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Robert Kuttner

Robert Kuttner

Posted: April 4, 2010 03:36 PM

Fiscal Folly

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The Peter G. Peterson Foundation is sponsoring a "fiscal summit" on April 28 to reinforce what has become the standard narrative about the perils of the deficit and the debt. In this storyline, the most dire peril facing the economy is the increasing public debt. Of course, the more immediate problem is the high unemployment rate, the risk of a largely jobless recovery, and a lost generation of prosperity.

We finally blasted our way out of the Great Depression by using the monumental deficit spending of World War II to put Americans back to work and recapitalize US industry. We did not use budget austerity to produce the wartime and postwar boom - quite the opposite. Then when prosperity returned, high growth made it easy to return to fiscal balance and pay down the war debt.

Here is an extract from the announcement:

"[T]he 2010 Fiscal Summit: America's Challenge and a Way Forward ... will take place in Washington, DC on April 28, 2010, featuring a moderated discussion of the issues with President Bill Clinton. We will send a more detailed agenda shortly, but we hope that you will save the date and plan to join us for this important forum.


The purpose of this event is to further a national dialogue on solving America's fiscal challenges through several moderated discussions with leaders on the issue from across the political spectrum. In addition to President Bill Clinton, who will be interviewed by George Stephanopoulos, we will hear from a range of experts, including Paul Volcker and Alan Greenspan, Former Chairmen of the Federal Reserve; Bob Rubin, Former Secretary of the Treasury; Alice Rivlin, former OMB Director and Member, National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform; Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH), Member, National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform; John Podesta, President and CEO of the Center for American Progress; John Castellani, President of Business Roundtable, and others."

This is such a travesty that it's hard to know where to begin.

For starters, note the prominent role of Robert Rubin and Alan Greenspan. If any two Americans are responsible for the economic, financial and fiscal mess we're in, they are Rubin and Greenspan. Much of the rising deficit, after all, is the result of the financial collapse. The main reason for the big deficits is that tax revenues are down in a severe recession. The financial collapse also required the government to step in with increased public spending.

If the orgy of financial deregulation that led to the crash had two prime sponsors, the Democratic one was Rubin and the Republican one was Greenspan. Inviting these characters to a fiscal summit to devise a way out of the crisis is like inviting arsonists to design a seminar on fire prevention.

Peterson himself, who underwrites the work of the foundation with a billion dollar gift, made his money as one of America's private-equity moguls. Private equity companies have been among main offenders in the world of shadow banking that helped cause the collapse, and are now lobbing against tough financial reform and regulation.

Note also the courtesy title, "President Clinton." The last time I checked, Clinton ceased being president in January 2001 and Barack Obama is America's only current president. Clinton signed several of the deregulation laws promoted by Rubin and Greenspan that led to the collapse, which in turn produced much of today's fiscal hole. I wonder if Clinton is doing this pro malo, I mean pro bono, or if Peterson is paying him one of his Clinton's usual six-figure speaking fees.

This is billed as a "national dialogue on solving America's fiscal challenges," but spare me. This is a propaganda event. For the most part, the featured speakers follow the Peterson line. John Podesta, the closest thing to a liberal playing a headliner role, accepts that there is a serious deficit problem, but would entertain a value-added tax as part of the remedy. But the speakers' list is clearly stacked and there is no one to Podesta's left.

The Peterson Foundation and its president, David Walker, already know exactly what they want -- strict budget caps on social outlay, enforced by a rigid formula, with cuts in Medicare and Social Security leading the way. Walker, whom I have interviewed and debated, is willing to include tax increases as well as spending cuts, but most Republicans are not.

This reality will make it politically difficult if not impossible for either the new national commission on fiscal reform (which is a twin of the Peterson agenda) or the Peterson Foundation itself to succeed with its plan to put the budget on autopilot and extract deep cuts in social outlay. But in the meantime, these maneuvers do serious damage to the recovery effort, by making it politically more difficult for President Obama to even consider the kind of public spending that the economy needs to get back on the track to broad prosperity.

Obama himself has contributed to this trap by creating the presidential commission, a clear majority of whose members are deficit hawks. There are just four liberals out of the commission's 18 members. Its executive director is Bruce Reed of the Democratic Leadership Council, home of the Democratic Party's corporate faction. The Peterson summit comes a day after the official commission's opening meeting April 27.

Because Walker has been so deft at including bipartisan deficit hawks, and at cloaking his attack on social insurance as a crusade for the public good, he gets a very respectful press. Part of his storyline is that if so much money were not being spent on the aged, there would be more money for the young and for other social needs. But when legislative efforts are made to increase outlays for early childhood, or for college aid, or for family supports, or labor-market spending the Peterson Foundation is missing in action. Children are handy only as poster children for the attack on Social Security and Medicare.

