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Social Security: Secure with Obama?

Posted: 01/01/12 07:41 PM ET

The Republicans handed President Obama a nice tactical victory when they caved in just before Christmas and agreed to extend the payroll tax cut on Obama's terms (with no offsetting program cuts.) But the extension deal is only for two months, which means the battle will be fought all over again in February.

You could say this is double-stupidity on the Republicans' part, since the public will be treated yet again to a debate in which the Democrats want to tax millionaires in order to spare working people a tax hike, while Republicans defend the very rich and demand further cuts in valued programs as the price of avoiding a tax increase on ordinary Americans.

But maybe it's Democrats who have set themselves a trap. Some Social Security advocates contend that Obama's nice partisan victory is hollow if not Pyrrhic.

As you may recall, the worker share of the payroll tax was cut from 6.2 percent to 4.2 percent as a temporary economic stimulus measure. Under the present arrangement, the tax cut will be extended, but not at the expense of the Social Security trust funds, which will be made whole from transfers from general government revenues. So far, so good.

Here's the problem, say progressive critics of the deal.

First, it will never be a good time politically for either party to vote to raise Social Security taxes on working people, even once the economy is back in recovery. So the trust funds will be permanently reliant on subsidy from general government revenues. That, say critics, will make it seem less solvent, and less like an earned benefit, further softening Social Security up for privatization.

Second, if we are going to increase the deficit to stimulate the economy, tax cuts -- even on regressive payroll taxes -- are the weakest form of economic stimulus. Dollar for dollar, public investment is far more effective. So, even though the millionaire battle is a good one, Democrats are once again playing on Republican turf, where the issue is defined as who is the more reliable defender of tax cuts.

Let's take these arguments in turn. In fact, there is no good reason why Social Security has to be funded entirely by payroll taxes. No less than Franklin Roosevelt, in the program's original design, projected that as more and more workers became eligible, general government revenue would have to be part of its financing. And the payroll tax, capped at $107,000 of income and levied on the first dollar of earnings with no deductions or exemptions, is one of our most regressive taxes. Subsidizing Social Security with general revenue is good policy. As long as the system is substantially financed by payroll taxes, the benefit still feels earned.

The devil, of course, is in the details. Making up the Social Security gap with a tax on millionaires is a double win. It makes the tax system more progressive, and it starkly poses alternatives in a way that plays to progressive strengths.

The critics are right, however, that Democrats should be battling for public investments, not tax cuts. Still, when the issue arose of whether to extend the temporary tax relief on worker payroll taxes, there was no way Democrats could have supported what would feel like a tax increase in a jobs recession.

Going forward, how this issue plays out will depend substantially on President Obama. Will he continue to support taxing millionaires as a way of defending Social Security? Or will he revert to his stance during his Bowles-Simpson phase of putting Social Security cuts on the chopping block as part of a grand budget bargain?

That posture, in turn, will depend heavily on how much hell progressive Democrats keep raising whenever their president flirts with Social Security cuts. Shifting from an austerity posture to a stance of emphasizing jobs and defense of social insurance has turned out to be good politics for Obama. So, if nothing else, sheer expediency should push him in a progressive direction.

At the same time, Obama still has a worrisome tendency to position himself above partisan politics and to blame something called "Congress" for legislative blockage rather than blaming the source of the blockage, namely Republican obstruction and extremism. According to the deputy press secretary Joshua Earnest, quoted in the lead political story in Sunday's New York Times, Obama's election year strategy will be to attack "the image of a gridlocked, dysfunctional Congress and a president who is leaving no stone unturned to find solutions to the difficult financial challenges and economic challenges facing the country."

Say what? Who made Congress dysfunctional and gridlocked? Can't Obama savor a partisan victory in which he just helped Republicans marginalize themselves on a popular issue like payroll tax relief without reverting to a posture that accords his own party and the Republican opposition equal blame?

I think those in the progressive camp who worry about the impact of the payroll tax cut on Social Security are mostly addressing the wrong concern. On the other hand, continuing vigilance is needed on Social Security -- and we should never underestimate the capacity of this president to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

Robert Kuttner is co-editor of The American Prospect and a senior fellow at Demos. His latest book is A Presidency in Peril.

 
 
 
The Republicans handed President Obama a nice tactical victory when they caved in just before Christmas and agreed to extend the payroll tax cut on Obama's terms (with no offsetting program cuts.) But...
The Republicans handed President Obama a nice tactical victory when they caved in just before Christmas and agreed to extend the payroll tax cut on Obama's terms (with no offsetting program cuts.) But...
 
