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Robert Kuttner

Robert Kuttner

Posted: August 1, 2010 10:16 PM

This fall, Congress will either follow the conventional wisdom and prematurely cut government outlay before an economic recovery arrives, or it will increase public spending, put jobless Americans back to work, and reduce the deficit in a less painful fashion thanks to increasing economic tailwinds. The road that Congress takes depends on presidential leadership.

Until very recently, deficit hawks were hogging every available megaphone, claiming that deficits and debts were more ominous than protracted joblessness and recession. But you know that this foolish consensus is beginning to crack when political moderates such as columnist Matt Miller, budget guru Robert Greenstein, and Yale economist Robert Shiller take a different view.

Greenstein, who heads the influential Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP), bows to nobody in his longstanding concern about unsustainably large deficits. CBPP's latest paper, by Greenstein's close colleague Paul Van de Water, takes issue with the premise articulated by Erskine Bowles, chair of Obama's own commission on budget reform, that the federal budget should be balanced at about 21 percent of GDP, roughly the postwar average.

But as Van de Water points out in his paper, released July 28:

Such recommendations, however, fail to take account of fundamental changes in society and government -- the aging of the population, substantial increases in health care costs, and new federal responsibilities in areas such as homeland security, education, and prescription drug coverage for seniors. These factors make the expenditure levels of several decades ago inapplicable today. A careful analysis of these factors indicates that it will not be possible to maintain federal expenditures at their average level for decades back to 1970 without making draconian cuts in Social Security, Medicare, and an array of other vital federal activities.

Matt Miller, a longtime budgetary moderate, made a similar argument in Wednesday's Washington Post, noting that spending was well above 21% of GDP under Reagan.

Miller added:

Reagan ran government at this size at a time when 76 million baby boomers weren't about to hit their rocking chairs. In 1988, 32 million retirees received Social Security and 33 million were on Medicare, our two biggest domestic programs. By 2020, about 48 million elderly Americans will receive Social Security, and 62 million Americans will be on Medicare (then the numbers really soar).... Health costs in the Reagan era were around 10 percent of GDP, while they're now 17 percent, headed toward 20. Obviously we need a national crusade to make health-care delivery more efficient. But until there's progress on this front, the 21 percent goal would be tantamount to Democrats agreeing that Uncle Sam should handle health care, pensions, defense and little else.

Obviously, government needs to spend more money, both to get the economy out of the deep jobs recession, and then to meet other commitments valued by citizens. The only way to accomplish these goals is not to get hung up on deficits in the short run -- to spend what it takes to put Americans back to work and then raise taxes on the wealthy so that we can have a more balanced fiscal picture -- but that could be social outlay of 25 percent or even 30 percent of GDP.

Another mainstream economist, Yale's Robert Shiller, author of the book that warned of the financial collapse, Irrational Exuberance, recently wrote in the New York Times that government needed to spend more money putting people back to work directly -- breaking an Obama administration taboo. Obama economic policy chief Larry Summers opposes Roosevelt-style direct jobs programs, and stimulus spending has been carefully directed to the states and the private sector. But Shiller wrote:

Why not use government policy to directly create jobs -- labor-intensive service jobs in fields like education, public health and safety, urban infrastructure maintenance, youth programs, elder care, conservation, arts and letters, and scientific research?

Would this be an effective use of resources? From the standpoint of economic theory, government expenditures in such areas often provide benefits that are not being produced by the market economy. Take New York subway stations, for example. Cleaning and painting them in a period of severe austerity can easily be neglected. Yet the long-term benefit to businesses from an appealing mass transit system is enormous.

Meanwhile, senior Republican economists as orthodox as former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan and former Reagan budget director David Stockman are excoriating the Republican Party and leaders like Senator Mitch McConnell for wanting to extend the Bush tax cuts at a time when a long-term path to fiscal discipline needs to be a combined recovery program.

So here is the state of play:

Republicans are setting themselves up as the wildly irresponsible party by arguing that we can have both tax cutting and effective fiscal and economic policies, too. Sensible moderates are breaking with the orthodox view that we need smaller government.

This is another of those teachable moments.

But where is the high-profile Obama speech making clear that the top priority for now is putting America back to work, that deficit reduction will come when the economy is back on track -- and that the budget will not be balanced on the backs of those who depend on Social Security, Medicare, and other key social outlays?

