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President Obama Whiffs at the Debate

Posted: 10/18/2012 2:07 pm

Okay, yes, I know all polls have shown that President Barack Obama won the second debate with Mitt Romney and his magical Binder of Women. And yes, I know that the airwaves are full of videos of "smackdown" moments by the president.

But the president had a softball lobbed across the plate on one question, and he missed blasting it far over the wall for an easy, Ruthian grand slam home run. Instead, he wound up with a ground-rule double.

The question came from Susan Katz who expressed "fear" of a return to "failings and missteps" of George Bush policy and was concerned that Mitt Romney might not be able to differentiate himself from Mr. Bush, leading the country back to those same "economic and international problems." Of course, few Americans want that -- including most Republicans. Witness the invisibility of President Bush from the Romney campaign. Better yet, witness Mr. Romney's own answer, detailing his "differences," rather than insisting how much he admires the wondrous George W. Bush.

Yes, I know that President Obama gave a highly-effective, clever answer that ridiculed how much worse Mr. Romney would be than Mr. Bush. And he was right. But it totally missed what would have had the audience running for the hills to duck-and-cover.

Consider all that the president left out.

Consider what he didn't say:

As Paul Richter in the Los Angeles Times reported about Romney foreign policy, the former governor relies "on a group of about 200 outside advisors, campaign staff and other experts. About two-thirds are veterans of the Bush administration."

Two-thirds.

These include:

John Bolton, George Bush's Under Secretary of State and ambassador to the United Nations. He is such a neocon war hawk that Mr. Bolton told officials in Israel that America's next targets after attacking Iraq would be Syria, Iran and North Korea.

Dan Senor, the former Bush spokesman in Iraq during Paul Bremer's disastrous "Provisional Authority" period when the Iraqi Army was disbanded and civil riots exploded. (He also has led foreign policy briefings for Vice Presidential-candidate Paul Ryan.)

Robert Joseph was the National Security Council official who wrote the notorious "sixteen words" lie in President Bush's 2003 State of the Union speech that falsely claimed Iraq was trying to buy enriched uranium.

Eric Edelman not only was an important Bush official in the Pentagon, but it was his suggestion to boss Dick Cheney that Scooter Libby "out" CIA covert agent Valerie Plame. He also served in the Defense Department and pressed to attack Iran.

Other Bush neocon and war hawk advisers on the Romney team include Elliott Abrams, the Bush deputy national security aide; and Elizabeth Cheney, a State Department official and daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney.

Sorry, if you're running out of paper for taking notes, but we're only getting started.

Beyond these experts comprising its foreign policy brain trust, the Romney website lists its "special advisers." These include:

Michael Hayden, the Bush CIA director.

Michael Chertoff, homeland security director for Mr. Bush.

Richard Williamson, ambassador to the U.N. Security Council, and the Bush special envoy to Sudan.

And all of this, Barack Obama left out of his answer. But then, out of kindness to the far right, he also left out that:

On Mitt Romney's foreign policy team, "Fifteen of the 22 members were policy advisers under the George W. Bush administration." And further, as Policymic states, "six of them are former members of PNAC," the neocon Project for a New American Century.

Indeed, when Mitt Romney released his white paper on foreign policy (neocon-named, "An American Century"), the foreword was by Eliot Cohen -- counselor to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. And a founder of PNAC. Mr. Cohen has advocated that the U.S. "actively seek the overthrow" Iran. He refers to his policy as "World War IV."

The importance of all this direct. Bush-neocon, war hawk influence on Mitt Romney has been put into perspective by Ari Berman in The Nation. He quotes Christopher Preble, foreign policy expert of the conservative/libertarian Cato Institute:

"I can't name a single Romney foreign policy adviser who believes the Iraq War was a mistake. Two-thirds of the American people do believe the Iraq War was a mistake. So he has willingly chosen to align himself with that one-third of the population right out of the gate."

