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Muddled Class Warfare

Posted: 09/18/11 10:23 PM ET

President Obama will propose a millionaires' tax as part of the deficit-reduction package to be unveiled Monday. This is a great idea, which has already been branded "class warfare" by the Republicans.

The problem is the rest of the expected speech, which entirely mixes Obama's message to voters. Obama is widely expected to propose cutting $300 billion from Medicare over a decade, including a widely-leaked increase in the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67.

That really is a kind of class warfare, directed against the vast majority of older Americans who cannot afford to buy decent health insurance in the private marketplace.

UPDATE: Early this morning, there were reports that the proposed increase in the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67 has been scrapped. If true, this is a victory for progressives who have been pressing the White House not to commit political suicide -- Campaign for America's Future deserves a special salute for its leadership on this issue. It's also another gain for the White House beginning to recognize that scapegoating social insurance in a recession makes neither political nor economic sense.

By contrast, the proposed tax on people who make over a million dollars a year is sensible, and smokes out Republicans as defenders of wrongheaded economics and the very rich.

Rep. Paul Ryan told Fox News that the proposed tax "adds further instability to our system, more uncertainty, and it punishes job creation." This, of course, is total malarkey.


Tax rates on the rich were higher during the Clinton years, when the economy was booming, and higher still during the long post World War II boom, when the economy grew at nearly 4 percent per year for better than two decades and the great blue collar middle class was built.

If people have money in their pockets, businesses invest, investors make a bundle and willingly pay taxes on it. If the economy is flat, tax cuts won't fix it. Most of the people hit by the proposed surtax are those who have continued to make out like bandits despite the distress in the rest of the economy.

Obama was quite effective on that point in his jobs speech of September 8. He said in part:

Right now, Warren Buffett pays a lower tax rate than his secretary -- an outrage he has asked us to fix. We need a tax code where everyone gets a fair shake, and everybody pays their fair share.

Obama will call his surtax "the Buffett Rule" in honor of the billionaire who wants higher taxes and who once said of class warfare that there was indeed a class war in America and his class, the very rich, were winning.

But in the rest of the September 19 speech, Obama is expected to emphasize deficit reduction, a cause near and dear to the financial elite.

If ever there were a time when a touch of class was good politics, it is now. But deficit reduction as a cure for a prolonged jobs recession not only mixes the message. It does nothing to put unemployed people back to work and it deprives government of the resources it needs to help the needy and get the economy back on track.

Cutting Medicare is even worse politics. If you wanted to address the projected shortfall in Medicare in a fashion that was sensitive to class, you might propose giving Medicare the authority to negotiate bulk discounts with drug companies. You might point out that it was Republicans under President George W. Bush who explicitly stripped government of that authority.

Obama's proposed cuts that are part of a bipartisan deficit reduction package will take money away from a whole range of early childhood and income-support programs that help the working poor. In a deep jobs recession, that's class warfare, big time, and it's the wrong kind.

As for the proposed tax increase, one might applaud more if it were part of a bigger-ticket jobs program. Regular people support the principle of taxation based on the ability to pay -- but not because most Americans like soaking the rich as an end itself. The idea has far more resonance if it is part of a believable strategy to end the jobs recession and restore broad prosperity.

Since Republicans are going to block this proposed tax in any case, Obama's advisers can wink at the Wall Street millionaires who are financing his campaign and signal that there is no cause to worry.

While Obama is willing to include a whiff of class when it comes to proposing new sources of revenue to reduce the deficit, he is still in thrall to financial elites who want to bet the farm on deficit reduction as a cure for the larger economic recession. That is dubious economics and worse politics.

If you are going to practice the politics of class, is some consistency too much to ask? The proposed Buffett tax takes a token swipe at the very rich, while much of the rest of the program cuts outlays that help the working and middle class -- and blurs distinctions with Republicans.

As long as Republicans are going to condemn Obama as a class warrior, he might as well earn the label.



Robert Kuttner is co-editor of The American Prospect and a senior fellow at Demos. His latest book is A Presidency in Peril.