The misguided Erskine Bowles, with his austerity program, did not drop into the budget debate from Mars. He was appointed by Barack Obama.

The New York Times reported Sunday that Obama has been meeting with vulnerable Democratic members of Congress, offering to do anything to help them -- including staying out of their districts. The front-page piece, by political reporter Jeff Zeleny, was headlined, "To Help Democrats in the Fall, Obama May Stay Away."

Uh, why does this not sound like a winning political strategy? Maybe if Obama got serious about putting Americans back to work and explaining the real connection between an economic recovery and deficit politics, incumbent Democrats -- and voters -- might welcome the president into their districts.

Robert Kuttner's new book is A Presidency in Peril.

He is co-editor of The American Prospect and a senior fellow at Demos.

 
 
 
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09:54 PM on 08/05/2010
Do you people enjoy living in Never Never land? Deficit reduction Never Never comes from big government spending like the spoiled brats they are. Never Never. NEVER! The closest they've ever come is to continually try to take MORE of OUR money, but they ALWAYS spend more than they take. Good grief.
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guveqzero
Inventor and Innovator
10:38 AM on 08/05/2010
The problem we face is that our economy is broken, but Washington, Republicans, many professors and Wall Street just do not want to believe it. Giving more money to businesses and the rich will do nothing to increase jobs. They already have over flowing bank accounts but do not want to spend the money in the US.

The FDR type spending by itself wont fix our broken economy. US commerce laws need to be changed to fix the foundation of domestic production and consumption. Until the slow learners get out of the way, there will be no improvement to the jobless problem.
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dnalpahs
04:11 PM on 08/04/2010
Obama is anti-business.

He take excesses of some on Wall Street and tars the whole business community as greedy, which is like taking election fraud and saying that’s why we shouldn’t have free elections. He caricatures business people in his speeches, and you saw it in that letter that his top aides sent to the Business Roundtable saying our doors are open EVEN to the business community.

It comes down to economic uncertainty surrounding Obama driven new laws, regulations and taxes; the expansion of federal agencies’ authority; and the unknown implications of Obamacare, financial reform and cap-and-trade. And the kicker? Many business people voted for Obama yet all of them now believe he is “at his core, anti-business.”
04:59 AM on 08/04/2010
TURNING EVERYONE INTO A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE IS NOT CREATING JOBS OR HELPING THE ECONOMY UNLESS YOU WANT A SOCIALISTIC STYLE STATE ALA THE FORMER SOVIET UNION WHICH NO DOUBT MANY OF YOU DO.
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guveqzero
Inventor and Innovator
10:59 AM on 08/05/2010
You fear your own shadow at night, don't you? You fear the unknown. US global capitalism has failed, yet you pretend to the contrary. Denial is not a way of life but an obstacle to be overcome.
10:06 PM on 08/05/2010
Capitalism has not failed. What a crock. If it has failed, how did we get all this wealth that you and yours want to take from people and basically pour out on the sidewalk? Or is it just a shallow near-sighted self-centered jealousy of those who have something you don't that motivates your position? I have almost nothing, less than half income right now, no health insurance, no savings and no investments and may be losing my house, but I don't want anything from the government and I'm not taken advantage of by big business, and nobody owes me even PART of what they have. What's wrong with progressives' brains that they can't understand that most of us want to accomplish things on our own without some government employee (competent or NOT) acting like he or she knows my business better than me!!!!
04:51 AM on 08/04/2010
OMG..this article is so delusional and sophmoric that it is insulting . If you agree with this loon then you have no understanding of macro or micro economics and you are beyond reason. If you understand the proposed preposterous solutions and are rational then there is also no need to comment.
How does a government sponsored painting of the NYC subway create jobs? It is taking money from you (taxes) to support someone else instead of the supply and demand forces of the economy creating jobs..
10:06 PM on 08/03/2010
A very nice attempt, Mr Kuttner, but you are once again missing the boat. Mr. Obama was so very busy earlier in the year, traveling the country to tell people that his plan is working. He had to, for they could not see it for themselves.

He is now very busy, but tells the people things are not so good, but they could always be worse. This is very true. My own father told me this as he beat me with a branch from the kikar tree. Mr. Obama is obviously a wise man.

The reality of government spending is this; when the money is gone, so is the job. Government spending creates nothing, it saves nothing, it merely postpones the inevitable. But, if the money must be borrowed, it then creates debt.