It's worth a look at the Peterson Foundation's website, which is one part fiscal fear-mongering and one part homilies about thrift so syrupy that they would make Polonius blush. If you want the counter-argument, have a look at fiscalhighroad.org, a partnership of the Economic Policy Institute, Century Foundation and Demos (where I am a part time senior fellow.) Another good resource is the Scholars' Strategy Network, founded last year by Harvard's Theda Skocpol.

Basically, the counter-story goes like this: Yes, we will have a national debt problem if we don't get a return to high growth soon. But the more immediate problem is restoration of prosperity--and in the near term that will require more public outlay, not less. Once a real recovery is on track, we need to increase progressive taxation, both to moderate deficits and to pay for sustained public spending on things the economy and society need, such as 21st century infrastructure, a green economy, good jobs, as well as a national health and pension system.

We need a national debate on this basic choice, with equal prominence for the folks who want to gut social spending and deliver austerity, and those who propose a high road to fiscal stability. But nearly all the resources and the largest megaphone are on one side of the debate. Peterson's April 28th event should be the occasion for counter-argument, and no small measure of ridicule for the proposition that anyone should take the likes of Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin, or Pete Peterson seriously as fiscal prophets.

Robert Kuttner's new book is A Presidency in Peril. He is co-editor of The American Prospect and a senior fellow at Demos.

 
 
 
 
 
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mbarnett
Just a regular guy.
04:59 AM on 05/24/2010
Well, it looks like the real world disagrees with Kuttner (again). Greece is going down due to debt, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, and the UK are following. The US has maybe 2 or 3 years left before debt smothers it. Sorry, dude, but you can't borrow and spend your way out of debt.
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letsgetitdone
01:42 PM on 04/10/2010
I've proposed a Fiscal Sustainability Counter-conference and teach-in to be held on April 28th to try to contradict the message of the Peterson Conference and the first meeting of the President's Commission on the 27th. See:

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/39485

Preparations are underway for the Conference which will focus on the views of Modern Monetary Theory-based Economics
09:07 AM on 04/08/2010
PART OF THE DOWNSIZE DC AGENDA:


FREE COMPETITION IN CURRENCY ACT

Stop inflation, bubbles, and recessions by permitting free market money to compete with Federal Reserve Notes. - http://www.downsizedc.org/etp/campaigns/85


AUDIT THE FED!

Would you like to know what the Federal Reserve is doing behind closed doors? - http://www.downsizedc.org/etp/campaigns/112
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bluepond
person
09:11 PM on 04/06/2010
The most dire peril that faces the American economy is the American consumers' utter disgust and horror with the big business world. Many are rethinking their whole relationship with markets, banks, credit, and consumerism. Maybe not such a terrible thing, but not real great for the traditional economy. Maybe it will foster a new, more locally based economic model.
05:20 PM on 04/06/2010
Playing the devil's advocate here, but I must point out that Mr. Kuttner fails to mention a couple things that we should give us pause about the suggestion that if we embark on all this deficit spending, everything will end up fine and dandy just like postwar America.

For one, a big reason why we had a postwar boom was because Europe's economic capacity was largely destroyed, as was Asia's. As a result we had little economic competition in the years immediately following World War II. To give you an idea, at one point during the 1950s America had something like a 90% share of the automobile market. That's never coming back.

Secondly, we were a creditor nation, making loans to Europe through the Marshall Plan, and in rebuilding their economy, Europe became increasingly reliant on American manufacturing and goods since their domestic economy and manufacturing was in shambles.

And relatedly, a big reason why the unemployment rate was so low during WWII was the fact that 10 million men were out of the workforce because they were in the military. If not for the postwar prosperity that resulted from our lack of economic competition and from Europe's reliance on our goods and loans, it's not clear what America's economic outlook and the employment prospects for the GIs returning from war would've been.
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jrutle
War is not working.
09:06 AM on 04/07/2010
Some good points but its also true that WWII constituted our own Marshall Plan back home where we modernized and recapitalized our industrial plant and developed a highly skilled workforce. Also, when we run high employment we run low deficits or surpluses. Putting the brakes on federal spending at a time when private spending is weak due to high private debt is a recipe for maintaining depression-level unemployment levels and deficits at all levels of government. Kuttner is also right that this is a very biased pro-equity group whose economic philosophies have gotten us into this mess in the first place. They're not the people we should want prescribing our future.
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stevendedalus3
03:39 PM on 04/06/2010
Nevertheless, by appointing Larry Summers and Tim Geithner Obama brought this summit on himself. As for jobs, until we get serious and begin a massive WPA on alternative energy, reviving an industrial complex and shackling so-called creativity in Wall Street so those who actually produce things can lead the economy, the senario will be more of the same.
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429freckles
Ex Republican Now Devoted Democrat
12:20 PM on 04/06/2010
We will never end our financial problems until we as a country determine that we are not the world's peace keepers. As long as the world depends on America to keep harmony -- and America borrows to finance that operations -- we are in trouble.
03:23 PM on 04/06/2010
Congressman Ron Paul, R. Texas, also said " We should not be the world's peacekeepers". Ron Paul was speaking in support of Congressman Dennis Kucinich's bill to stop the war in Afghanistan and bring our troops home.