 
 
 
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stevendedalus3
12:55 PM on 10/02/2011
"Public interest" is defense but it has to be kept in balance. The rich and not so rich have amassed fortunes since the Reagan years. Their payback is long overdue.
05:19 PM on 09/25/2011
It is true that old age benefits are a useful function of the government. Other than that, people see little concrete benefit, so all people, especially those rich enough to influence our current corrupt system, naturally resist paying taxes. As part of a balanced approach, the militarist structure needs to be reduced and public benefits increased before we will be able to address wealthy resistance to higher taxes.
03:59 PM on 09/25/2011
none of you get it.... and it has been written about by others beside me...you just don't want to deal with it... we have a big problem with technology and it's application in all fields some where it is beneficial and some where its not... and we have a problem with population....the world is finite ...and this is not the same world it was just fifty years ago..I think it is time for those who study the humanities and the artists be given more attention you Harvard educated ones and your like have lead us where.... we are so happy and contended here ...than why do we drown ourselves an numb out with all the drugs we do both in the ghetto and on wall street...where has our version of a civil society got us...how bout some answers on the reply window all you pillars of "WISDOM" or are you just edgy k ted mules
02:52 PM on 09/25/2011
Would you rather that Warren Buffett gives his next billion to the USGovernment, Or funds 1,000 business with a $1 MIllion investment? Guess which one gets you more jobs ?
10:46 AM on 09/25/2011
It doesn't matter what Obama proposes. Unless he gives the Republicans at least 98% of what they demand, nothing passes the House.
04:52 AM on 09/25/2011
Tell em why any two person in USA should be taxed differently? Why two persons pay different tax ***amount**** to govt for the same service they get back from the govt?
Wendy sells burgers for the same price to anyone...so does Apple or Nike or AT&T or Brinks security service....
Waht govt takes different amount of money from differnt people?
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Si1ver1ock
So long, and thanks for all the fish...
08:49 AM on 09/25/2011
We have had a progressive income tax since its creation.
10:38 AM on 09/25/2011
incorrectly so
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treetracker
11:39 AM on 09/25/2011
Well for one they don't all get back the same services. Every state, county and city across the country provides some "incentive" -- meaning tax break or cheap land or infrastructure goodies -- for them to open a business. Do you think that's going to change anytime soon? Even with a so called flat tax? How about all that public education their workers get that we pay for and they don't?

And then let's look at it this way. Say you make $50K a year and you pay 10% in taxes - that's $5K, so now your income is $45K ....or say you earn $25K a year, so your tax liability would be $2500. In reality it's pretty hard to live on $25K a year, so now you get to live on $22,500. What about all the other taxes you pay...state sales tax, state income tax, gas tax, phone tax, electric tax, sewer tax, property tax, school bond taxes, license plates, and, of course, FICA. So by the time you get done paying all those taxes/fees that are NOT going to go away, just how much money will you have left to pay your health,car insurance, the mortgage/rent, the phone, the gas/electric, and the cable bill, feed the kids, and sock something away for the college education or your retirement?

That's WHY we have a progressive tax system in this country.

If you want to change that, you'd better be careful what you wish for.
02:22 PM on 09/25/2011
What about all the other taxes you pay...stat­e sales tax, state income tax, gas tax, phone tax, electric tax, sewer tax, property tax, school bond taxes, license plates, and, of course, FICA,,,,,,

Two things.
1. The high tax payers get back less then the no tax payers (hence the name "takers"). for e.g. my son is done schooling but I still pay huge amount of money which goes to school system. Even when my son was in school the entire 12 years i think I was not only paying for his schooling but also for another 2.8 students ...in return for poor standard of education.
2. Most of the charges you mentioned above should be based on consumption only as "charges". not as taxes. Hence if you use the service you pay for it. otherwise you do not. if you do not buy gas you do not pay gas-tax / charge. if you do not have a phone you do not need to pay for phone tax/ charge. (BTW why if govt taxing on phone service which is rendered by a private company?)

finally if we make for every $1000 you pay as tax you get one extra vote then the system will be equitable. because you have a vested interest int eh welfare of the govt and you are entitled to question how you money is being spent. unlike in govt it tax my money and gives it to Union thugs
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02:51 AM on 09/25/2011
If the Republic'CONS' party supporters having any sense of humor, just watch Colbert Nation in the following clip:

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/397491/september-20-2011/barack-obama-unveils-the--buffett-rule-

To Republic'CONS', I say f......k your class-warfare. Just pay your f...,ing dues! Free ride is over, dudes! It is time to pay up or shut up!
10:41 AM on 09/25/2011
They are. It is time for the 50% not paying any federal taxes to start paying their dues for the federal services they get
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8arrows
Crushing my enemies and driving them before me
01:41 PM on 09/25/2011
Do you comprehend that most of the 50% that doesn't pay income tax barely has enough money to get by? And what about the fact that they pay a higher percentage of their income in sales taxes? I think some folks need to think twice before they attack the poor...
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treetracker
01:53 PM on 09/25/2011
Would that be the seniors who have worked all their lives and are now living on SS only that you want to pay taxes?