(But there's an even larger perspective. These Bush/Romney neocons are the same crack-experts who advised George Bush to ignore the briefing, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." An intelligence failure of ghastly worldwide proportions where 3,000 American lives were directly lost, and 4,488 more killed in Iraq -- and over 100,000 additional war deaths -- as a result of it. It makes their advice to Mitt Romney to create a political issue of the Benghazi consulate attack all the more pathetic and empty.)

But wait, don't stop taking notes yet. The Romney campaign doesn't just have all these Bush alumni advising on foreign policy... but counseling domestic policy, as well.

After all, Mitt Romney's economic advisers include:

Glenn Hubbard, chairman of Mr. Bush's Council of Economic Advisers. (How'd that advice work out?) And an architect of the Bush-era tax cuts, which led to the $1.3 trillion budget deficit.

N. Gregory Mankiw was George Bush's main economic adviser from 2003 to 2005.

Even on judicial issues, the Romney list of Judicial Advisers -- chaired by Robert Bork, the divisive, partisan, failed Supreme Court nominee -- has at least 10 lawyers related to the Bush administration Justice Department.

These include Steven Bradbury, who as head of the Office of Legal Counsel, infamously signed three memos giving Mr. Bush the opinion that waterboarding torture was legal.

Mitt Romney's staff of education advisers once included Margaret Spellings, George Bush's secretary of education.

In fact, two of Mitt Romney's top political strategists, Russ Schriefer and Stuart Stevens, both come from the Bush-Cheney campaigns. As does Romney campaign adviser Kevin Madden, who was also spokesman for the Bush Justice Department.

So, there you have it. What the president should have said. The deeper answer to Susan Katz's "fear" about whether the Romney campaign is too heavily tied to the failings and missteps of the Bush administration.

As you see, she has nothing to fear.

No, indeed. She has everything to fear.

 
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jjtx
living between the trees
08:30 PM on 10/19/2012
I certainly hope that the President brings this up in the foreign policy debate.
11:51 AM on 10/19/2012
I watched this debate Tus. night and saw another halting, choppy, staccato-speaking Obama, wandering aimlessly, speaking in theory, speaking in faculty lounge lizard theoretical non-reality. I saw a presidend speaking cliche after cliche.
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Dosadi
Political agnostic
10:48 PM on 10/19/2012
So what do you think about the neocons Mr. Romney has surrounded himself with?
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froggythegremlin
I'll never do it again, I promise.
10:11 AM on 10/19/2012
Not to worry. This is fodder for the next debate - the one on foreign policy.
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09:57 AM on 10/19/2012
I can't believe anybody thought that debate was a shining moment for Obama.
He failed again to specifically spell out his economic plan vs. that of his opponent, and let many unsavory aspects of the Romney campaign go unaddressed.
The lack of criticism from the left throughout Obama's tenure has allowed the right to step in and fill the vacuum, the end result being a general push to the right - helped along by Obama's "bipartisanship".
Nothing will ensure the left keeps it's mouth shut more than another Obama victory.
Now, let's get Jill Stein and Gary Johnson in on one of these debates so we can have more than softballs lobbed by "town folk" to set the agenda for discussion.
09:26 PM on 10/19/2012
Were I an Obama supporter, I'd probably find your comment somewhat annoying, but you do pretty fairly touch on a subject that most don't speak about- the fact that Obama hasn't been making as strong a case for his policies moving forward as much as he has in defending his record. In terms of substance, the debate wasn't really a shining moment so much as a shiny moment for Obama. On a happy note, Obama did make a comeback in terms of style to about 75% of what we've come to expect from him.. It would be kinda fun to allow the 3rd party candidates a seat at the forum for these debates- would definitely broach the subjects that we're all thinking, but not really giving voice to.
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INVet
Truth has a liberal bias
09:53 AM on 10/19/2012
This article is a MUST READ for all interested in the future of this country!
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balthus
09:08 AM on 10/19/2012
Gee...and it would have only taken Obama about fifteen minutes to get through your talking points. Guess that's why he's President, and you're throwing in worthless criticism from the peanut gallery.
08:19 PM on 10/19/2012
Really? It would take 15 minutes to say "2/3rds of his advisers came from the Bush administration, including the economic advisers that were the architects of the Bush-era tax cuts, which led to the $1.3 trillion budget deficit"?
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Osmona
Its GREAT to be alive and SANE.
08:31 AM on 10/19/2012
A little off topic. I think Romney is going to be REALLY SCARY at the next debate. He is so desperate I look for him to say ANYTHING and push harder to bulldoze the moderator and President Obama. Not sure what or how the Prez is going to handle this, but I know he must. I hope he goes for a KNOCKOUT this time.
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PortlandZoo
Wait... what?
03:22 PM on 10/19/2012
yup, remember "please proceed, governor romney..."
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Osmona
Its GREAT to be alive and SANE.
03:48 PM on 10/19/2012
Yup. And the look in the Prez's eyes when he defended "his team". It was CLASSIC.

