or are US government obligations worthless only when made to workers rather than the rentier class?
10:17 PM on 08/21/2012
So, are we going to default on our treasuries owned by th Chinese?
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Bart DePalma
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11:05 AM on 08/17/2012
I am so tired of these lies and misdirections.

Social Security has been in deficit for three years now (tax receipts are not enough to pay for the benefits). Obama and Congress worsened this by suspending a portion of FICA taxes and by the administration adding over 3 million "disabled" unemployed workers to the SSI rolls.

The so called SS trust fund does not have a dime of cash and is instead made up of intra-governmental bonds where Congress spent a quarter century of SS tax surpluses and had the Treasury write SS IOUs.

SS is currently making up its tax receipt deficit by cashing in these intra-governmental bonds with the Treasury and the broke Treasury is borrowing money to pay SS.

The SS deficit will keep widening as the boomers retire.

Ryan and many others are offering a plan to bring SS back into a semblance of balance by moving back the retirement age in the future and change the cost of living adjustment from the increase in national income to the inflation rate.

Far from being radical, these reforms are unavoidable and long overdue. The alternative is to join Greece.
12:45 PM on 08/17/2012
watch out! any benefit cut that disregards the money owed to the social security trust fund is
equivalent to a retroactive tax increase which would fall most heavily on middle and working class earners, who, because their income was below the payroll cap, paid the greater percentage of their wages to create the fund. this is the rich stealing from the poor! this is an outrage!
06:44 PM on 08/17/2012
AGREED!
05:21 AM on 08/17/2012
Source. The Social Security Administration

Can the Social Security Trust Funds remain solvent without making changes to the program?

In the annual Trustees Report, projections are made under three alternative sets of economic and demographic assumptions. Under one of these sets (labeled "Low Cost") the trust funds remain solvent for the next 75 years. Under the other two sets (the "Intermediate" and "High Cost"), the trust funds become depleted within the next 25 years. The intermediate assumptions reflect the Trustees' best estimate of future experience.
Some benefits could be paid even if the trust funds are depleted. For example, under the intermediate assumptions, annual income to the trust funds is projected to equal about three-quarters of program cost once the trust funds become depleted. If no legislation has been enacted to restore long-term solvency by that time, about three-quarters of scheduled benefits could be paid in each year.

The Trustees believe that extensive public discussion and analysis of the long-range financing problems of the Social Security program are essential in developing broad support for changes to restore the long-range balance of the program.
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Thordeer
Greed has won over principle.
02:52 AM on 08/17/2012
Is the choice clear? Absolutely; these Repugs are extremists wishing to close down all government for the people.

But Obama is himself 80% of the way there. His education plans--charters, pay for performance, testing testing testing--is 99% Repug. His health care approach is greatly right wing. His trade policy is open trade.

Obama is already a moderate Republican. If we want to avoid the extremists, we have to keep Obama.
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jimdcb911
All gave some, some gave all.
06:57 AM on 08/17/2012
You are so off base you can't find the ball park. First every thing you always accuse the Republicians of doing the Democrats have already commited. As far as Obama being right wing he is so far left you can't find him. He just proves the programs of the left can only surive until it runs out of other peoples money. This heath care plan will do nothing but increase the cost and destroy health care how about becoming informed with facts!
07:38 AM on 08/17/2012
You obviously can't tell the difference between the Right and Left, obviously blinded by party labels and cheering for the home team and are limited to echoing the same old unsourced, disproven but continually parroted lies and bagger blater.
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01:43 AM on 08/17/2012
I still wish Biden and all his gaffes could have been the nominee in 2008. He says what he means and means what he says.
After all, he was just like us and cared about the middle class because he wasn't pampered and hand fed like the rest of the DC elite. He fought for the middle class all his life.
So much to admire. A man for all seasons.
12:57 AM on 08/17/2012
How about making it illegal for large employers to "opt out" of paying into SS?
I worked for a very large Texas school district that did just that, forcing the teachers to pay into a retirement fund instead. This was terribly unfair to those of us who had worked in other states in which we did pay into SS, and who did not plan to continue working in Texas to retirement.
The retirement fund lost a third of the money that I had paid into it in 2008, just before I took my money out when leaving the state.
I'm now physically disabled, but, thanks to Texas, I haven't paid into SS enough to qualify for SSD. I would much prefer that my money had been paid into SS, and I feel that ALL employers should be required to pay into it. If they were, the fund might be healthier.
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jetjocki
Somewhere in the middle
06:06 PM on 08/17/2012
Thank your Union - don't blame the employer.

