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New Ryan Proposal Still Aims to Eliminate Medicare, Replace With Voucher Plan

Posted: 12/15/11 10:13 AM ET

Today, Republican House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan will present his new "bi-partisan compromise" plan to a meeting of an outfit known as the "Bipartisan Policy Center."

Ryan's latest proposal would allow individuals to choose between traditional Medicare or vouchers that provide "premium support" for private insurance plans.

Here's what you need to know about the Ryan's latest attempt to repackage his hugely unpopular proposal to eliminate Medicare and replace it with vouchers for private insurance:

1) The only thing "bipartisan" about his latest proposal is that Ryan has apparently convinced Oregon Democratic Senator Ron Wyden to support it. The content of this plan is based on pure right wing privatization dogma. In fact it has much the same structure as the Bush plan to privatize Social Security.

2) Ryan admits that his latest proposal would not save any money compared with the current system. So why do it?

The real goal of Ryan's plan is the same goal of his original plan: to allow Wall Street and huge private insurance companies to get their hands on the Medicare Trust Fund. Both plans are about nothing more than allowing insurance companies to make more money.

Since the plan would not save the government money compared with the current system, it really has nothing to do with demonstrating "that there is an emerging consensus developing on how to preserve Medicare," as Ryan claims.

3) Don't be fooled by the apparent "choice" the plan offers between Medicare and so called "premium support" (vouchers) for private insurance. Serious analysts like the Center on Budget and Policy have concluded that the plan would allow private insurers to skim off healthy seniors and leave sicker, older seniors in the traditional Medicare plan. The effect would be to raise the costs of the traditional program and increase economic pressure to eliminate traditional Medicare -- that provides guaranteed benefits -- and replace it with vouchers for everyone.

In other words the plan is nothing but a two-step to get to Ryan's primary goal: eliminating Medicare, and eliminate guaranteed benefits. It's an attempt to achieve the goal that Newt Gingrich famously proposed two decades ago: "to make Medicare wither on the vine."

4). The reason that none of Ryan's plans would cut overall health care costs is simple. Private insurance plans have higher costs than Medicare. Private plans have much higher administrative and sales costs than Medicare. Twenty-five to thirty percent of every private health insurance dollar often goes to administration, marketing and profit whereas the cost of administering Medicare is only about 3%.

Some years ago the private health insurance companies convinced Congress to allow seniors the choice of "Medicare Advantage" plans run by private insurers. They were supposed to save lots of money through "competition." Instead they ended up getting subsidies of about 20% above the cost of providing Medicare directly. Those are exactly the subsidies that were cut by health care reform. Ryan's plans are basically about how the private insurers can get that money back -- and a lot more.

The Kaiser Family Foundation did a study of the effect on overall health care costs of raising the eligibility age for Medicare from 65 to 67 years old. Such a proposal would, in effect, move millions of seniors off Medicare and keep them in private insurance.

The study found that such a proposal would raise overall health care spending in the economy by about $5.7 billion per year, since private insurance companies (if sixty-five-year-olds could get insurance at all) simply cost more than Medicare. That, by the way, was true even assuming the implementation of the Affordable Care Act that would guarantee some form of coverage for everyone.

5) In order to cut Medicare health care delivery costs, you have to slow down the increases in health care costs throughout the economy. That requires:

  • Ending "fee for service" medicine. Instead of paying providers when people get sick, you need to pay them to keep people healthy. Instead of paying by the service, you pay providers per person -- adjusting the for the population's age and health status.

"Fee for service" medicine drives up costs because it does not benefit from any of the normal competitive forces that usually control costs. That's because consumers don't make most health care purchase decisions. Health care providers like doctors do.

In the current system if new medical device is introduced that costs more, but generates a higher margin for doctors and hospitals, you see its use go up -- regardless of its relative effectiveness -- even though it is more expensive. That's because the doctors and hospitals make the decisions about its efficacy and use -- not the ultimate consumer. There is a perverse incentive in the current system to use more expensive services that generate higher profits because the providers themselves make decisions for consumers -- and they always will. Sick patients rely on experts to recommend therapies. It is good to involve patients in those decisions, but in the end patients must depend on Medical professionals to advise them.

The normal elements of competitive markets do not characterize the health care market place -- they never have and never will.

You don't come home one day and say -- "guess what, honey... I just got a raise, now I can have cancer."

In a system where doctors and hospitals are paid fixed amounts per patient to keep people well, their incentives are to keep costs under control -- simple as that.