F/F
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IOKIYANO
06:51 AM on 10/19/2012
The other slow pitch he whiffed at was when Romney talked about recruiting women for his cabinet because there weren't any on his list of Most Qualified:

"Oh, so now you're FOR Affirmative Action?"

Either way Romney answers, he loses the Tea Party or women.
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BeauBoi
Imagine there's no Heaven...
07:44 PM on 10/19/2012
Spot on! F&Fd!
05:55 AM on 10/19/2012
LOL....BO thinks Dubya is a genius. Why else would BO parrot Dubya policies?

Gitmo, tax breaks, drone attacks, DREAM, electronic surveillance, Patriot Act, standardized testing in schools, Latino deportations.....I mean REALLY?
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
08:58 AM on 10/19/2012
All I can say is that Bomb, bomb, bomb McCain would have been worse. He would have put Alan Simpson (Montgomery Burns incarnate) as Sec of HHS and medicare and SS would have been privatized and the Medicare Part A tax of 1.5% on the bottom 80% would have been tripled......Really and his handouts to Wall Street would have been phenomenal.
09:30 PM on 10/19/2012
Actually, the comment does bear thinking moving forward, though. It's not like the Obama administration has really dialed that particular Bush-era stuff back much, if at all.
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Peter Leary
So long and thanks for all the fish.
04:08 AM on 10/19/2012
Thank you. I did take notes and now find Romney's continuing credibility even more scary than it already was... Why won't someone pin him down and just ask "Where is Dubya?"
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RepublicansAreFail
The first 3 letters of Conservatism spell "CON"
01:36 AM on 10/19/2012
I'm sure Obama was saving up that tidbit for the next debate which will be exclusively all about foreign policy.
04:58 AM on 10/19/2012
yeah, i tihnk thats a given too. good luck on that one romney/ryan. i wonder if he will try to spin it in some wierd way to make it look like these guys arent a part of his campaign.
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
01:15 AM on 10/19/2012
You can debate whether Obama "won", but Romney definitely lost. He didn't answer a single question, and spend the entire night blubbering about Obama. That's definitely not presidential- Romney won't be able to just say "trust me" then whine about Obama when he drives the economy off the cliff. We already saw that happen during the George Dubai Bush maladministration, with him destroying the US economy and whining about Clinton for eight years.
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gurukalehuru
cwtc7
12:52 AM on 10/19/2012
Obama doesn't swing for the fences. Obama takes the ground rule double. That's his style. It is what's made him an extremely effective president.
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Roman88
Get back on your feet... Never give up!
12:18 AM on 10/19/2012
Yes, we should be concerned about the fact that Romney has so many foreign affairs advisors who are veterans of the Bush administration. Romney may be more of a moderate but the Bush people could easily lead the charge into Iran. Just let a few Rumsfeld- and Cheney-types into Romney's inner circle and very quickly Iran will have a bullseye on it.
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PortlandZoo
Wait... what?
03:24 PM on 10/19/2012
it's bolton I worry about - he is a stain and a very good reason (among thousands of others) to NOT vote for willard/meerkat.
12:13 AM on 10/19/2012
Excellent article...