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Robert Creamer

Robert Creamer

Posted: January 20, 2010 09:09 AM

The Massachusetts Senate race is a watershed event that has enormous implications for this political year. The media is intent on making it a referendum on President Obama and his health care reform plan. But that interpretation of the results is just flat wrong.

President Obama maintains a fairly robust 55% approval rate in Massachusetts. And while it is true that the polling indicates that the "Obama Health Reform Plan" as a general concept is not very popular there, the individual components of reform continue to have substantial levels of public support -- both in Massachusetts and around the country.

The fact is that if you see enough TV spots saying that the "Obama health care plan" will cost jobs, take away your freedom, and cut your Medicare (all factually wrong) -- you start to believe it. Because of the massive length of the health care battle, the pro-health care reform forces, have simply been outgunned on TV by the big insurance companies and the Chamber of Commerce (mainly funded by the big insurance companies) that have pockets of infinite depth.

On the other hand, if you ask people if they want to end the ability of insurance companies to use preexisting conditions to deny care; make health insurance available at affordable prices to everyone; require insurance companies to spend the bulk of their premiums on health care instead of profits and CEO salaries; or give people the alternative of a public option -- you get very strong support.

Add to that the fact that 98% of people in Massachusetts have health insurance because of their own state-based health care reform -- and almost 80% are happy with their health insurance -- and it's clear that the race there was not at all a referendum on health care reform.

There are, however, major critical lessons for Democrats in the Massachusetts defeat:

Lesson #1.The big take away: don't run a bad campaign. The Coakley campaign made four critical errors any one of which, by itself, probably cost her the election.

First, they did not follow the first law of the Obama campaign to "leave no stone unturned." Coakley went on vacation in the Caribbean after her primary victory. She didn't campaign and she didn't raise money. When the campaign's pollsters -- the respected firm of Lake Research -- proposed doing a tracking poll after the primary, they were told there was no money. As a result, the campaign was caught flat-footed as Brown began to surge.

The reason you leave no stone unturned in a campaign, it to account for the unexpected. Yes, Coakley was 20 points up on Brown after the primary, but if the campaign was not asleep at the switch it would have discovered the Brown surge while it could still be stopped.

Second, the campaign allowed Brown to define himself -- and Coakley -- for swing voters. When Brown began a wave of advertising between Christmas and New Years, it went unanswered. The moment Brown began to surge, the campaign should have hit back and defined him as a shill for the Big Banks and insurance companies -- not the attractive, charismatic outsider he appeared to be to many voters.

Third, the campaign allowed their candidate to be perceived as the elite insider -- and ceded to Brown the role of crusading outsider. Democrats win when they appear to be what they ought to be -- populist agents of change -- not competent insider technocrats. That is particularly true when people are angry at the status quo.

Forth, unbelievably, the campaign had no field program. It was left to the heroic efforts of Organize for America (OFA) to try to save the day by improvising a field program in the last week and a half. More than anything else, Coakley lost because of a wave of Republican turnout. Until OFA arrived there was no apparatus in place to increase Democratic turnout. That borders on political malpractice. OFA did everything it could. Over the last weekend OFA made over 1.2 million turn out calls to potential Democratic voters. But great field programs -- particularly door to door programs that are the most effective means of boosting turnout -- must be organized with several months of lead time -- not a week and a half.

OFA proved once again how invaluable it is to the Democratic Party. Were it not for their efforts -- and the Obama trip to Massachusetts -- Coakley could have been routed in a blowout that would have shaken Democratic confidence to its foundation.

Even with all of these problems, Coakley might have still pulled it out had Brown himself not been an exciting, engaging, energetic candidate with an interesting history who ran a flawless campaign. In the end, elections are about the candidate and their campaigns. People vote for people; and to the voters the quality of their campaigns is a powerful symbol of the qualities of the candidate.