  • Allow Medicare to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies for lower prices so Americans stop paying massively higher prices for prescription drugs than anyone else in the world. This was banned by the Republicans when theycrafted their Medicare Part D plan under George Bush -- which, incidentally, they did not bother to pay for with new revenue in the budget.
  • Allow anyone of any age to opt to buy into Medicare. Medicare is the most efficient way to deliver health insurance. Encourage more people to use Medicare, not fewer -- the exact opposite of the Ryan plan. In other words, we need a public option that would put competitive pressure on all insurers to keep premiums low, and can use its size to negotiate for lower prices from providers.

There has never been a Republican plan to control costs by reforming the way health care is provided.

Every Republican proposal to "control costs" is really a plan to shift costs off of Medicare or Medicaid, and onto individuals and small businesses.

In order for the latest Ryan plan to save the government money, it would have to do just that -- shift the cost to seniors. Remember, his original plan -- that was supported by all but 14 Republicans in the House -- increased out of pocket costs for seniors by $6,000 per person, per year.

Buying health care is not like buying a new car. Health care should be a right that is provided for all of us - by our society. And it is in all of our interests to prevent economic interests of big insurance and pharmaceutical companies, -- or hospitals, -- or group practices, to stand in the way of achieving that goal.

The bottom line is simple. The latest Ryan plan is nothing but a "two-step" to achieve exactly the same goal as the original Ryan plan: end the guaranteed benefit of Medicare and replace it with a system of vouchers for private insurance.

Once people understand it, it will receive about the same level of public support as the original Ryan plan -- or its ideological twin, the wildly unpopular Bush plan to allow individuals to "choose" private accounts that was aimed at ending the guaranteed benefits of Social Security.

Americans don't want to privatize Social Security -- and they don't want to privatize Medicare.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.

And as for the endorsement of this plan by Senator Ron Wyden? What was he thinking?

Robert Creamer is a long-time political organizer and strategist, and author of the book: Stand Up Straight: How Progressives Can Win, available on Amazon.com. He is a partner in Democracy Partners and a Senior Strategist for Americans United for Change. Follow him on Twitter @rbcreamer.

 
 
 

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Today, Republican House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan will present his new "bi-partisan compromise" plan to a meeting of an outfit known as the "Bipartisan Policy Center." Ryan's latest propos...
Today, Republican House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan will present his new "bi-partisan compromise" plan to a meeting of an outfit known as the "Bipartisan Policy Center." Ryan's latest propos...
 
 
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08:31 PM on 01/14/2012
Health care isn't a right..if u want something, buy it on the open market
12:55 PM on 12/20/2011
No one is trying to ELIMINATE Medicare, that's a complete that's been thrown around repeatedly. The plan would change it dramatically, but eliminate? Not so much.
12:27 PM on 12/20/2011
No one is aiming to eliminate anything, despite what Democrats are trying to tell you. Medicare would change dramatically, but eliminated? No.
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mudshark12
Now who are you jiving with that cosmik debris?
11:15 PM on 12/16/2011
Vouchers? We don't need no stinking vouchers!

On a more serious note I think this is a big con job to get the public to buy a pig in the poke! Ryan's so-called plan sucks almost as much as the party of NO! he represents.
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Eggsackley
Organic gardener & growers marketer.
10:28 PM on 12/16/2011
Ryan more than any other Republican is committed to increasing profits for insurers and financiers. I would love to see his constituents put him out to pasture. But, you can bet that he will have one of the best financed re-election campaigns in the history of our political payola system.
I would like to hear more about the alternatives to fee for service medicine. Is that how single payer systems in other countries are organized? What do doctors think of the idea of a flat fee for patients? Could doctors be bankrupted if they got an unusual number of patients with chronic ailments? Would they want to screen out high risk patients like insurers do now?
I know a lot of doctors who favor a single payer system. It certainly makes sense to cut insurer profits in hundreds of millions out of our health care costs. Especially when you consider a large portion of their high overhead costs is for all the doctors and nurses they hire to justify not covering legitimate claims. We don't have enough doctors and nurses, why should we let insurers hire them to deny coverage, when we need all of them to take care of us? MEDICARE FOR EVERYONE! Let's cover everyone's basic medical needs, and limit insurers to supplemental coverage.
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maxfax
Taa - dah!
06:08 PM on 12/16/2011
Ryan;'s voucher plan, Wall Street/Citizens United dream, American citizens' nightmare.
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alafonse
It's definitely a crap-shoot.
12:01 PM on 12/16/2011
I want them to ensure every darned congressman from here to eternity has to have exactly the same Medicare plan that the rest of the Americans have. I'm sick and tired of them putting the onus on citizens, while they sit in their ivory towers, worrying about the next election instead of the constituents they are supposed to be representing. And Ryan is the most disgusting of the lot.
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maxfax
Taa - dah!
06:09 PM on 12/16/2011
It will never happen, but I agree. f&f
11:13 AM on 12/16/2011
Vouchers are nothing new. They were invented by Communist Bulgaria which I visited in 1982. Communist Bulgaria may have been a frightening rigid police state, but when I entered Bulgaria via the train station at Ruse, the guy at the Balkantourist tourist office couldn't be happier to see me. He was even happier to trade my American dollars into Bulgarian leva, so happy that he handed me a wad of Balkantourist coupons AKA vouchers which I could redeem at any Balkantourist enterprise.

