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Ryan's 'Secret' Tape Is Even More Extreme Than Romney's

Posted: 09/24/2012 4:13 pm

When they booed Paul Ryan at the American Association of Retired Persons last week, most people didn't even know he called Medicare and Social Security "third party or socialist-based systems." Or that he said he wants to privatize them in order to "break the back" of a "collectivist philosophy."

On recently transcribed remarks from an audio recording, Ryan said his ideas and values were shaped by an extremist author who thought humanity must "reject the morality of altruism," and that his opinions on monetary policy are guided by a fictional speech which says "the words 'to make money' hold the essence of human morality."

That author says the "collectivist philosophy" Ryan ascribes to Social Security and Medicare is a "looters' credo." By that reckoning, anyone who receives assistance from the government -- including disabled combat veterans or impoverished children -- is a "looter."

"Seniors are looters." Wonder how that would have gone over at the AARP? "Disabled veterans are looters." How would that play at the local VFW?

This recording confirms that the GOP's Vice Presidential candidate is the most politically extreme major-party candidate in living memory. His views have already drawn the opposition of Catholic theologians, as well as advocates for lower-income people, the middle class, seniors, the disabled and children.

If those views were better known, they'd also alienate independents, Democrats and seniors, as well as most Republicans and Tea Party members.

And by "alienate," we mean terrify.

Celebrate

Ryan's 2005 remarks were made at a gathering entitled "A Celebration of Ayn Rand," in which Rand's often-cultlike followers gathered to celebrate their strange heroine.









Audio of Rep. Paul Ryan speaking to the Atlas Society's "Celebration of Ayn Rand," 2005

How extreme, how far from the mainstream, was Rand's thinking? She was profoundly hostile to the idea that human beings should help one another, writing that "If any civilization is to survive, it is the morality of altruism that men have to reject." Rand also wrote that "Achievement of your happiness is the only moral purpose of your life."

Oh, and the hero of Rand's novel The Fountainhead commits an act of terrorism. He's an architect who blows up a building because he's angry that his design was changed.

Watch your back, John Boehner.

People should be free to explore any ideas, no matter how far out of the mainstream, without public censure or government restrictions. I've debated Rand acolytes and have always enjoyed the exchange of ideas. But imagine how the press would react if the Democratic Vice Presidential candidate had attended, say, "A Celebration of Karl Marx," where adherents approvingly quoted the final paragraph of the Communist Manifesto?

That's the paragraph which concludes, "... the ends can only be achieved by forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions."

Sects, Lies, and Audiotape

Ryan said this at the "Celebration":

I just want to speak to you a little bit about Ayn Rand and what she meant to me in my life and [in] the fight we're engaged here in Congress. I grew up on Ayn Rand ... and it taught me quite a bit about who I am and what my value systems are, and what my beliefs are.

Ryan also said "the reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand."

Remember Rand's words: "If any civilization is to survive, it is the morality of altruism that men have to reject." That's the philosophy that Ryan says framed his "value systems" and beliefs.

It's true that Ryan tried to distance himself from Rand this year -- "thrice," as Brad DeLong noted. But the public portions of the "Celebration" speech put the lie to those claims.

DeLong's use of the word "thrice" is a subtle reference to the Biblical story of the betrayal of Christ by Judas, after which St. Peter denied Jesus that many times "ere the cock crowed." But if Ryan has publicly betrayed Rand, he's did so primarily by criticizing her catheism and not her political philosophy.

It's only fair to point out another difference between the Biblical story and Ryan's: unlike Judas (and reportedly a number of Rand's disciples as well), Paul Ryan did not kiss his leader.

Soulless Inspiration

On the contrary. Ryan said that Rand's writing "inspired me so much that it's required reading in my office for all my interns and my staff. We start with Atlas Shrugged ... We go to Fountainhead (note: that's the one whose hero commits a terrorist act) ... (and) I always go back to... Francisco d'Anconia's speech [in Atlas Shrugged] on money when I think about monetary policy."

What did d'Anconia say in Atlas Shrugged? "Do not envy a worthless heir ... Do not think (his wealth) should have been distributed among you; loading the world with fifty parasites instead of one ... " Rand/d'Anconia also says "To love money is to know and love the fact that money is the creation of the best power within you ... "

Here's what Rand-as-d'Anconia says about any wealthy person with a conscience: "Swarms of looters that stay under rocks for centuries come crawling out at the first smell of a man who begs to be forgiven for the guilt of owning wealth. They will hasten to relieve him of the guilt -- and of his life, as he deserves." (Rand's writings frequently exult in the deaths of anyone she considers inferior.)

