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Rob Asghar

Rob Asghar

Posted: May 14, 2010 05:53 PM

Tornadoes, Quakes, and the Myth of Karma

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They say Karma's a bitch. They're too unkind. Recent floods, tornadoes, and earthquakes reveal her as a coolly indifferent, altogether inscrutable customer.

One wag noted a few years ago that the map of the Confederate slave states is pretty much the same as the map of today's Bible Belt. True. And it doesn't take a lot to see that those maps overlap nicely with a map of major tornado activity in the U.S.

So why exactly does Heaven so happily pummel the region that is God's last, best hope for bringing salvation and good values to His beloved creation?

But I realize that's just a matter of a conservative Christian perspective. A devout Muslim in Iran might say that his country is God's last, best hope to stabilize the world.

But wait: You say Iran represents one of the most seismically unstable regions on the planet? And that it was unstable before women started dressing immodestly?

No wonder even the Bible finds a few candid moments to confess that it wonders sometimes if it's all B.S.

But for those of you who are agnostics or skeptics, try not to snort too loudly at concepts of divine retribution. Even the most hardened skeptic, in everyday life, seems wired to find causes and effects in nature, and is ready to interpret a variety of events as convenient, cosmic proofs of his or her personal dogma and ideology.

Where does this universal tendency come from? Some evolutionary psychologists believe it's a result of social life. A tribe that has internal trust and internal altruism will outlive tribes lacking those traits. But a few unseen gods and devils and heavens and hells and future lives go a long way toward ensuring that no renegade within the tribe -- including ourselves -- will exploit the other trusting suckers.

That's one reason we've needed religion, and we may still need it. I'm often surprised by the outrage of the Richard Dawkinses and Sam Harrises of the world, who know better than anyone else why we've evolved as dogmatically rigid religious fanatics, but who are dogmatically, rigidly fanatical about beating religion out of us.

The hope of playing a harp in heaven or coming back to earth as a Brahman does motivate us to stay on the straight and narrow path. And maybe such coercive images are a good thing. But the old myths need a little overhauling.

Prayer and meditation and yoga and altruism offer psychological benefits -- but there is less evidence than ever for a reasonable person to believe that there is special value or protection in prayer to one particular deity or in service to one particular version of God. Heresy just isn't unreasonable anymore.

Sure, antiquity gives us accounts of people being struck dead for hiding their money from the church or for, um, spilling their seed in the wrong places. But science and travel give us more ability than ever to question these myths and to doubt the life-and-death stakes of dogmatic orthodoxy. When it becomes clear that "misbehavior" resulted in offenders being struck by lightning 3,000 years ago but today only results in coveted fame and adulation, we'll need new myths to guide human behavior in directions we find to be meaningful.

This may require an evolution, as it were, of mythology. That's something that has been happening all these years anyway. The Old Testament once implied all divine rewards and punishments would be meted out in this lifetime. When even the Biblical writers noted that their notions divine justice wasn't being served in this lifetime, lo and behold, the concept of an afterlife took hold.

Now that more and more people don't take seriously the idea that heterodoxy from formal traditions will result in instant death or eternal flames, and now that the Iranian clerics and their fundamentalist brethren of other religions can no longer scare large portions of their faithful, religion will change. The vexing question is how it might change in order to be a tool for betterment rather than a tool of power-hungry mullahs, priests, and politicians.

Rob Asghar is author of Lessons from the Holy Wars, a Pakistani-American Odyssey, now available in paperback and on Kindle at Amazon.

 

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LeFlaneur
does nuance.
11:55 AM on 05/25/2010
If you think Obama is late in taking action on this oil spill, then you should be really angry at God.
08:44 PM on 05/24/2010
I found it odd that an article which began by mentioning the concept of Karma never actually discussed the original concept of Karma in its native context. Not that the Hindu concept of Karma is any more or less valid than Abrahamic ideas of divine retribution, but it is a glaring omission.