Employers never want to establish an independent pension fund as it creates a contingent liabilty that makes them responsible for the payouts no matter what may happen to the economy.
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Chris Herz
12:06 AM on 08/17/2012
Mr Obama was all too ready to concede Social Security and Medicare to the Republicans as part of a "grand bargain" after the congressional elections of 2010. Steny Hoyer who would be majority whip in the House in the event of Democratic victory is on the record as saying Social Security and Medicare need to be drastically cut. The program to devote all remaining Federal assets to the wars, to the military and security apparatus, and to the necessary subsidies for the big corporations and banks is a done deal and is entirely bipartisan.
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Joe Economist
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12:04 AM on 08/17/2012
We are assured of one change. The number of days til insolvency will change.
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Heartlight3
Every act is an act of self-definition.
10:28 PM on 08/16/2012
Is anyone taking into consideration that by 2033 a lot of us boomers will have died off and we will be getting back to having more workers paying in and less benefits paid out? I'd sure like to know if any of these predictions are factoring that in.
05:09 AM on 08/17/2012
The ratio of workers to SS recipients will continue to decline; putting a greater burden on our kids and grand kids. This is the "factor" you are missing.
07:40 AM on 08/17/2012
Did you even read what he said?
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Heartlight3
Every act is an act of self-definition.
03:53 PM on 08/17/2012
As the boomers die off and there are fewer people receiving SS and the population grows, how do you figure the ratio will decline? Do you think there will be fewer people working?
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09:17 PM on 08/16/2012
What's the fight again? We call the changes to SSI a "pay roll tax holiday" and not a "cut"? And, then, we will win the "non-fight" of words-into-plowshares! I meant to say "words" into work.
08:58 PM on 08/16/2012
Thank you Mr. Eskow for a very good article. The SS crisis is totally manufactured. The program will be solvent until the 2030's - and with some changes could last many years longer. Thanks to the major news networks and many newspapers (especially, The Washington Post, which I would now put on par with the Washington Times) people are starting to buy into this so called crisis. The right wing has been wanting to kill SS and Medicare for decades!
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skylark
Tangled up in blue..
10:05 PM on 08/16/2012
I completely agree with you. This is an orchestrated campaign of LIES against SS, and therefore against working class seniors.
08:32 PM on 08/16/2012
Joe Biden is an American Treasure......Watching those sick bozos in the media and on the right trash him for his HONESTY is quite disturbing to me..........When being forthright and honest makes you a target, something is VERY wrong in this country. The politically correct types are not meant to be trusted, since their integrity is usually on the auction block. With Mr. Biden, what you see is what you get and it is quite refreshing to see. Take notes Mr. Romney----people respond to openness and honesty....
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Robert SF
06:04 PM on 08/16/2012
The arguments for "fiscal prudence" from Republicans are nothing but phony, cynical ploys to achieve their ideological goals.
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marignymitch
E pluribus unum percent
05:04 PM on 08/16/2012
Biden's position puts him at odd with Obama's. Administration should clarify but won't.
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alex61
02:59 PM on 08/16/2012
Listening to liberals is like listening to those public sector unions who believed (mistakenly) that if they sqwaked loud enough, they could ignore the reality of collapsing state budgets.
Liberals never heard of $16 trillion in debt, the annual debt service that is in the hundreds of billions of dollars, or the fact the social security and medicare are going to need medicare themselves.
Liberals want the easily manipulated to believe that the Democrats can ignore reality just like those unions and nothing has to change. Liberals want these voters to believe that the Republicans (the adults on this issue) are just mean-spirited ogres who want to "hurt" people by rescuing these programs-and America-through restructuring,
This all part of the liberal "We are superior and they are evil" fantasy.
07:46 AM on 08/17/2012
Baggers are so poorly informed that they aren't even aware that Social Security has its own dedicated revenue stream and is unrelated to the deficit. Baggers that wail about spending now are illegitimate since there weren't nary a peep when Cheney proclaimed, "deficits don't matter".
Truth is, baggers like Ryan, who voted for EVERY big spending bill that cam e down the pike, only oppose spending when the investment is in the common good or the general welfare--not when it is billions to to pay off some big money interest.
12:05 PM on 08/21/2012
"Liberals never heard of $16 trillion in debt, the annual debt service that is in the hundreds of billions of dollars, ..."

debt service in 2011 was only 1.5% of GDP and is projected to rise to 3.3% in 2021, about the same as it was under the republican hero Ronald Reagan.
see http://www.cbo.gov/publication/21999, http://www.cepr.net/images/stories/blogs/interest-share_of_GDP_5165_image001.gif