The speech also says that "Money is the barometer of a society's virtue," adding: "The words 'to make money' hold the essence of human morality... Now the looters' credo has brought you to regard your proudest achievements as a hallmark of shame, your prosperity as guilt, your greatest men, the industrialists, as blackguards... "

For those who prefer democracy to being subjugated by the wealthy, Rand/d'Anconia offers these words: "The rotter who simpers that he sees no difference between the power of the dollar and the power of the whip, ought to learn the difference on his own hide -- as, I think, he will."

(Whips are a favored Rand image; don't even think about it.)

This is the speech that Paul Ryan says he reflects on whenever monetary policy is discussed.

Red Grandmas

Ryan said the political debates in Washington, "whether it's an amendment vote that I'll take later on this afternoon, or a big piece of policy we're putting through our Ways and Means Committee, it is a fight that usually comes down to one conflict: individualism vs. collectivism."

Ryan trains his apocalyptically ideological worldview squarely on the nation's seniors and disabled, calling both Medicare and Social Security "third party or socialist-based systems" that must be dismantled in their present form. He laments the collectivist victory that will take place

... if we do not succeed in switching these programs, in reforming these programs from what some people call a defined benefit system, to a defined contribution system ... and I'm talking about health care, as well -- from a third party or socialist based system to an individually owned, individually prefunded, individually directed system.

Ryan adds: "We can do this. We are on offense on a lot of these ideas."

These words were spoken in 2005. Since then the Democrats have had -- and lost -- Congress, with Social Security a key element in both their victory and their defeat. But despite the election of a Democratic President, Ryan's radical ideas are still on the "offense" and these popular programs are still on defense.

That's Not His Cross to Bear

Ryan's proposals are opposed by virtually all advocates for seniors, the disabled, veterans and children. His ideas also place him in opposition to mainstream Catholic and Christian theology. The audio of his appearance before a group of Ayn Rand followers included a partial transcript, but it was Catholic theologian Vincent Miller who transcribed the parts about Social Security and Medicare and brought them to light.

Catholic theologians have long condemned Ayn Rand's economic philosophy in writings such as the Jesuit-published book,Architects of the Culture of Death. Charles Pierce has been tracking Ryan's conflicts with the Jesuits for a while, and he pointed us to Miller's reaction to this latest audio revelation:

(Ryan's) philosophy leaves no room for Catholic notions of Government in service to the common good, there is no room for a social conception of the human person ... Ryan's policies are based on a political philosophy completely at odds with the principles of Catholic Social Doctrine.
Miller also writes of "the threat this philosophy poses to the Catholic faithful." His words were published online in America: The National Catholic Weekly, which is described as a "Catholic media ministry." Miller's bio states that he is "Gudorf Chair in Catholic Theology and Culture at the University of Dayton."

He is also a very good writer.

The Architects

Ironically, Rand saves her greatest praise for those who 'build' things, a category which ironically includes neither Romney (a career investor) nor Ryan (a career government official). They'e not even architects like Rand's bomb-planting protagonist in The Fountainhead.

But that doesn't mean they don't have a blueprint. From Ryan's "Celebration" speech:

I was the principlal author of the Health Savings Account law, which was an amendment I brought to the floor and passed in the Medicare bill in the last session of Congress. Health Savings Accounts, personal accounts for Social Securities, these are the things that put us on offense, that get the- the individual back in the game and break the back of this collectivist philosophy that really pervades, you know, ninety percent of the thinking around here in this town.

In case that wasn't clear enough, Ryan added: "I think if we win a few of these right now -- moving health care to a consumer based, individualist system, moving Social Security to an individually pre-owned, pre-funded retirement system -- just those two right there will do so much to change the dynamics in this society."

Randian extremism speaks through Romney, too, as when he says of the now-famous and mythical "47 percent," "I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

Maybe he can't -- but Paul Ryan can. Together Romney and Ryan hope to dismantle the programs we've built together as a nation. Those programs guarantee us financial security in our senior years or if we're disabled. They feel the same way about other programs for poor and middle-income Americans. Romney may have done less of the required reading, but he's just as extreme as his running mate.

Chapter and Verse

Bill Maher was right when he said that "the God Mitt Romney worships isn't in the Bible, it's in the Cayman Islands or Geneva," and that putting God on money is "redundant" because money has become our God. You can thank Ayn Rand and her acolytes, from Alan Greenspan to Paul Ryan, for that theological shift.

Mitt Romney's secret video showed that he shares the delusionally sheltered and narcissistic worldview of his ultra-wealthy peer group. Paul Ryan's recording reveals his radical hostility toward the nation's most popular social programs. Together they display a deep reverence for money, a rejection of the social values that have guided our society since it was founded, and contempt for the idea that people can and should work together to solve their common problems.