Lesson #2: There is a great deal of anger in America that is focused first and foremost on people's own economic prospects and frustration that change appears so difficult. Democrats have to do everything in our power to deliver jobs. And we must focus that anger at the people who caused the economic meltdown and are delaying fundamental change: the insurance companies, the Big Wall Street banks, the energy companies.

The fact of the matter is that when people are angry, if you don't focus that anger on the people who really caused their problems -- they will focus it on the people in charge -- in this case Democrats -- even if they were not mainly to blame.

It was the financial sector -- Wall Street speculators, the Big Banks, the insurance companies -- that caused the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression. And the Republicans -- and their "markets uber alles" philosophy -- made it all possible.

Democrats must have a clear, populist frame to win elections in 2010. In Massachusetts the campaign began to talk about the President's proposal to tax Wall Street in the final hours, but it was too late. Coakley had allowed herself to be framed as an insider, a technocrat versus a crusading populist outsider -- even though Brown will, in fact, go to Washington and vote down the line for the big insurance companies and Wall Street Banks.

To appeal to independent voters we do not have to be "more moderate" or "measured" as some have argued. We must be bolder and more populist.

And the problem is not -- as one commentator argued last night -- a frustration with the "fiscal overreach" of the Democrats. The problem is that we have not produced enough jobs. Democrats must pass a large jobs program now, and the deficit can't stand in the way. And let's remember, it was George Bush who turned a Clinton surplus into more debt that all other previous president's combined.

Lesson #3: We have to keep our base inspired and mobilized -- to make change and to win elections. The Massachusetts special election taught the same lesson as the Democrats' catastrophic loss in 1994 -- we have to inspire our voters to go to the polls. Democrats lost control of Congress in 1994 because our voters stayed home.

In Massachusetts, the right wing base was infused with excitement over the possibility of taking progressive icon Ted Kennedy's Senate seat -- and hobbling Obama's agenda in the Senate. The Democratic base was not inspired by the relatively bland Coakley and has been generally dispirited by the difficulty of passing health care, Lieberman's sabotage of the public option and the general recognition that Barack Obama can not simply wave a wand and make change.

The insurance companies, Wall Street banks and energy companies haven't just rolled over and played dead. They have put up tough, tooth-and-nail battles to defend the status quo.

Though I don't believe that the shape of the health care bill would have likely been a great deal different, there is no question that President Obama would be in better political shape with the base of the Democratic Party if he had been a more forceful advocate of the public option and appeared more forceful in taking on Wall Street.

On the other hand, Progressive leaders across America need to direct their own frustration at the forces that are defending the status quo and standing in the way of the Obama agenda. They need to take personal responsibility for rallying the base against our true enemies -- Wall Street, the insurance industry, the energy companies and the Republicans -- not encouraging cynicism and disaffection of base voters. That sense of frustration lead directly to a victory for Brown and now we are stuck with one more huge impediment to change in the U.S. Senate.

Lesson #4: Democrats must do whatever is necessary to pass a good health care reform now. The President, House Speaker and Senate Majority Leader have all pledged to do just that. The absolute worst response to the Republican victory in Massachusetts would be to cut and run. We have to muster our forces and do whatever is necessary to get it done.

Bad enough that the late Senator Edward Kennedy's seat is now in the hands of a Republican that does not share his progressive values. We must do whatever is necessary to assure that the fulfillment of his life long dream of health care for all is not thwarted as well.

That will probably require that some portion of the bill be passed through the budget reconciliation process that requires only 51 votes, now that the Senate no longer has 60 members who caucus with the Democrats. If so, so be it.

The idea that a minority of 41 members of the Senate can thwart the will of the majority is fundamentally undemocratic in the first place.

In fact, the Senate needs to change its rules to eliminate the abusive use of filibusters that now effectively require 60 votes to pass any significant piece of legislation.

The Massachusetts loss was a set back for the Progressive agenda. But it is in times of adversity that voters get to test the mettle of leaders and political parties. Time to square our shoulders, stand up straight, and show America that we can really make fundamental change.