How about the disabled?

How about the working poor who only make minimum wage? What's their fair share?
How about we increase the minimum wage so they CAN pay taxes? Rather than allowing employers to pay a minimum wage and provide no health care so the rest of us can pay for them via Medicaid and foods stamps?

All this has been for years and years is corporations and businesses shifting the burden to the taxpayers so they can have cheap workers and no benefits to pay for them...until, of course, the took our jobs overseas with the blessing of government, so now we have fewer and fewer who can pay taxes since they are effectively wiping out the middle class.

Please see the forest and not just the trees they want you to focus on.
04:40 AM on 09/21/2011
Not much to comment on here! Putting a little class on Class warfare? C'mon!If Buffett said his secretary pays a higher rate that he does? There is deception in that statement. Buffett pays millions in taxes at the capital gains rate. His secretary pays a few thousand dollars at the earned income rate.
Most people think his secretary pays more taxes than he does, but that can't be true. If it is, then Buffett is abusing the tax code. I would like to see both 1040s from Buffett and his secretary before I can believe in the Buffett rule. If Obama follows the "Buffet rule" he is agreeing to more deception. So what else is new? Now you know!
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Baileygk
homosexual socialist, and proud of it!
03:42 AM on 09/25/2011
Rate and amount are two different things, but you know that, don't you? Are you paid to confuse the two?
09:00 AM on 09/25/2011
f course I know that. I pointed it out! The President didn't. Buffett didn't. They are the deceivers. See! Now you know!
02:59 PM on 09/20/2011
Republicans and those they represent want all the benefits and priviliges of American citizenship and residency without any costs, understandably in order to maximize wealh accumulation. At some point government has to say, Too bad. No free lunches forever. Not likely to happen under present circumstances. The free lunches, breakfasts, and dinners will go on.
02:06 PM on 09/20/2011
What I see in these comments are a lot of people earnest in their beliefs and wanting things to change for the better in America. Unfortunately nothing is going to change in America, and in fact things will likely get worse until the American people deal with a scourge that has overtaken democracy. That scourge is money and it has created what will surely become a failed democracy unless things change. Most urgently, America needs reform of it's campaign contribution laws so that politicians and elections can no longer be bought. That starts with the Supreme court which somehow decided that Corporations are citizens, at least with respect to politics, and who also decided that just because you have more votes than the other guy doesn't mean you win the election. America also needs to control the influence of lobbyists and the money they can throw at politicians. Just as an example, the pharmaceutical industry spends more money lobbying government now than it spends on research. Why? Because it pays off. It is just seen as a cost of doing business. This is the cancer that has infected American politics and nothing in America will change for the better for middle class America until your politicians and judiciary are no longer for sale.
02:46 PM on 09/20/2011
Excellent comments, JEH. The politicians and judiciary are for sale indeed. Bought and sold. Nothing will change (for the better) in the meantime.
03:38 AM on 09/25/2011
the supreme court ruled that corps are individuals under the law, not citizens.

corps have always been considered "individual" under the law. the supreme court simply clarified what has always been.

as far as money buying elections i believe obama has garnered records money levels so far for 2012.

his 2008 largest contributors ...... note GE @ hal a million .... you know them the big bad ZERO taxpayer.

University of California
$1,648,685

Goldman Sachs
$1,013,091

Harvard University
$864,654

Microsoft Corp
$852,167

Google Inc
$814,540

JPMorgan Chase & Co
$808,799

Citigroup Inc
$736,771

Time Warner
$624,618

Sidley Austin LLP
$600,298

Stanford University
$595,716

National Amusements Inc
$563,798

Wilmerhale Llp
$550,168

Skadden, Arps et al
$543,539

Columbia University
$541,002

UBS AG
$532,674

IBM Corp
$532,372

General Electric
$529,855

US Government
$517,908

Morgan Stanley
$512,232

Latham & Watkins
$503,295
04:47 PM on 09/26/2011
Dog - fair enough companies are treated like individuals. What is important is that contributions to Republicans by the above mentioned parties were, by and large, similar to the contributions made to the Dems. They play both sides of the street and really don't care, or need to care, who is elected/bought. They own all of them. Maybe not Bernie Sanders.
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John LaVoy
11:44 AM on 09/20/2011
I suggest we can learn a great deal from Matt. As a proud member of the "wealthy", he is quite content to feel unfairly treated and to cast aspersions on the 47% of American who make so little money their income can't be meaningfully taxed. Yet when asked directly to consider the substantial tax advantages provided to the wealthy, he avoids responding.