Karma historically referred to the process by which one's soul was assigned a new form upon being reincarnated. If one had sufficiently cared out their duties in the past life, they would be rewarded when reincarnated in the next life.
04:57 PM on 05/24/2010
The laws of physics describe how the physical world works. Break these laws and there are consequences. Trying to exploit God to explain why things go wrong never has or will change the outcome.
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Tulka2
Solidarity. Courage. Humor.
05:14 PM on 05/24/2010
Your new fan~ Tulka2
10:58 AM on 05/24/2010
How about we stop blaming god for death and retribution period by taking responsibility for our own actions or non-actions towards animals, each other, and our environment. God does not create children to increase the population anymore than god lowers the birth rate by causing plague, famine, disease, or starting wars. Tho' I suspect she may control the growth of humanity in the same manner that she controls over population of other mammals, by raising the ratio of homosexuality versus heterosexuality in their communities.
12:59 AM on 05/22/2010
"There is no religion higher than truth." H.P.B.
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AZreb
equal-opportunity Independent heathen
08:13 AM on 05/21/2010
Nature is the only reality.
02:42 AM on 05/20/2010
What about HAARP?
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LavishTantrums
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09:21 AM on 05/19/2010
The winds of karma generally exclude acts of nature. Karma is a system of human consequences. If Christianity or any other non-Buddhist faiths have taken on the idea of karma as God using nature for taking divine retribution for human acts, then this is not only wrong morally, it is bad theology and poor use of a borrowed concept. It is precisely this sort of religious behavior that causes Dawkins his screaming headaches. Hurricane Katrina killed babies and left a huge gambling casino untouched. Nature does not choose bad actors. Please refrain from using the term karma so wrongfully. For quick (and obviously needed) education, please read A Simple Path by Dalai Lama.
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Rob Asghar
01:26 PM on 05/20/2010
Lavish, I think the conundrum of religion is that everyone has their own system. I once attended a class taught by a Buddhist woman who passed out a chart showing how various kinds of collective karma within a community might shape the landscape -- eg, a divided citizenry may see jagged rocks and quakes, a sexually immoral community will have a putrid stench, and other outward projections of inner feelings. So even the Buddhists don't agree. I personally find, in LA, that seekers tend to idealize certain ancient, foreign paths, not realizing how the folk forms of those paths had all the problems we associate with today's major religions.
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09:50 PM on 05/18/2010
I'm a little annoyed with myself that I actually read through that rambling mess of inanity.
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TheBodySacred
divine diva
04:10 PM on 05/18/2010
And why does Mr. Asghar believe that the recent quakes, toranadoes, and volcanic eruptions are some sort of divine retribution? He is sounding no better than Pat Robertson who claimed that Haiti was being punished for making a pact with the devil. Does not Mr. Asghar know that nature is in turmoil, and the whole of creation is unstable? And that it is only by the grace of God that we do not all perish under the tremblings of nature? All these forces of nature are unseen, and are totally out of man's control. If we are not careful, we could all end up victims of nature's fury. Thank God there is a God who can stabilize the onslaught of nature so that the planet does not totally self-destruct. Yes, some will perish along the way, but just like in all battles, there are causalities, even in the unseen cosmic battles that rage on in our world - the fight between the forces of good against the forces of evil - it is real! We are witnessing it before our very eyes, but many do not understand.

Those who have died in these castastrophes with their faith in God intact WILL receive eternal life. Those who have died opposed to God have received their reward already in death, and will also face a future judgment. Sounds harsh, but that is the way it works, whether you agree or not.
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kadene
wordsmith
05:39 PM on 05/18/2010
Wow. "That's the way it works, whether you agree or not"? Who says so? You know just as much or as little as the rest of us do. This hubris is why I stay away from your kind.
I won't suggest that all that you stated above is pure nonsense, whether you agree or not.
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TheBodySacred
divine diva
08:52 PM on 05/18/2010
Let's just say we agree to disagree!
11:46 AM on 05/20/2010
I for one am glad you are here to keep this nonsense from going unchecked, you counter it much better than I could.
11:07 AM on 05/24/2010
How about we stop blaming god for death and retribution period by taking responsibility for our own actions or non-actions towards animals, each other, and our environment. God does not create children to increase the population anymore than god lowers the birth rate by causing plague, famine, disease, natural disasters or starting wars. Tho' I suspect she may control the growth of humanity in the same manner that she controls over population of other mammals, by raising the ratio of homosexuality versus heterosexuality in their communities.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
01:50 PM on 05/18/2010
Karma is not the same thing as notions of 'Divine Retribution.'
01:45 PM on 05/18/2010
What I believe, and this is strictly what I believe. I believe that if you do something in your life thats big (good or bad) then in a next life you want to feel the result of your action, if you tortured people in this life you need to feel how it felt to be tortured, and if you did good in this life you need to feel how it felt to have good done to you.
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wordsmith
10:34 AM on 05/18/2010
An eternity spent lying prostrate in worship and praise to a terribly insecure deity who demands adulation holds no appeal for me. Likewise, the threat of forever spent being tortured because I was found guilty of violating one of his commandments, does not scare me in the least.