Read more reactions from HuffPost bloggers to the Massachusetts special election

Robert Creamer is a long-time political organizer and strategist, and author of the recent book: "Stand Up Straight: How Progressives Can Win," available on Amazon.com.

 
 
 
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maslin
At 6 bn km, it's mostly small stuff.
12:57 AM on 02/28/2010
Mr Creamer gets it right:

1) Don't sleep through your own campaign.
2) Don't try to get in front of the train, Mr Obama; get in the conductor's seat.
3) Try to get people fired up to do what needs to be done. Provide some vision and some leadership.
4) Pass HCR. Show that you can make change.
12:29 PM on 01/21/2010
This message of Creamer's is exactly what one would expect from a progressive/liberal ... blame the mess on everyone but themselves. The Massachusetts defeat of Coakley was orchestrated and will result in big business and CEO's winning instead of them being villified. So we have to set up the 2010 election to do a better job creating more hate of profitable companies, capitalism, and people who generate wealth. Tax and spend is the answer as we rush to build bigger government and more regulation.

So far there have been three elections that seemed to have been promoted as important barometers of how 2010 elections might go. The people have voted and they are rejecting the course this country has started taking over the past year. The policies are being REJECTED! People want jobs in the private sector, not government candy and/or jobs. They want the government out of the way and not stepping in and trying to regulate a recovery, which is failing as most intelligent people know.

The Creamers of the world keep wanting to push governemt into our face whether we need it or not.
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gabemill
01:44 PM on 01/21/2010
Wrong.........

A Center on Budget and Policy Priorities study released last month found that the Bush tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan account for over $500 billion of 2009's $1.4 trillion deficit, with the economic downturn accounting for another $400 billion. Over the next 10 years, Bush's tax cuts and war spending will account for $7.1 trillion, yet the right maintains Obama is bankrupting us.

The conservative think tank, American Enterprise Institute, reported: “the economy responded to the massive stimulus.” Our financial markets seem to agree, as the S&P 500 is up 73% since last March. In the last month of Bush's presidency, 741,000 jobs were lost. Last month, we lost 85,000. Though far from optimal, this represents an almost tenfold improvement in less than a year of this administration's reign. And yet, the right seeks to advance the delusion that this president is a fascist who seeks our demise.

Conservative Bruce Bartlett, a fellow at the Heritage Foundation who worked for both Reagan and George H. W. Bush, states: “So much of what passes for conservatism today is just pure partisan opposition, it’s not conservative at all.”
Certainly, this assessment can be verified by examining the recent performance of Congressional Republicans.
The country needs solid leadership desperately, not obstructionist zealots.
04:57 PM on 01/25/2010
Gabemill where do you come up with your information? The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities is anything but non-partisan and the American Enterprise Institute who have over 750 articles published on the stimulus fiasco are anything but supportive of it. As for Bruce Bartlett and the Heritage Foundation ... he is not even listed as one of their contributors or experts. So I assume you have picked some misinformation or use the talking points of your choosing.

In Washington there is no leadership, there are only survivors. And as far as obstructionsts (I assume you are referring to Republicans) it is both parties playing the role. Whatever stops more government intrusion into our lives is a good thing!
11:31 AM on 01/21/2010
Let's see here.
"Lesson #3: We have to keep our base inspired and mobilized -- to make change and to win elections. The Massachusetts special election taught the same lesson as the Democrats' catastrophic loss in 1994 -- we have to inspire our voters to go to the polls. Democrats lost control of Congress in 1994 because our voters stayed home."
Expect more Democratic voters to stay home, and more left-leaning Independents to vote against their own interests (to vote for republicans) for many reasons and beginning with Obama's FIRST BIG MISTAKE: his tacit pardoning of Cheney and Bush. Obama came in wimping from the first, and he and we will pay "big time." Let's face it, People. It is too late for Obama to do anything good of substance. Can you spell L-A-M-E D-U-C-K?
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maslin
At 6 bn km, it's mostly small stuff.
12:25 AM on 02/28/2010
I don't think it's spelled "Obama".
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dakotawoman
I dreamed I saw Joe Hill. . .old time Progressive
10:52 AM on 01/21/2010
Can someone PLEASE explain to me?