Many people in this country speak of economic matters as a child who has found a shiny coin. While he knows he will be beaten when he spends it foolishly, he knows no other way, for he is a child.

You would do well to leave matters of the economy to the elders, Mr. Kuttner.
05:30 AM on 08/04/2010
EXCELLENT !!
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Kassandra
Your micro-bio is empty
05:12 PM on 08/03/2010
Obama fiddles while America ( and Afghanistan) burns. And the Senate just....couldn't bring itself to extend medicaid funding today. while cutting food stamps.
UMPF! right in the kisser!
And Sharon Angle wants to ( in nice words) end freedom of the press...at least on Fixed Noise ( which shouldn't be hard to do)

Somethin' happening here...what it is ain't exactly clear....... ( actually, I think it's getting clearer all the time)
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SirenForSanity
The trouble vine keeps growing.
01:23 PM on 08/03/2010
Why not try something new and exciting. Let's remove people from the supply/demand formula and simply pay fairly in direct proportion to service/product created in relation to importance to success of the employer. Let's banish the term 'human resources'. Let's stop grinding out every penny of profit at the expense of the people doing the work. Let's stop paying people so little that they must depend upon the government to survive. Let's give people incentive to be productive for intrinsic reasons as well as survival and comfort. There may be fewer jobs, but broadcast seeding is much better than a safety net and the eternal wait for the trickle down.
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mjc
Avoid printing any..
10:16 AM on 08/03/2010
Kuttner argues that the appeal of austerity is fading but while this may be true you sure couldn't tell from the Sunday talk shows and blustering of Republicans like Kyl. This coming election is IMO a real concern for Obama and his team of conservatives. There seems to be no difference of any sort between a Democrat...in the Obama administration...and a Republican...in any administration. Obama picked people for his economic team that were trusted by the conservatives on Wall St and on Main St., all seeming to believe that business is the most important element of American society and should be "saved" at all costs. For years economists with great credentials have been saying that you don't cut taxes in an economy in a downward spin and a society involved in two wars...presently. Either Obama believes he knows best or is stubborn, won't change his mind or is completely deluded by guys like Summers, Geithner and Rubin.
09:01 AM on 08/03/2010
we will become a country of pencil necks and talking heads. Our government will be driven to make manditory laws for participation in service industry corporations (like insurance companies ) in order to generate jobs to replace those manufacturing jobs we lost to globalization. We will be at the mercy of the gambling casino dollars and the corruption that envokes.
So, how is that free trade working for you now?”
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Jprog
08:19 AM on 08/03/2010
Bravo, again, Mr. Kuttner! Where IS the Preaident on this? We have an idea though.
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mombabytiger
Looking into the heart of an artichoke.
05:21 AM on 08/03/2010
I have a plan to stimulate the economy. First, get a bunch of money. Then give it directly to us. No strings attached - no qualifiers. If you make over $250,000 a year, your share goes to a non-profit - your choice! - since non-profits always suffer during a recession. Oh - and I get more because it was my idea. We're Americans - we'll spend most of it immediately on silly things like flat-screen TV's and the rest on sillier things like food. It's like "trickle down" except WE get to do the trickling for a change. It could work.
06:00 AM on 08/03/2010
It's been suggested many times by myself and many others. Some say the idea originated with John Stewart on The Daily Show. I know you are being humorous but this idea is a much better idea than bailing out the banks (for example). Had the Gov taken the Stimulus Pack and TARP monies and placed it in an interest barring fund for one year then offered no interest loans (or simply dole it via application) to bail out fourclosures and consumer debt the banks would have been flush with money and not need a bail out. Consumers would then be in a position to stimulate the economy via spending. Stipulations: you'd have to be over 21 yrs. old , own a house and make less than 70 K a year. Mandatory debt counseling (so they don't go out an d buy big screens before they are debt free). The funds would stretch much further and cover more debt this way. If there were moneies left over or the interest compounded to increase the funds you could then offer it to anyone making 70-75K a yr. and so on. The consumer drives the economy. Debt prevents the consumer from spending. If possible I'd suggest keeping this fund going but the Repubs would eventually rob it like they've done Soc.Security. If the Obama Admin had done something like this in the begining the Dems would not be sweating the upcomming elections (even if it failed).
06:13 AM on 08/03/2010
Spending is a viable answer but you have to spend it on the right things to stimulate the economy. You have to target specific things and overwhelm those things. Not just throw some money out there and hope it has the desired effect like was done with the Stimulus Package. You have to free up the consumer from the humongous debt burden and they will then spend and that creates jobs and jobs broaden the tax base and you can increase taxes a little because consumers have more discretionary money. It's so simple a child could figure it out but it's lost on the politicians who are busy raising ungodly amounts of money from special interests and corporation who they will then be beholden to and not give a friggin' doghnut about helping the middle class. The amount of wasted monies on election campaigns could also fund the same scenario. Add finning Wall Street for busting the economy and pluggin the off shore banking loopholes and increasing the tax on the wealthy , stopping ear marks and pork and you have money out the yang and can start balancing the budget and paying down the defecit. If Wall Street and large corporations can afford to pay out all those crazy bonuses and golden parachute deals they can definitely afford higher taxes. The money is there to do anything we wish it's just a matter of figuring out how to get at it.
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lodger16x
05:09 AM on 08/03/2010
Wingnuts are basically people of faith, not reason. Repubs for years have been saying that conviction (faith) is more important than reality. That explains the popularity of Rush and Beck, who lie, are afraid of true debate, and have zero academic credentials of any kind. For wingnuts, ignorance is bliss!
11:45 PM on 08/02/2010
We have so much debt that any further spending makes things worse not better. In fact - each dollar spent only results in 85 cents in the economy. Since that dollar is BORROWED we OWE $1.03 every time we spend a dollar but only get 85 cents of GDP out of it!