There was only one problem.

I could not find any Balkantourist entity that would accept my Balktourist vouchers. Once, in Plovdiv, I succeeded in getting a cashier to accept them for lunch, but as I left, I heard an angry altercation coming from in a back office and I couldn't help wondering if I was the cause.

My travel story illustrates the dangers of using vouchers for Medicare.

Senior citizens may discover that no doctor, insurance company, or hospital will accept Medicare vouchers. Furthermore, with the elimination of ACA, no health insurance company with an eye on the bottom line will accept a senior citizen with pre-existing conditions. In addition, the value of vouchers can be cut anytime that Congress decided to do so - so many senior citizens will find themselves without any medical care at all - vouchered to death.

The Tea Party got its start because Obama was going to pull the plug on grandma. Now the GOP will pull the plug.
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PotomacOracle
The Solution:debt free credit clearing systems
10:47 AM on 12/16/2011
Tell me why do we pay in advance for SS? Why don't we have a legitimate Pay-Go system like most developed democracies with and without their own sovereign currencies.

Afterall, we don't have a trust fund in which we save-up to pay for future wars. These are Pay-Go propositions.

Also, tell me how a sovereign government with a sovereign currency can go broke? Sure it can run the risk of printing to much money and allowing the banking system to leverage too much credit but these can be constrained by taxation, interest rate policy, and regulation.

Governments with a currency monopoly cannot go broke, nor can they default unless they so choose. Ergo, none of it's programs can be underfunded unless self imposed constraints are triggered

Is it not also logical then to question why sovereign governments enforce permanent taxation when they can generate "revenue" simply by issuing sovereign currency? Taxation and other stabilizers for aggregate demand should be viewed as temporary measures, because a permanment regime of federal income taxation doesn't pay for anything in a sovereign currency environment.

The Federal Government can spend its monoploy currency into the economy to fund state and local governments avoiding bond markets and debt, and also relieving those political jurisdictions of, the burden of borrowing, and the insanity of balanced budgets in the face of massive unemployment\deprivation.

We have been so conned to believe that the Federal government needs to borrow and pay interest on its own currency.
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Eggsackley
Organic gardener & growers marketer.
10:56 PM on 12/16/2011
If we were on a "pay-go"social security system, the annual federal deficit would be much higher at present and climbing at a much faster rate. If the government attempted to print and issue enough money to pay down our present deficit, it would cause an inflationary spiral like we have never seen in this country. If you think people are hurting now, just wait until your paycheck is worth only fifty percent of what it was worth last year. And, our wars have not been *pay go". They have been fought on borrowed money because of the Bush tax cuts. That's a major reason for our present deficit.
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PotomacOracle
The Solution:debt free credit clearing systems
09:08 PM on 12/18/2011
No nation can tax itself into prosperity, nor grow without money growth. It’s been 40 years since the U.S. became Monetarily Sovereign, and neither Congress, nor the President, nor the Fed, nor the vast majority of economists and economics bloggers, nor the preponderance of the media, nor the most famous educational institutions, nor the Nobel committee, nor the International Monetary Fund have yet acquired even the slightest notion of what that means.

Not only are we nowhere near hyperinflation, but we never have been near that point. Since that magical year 1971, inflation has been caused by oil prices, never by federal crediting of checking accounts (spending), and with very few exceptions, inflation has been close to the Fed’s target level.

Remember that the next time you’re tempted to ask a dopey teenager, “What were you thinking?” He’s liable to respond, “Pretty much what your generation was thinking when it screwed up the economy.”