 
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01:32 PM on 02/22/2012
Obama - Keep Your Promise and Repeal the unfair GPO and WEP laws that have cut up to 60% of EARNED Social Security benefits for millions of American seniors. You promised to repeal these laws when you were candidate Obama. But now that you're president, there's not a word out of you on the subject. A man is only as good as his word.
01:29 PM on 02/22/2012
For nearly 30 years, the United States government has been cheating millions of Social Security recipients out of up to 60% of their EARNED benefits due to the unfair WEP and GPO laws. Bills to repeal these laws that have thrown many seniors into complete poverty are never even voted on by our cowardly congress. That's because whenever a bill to repeal these unfair laws they are tied up in committee and never see the light of day. Our congress people whine that they can't live on their $174,000 per year salaries, yet they have no trouble sleeping at nights when America's senior citizens have been forced into poverty because of this nation's corrupt Social Security laws. We can’t afford to pay seniors the benefits that they actually earned but we can afford to give away billions to foreign banks and squander over FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS in Iraq and Afghanistan.
07:30 PM on 01/03/2012
Its the potential for broader reform and deeper cutbacks that we should worry about. Obama is a pragmatist and if he has to debate Romney--a more opportunistic pragmatist--the stage could be set for whoever wins to offer deep cuts in both Social Security and Medicare, especially if the economy does not markedly improve during the next year.
01:31 PM on 01/03/2012
Kuttner doesn't know what he is talking about. The payroll tax holiday is a disaster for Social Security. It destroys the very nature of Social Security, turning an insurance program for workers paid for by the workers themselves into a welfare program paid for by deficit spending.

Kuttner makes clear that turning SS into welfare as we knew it is his objective when he calls SS a "regressive tax." Meaning he wants "the rich" to pay for your retirement. FDR was smarter than this... despite the bogus quote that Kuttner attributes to FDR. FDR had to repeatedly remind the SS commission NOT to make it "the dole." He wanted the workers to pay for it themselves "so no damn politician can take it away from them."

Well, that worked fine for 75 years until Obama and the Democrats found a way to destroy Social Security: just take away its funding and call it a "tax holiday." And then make an election issue out of extending that holiday to avoid "a huge tax increase on the poor."

These are lies. They are in fact damn lies.
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roberttsf
Give War A Chance
01:51 PM on 01/03/2012
Uhm, this is quite possibly one of the most insightful and one of the only germaine comments in this entire string. Well done Sir.
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spud3
Forward into oblivion
01:24 PM on 01/03/2012
Read it and weep:
http://wha­tthefuckha­sobamadone­sofar.com/
The above comment was highlighted as abusive but never removed at my request
02:12 PM on 01/03/2012
spud

i assume it was my comment you found abusive. was that because it disagreed with you? or because it said accurately, if not tactfully, that Kuttner doesn't know what he was talking about?
or did the d word offend your sensibilities. Sorry about that, but that's another technical word.

Mark Twain (i think) talked about "lies, damned lies, and statistics." Calling ending the payroll tax holiday a "huge tax raise" is a damned lie. some day you may understand why.
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spud3
Forward into oblivion
04:48 PM on 01/03/2012
I'm a payroll master and a tax preparer.....the payroll tax holiday is nickel dime stuff.
I don't think the f bomb needs to be part of this program.
I've been deleted with 20 favored comments for much less than this.
HP runs a double standard.
11:14 AM on 01/03/2012
Last year was the first year in it's history that Social Security paid out more than it took in.
That's right.....Social Security was officially in the red and reliant upon borrowed money to stay in business. As we are currently borrowing about 40 cents for every dollar that our government spends it is absolutely STUPID to cut the amount of tax money that we pay into Social Security.
BTW, for those that believe we have a couple of trillion dollars in the "Lock Box"......it's a lie. The money has been spent and worthless IOU's are taking the place where real dollars should be. There is no money in the program other than what is withheld from workers every payday.
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roberttsf
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11:24 AM on 01/03/2012
Smart.
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hawkeye58
Open to the truth...
11:33 AM on 01/03/2012
Not true:
In fact, 2010 was the first year that Social Security income was not enough to cover benefits. The fund only received $637 billion from payroll taxes, but paid out $702 billion in benefits (and an additional $9 billion in administration and other fund costs). However, the Fund also took in $24 billion from taxing those benefits, and $119 billion from the interest on the "special issue" securities, and $2 billion in miscellaneous reimbursements.

http://useconomy.about.com/od/glossary/g/Soc_Sec_Trust.htm
01:35 PM on 01/03/2012
hawkeye

you are a little confused. interest you earn on money you saved IS income. however in the long run it does not matter. if current projections hold, a time will come when SS needs to raise its payroll tax... about forty cents per week per year if started now.

but that is IF ONLY the payroll tax holiday is rescinded.
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errol44
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11:06 AM on 01/03/2012
What bothers me on this issue is the thing Democrats simply refuse to talk about: that during the debt ceiling hostage stand-off, the President insisted in several speeches, on the need to cut Social Security and Medicare benefits. Indeed, these were even part of one his proposals to Congress. That any Democrat, let alone the President of the United States, would offer these up so casually as sacrificial fodder is unconsionable.