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?chart_type=line&width=800&height=480&preserve_ratio=true&s[1][id]=MULT

This next chart shows that we have so much debt interest, overhead and other liabilities that we are LOSING MONEY by spending money. We are actually making things worse EXPONENTIALLY.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pCDyiFUv9XU/S_HzX0bUJZI/AAAAAAAAJxA/UtOGAm5DPPI/s1600/Diminishing+Productivity+of+DEBT.jpg

THAT is how far you spend-a-holics have pushed things. We're ALREADY greek with a debt-to-gdp ratio over FOUR HUNDRED PERCENT including unfunded liabilities.

Rule number ONE of getting out of a hole is to STOP DIGGING. We need to CUT SPENDING NOW - not spending that creates growth - but FAT. We need to CUT OUT ALL THE FAT.
11:52 PM on 08/02/2010
And of course you were posting this stuff when W was spending like there was no tomorrow.
12:09 AM on 08/03/2010
Hate the Repubs. Don't assume you know how I feel about the right because it's not what you think!
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lodger16x
05:05 AM on 08/03/2010
Er, how come you budget hawk phonies never have a word to say about cutting our global military empire. Not one word! You'd rather give free health care to all of Iraq and Afganistan to sustain war efforts than even spend one penny trying to reform the inefficient, expensive American domestic system. You so funny!
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jjsardo
Proud liberal in a red state.
10:36 PM on 08/02/2010
The budget can easily be balanced. The means are there and we all know it.

The only real problem is the failure of government to honestly address the issues facing the country.

Social Security is operating on a sound basis. The fund now owns in excess of 2.5 trillion dollars in Treasury bonds-the safest investment in the world. SS can be strengthened by removing the cap on wages.

Single payer, Medicare for all will go along way toward solving the health insurance debacle this country is now facing.

Restoring common sense to the prescription drug program will save billions.

Reasonable reductions in the defense budget can save huge amounts of money without jeopardizing security.

A fair system of taxation will also contribute significantly to reducing the deficit.

Of course, none of this will ever happen. The rulers of this country will take the easy road: cut, cut, cut any and all programs that benefit the middle and lower classes.

Here is the reality that confronts our decaying society.

SS faces a very real threat. But it comes from a small group of influential people who want to welsh on the debt the U.S. Government owes the fund.

Powerful lobbies protect a decadent health insurance industry.

Other powerful groups protect the wealthy from having to pay their fair share of taxes.

Unless and until we find a leader with the courage to confront these issues honestly and fairly the middle class is facing a prolonged and painful demise.
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YoungProg2010
Student, New Yorker, & Proud Working Class Liberal
10:41 PM on 08/02/2010
Fanned and faved for your common sense.
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flyovermark
...Obamacare is tyranny...
10:44 PM on 08/02/2010
By "middle class" do you mean the SEIU? Because none of what you suggest is of any use to taxpayers.