The story of Judas is found in Matthew 26, but Ryan's Catholic critics are more likely inspired by words from the preceding chapter. That's the one where Jesus says, "Inasmuch as you have done it to the least of these" -- fed the hungry, clothed the naked, housed the homeless -- "so too have you done it unto me."

"The least of these." Or as the Romney/Ryan/Rand crowd calls them, "looters."

(Many people, including my own stepmother, have chastised me in the Huffington Post comments section for saying "thrice" refers to "the story of Judas."It was Peter, not Judas, did the thrice-denying. I know that! But I've always thought of Matthew 26 as Judas' story. I still maintain that I was on sound scriptural ground, but I've changed the wording for clarity - and to stop an incipient Sunday school teachers' riot. Now will you please keep those rulers away from my knuckles?)

 

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08:57 PM on 10/28/2012
INDIVIDUALISM VS. COLLECTIVISM is the issue in this campaign. The single most important goal of the presidential debates was to be heard and understood. They failed to reach the goal. This election is about choice. Who wins will choose a US Supreme Court justice or two, who will determine whether this country goes left or right but ultimately it will end up at the center. In 1978 the US Supreme Court declared Affirmative Action unconstitutional and then limited it to certain very specific cases; in spite of these limitations, there was enough wiggle room; therefore, today we have a Black, Hispanic and Asian middle class, Front and center in our next administration will be the implementation of Obamacare or its dismantlement. The American voters are not stupid; they may surprise us again and choose to continue divided government with a twist-America will fulfill her destiny with her individual will and collective responsibility, in spite of our politicians.
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JDH1950
07:09 PM on 10/28/2012
Can't wait to read the right-wing spin this one into something wonderful and benign. And, also, how they castigate HP for publishing "lies". Logical fallacy/denial land, here we come.
05:49 PM on 10/28/2012
Where's the video for proof?
06:31 PM on 10/28/2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/27/paul-ryan-ayn-rand_n_1459098.html
The link to the article above contains several other links to videos and reporting on Paul Ryan and his devotion to Ayn Rand principals. Until the middle of this year, he was rather open about it. Not only is she an Atheist, which wouldn't be popular in his party, she was very much against the biblical concept of us being our brothers' keeper. This goes against his church's beliefs. I didnt' follow up on every link in the story so it may not be much help. It may be something you could google and find other videos if you're interested.
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NoPartyCharlie
05:16 PM on 10/22/2012
Ayn Rand is totally misrepresented, misconceptualized, and misunderstood. She would of never stood for people like Romney and Ryan. Her ideas come from a different time and Im sure she would not have wanted to have it fossilized in stone without amending or changing. Wall Street was barely a blip on the map and no where in power and control of currency and nations as it is today. Seeing what Goldman Sachs does with pensions, she would of never advocated that. I'm tired of hearing about Ayn Rand who is long gone and I truly believe would never advocate for monsters.
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Jezebelle75
American in Canuckistan
04:21 AM on 10/29/2012
The word you're looking for is "would've", which is a contraction of "would HAVE".

At any rate, monsters are advocating for Ayn Rand, so who's right and who's wrong, really? Too bad she's not around to tell us her thoughts. She died in 1982, when the GOP was just getting its hooks in America through Reagan. I agree, though, she probably would be saying, "That's not what I meant."
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MishMish7
02:53 PM on 10/22/2012
Hey, Ryan, it was a work of FICTION (and not a very good one either). Grow up, read some other things. That someone never outgrows a work of FICTION they read when they were young and tries it live their life by it, it's troubling, especially when they try to make everyone else abide by fictional standards.
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NoPartyCharlie
05:18 PM on 10/22/2012
I agree!!! For starters, reading the constitution and jefferson's Bill of Rights would help. And specifically article 1 section 8, phrase 1. I love how republicans, or tea partiers, claim the constitution and dress as patriots and yell that government has no right to take their money to pay for others, and they obviously don't understand taxes written into the constitution. And where the hell were they during Bush?
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MishMish7
12:24 AM on 10/23/2012
I have a vague idea what they were doing, but I don't think I'd be allowed to write in here :) A lot of the red states squeal about government 'interference' and taxes but in truth those are the states that take the MOST help from federal government support. It's really strange. Someone needs to sit these people down and tell them about this. Not that they'd actually believe it.
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JDH1950
07:10 PM on 10/28/2012
" And where the hell were they during Bush? "