Mandatory reading for those who don't understand the above comments:
http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com/2011/04/14/why-the-federal-debt-is-not-the-total-of-federal-deficts/
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TN60
I Hope You'll Dance
10:06 AM on 12/16/2011
I forgot to thank you Mr. Creamer, for a most excellent post, in my earlier comments.

I have bookmarked your comments to read over and over and when I need to quote a fact, so,

Thank you.
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Bart DePalma
Bart DePalma
09:25 AM on 12/16/2011
1) There is no Medicare Trust Fund, there is a several trillion dollar unfunded future obligation.

2) The Ryan/Wyden plan is designed to reduce that unfunded future obligation by allowing Americans to decide whether to take their Medicare benefits and stay with a "public option"Medicare or choose a private insurer alternative.

3) If Medicare is far more efficient as the author claims then everyone will choose the "public option" and he has nothing to worry about. In reality, roughly 14% of Medicare and Medicaid funding is wasted on fraud and, even after making the industry standard 2% profit, most private companies could easily offer more bang for the buck. As Newt Gingrich once noted, Medicare would "wither on the vine." THIS is what terrifies the author and other proponents of government health insurance.

Bart DePalma
http://thecitizenpamphleteer.wordpress.com/
10:36 AM on 12/16/2011
We already have private medicare plans. Medicare advantage. If private insurers were so efficient, then why do they require to be paid 20% more per patient.
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Bart DePalma
Bart DePalma
12:36 PM on 12/16/2011
Mediare Advantage is a supplemental plan which provides more benefits than Medicare, thus costs more. Obamacare will eliminate MA.

I suspect that private insurers will try to lure folks from a "public option" Medicare under a Ryan/Wyden plan by offering more and better benefits for a slightly higher premium ala the very popular MA program.
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TN60
I Hope You'll Dance
09:12 AM on 12/16/2011
Wyden is just a cover for Republicans in this next election. Radical Ryan messed up the Republicans lie that they want to save both programs, when they have been trying to end it for years.

The Democrats had a perfect thing to run on, partly, because Ryan had outed the Republican aim to turn over Medicare to Big Insurance and S/S on their Wall St. casinos.

If the Democrats don't see this as a traitor to their party, then they need their heads examined, as I think leadership needs their heads on straight and get rid of Reid and Durban.

Doesn't anyone listen to the people out here ? Evidently not, because they have spoken quite clearly, not to touch S/S or Medicare. This has been going on for a year that I have watched the polls.

BTW....they have said to tax the rich, plus get jobs going and damn deficits until more jobs have been created.

We are at the turning point in this country. Better heed what the people are saying. And Congress is at a very very low point. It's either the rich take over everything that delights Rep/tea loons, or get back to people owning this country.
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Martha Fair
09:39 AM on 12/16/2011
Wall St. casinos.

I love it ! ! ! fave you
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TN60
I Hope You'll Dance
12:15 PM on 12/16/2011
Thank you, Martha
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Pastori Balele
Graduate degree
03:13 AM on 12/16/2011
Paul Ryan is done next election - out. People tend to forget their roots once in power - and Paul Ryan is one of them. First Ryan called police on his voters demanding jobs in his district. News have now spread Ryan is to be recalled. Ryan also forget he has a government health insurance with unlimited benefits. But Paul crafted Ryan-Care which essentially dumps in Lake Delevan, all seniors exhausting his $5,000 voucher medicare services. Paul does not want seniors have same medical benefits as he. Seniors are angry with Ryan. They have wondering where Ryan got friends that lied to him to kill seniors in favor of insurance profits. Well, come next elections, Paul is out. He should start looking for another job. Seniors and their children will make sure Paul is side-lined - defeated.
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TN60
I Hope You'll Dance
10:10 AM on 12/16/2011
I sure hope so....I'll be backing you. Now, if we can get the rest of the loonies out, and Obama elected, you will see real progress in this country.
01:17 AM on 12/16/2011
By reading "Penny Medical" website I learnt In actuality, there are two programs at work here: States that chose to administer the plan themselves and states that opted out and asked the federal government to step in.
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Josh Crawford
Just the facts, man!
12:33 AM on 12/16/2011
This is the same Ryan Plan that has us balancing the federal budget in 2063 (yes, 2063) and paying off the National Debt in 2080 (yes, 2080)! Kind of hard to take that seriously, don't you think?