A majority of Americans (according to the polls) WANTED a public option health care reform bill.

The party proposing this reform occupies the presidency AND has a majority in both houses of Congress.

WHAT the F***?!!!!!!

The Republican MINORITY and Big Business are clearly the real power brokers here. And have apparently ALWAYS been. The concept of America as a representative democratic republic is a farce.

Why try to change anything, when the best, most hopeful and altruistic of efforts smash like insects on the windshield of a juggernaut called "corporate special interest married to theocratic fundamentalist oppressors determined to control every individual's personal choices in the name of a desert nomad god'.

We are f*****.

A whole country held hostage by reactionary Neanderthals determined to keep us mired in their fantasy vision of an America that never existed in the first place.

More years of deadlock.

More generations owned and kept chained up to minimum wage lives without benefits as wage slaves to the corporations that very obviously and clearly are the REAL government.

I'm done.

Been fun talking with you all.

Goodbye.

I'm going home now to bunker down and entrench for the coming American Dark Ages.
08:02 AM on 01/23/2010
Part of the answer to your question is that Senator Max Baucus let members of his staff who worked for the health care industry write a health care bill. Then the US Senate must have 60 votes to pass a bill. If 58 members vote for a bill THE BILL DOES NOT PASS.

My Congressman supported the current House bill that Passed. The Senate ( I have read ) will not have 60 votes to pass the House bill.

Therefore, there are two bills that must be combined AND then the resulting bill must pass the Senate and the House.

It is all very confusing to me too. I cannot respect a Congress that puts corporate America before the people.
10:02 AM on 01/21/2010
Sir, I appreciate your comments and agree with you completely. Unfortunately, your words and the words of all the other advisers to the Democrats after this election sound too much like a day late and a dollar short.

Here's a question for all, where were all these well-meaning advisors to the Democrats "after the fact"
BEFORE the election?

Didn't these smart people see this happening, too? Where was this column a month before the election? Was it only the Coakley campaign and Rahm Emanuel in the White House asleep at the switch?

I would think that many advisors, similar to our author here, must have seen the inevitable train wreck coming when Coakley was tanning in the Caribbean and not answering the Brown attacks. Where were these advisors to sound the alarm bell? It's not like this seat was not important. And it being the former seat of the Lion of the Senate one would think the Democrats would have atleast shown Teddy the respect his career deserved and protected his seat like a mother bear protecting it's cubs. Where was that protection.

Yes, we had a Christmas day terrorist threat on an airplane---but far more scary is how the Democrats left Teddy Kennedys seat unprotected. How dare they?

Ted Kenndy was the Lion of the Senate. So now when I want to call a Democrat I feel like saying,
"here kitty, kitty"? Ain't no lions left in the Democratic party by the looks of it.
10:29 AM on 01/21/2010
Perhaps Coakly lost becuase Democratic policies on Health Care and terrorism are intensely disliked by most Americans.

Certainly the fiasco of the handling of the crotch bomber didn't help. No amount of slick campaign slogans can erase the incometence of not interroagting the guy.
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onlinesavant
11:38 AM on 01/21/2010
BS. And another example of regressive spin rooted in willful ignorance of the actual situation. If you knew what you were talking about, you'd know that A. Massachusetts already HAS mandatory health insurance coverage, and the citizens there are quite satisfied with it. This is unfortunately akin to what the Democrats have proposed on the national level. Single Payer will be the most effective, and fiscally prudent way to assure quality, nationally affordable health care for all. Hasn't changed. Secondly, just what are the "Democrats positions on terrorism?" Continuing to illegally occupy sovereign nations after invading them based on lies, which, according to the logic of those who prosecuted those dis-graceful acts in the first place, should have A. Stopped the Shoe bomber Richard Reid. B. The London and Madrid subway attacks. C.The Bali club bombings. And D. First and foremost CAPTURED OSAMA BIN LADIN! None of which bush/cheney did. And They did not capture the domestic anthrax attacker either!
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At 6 bn km, it's mostly small stuff.
12:19 AM on 02/28/2010
Dem policies on HCR and terror intensely disliked by most Americans? Um, no. We're talking Massachusetts.