Conservatives have perfected the art of mouthing talking points as a way of avoiding meaningful discussion.
12:11 PM on 09/25/2011
What exactly are the substantial tax advantages provided to the wealthy as compared to paying no tax. You can argue that the wealthy should pay more or that being wealthy is better than being poor. You can't argue that paying some tax is less fair than paying no tax.
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Sherry Powell
Nostalgia isn’t what it used to be
08:26 AM on 09/20/2011
It's not raising Taxes on the Top Wealth..it's doing away with the TAX BREAK BUSH GAVE THEM. Just taking it back to where it used to be under Clinton. So if I understand the Tea Party ..they want the Rich to have MO MONEY.. and the elderly, sick, poor and unfortunate to die so they won't have to trip over them on their way to the Bank?
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Matt Norman
03:21 AM on 09/20/2011
Top 1% earn 19% of the income and 40 percent of the taxes. The bottom 47% who take most of the social services pay 0% federal income tax. I am trying to figure out what is fair.
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Romeover
Civilization is for weaklings.
06:37 AM on 09/20/2011
Let me help you with your figuring.

What is not "fair" is that the top 1% skims off 19% of the income. What is not "fair" is that the top 1% has grabbed 40% of the wealth. What is not "fair" is that the top 1% uses their wealth to perpetuate the system that has profited them so much at the expense of the bottom 80%.
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Matt Norman
08:35 AM on 09/20/2011
They top 1% earned the wealth. Again liberals think you should get paid for sitting on the couch. The top 1% of the earners and producers. The bottom 47% are slackers that take the most for doing nothing.
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
08:54 PM on 09/20/2011
please describe any scenario where this wont take place......to accumulate wealth, you have to save money.
Chinawanderer
A biography should never be micro
08:08 AM on 09/20/2011
Well, you don't seem terribly embarrassed that the top 1 percent have so gamed the system that 47 percent of the people are so poor that they do not have to pay taxes. Tell me, why don't you find that embarrassing? Tell me how it is fair for the top 10 percent of the people to control nearly 90 percent of the wealth in this country.

Are you afraid that those 47 percent might actually have a modicum of comfort in their lives?
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Matt Norman
08:44 AM on 09/20/2011
Because I am actually probably in the top 10% in yearly earners, but I don't waste my money. I have had the same car for 10 years now that I bought used. I have a very modest home with a $650 payment, I don't carry a balance on my credit cards and I put as much as I can in savings. I don't need the latest Iphone.

I know a lot of bottom 47% and they are there do to their own accord. They waste their money and think they can just spend it all every week, and run up their credit cards. At some point the bill man is going to come. As Tyler Dryden said "the things that you own end up owning you".
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JDM73
male, 38, writer/draughtsman/ex-musician
03:03 AM on 09/20/2011
The president isn't mixed up. He doesn't lack boldness. He isn't "listening to the wrong people". Something or someone else isn't the problem: Barack Obama is the problem. How many terrible proposals does he have to put forward before people admit the truth to themselves?
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Romeover
Civilization is for weaklings.
06:40 AM on 09/20/2011
The sad truth is that Mr. Obama's proposals only have to be marginally less terrible than those of his opponents in order for him to win.

Considering that his opponents are drawn from the Marie Antoinette School of Economics, Mr. Obama doesn't have to try very hard.
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02:00 AM on 09/20/2011
What TF is wrong with these Republican idiots? Really!!!

Progressive tax rates is not class warfare, it is called "joyful giving required by laws" if you are really religious as most of you making the claim!

Apparently, the Swedish people are smarter than us. They pay a lot in taxes in comparison in order for them to build a strong and stable social and economical society. The Swedish people understand the concept of shared sacrifice for the good of the public and national interests. It is ob vious that some of the Republi'cons' party leaders and their super-and-mega rich wealthy Americans don't give a sh..t if America is going down the toilet as long as it does not affect their personal banking account!