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Unborn in the USA

Posted: 03/ 7/2012 11:21 am

Two weeks ago, the "Personhood Act" passed the Oklahoma Senate. Passage by persons in the state's Republican-controlled House is expected, and the bill should be signed into law by Oklahoma's Republican governor, Mary Fallin, a person.

The bill will give personhood status to gametes from the moment of fertilization. Or conception. Or whatever mental image or description you would prefer, like "from the moment a woman's ovum is impregnated by the ejaculated sperm of a male." That would be a person. And that person would immediately be legally protected with all the rights of a person that that person would expect, presuming the person had the ability to expect.

A similar personhood bill was proposed in Mississippi, though ultimately rejected by voter persons when concerns were raised that it could criminalize birth control.

A personhood bill in Virginia was on its way to passage, but got temporarily withdrawn at the last minute (foedus interruptus) by persons in the General Assembly because Republican persons wanted to "study" it further -- no doubt hoping to find a loophole for that whole "criminalize birth control" thing.

On the positive side, it's nice to see that ultra-conservatives have finally embraced the politically correct term, "personhood," which they had long derided as the property of hippie persons, until adopting the term in their fight against abortion. And women.

A leading proponent of that Virginia personhood bill, lawyer person Rita Dunaway, told MSNBC that the proposed law "would accomplish the long-term objective of recognizing the humanity of the unborn."

Her comments were widely applauded by the unborn. None were immediately available for comment, though the unborn from the year 2032 were especially appreciative because they will be the unborn eligible to vote in that year's presidential election, provided they are born by 2014 -- part of Ms. Dunaway's "long-term objective," though not as long-term as the unborn of Stardate 2381.6 who have been demanding their personhood rights since 1793.

While many believe that the effort behind all these Republican-backed personhood bills is a reaction against abortion, women, sex and fun, others see another motive. Given that the number of unborn is currently unknown, it could reach the trillions -- or gazillions -- and should all those unborn give their grateful loyalty upon birth (should it occur) to the religious far right, the Republican Party could overwhelm elections through eternity.

It would be a nation of unborn conservatives. The unborn Born Again.

Of course, this also raises problems for those supporting personhood for the unborn. After all, think of all the unborn illegal aliens there are in America right today. Do they become unborn citizens because they're born unborn in the United States? And worse, there's the issue of the unborn Muslims all around us, right here on the American shores. No, that's not a problem for most Americans, but to the far right, it's a nightmare come to unlife.

Noble as all this effort is, though, for the countless unborn persons throughout America today and in the future, there is a huge flaw in these personhood bills, which proponents have tried to hide. A flaw that, by its very nature, eliminates any possible defense in the cause.

That flaw is as core a flaw as any cause can have -- because it's the very name of the cause itself.

Personhood.

The name may sound all-encompassing, but it's the opposite. The name may even sound liberal, and tree-huggerish and politically correct, but it's not. The name actually proves the emptiness of what its proponents must hide.

And what flaw does it hide?

The name "personhood" hides that proponents of the bills cannot actually tell you if the "person" is a male or a female.

Ask them. "Okay, this unborn 'person' you want to give human rights to at the moment of fertilization? Is that a male? Is it a female?" The answer can't be determined. Indeed, "he" or she" isn't ever used in the discussion. Instead it's always "the unborn child." The unborn person. It's always spoken of in the general -- because it can't be spoken of in the specific. But that impregnated egg is very specific. And one thing that can't yet be determined is if it's a male or female.

That's why they call it "personhood." Because "it-hood" sounds too creepy.

Zygotehood sounds even worse. But that's what it is. Because it sure isn't "a person."

For all the convoluted debate, it's really very simple, in the end: if something can't be determined to be a male or female, it can't possibly be a person. After all, being a male or female is pretty much the core requirement to be a person. Everything else is gravy. So, without being able to determine if something is male or a female, then it's impossible to call that a person.

The best you can do is hermaphrodite.

Because the only other option is that the religious far right is trying to recognize the rights of a transgender person.

(Yes, I know that neither are likely. If I had to bet my money between the two, though, I'd put it on hermaphrodites.)

If neither, however, they're out of options. After all, if something isn't a male person or female person -- it can't be granted "personhood."

Now, perhaps we can do something about centaurs...

 
Two weeks ago, the "Personhood Act" passed the Oklahoma Senate. Passage by persons in the state's Republican-controlled House is expected, and the bill should be signed into law by Oklahoma's Republi...
Two weeks ago, the "Personhood Act" passed the Oklahoma Senate. Passage by persons in the state's Republican-controlled House is expected, and the bill should be signed into law by Oklahoma's Republi...
 
 
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10:53 AM on 03/13/2012
Robert: There is a biological difference between gametes and embryos. No one is asking for personhood to be granted to gametes. I assume you understand the difference, so why reference gametes?