Coakley lost because she, in a word, sucked. Mr Creamer has it right. It was political malpractice.

It's possible Brown might still have won if the Coakley campaign had had an actual pulse, but the fact is her campaign did not have a pulse. So we'll never know.

I'd actually suggest that her campaign get added to the playbook as an example of how never to run a campaign, ever.

On the subject of 'incometence' (sic) of not 'interroagting' (sic) Mr Abdulmutallab, I guess you'll be glad to know that he was 'interroagted' for some time before he was Mirandized. And then he was 'interroagted' some more. And then he gave up his network.

So on the whole, it looked pretty cometent.
05:13 AM on 01/21/2010
Ed Rendell, PA governor, gets it--interview w/ Rachel Maddow Wed. night. Democrats were voted in to a supermajority because people wanted change. What we got was a bunch of whining about not being able to do anything because they didn't have "60 votes." We didn't get change, we got excuses--and more of the same old game we thought we were voting to change. Republicans accomplished more of their goals with 40 votes than the Democrats did with a supermajority!

By failing to support, represent, and vote FOR the interests of the PEOPLE who voted for the Democrats, the Democrats basically have said "Screw You" to their base, and the voters in Mass. have replied--"Screw You, too!"
03:44 AM on 01/21/2010
America is ungovernable --- just like the tribal areas held by the Taliban!
10:24 AM on 01/21/2010
What do you mean when youu say "America is ungoernable"?

Are you comparing us to Somalia? yemen? Afghanistan?

Are we ungornable becuase we largely reject this health Care bill?

The government is supposed to work for the people who elect them. this is noit maoist China where the peoploe work for and swear allegiance to Chairman Mao.
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Fez
Ignorance is no excuse for the law.
11:17 AM on 01/21/2010
America is ungovernable because the voting population is too stupid, uneducated, and ignorant to understand any of the issues confronting them. Look around you.... those drooling, half-bright morons who are your neighbors and your leaders are so unintelligent that if their IQs dropped a few more points, we'd have to water them (apologies to Molly Ivins). When a population is not able to make intelligent decisions because they are so blinded by greed, ignorance, and hatred, they are doomed to end up like their ancestors grubbing for worms.
03:05 AM on 01/21/2010
i do not think many democrats reside in MA anymore,or at least their voting preferences have changed to reflect their pocketbook not morals or justice-it is a very monied crowd up there now and the tea baggers were sent in to do their job and it looks like a job well done.
i am very upset with Obummers administration-yes i voted for him, for my family's sake for their future,i believed what he said on the campaign trail-my wife and i are furious at big money being so close to the president-it seems like big money has won again-i belive Obama was told to behave or else...
we are mad as H3LL-do we move out of country???
we are scared of the future of America for our children's sake,where is common sense ? justice ? compassion for those who need a hand up-why do multiple families have to live in one residence just to get ahead? why does health care cost so much yet free all over the world where people are not as productive as the US ? no free college? why wars with so many? why do people all over the world hate us so badly? hating our government /corporate policies around the world that are inflicted on darker skin colored nations with great natural resources with gun, bomb and boot heel?
the MA vote reflects the apathy that many have with Obama and his broken promises-we are sad, sad about this vote
11:05 AM on 01/21/2010
You must be a progressive. Am I right? Like all progressives, you believe the government should take care of you. Some people call it the nanny state but out here in the real America we think the Constitution should be followed first. Remember . . . "We The People"!
11:42 AM on 01/21/2010
Then why are corporations taking over this country?