I am quite comfortable with the prospect of oblivion after my demise.
11:25 AM on 05/18/2010
"An eternity spent lying prostrate in worship and praise to a terribly insecure deity who demands adulation holds no appeal for me."

Well said. I think a lot of people (including myself) do have a problem with oblivion - nonexistence - after death. I didn't mind it so much before I was born, so I'm not sure why it's so fearsome. But it is. It's something I still struggle with. I admire and respect that you are ok with it - that is my goal. Fanned & faved.
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kadene
wordsmith
11:46 AM on 05/18/2010
And I too find it admirable that you can acknowledge your struggle with the prospect of nothingness. Please don't for a minute believe that I arrived at this place without a struggle. I am currently face to face with my own mortality and had the choice of accepting what I personally discovered to be harsh reality, or accepting the consolation of the ages. It was painful to let go of my faith, but when I finally did, I felt a tremendous release and lack of fear. Life, while I possess it, has so much more meaning.
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PlayTOE
Morals evolved due to cooperative group living
12:05 PM on 05/18/2010
Once I was religious.

When I looked at the religious version of afterlife and finally realized my choices were to have an eternity of torture in hell, or an eternity worshiping a being who sentenced so many to be tortured in hell, ... neither was a pleasant prospect.
The recognition that I would choose an afterlife in hell because I could not worship a despot ... that was a turning point where letting go of belief became easy.

As for an eternity of oblivion where I do not exist? I'm surprisingly OK with that.
There is only one life, use it wisely.
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TheBodySacred
divine diva
04:13 PM on 05/18/2010
And why are you comfortable with the prospect of oblivion after death? Do you know that the concept of oblivion is also taught in some religions? What makes you feel so sure that oblivion is what awaits you?
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wordsmith
05:25 PM on 05/18/2010
Note I stated that I am comfortable with the "prospect" of oblivion. Never said I was sure what awaits. But my comfort with it makes me worry less or not al all. And I am unmoved by the threats or promises religion offers.
Ever studied the face of a child being told about hell? There is absolute terror in their eyes. Some faiths insist on starting really early with the threat and guilt game. Shame. The terror stays with some kids way into adulthood, and some, for life.
10:30 AM on 05/18/2010
I've read through the comments several times and I have to ask because it is still unclear. Whose interpretation of karma are we using? Hindu? Buddhist? Sikh? Jain? Or are we using the Stoic interpretation, Logos? (which incoporates karma and dharma). If Buddhist, which interpretation? which school of thought?
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Elijah A Alexander Jr
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10:17 AM on 05/18/2010
Looking at most scriptures and oral traditions I find them being some form of explaining existence which suggest religion should be defined as "a way of life which causes one to comprehend existence and its purpose." That is how my vision of the changes coming will cause it to become. I also find overcoming believing in abstract concepts like good/evil. good/devil, love/hate and the like, and the need of leadership are imperative for anyone to find that purpose.

With education meaning "observing, participating and reasoning and putting the findings into an explainable format", that's what religion will become. Jesus said he is the way, his instructions were to follow him daily and the virgin birth prophecy, Isaiah 7:14-16 & 22, suggests the saved [survivors of this terminating civilization] will have followed him, even to forsaking god and devil as the two kings of death.