Your notion that sex of an embryo cannot be determined is completely wrong. There are tests that can determine the sex of an embryo. It is done in IVF procedures all the time. Just because invasive tests are not done to determine sex of an embryo in every pregnancy doesn't mean that it cannot be done. Also, once an egg is fertilized and you have a new embryo, you now have a unique life with its own DNA that can be mapped. That DNA will be the same for every stage of its life. It will never change into someone else's DNA.

As for your implication that a person should only have the legal rights of a person presuming that that person has the "ability to expect" those rights is way off base. By that definition, not even a new born would have legal rights since a new born has no "ability to expect" that its rights will be valued.
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Liz Norman
Pro Constitution/BoR
04:28 PM on 03/07/2012
On the flip side, wouldn't this be a case where someone could claim their "personhood" and declare themselves male or female at their choosing. This would eliminate the problem of only man and woman marriage. No problem with sex reassignment surgery as "personhood" should allow for corrective surgery of a birth defect. "Personhood" should be used whenever there is discrimination in the law to cover anyone as we are all "persons". Lawers...get ready, set... litigate.
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RHines
12:53 PM on 03/07/2012
And let's not forget unicorns!
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judgeholden79
You, Never? Did the Kenosha Kid?
12:50 PM on 03/07/2012
This raises a few other questions I have:

1. Are Zygotes counted for purposes of the census?

2. Will these states amend other laws to a draw a distinction between birth age and conception age? For example, let's assume me and a friend were conceived on exactly the same day, but I am born a month premature. My birth date would be a month earlier, but by their logic I would not be any older, and we should reach certain key dates (16, 18, 21) at the same time.

3. Can parents claim zygotes as dependents on their state taxes? It seems like if the pregnancy stretches across tax years, one would be inclined to claim a dependent in both years.

I could do this all day, the pratical absurdities these personhood bills create are amazing.
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Robert J. Elisberg
Political writer and screenwriter
04:47 PM on 03/07/2012
> This raises a few other questions I have:

I'm sorry, you're not allowed to question.

No matter how good the questions.
11:07 AM on 03/13/2012
Speaking of absurd, isn't it absurd to conflate birth date with conception date? Birth date means just that: birth date. Not conception date. I guess you can also think it a practical absurdity that parents can't claim zygotes for tax purposes. Unless, of course, you realize that we already arbitrarily define how and when parents can claim dependents for tax purposes based on the dependent's stage of life.
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judgeholden79
You, Never? Did the Kenosha Kid?
12:35 PM on 03/13/2012
I was not conflating birth date with conception date, but that's beside the point. Your argument acknowledges that infants and zygotes are different, and must necessarily have different legal statuses.

Virginia's personhood bill, for example, is not drafted with any distinction in mind:

"The laws of this Commonwealth shall be interpreted and construed to acknowledge on behalf of the unborn child at every stage of development all the rights, privileges, and immunities available to other persons, citizens, and residents of this Commonwealth subject only to the Constitution of the United States and decisional interpretations thereof by the United States Supreme Court and specific provisions to the contrary in the statutes and constitution of this Commonwealth"

So, my question stands, will the laws be rewritten to take a distinction into account? For example, if a law is written "All persons over the age of 21 may consume alcoholic beverages", that law would have to be rewritten. At the very least, "age" would have to be redefined as birth age.

A broader question, however, is: if you have to acknowledge that there is a difference between born and unborn, why have a statute that says they're the same?
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
12:45 PM on 03/07/2012
I wonder how Oklahoma is going to cope with the 90% of "persons" who fail to get a grip on the uterine wall and get flushed or washed down the shower, with "Mom" none the wiser? (Yes, up to 90% of fertilized ovum do not attach or become detached within the first month.)

Will families have to start shelling out for funeral expenses for tampons, next?

Furthermore, according to Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, women aren't actually persons under the law (at least not as much as corporations). So how can a cluster of cells that are part of a non-person be a person? Or are only male clusters of cells persons?
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Liz Norman
Pro Constitution/BoR
12:14 PM on 03/08/2012
Think about all the man-slaughter and murder charges that can be brought to trial. Womens prisons will be full in no time
11:15 AM on 03/13/2012
Wouldn't the "90% of persons who fail to get a grip on the uterine wall" have a natural cause of death? Don't most people already die of natural causes? Why would that be a crime as Liz Norman states in her reply to you? This whole line of thinking that many people have about embryo's that don't survive as being anything other than a natural cause of death is absurd.
Sictomystomik
Public Servants are to serve! They are not Leaders
11:55 AM on 03/07/2012
This all comes down to election year! The puebs (re'pub'licans) claim to be sooo Godly, trying to win the christian vote. They hate the poor, and there are more people than jobs. They don't care anymore than the christian's how to feed these children and women whom are the ones living in poverty in this world. I love the Lord but the churches have brouht the worldly ways of polotics into the CHURCHES! The Christians can't help the poor, they have a building fund to maintain, etc., and they use one scripture to excuse the poverty in this world to back the RICH! Jesus said, "We will always have the poor with us." They don't read the rest and why he said this! I get it guys are concerned with the unborn vote, just don't ask them to be responsible after the birth!