Progressives believe in governmental leadership and moving foward to meet the challenges of a changing world. We do not believe in a nanny state- that's one of the biggest lies conservatives spread. Conservatives are for the status quo. Conservative leadership is an oxymoron- you don't need leaders if you're not going anywhere.

The problems this country has are real. Republicans don't believe this country has problems unless the solution is to bomb them, cut spending or cutting taxes. You'd proclaim power to the people but turn it over to corporations who write our laws for their own gain. The conflicted moral compass, hypocrisy and greed that you represent as a party is only outdone by the biased close minded people who vote for them.

You want to proclaim "the constitution, the constitution." Save it! GWB and the republicans shreaded the Constitution- it was meaningless to you then so your hypocrisy is all we hear.
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01:13 AM on 01/21/2010
"On the other hand, Progressive leaders across America need to direct their own frustration at the forces that are defending the status quo and standing in the way of the Obama agenda."

Name them! don't let them hide in the shadows
10:32 AM on 01/21/2010
Isn't Obama one of the people not carrying out the Obama agenda?
11:07 AM on 01/21/2010
I couldn't agree more, the progressives should name all the people who are pushing their agenda. I know who they are, but does the average progressive know? Me thinks not.
01:07 AM on 01/21/2010
Yea. The Dems just need better "populist frame" and excite the "base". That will do it!
I AM THE BASE! I will not vote in another Democrat until I see an EFFORT AND RESULTS.

As a MASS voter, I am getting screwed by the MASS Insurance racket to the order of $912 this year in penalties for not signing up with the CORPORATE THIEVES! (Yeah, governor Patrick and state reps, YOU are next!)
Wars, Wall Street theft, Bankers' cancer in federal agencies, cap and trade theft, corporate agendas etc...... Yeah. EXCITE ME PLEASE!
11:11 AM on 01/21/2010
If you think you are paying higher taxes now, just vote more progressives into office and your bank account (that's if it isn't already) will become even more empty. Democrats should take a good look at who is pushing the agenda. It is not the average Democrat but the people who have taken over your party . . . they like to be called progressives.
11:49 AM on 01/21/2010
Progressives??? They're driving the agenda? What planet are you on. The problem with the agenda is it's too conservative and centrist. This country doesn't want neo cons starting wars, cutting spending for education and our future while they cut taxes on the mega millionaires- the middle class gets the shaft. They don't want water down health care reform that benefits big business. They don't want less governmental leadership they want more. They want the government to respond to the crisises GWB created. They want big business riegned in and out of politics.

Who's taxes have gone up under Obama- mine went down. Lies are so becoming for
conservative types.

What have conservatives done for this country over the past 20 years??? How about 50? Good luck finding something positive.
12:43 AM on 01/21/2010
The relatively poor messaging of the dems is still the primary problem in my view. They've allowed the discourse on things like healthcare reform to be dominated by vested interests and the republican bloviators that still dominate the airwaves. And as a democrat-leaning independent, I have to ask: When did it become clear that Coakley's campaign was insufficient, and at that point was there still time for the dems rally in the cause of trying to improve it, given the high stakes?
11:53 AM on 01/21/2010
Lobbyists for health care and big business spent hundreds of millions of dollars to misinform the public. How can people vote for something that's in their best interest if they don't know what that is. Even worse is when elected officials play the same game- death panels, your taxes will go up, the country will go bankrupt. What a joke.

Now we find that the Supreme Court will allow big business to gain more power over the political process. There is no hope.
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maslin
At 6 bn km, it's mostly small stuff.
12:34 AM on 02/28/2010
JS: If you have no hope, you have already lost.

I suggest you find some.
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maslin
At 6 bn km, it's mostly small stuff.
12:33 AM on 02/28/2010
Good question. I think there were a lot of assumptions about the electorate. Coakley herself didn't seem to realize that she actually needed to convince anyone that she should win the office.