And regarding the payroll tax cuts, rightly or wrongly, Republicans will in the near future tell us how these tax cuts have weakened the retirement programs to the point where we have to drastically cut benefits (and something tells me Obama will be right there agreeing with them).

And I would disagree that it's never good time to talk about raising payroll taxes to support these programs. Arguably, these programs could work fine for many years as is and with good fiscal oversight. But they could be made even stronger and benefits increased to improve the quality of life for seniors with very small increases in the payroll tax rate.

The problem is, both Republicans and Democrats are now so terrified of the Republican "raising taxes" accusations, that we can't even consider strengthening our economy through increased contributions to our own retirement. It is indeed ironic that since Republicans and Democrats are now all about "personally responsibility," it is impossible to think that we can't make the case for increasing our own retirement benefits through (slightly) higher contributions?
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roberttsf
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01:33 PM on 01/03/2012
". . .it is impossible to think that we can't make the case for increasing our own retirement benefits through (slightly) higher contributi­ons?"

Retirement contributions are great things to have. I think the concern right now in compulsory contributions is that Families that are just barely scrapping by currently see this as a luxury rather than anything else, myself included. I think once the economy recovers this will be less of an issue, but until then as the article above correctly notes it is politically unthinkable. (Sadly it was one of the only things the article above correctly noted.)
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errol44
Just in town for the GOP circus
02:27 PM on 01/03/2012
Hi Robert. Mr. Kuttner said, "...it will never be a good time politically for either party to vote to raise Social Security taxes on working people, even once the economy is back in recovery."

I think anyone would agree that it is better to broach this subject in a robust economy, but to say "never" just gives credence to the Republican notion that we can never, ever again talking about raising a tax contribution, even one that we directly benefit from.

I also agree that, when we are younger, it is easy to see retirement savings (which is what these programs represent) as a luxury. But as we near retirement, it is extremely disheartening to hear a Democratic President tell someone in their 50's like me that, after paying into these programs for 36 years, he wants me to put my retirement off till age 67.
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11:05 AM on 01/03/2012
The thing about 79 million baby boomers is that when they retire they won't have jobs so they can Occupy everything if they want. I don't think it's Obama or the Republicans who will have the largest say on social security. I think it will be the retired baby boomers that show up at the state capital to lobby their legislators and figure out ways to organize that go beyond the tired AARP template.
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roberttsf
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01:34 PM on 01/03/2012
Uh, they already did. See "Tea Party Demographics"
10:25 AM on 01/03/2012
Quit taxing income. It's simply stupid.
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trollsbwild
The beatings will continue until morale improves!
09:51 AM on 01/03/2012
Two quick ways to fix.

Raise taxable limit or eliminate entirely.

If your taxable income is over a agreed upon amount from portfolio earnings, limit amount recipients can get so the fund will be solvent.
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roberttsf
Give War A Chance
01:40 PM on 01/03/2012
I see what you are saying. Here's my question: if portfolio earnings are the only metric for limiting SS recievership then would that kind of thing limit peoples willingness to invest? Another thing what about venture capital investment and other sorts of income possibilities? I think that you are on to something but limiting the scope of metrics may not be a sound concept.
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gutenmorgen
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08:44 AM on 01/03/2012
The fact that the Obama administration felt compelled to dip into the FICA withholding for Federal Insurances to stimulate employment shows me how desperately bad the economic climate really is. And Geithner et al. know that the shit will hit the fan in March or April. Why? Because much of the "Christmas purchases" were done by credit card. The bills will arrive in January but only a fraction of the new debt will be paid in January. There will be a record siphoning of income from spending to banking demanded in February, the effect of which will appear in March-April when consumer spending will drop precipitously because of it. Hence the continuation of the raid on FICA is a top economic priority for the administration. It will sacrifice any Democratic holy cow to get that done. Government spending is not the problem. Non-sustained spending at a time of decreasing mean family incomes is the major economic problem. The only solution is substantial increases of wages by non-government employers. I am talking about 50% if not doubling.
01:21 PM on 01/03/2012
If we could just raise taxes on the wealthy, and increase capital gains taxes, as any SANE economy would be doing right now - as even St. Ronald Reagan did - then we wouldn't be having all these counterproductive back alley attempts to get some money into the hands of consumers.
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roberttsf
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01:46 PM on 01/03/2012
A pragmatic approach indeed. LOL

With defecit spending at 40 cents on the dollar, that pit is a bit too big for just the weathly to fill alone. To suggest otherwise shows blind idealism or severe ineptitude.