Only 65 members of the House voted yes on this bill about two weeks ago.

Call your Congressman on the phone and tell him/her "If you do not vote to bring our troops home from Afghanistan I will not vote for you in November".

I have been calling and sending emails to Congress for four years to BRING OUR TROOPS HOME FROM IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.

If everyone would call and then vote them out of office if they did not listen then maybe they will listen.
11:32 AM on 04/06/2010
Mr. Kuttner, have you ever given thought to the very basic premise that we won't recover until the government is downsized? That the debt IS the impediment to growth?

The government is going to spend nearly $4 trillion next year. That is double what they spent 10 years ago. Did the country get wealthier by double? Did incomes double? Did the stock market double? How can we afford doubling the size of the government when in most cases, people are poorer than they were 10 years ago? Its topsy-turvey. We pay for the government out of taxes. If the tax base is dwindling, then we can't afford more spending. Money that the government borrows and spends is capital and credit that the private sector is deprived of. If the government didn't spend so much, more would be available to create jobs in the private sector.
11:18 AM on 04/07/2010
Nonsense.
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brunnegd
09:37 AM on 04/06/2010
I pay taxes on the national debt. I don't like doing that. I send money to the Feds that I could be saving for retirement or my children's education, or on stuff.
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den1953
The National Inquire of Politics the GOP!
09:36 AM on 04/06/2010
America has been in a jobless recovery since the early 90's were in a survival mode now!
09:32 AM on 04/06/2010
BRAVO Mr Kuttner this the way ,facing the reallity.
09:13 AM on 04/06/2010
Thats some panel. I can already tell you their recomendations. Cut SS and Medicare as well as Medicaid and more tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans as well as less regulation on large banks.
These are sure to get the economy rolling again, Especially if voters put the likes of Palin, Romney, Pawlenty, Huckaby or others of their ilk in office. We're in big trouble here.
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cmaurand
08:33 AM on 04/06/2010
Its more than just adjusting the progressive tax structure that is needed. There needs to be a stimulation of production. The problem over the last 30 or, dare I say 40 years (save for the 4 years of President Carter) is that there has been a concentration on consumer spending which accounts for the majority of economic activity in the country. While all that is good, there has been no attention paid to production of goods which is where the value add and profits for the country come from. Robert Reich said it a few years ago, "Stimulate production, consumption will take care of itself." If you put people to work making quality products at a decent wage, they will have money to spend in restaurants, on travel, on cars, on boats, etc., etc.
there has been too much emphasis on tax cuts for the wealthy to be sure (1.2 trillion under a republican president and congress without paying for it. President Reagan did the same thing. Add to that, 2 unfunded, undeclared wars and one sees the deficit problems.) With all the spending on military conflicts, infrastructure spending has fallen by the wayside. Tax incentives to move jobs overseas have to be eliminated. Tax incentives to produce domestically will have a much greater ripple effect throughout the entire economy. Its also time to cut military spending. The US cannot afford to spend as much we do on the military, any longer.
08:31 AM on 04/06/2010
This commission is just more of the well modulated campaign of the rich to make sure nobody looks at "their' money as a fix for the current mess. it is also to make Democrats feel like they can't do any program that spends money. This after record spending and tax cuts by the rep.s. This is just part of a wider propaganda campaign.
08:31 AM on 04/06/2010
"We finally blasted our way out of the Great Depression by using the monumental deficit spending of World War II to put Americans back to work and recapitalize US industry. "

Yes, Robert, i see your point.
We can get prosperity back if we just borrow from our children.... and a big war would help.
09:19 AM on 04/06/2010
we blasted our way out of the great depression by being the only economy left standing thereby becoming the manufacturing capitol of the world. Now we send all the manufacturing to China.
You can't have a vibrant middle class on minimum wage jobs and even those are hard to get
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429freckles
Ex Republican Now Devoted Democrat
12:15 PM on 04/06/2010
I agree with you wvgale. Problem is, the upper class has no compassion for the lower class. The less they pay -- the more they make. They will have no end to that cycle. Being a service country is just like saying we are a servant country. That's what we have to look forward to. The race for clean energy & therefore clean energy jobs will not be won by America. We are already too far behind to compete effectively on the scraps of money that Congress (ie Republicans) will allow to be spent. As well, industry has no intention on allowing those green energy jobs to stay here in America when they can export the labor and MAKE MORE money. It's all about the green. Now that corporations are people and can spend countless "green" to influence the uninformed, & uneducated the middle class of America is doomed. There is truth to the saying that "the more a lie is told -- the more likely it will be accepted as the truth."