Exactly. F&F.
06:35 PM on 10/28/2012
I agree with your comment. That one could fixate on a philosophy of life so early without growing through exposure to other ideas and experience is disturbing. It may indicate a lack of intellectual curiousity and inability for self reflection. I've felt that everyone should read Ayn Rand's work for discussion purposes. It's a good way of seeing how an idea, taken to an extreme and not balanced, is also not a worldview that most of us want to pursue.
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sski74
01:03 PM on 10/22/2012
Nothing matters unless you vote.
05:32 PM on 10/28/2012
And even then, doesn't matter.
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cuddlebaer
I am retired military and a political activist!
12:27 PM on 10/22/2012
The main thing that makes the world a liveable place is the sharing of the necessities of life! When the rich hoard wealth the majority of people starve. That is the reason so many of the worlds poor and poor nations of the world do not have. The hoarding of wealth is a affront to any good Christian! Why would anyone that is a true Christian vote for Mitt romney or Paul Ryan? These two want to destroy Social Security for the elderly, and the disabled, and destroy Medicare for the elderly, the disabled, and the needy children of America! YES! We as a nation have the god given responsiblity to care for the less fortunate! God made us "homosapiens" the Stewards of the earth! This includes the less fortunate!
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Jen Celli
Done sitting and watching quietly.
10:08 AM on 10/22/2012
Well, Mr. Ryan, you were a "looter" too and you are a "looter" even still. Get a private sector job and give up your government paycheck, your pension and your tax payer guaranteed health insurance. Since you loathe these taxpayer benefits, you shouldn't mind giving them up. Oh wait, Ayn Rand didn't give up hers either, did she? No, she sure didn't turn down her Social Security benefits. I guess it's alright if it's you, not so much if it's for me.
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JDH1950
07:11 PM on 10/28/2012
F&F
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calicoerotica
04:19 AM on 10/22/2012
So what else is new? Ryan loves Rand and is blatantly engaging in class warfare. He's a modern day Edmund Burke with a bent toward totalitarianism. I'm surprised Ryan hasn't come forth with his own Conservative Manifesto, since it's clear he would just as soon see all of the working class serve him and his elitist ilk just as serfs were expected to serve their feudal lords.
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NoPartyCharlie
05:19 PM on 10/22/2012
Edmund Burke and Arron Burrt!
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NoPartyCharlie
05:20 PM on 10/22/2012
Oops I meant Aron Burr
03:19 AM on 10/22/2012
We forget the biggest parasites of all. The ones who claim earth's resources as their own. The ones who enslave others. The unhappy billionaires who cry and fuss like babes. With smooth white hands that never help.
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SeanMartin
Everything in moderation.
11:20 PM on 10/21/2012
Well, if Ryan and Romney really want to go down this road, then, should they be elected, I see no point in filing my taxes this coming year. The government will simply waste it on loose women and lap dancers, so I'll just do the Ayn Rand thing and keep it for my own use. After all, I know better than DC about what to do with my money.
11:11 PM on 10/21/2012
If there is a 'Secret' tape out there, why can't we hear it for ourselves?
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jdubhub
01:48 AM on 10/22/2012
You have to read the article, then click the links that are in the article. What makes it a "secret" is that most people won't take the time to look for the information. http://www.atlassociety.org/ele/blog/2012/04/30/paul-ryan-and-ayn-rands-ideas-hot-seat-again
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JDH1950
07:13 PM on 10/28/2012
You said it! Thanks for spelling it out for them. :) F&F
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kidcat24
Capital is only the fruit of labor. Lincoln
10:14 PM on 10/21/2012
Ryan has been feeding off the people for 14 years and more.
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kidcat24
Capital is only the fruit of labor. Lincoln
10:13 PM on 10/21/2012
From one hypocrite to another hypocrite
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JDH1950
07:14 PM on 10/28/2012
Basically. :) F&F
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tombaan
Live and let live
09:17 AM on 10/12/2012
Ayn Rand was the biggest hypocrite...she preached whole tilt capitalism until she needed welfare...Ryan hides his disgust for the poor and hence comes of as fake when expresses concern for the poor
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Rita Smith Whitaker
Stand for something or fall for anything
12:21 AM on 10/22/2012
You are spot on! Ryan looked so fake at the soup kitchen in Ohio! I am from Columbus Ohio and am disgusted by his actions. And now the charity is losing donations from republicans because they are mad at the president of the charity, telling the truth about Ryan. I want to know why we don't hear anything about this on the news?! Why is there no outrage at what Ryan has done?!
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JDH1950
07:17 PM on 10/28/2012
Because that "Liberal media" is too afraid of being liberal to call the liars out for their lies and deceit.

F&F