The approach must be balanced. i.e. Increased revenue (some form of taxation), and decreased spending. The trouble here is that attempting either in any great fashion in the midst of a recovery could force us into a double dip.
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roberttsf
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01:43 PM on 01/03/2012
"The only solution is substantia­l increases of wages by non-govern­ment employers. I am talking about 50% if not doubling."

I think this is a recipe for massive Inflation.
07:26 AM on 01/03/2012
I, from time to time wonder if the people given the responsibility to keep this countries federal government working smoothly have any real desire to accomplish what they were hired for. We have seen the unmistakable collapse of the working class since the government became so prominent in our every day lives. What with the advent of talk radio, talk cable news, talk network news and even forums like this all over the internet. We are inundated with constant bulletins about who desired what from whom in politics. Our financial structure has become fodder for political talk shows. Our government is slowly picking away at our daily lives. Not with actions of the respective branches of the federal government so much as innuendo and hearsay from one member to another. Our for profit media types cant wait to get some elected official on camera to spout off at the latest outrage. These individuals cant get enough air time for name recognition in the future possibility of further campaigns. For those of us old enough to remember back thirty or forty years. I for one can not recall the whip of either party. During the Ford administration who was the republican whip? The democrat whip? I know it can be looked up. I was wondering why, at such a pivotal point in the history of our government those names dont stand out. Fewer reports on politicians and more on what they do is what we need to make informed decisions.
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09:11 AM on 01/03/2012
less speculating and more facts might restore our confidence in broadcast news. now even npr does teases: eg: in ten minutes we will cover praises to michigan for energy advances. in the case of news, my mother without radio or tv--just a newspaper from bisbee--stays pretty well informed.
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roberttsf
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11:29 AM on 01/03/2012
Here's a list that should make it a bit easier. As you say " Fewer reports on {what} politician­s {say} and more on what they do is what we need to make informed decisions." The list should give you clear evidence of deeds rather than words for your "deciding" enjoyment.


https://www.judicialwatch.org/corrupt-politicians-lists/washingtons-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-for-2011/
07:15 AM on 01/03/2012
Nice. The first African-American, so called Democratic president will go down in history for dismantling the New Deal by triangulating--if not servile to the rich white men protecting their interests and power at the expense of everyone else--who successfully played him.
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11:07 AM on 01/03/2012
I doubt it.
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nolabels
11:55 AM on 01/03/2012
Probably
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rootytoot
06:53 AM on 01/03/2012
Bill Clinton spoke of the fiscal problems with SS. The SS trustees report is easily accessed and it lays bare the fiscal problems of SS. The longer the fiscal problems are ignored the harder it will be to fix them. The biggest lie from the left is that the RW want to destroy , end, SS. The truth is ignoring the real fiscal problems within it will destroy it.
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BRAINS4USA
Vote. Just do it. Always.
07:15 AM on 01/03/2012
No it is not a lie. It is a fact. And nobody is ignoring it. Not much truth and accuracy to your post is there?
11:16 AM on 01/03/2012
No one wants to destroy Social Security (turn off MSNBC for a bit) but the program is broke, went into the red last year and has to be changed in order to stay afloat.
If rootytoot is wrong then please post a link instead of merely saying, "Nuh uh."
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11:09 AM on 01/03/2012
Fix the fiscal problem by raising the income limit for social security taxes to cover the first half million dollars of income. It's foolish to think this income limit won't be raised eventually. If you think that you underestimate the value of the senior vote that is coming.
01:43 PM on 01/03/2012
voter...

raising the cap turns SS into welfare as we knew it.... that is it destroys the program.

you don't need to raise the cap... you can raise the "tax" forty cents per week per year so the people who will get the benefit pay for it.
02:57 PM on 01/03/2012
It is raised every year. As is the amount you have to pay those who pay in on the higher amounts.
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frank1946
Tell the Truth
06:50 AM on 01/03/2012
US Treasury Bonds secure the Trillions borrowed from Social Security, now Pols reduce the
Payroll Tax funding Social Security....................FEDS are panicky about Liquidity so they
reduce the Payroll Tax ?

USA Federal Government is a Ponzi Scheme ! Vote Tea Party. DEMS/GOP are the same.

FEDS now admit they cannot pay Social Security Funds back, ever.