Obama's Giving McCain Enough Rope to Hang HImself With Russia Georgia Reaction

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Posted August 14, 2008 | 10:03 AM (EST)




Folks are saying McCain has the advantage with the conflict between Russia and Georgia.

It seems that Obama is holding back, letting McCain hang himself and McCain is doing a great job.

The Wall Street Journal reports that Georgia, a US ally, had been strongly advised not to react confrontively with Russia. They didn't listen and Russia came back hard.

McCain makes like Billy Goat Gruff and threatens, huffing and puffing.

It is remarkable that CNN, at least, keeps putting on partisan political experts, not real experts on the region. So it is not surprising that the commentary they get is incredibly dumb. Richard Bennett suggests that the US might deliver stinger missiles to the Georgians. Simply brilliant! That would pretty much be the same as declaring war on Russia. Do we really want to do that?

McCain is talking tough with Russia. Problem is, he's a gnat on a lions ass and he doesn't realize it. McCain is having a flashback to 1969. Back then, in THAT cold war, the US was a superpower and Russia was a hollow chimera. We know that now. But now, we also know that Russia is up to its eyeballs in oil money. The Russia of today is far more powerful and capable, massively more so than was true in '68.

McCain talks about putting pressure on Russia. Right. So does Bush. Problem is, they are impotent. The Viagra they've been delivering to their white male supporters who get their sense of masculinity by supporting war doesn't work in the real world. The real world says the US is helpless and all the nations of the world know it. McCain has multiple phone conversations with Saakashvilli and then Saackashvilli used it on national TV. Didn't McCain talk about Obama being manipulated by Ahmadinejead? But it's okay to meddle with the workings of real diplomatic efforts. ...Well, as real as you're going to get with Condi Rice, the worst Secretary of State n the history of the US.

Gee whiz, Condi speaks Russian. That means she can say things like, "Huh," and "what" and " didn't know that," and "Nobody told me that"

McCain and his team seem to be set on demonstrating that he can be a tough, bellicose commander-in-chief. What he's showing is total lack of nuance. He's showing that his experience during the war was as a prisoner, not a leader. His willingness to jump into confrontation so fast when the stakes are so high, is astounding. Who knows what Russia is willing to do in response? Well, they have demonstrated what they were willing to do in response to Georgia's affront to their expectations.

Meanwhile, Obama just holds his own, keeping his powder dry, letting McCain run his mouth and fully show what kind of leader he really is and is not. I don't think today's Americans are in the same throes of anti-communism, or fears of the "red menace." I don't think Americans like to see McCain talking so tough, putting the US at risk of a big war we managed to avoid going nuclear in for nigh on 40 years.

Ironically, McCain plays games with politics, even though his surrogates accuse him of stealing the stage with his Commander-in-Chief Demonstration. But McCain and his surrogates are milking this tragedy to the mad.

We'll see where the coming poll meanderings lead us. Meanwhile, Israel must be watching this with great interest.

The Russian incursion into Georgia sets the precedent. They get away with it, so, does that mean Israel does too, when it goes after Iran?

Some say we're re-entering the cold war. Seems pretty hot to me.

 
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Oh not to worry, that's just mccain's breeziness...........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 08/15/2008

This entire episode looks like an early October surprise to me and predictably, the MSM is not even reporting the pertinent facts, much less connecting the dots. What, for example, were Condi and Rove
(!!??!!) doing in Georgia just before its attack on Ossetia? Equally predictably, the likes of Lou Dobbs are suggesting that Obama should have ended his vacation early and jumped into the fray with idiotic threats like McCain's. This is the same Lou Dobbs who repeated ad nauseum the "presumptious" meme with respect to Obama's Middle East and European trip.

I have heard no one in the MSM suggest that the persons who needed to cut their vacations short to deal with this international crisis were Bush and Condi, or that McCain needed to keep his mouth shut since, for better or worse, Bush is still the president. Nor have I heard the MSM dissect McCain's chief foreign affairs advisor's highly lucrative lobbying relationship with Georgia while simultaneously advising McCain! All I've heard is how much better McCain understands this area of the world than Obama because McCain is such a good friend of Saakashvili, whose name he can't even pronounce. Nor has the MSM commented about what a dangle-d*ck McCain looks like, rattling sabers we don't possess (although Saakashvili noticed and called McCain out on it).

This election's August surprise appears to be an effort to gin up WWIII. If that can't get McCain elected, I guess nothing can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 08/15/2008

Yeah, I wonder how many of our neighbors, relying on the MSM, know that it was Georgia that instigated violence, against people who carried Russian passports. And, the interesting timeline wherein McCain's foreign policy advisor and longtime lobbyist for Georgia get this conntection renewed ($200,000) on April 16 (at a time when Saaka... was already considering military action), McCain writes a strong pro-Georgia piece on April 17.....Now we learn from Saaka...'s mouth yesterday that he had warned the US government months ago (April?) that Russia would probably respond militarily to future events, that no one then objected, so Georgia thought the US was "protecting their backs". And one can certainly conclude such a dialogue (implicit or explicit) would have gotten to McCain. The Russian have "over responded", but they usually do, but do you think your neighbors have any knowledge other than what the media seem to be saying: for no reason other than naked agression, Russia has attacked Georgia?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 08/14/2008

Frankly, who gives a crap about Obama or McCain... they're both imperialists. Both will have their wars. The ONLY difference between them is McCain is a Middle East war guy and Obama is a Central Asia war guy. So really, there's no peace. Your choice is between wars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 08/14/2008

All he has to do is point out the fact that McCain has been deeply involved in this whole process by his Presidency in the INTERNATIONAL REPUBLICAN INSTITUTE.

That is the reason you heard the Georgian President practically demanding a Patton-like appearance onna big ol' tank by his "patron and hero", John McCain.

The INTERNATIONAL REPUBLICAN INSTITUTE is funded with OUR TAX DOLLARS...and needs to be eliminated from the budget.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Republican_Institute

Along with the OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN OF THE NEO-CON PAX AMERICANA WET DREAM, the National Endowment for Democracy-also taxpayer funded and needs to be eliminated.

It is time to shut this down. Now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 08/14/2008
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"He's showing that his experience during the war was as a prisoner, not a leader."

Thanks for saying that. John Mccane keeps touting his experience and how he knows how to win wars. But he never is called on how exactly does being a POW turn one into a leader that knows how to win wars?

This week though since Obama has been on vacation I think the media still hasn't displayed Mccane to the public in a way that would reveal that he is not competent to be the president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 08/14/2008

Oh, you know McCain, he's just being McCain. No harm in that. We all know he means well. Besides, being tough is the only way to get elected in America. A man has to show how manly he is by sending other people's children to die for his political ambition. That is TRUE strength. And John McCain is more willing than Barak Obama to send your sons and daughters across the globe to ensure his election. Americans do not want someone as President who will think things through and act judiciously. They want a shoot first and ask questions later kind of regular Joe like John McCain. Someone they can relate to. Someone who is just like them and fears everyone who is not. McCain: Being Tough for America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 08/14/2008

How about calling McCain, W & all of the USA's neo-con, chicken hawks & rough tough cream puffs who're making threats against Russia, gnats on a rhino's back? These gnats will feed the birds who eat pests from a rhino's back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 08/14/2008
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