In my opinion, if Coakley had had an effing clue, she would have realized that Brown being the double digits in polling was a problem.

But she didn't, and the race was textbook Aesop.
10:57 PM on 01/20/2010
Mr. Creamer has written an article on what he wants the world to be, not what the world is. Independent voters are disgusted with what is going on in Washington. To believe that the solution to getting back the independent voters is to push harder on these liberal dreams is just not dealing with the realities of what many of the American people want.
11:20 AM on 01/21/2010
Forget the title Liberal. They may still exist in the Democratic party but they are not running the show. The progressive movement started about 100 years ago and they are now running the White House. These are the people who believe in a "living" Constitution, re-distribution of wealth, controlling your life, big government institutions, did I say re-distribution of wealth? BTW, progressives come in both parties but are now entrenched solidly in the Democratic party. Nothing that has happened in the last year is a surprise to me. Look out for another jobs stimulus plan. The last one worked so well so let's try another . . . just like FDR did!
12:15 PM on 01/21/2010
You're a deciever of the worst sort.

The New Deal saved millions of jobs, kept people working and fed and staved off the suffering of millions of Americans. It worked- anyone who doesn't believe that is too bias for common sense.

The stimulus worked too. The problem with it was too small and too cmpromised- it needed to be bigger, needed to include less tax cuts and less pork. A better idea is to just give all the money to the wealthy people and let it trickle down- maybe cut their taxes again.

You did say re-distribution of wealth. The wealthiest people in this country got richer while the poor, middle class and even upper middle class have less now. Conservatives are always concerned about the wealthy having money and paying less taxes. Typical "me, me, me, I'm th only one that matters"- the party of me first.
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maslin
At 6 bn km, it's mostly small stuff.
12:39 AM on 02/28/2010
OMG! A 'LIVING' CONSTITUTION! RUN FOR THE HILLS!

IT'S GONNA GET ME!!!!!!
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JudgeMoonbox
09:45 PM on 01/20/2010
The way to win with 59 Senators is the same way to win with 60 when a few of those 60 make unconsicionable demands: put the focus on the Republicans for not allowing the straight Up or Down Vote that they demanded for the partisan hacks and ideological extremists that Bush wanted to put on the Federal bench 4 years ago.

If these Republicans actually believed that the media was this enemy, they would have anticipated that this enemy would have creamed them for not practicing the same as they preached back then. Either they know it's a lie or they're masochistically begging to be humiliated.
10:33 AM on 01/21/2010
Up and Down ote? With a Super majority, the Democrats could do whatever they wanted.
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JudgeMoonbox
10:08 PM on 01/21/2010
"With a Super majority, the Democrats could do whatever they wanted."

Correction: with a Supermajority, the Democrats could do whatever Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson want. It sounds to me, JanP, that you have a wildly exaggerated notion of how much party discipline there is in this country. Senators are not OBLIGATED to do whatever Obama commands. We're not Britain, there are no penalties for disregarding the leadership's wishes.

If the Republicans had allowed an up or down vote, we would not have needed to get every Democratic Senator on board. With a 51 vote majority ruling, we would not have needed toe corrupt deal to get Nelson's support.
11:24 AM on 01/21/2010
JudgeMoonbox, appropriate name I must admit and very funny. You are loosing sight of the issues. You must be watching Keith too much. Re-read the Constitution . . . it will set you free.
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NoProblemPablo
09:41 PM on 01/20/2010
The lesson for democrats should be that, like Brown, what you say will get you elected. What you do once you're there will get the other guy elected. Sell outs get kicked out. Obama's a chump. I'm done believing in him. He's got three years to change my mind.
09:03 PM on 01/20/2010
President Obama has done more than he has been given credit for. However, it's time to forge ahead without the Republicans. If they want to help govern, they can. It's up to them.