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Robert Kuttner

Robert Kuttner

Posted: January 9, 2011 04:51 PM

As I have previously warned--and I hope I'm wrong--President Obama seems on the verge of needlessly cutting America's most valued social program and the one that best differentiates Republicans from Democrats. This is part of a vain effort to appease deficit hawks in his own party and on Wall Street, as well as Republicans who are utter hypocrites when it comes to deficits--increasing them as long as the purpose is tax cuts but then turning around and demanding program cuts in order to reduce the deficits they created.

All the choreography is in place for the president to embrace Social Security cuts in his upcoming State of the Union address.

Cutting Social Security is financially needless--the program is in sound shape for the next 27 years. It has nothing to do with the current deficit. It will be solvent indefinitely if we can get some wage growth going again. Failing that, we should raise the lid on income taxed, so that millionaires pay the same rate as regular people. For more detail, see ourfiscalsecurity.org.

It's politically idiotic for democrats to join this parade. To have Republicans demand cuts in Social Security at a time when they are also demanding tax cuts for the rich is a cue for Democrats to make clear which side they're on. Obama got in big trouble with seniors in the health care bill because they were worried that it would mean Medicare cuts. In 2010, Democrats lost the senior vote, big time. Now, Obama has a splendid opportunity to point out that it's Republicans who want to cut Social Security.

But look at this exchange from CNN Friday evening. Wolf Blitzer, interviewing Obama economic adviser Austan Goolsbee plays a clip of Republican Senator Lindsey Graham demanding Social Security cuts as the price of extension of the debt ceiling. Goolsbee is resolute on the need to extend the debt ceiling, but strongly suggests that Obama is amenable to a deal on Social Security cuts:


[BEGIN EXTRACT]

SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: I'd like to see a serious effort, bipartisan in nature, led by the White House where we look at extending the age of Social Security retirement. We all know we have to do that. And when it comes to means-testing benefits, that should be on the table.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLITZER: Extending the age of Social Security benefits and having means testing. Are you open to those two proposals?

GOOLSBEE: Well, Wolf, let me separate two things. And I really wish that Republicans in Congress could separate them.

The debt limit discussion is about the full faith and credit of the United States. We should not be -- nobody should be playing chicken with that or playing games with that.

We should have an honest discussion about the budget. The president is not against that. He knows we must deal with our long- run fiscal challenges. And when he releases his budget in the a few weeks, I think it is going to be clear that he takes that responsibility seriously, and he's not averse to making tough choices.

Let us have an honest and open discussion about the budget and what we should do, what cuts ought to be made, in what areas. Do not tie the discussion about the budget to a thing that is fundamentally about the trustworthiness of the U.S. fiscal system and the government, which is what the debate about the debt limit is.

BLITZER: And what about the issue of Social Security? Are you ready to discuss that?

GOOLSBEE: Well, the president formed the fiscal commission. He was the one who authorized it over the objections of some of the opponents, and that body put out a report which I think highlights how important the longer-run fiscal circumstances are. And the president has always said, let's not automatically rule everything out before we even begin.

Let's see what plans and various people put forward, and let's deal with that as adults. Let's not try to turn this into a game of chicken where we say, unless you agree to our own specific partisan policy moves, we're going to threaten to default the U.S. government. And I would say, I hope that everyone in Congress can avoid resorting to policies that make the deficit worse while, at the same time, discussing the need for responsibility.

BLITZER: Austan Goolsbee, thanks very much for joining us. Good luck.

[END EXTRACT]


Good luck indeed! The fiscal commission called for cutting Social Security. And when the president's economic adviser is asked directly about Social Security cuts and quotes his leader saying, "Let's not rule everything out," we're in big trouble.

What should a Democrat sound like on the subject of Social Security? It's not really hard. Here's Harry Reid, sparring with NBC's David Gregory on Meet the Press Sunday:


[BEGIN EXTRACT]

DAVID GREGORY: Social Security-- how does it have to change? What they put on the agenda is raising the retirement age, maybe means testing benefits. Is it time for Social Security to fundamentally change if you're gonna deal with the debt problem?

HARRY REID: One of the things that always troubles me is when we start talking about the debt, the first thing people do is run to Social Security. Social Security is a program that works. And it's going to be-- it's fully funded for the next forty years. Stop picking on Social Security. There're a lotta places--

DAVID GREGORY: Senator are you really saying --

HARRY REID: --where you can go to save money.

DAVID GREGORY:-- the arithmetic on Social Security works?

HARRY REID: I'm saying the arithmetic in Social Security works. I have no doubt it does.

DAVID GREGORY: It's not in crisis?

HARRY REID: No, it's not in crisis. This is-- this is-- this is something that's perpetuated by people who don't like government. Social Security is fine. Are there things we can do to improve Social Security? Of course.

DAVID GREGORY: Means testing. Raising the retirement age--do you agree with either of those?

HARRY REID: --I'm not going to go to with any of those backdoor methods- you know, to whack Social Security recipients. I'm not going to do that. We have a lot of things we can do with-- this debt. It's a problem. But one of the places where I'm not going to be part of picking on is Social Security.

[END EXTRACT]

What's so lovely about this exchange is that it demonstrates how the press is utterly marinated in the conventional wisdom of the deficit hawks, and how easily some straight talk cuts through it. I am not one of President Obama's economic or political advisers, but maybe he talks to Harry Reid.

Speaking of advisers, the latest two appointments do not exactly inspire confidence for progressives. Gene Sperling, who succeeds Larry Summers as head of the National Economic Council, is the better of the two. He has been an advocate of increased social investment and a defender of Social Security, though he was the aide who pushed through a temporary cut in the payroll tax as part of last month's tax cut deal. Sperling received nearly $900,000 for part time work with a Goldman Sachs foundation before returning to government.

The bigger disappointment is Bill Daley, who is touted as a business leader but is more accurately described as a Wall Street lobbyist. JP Morgan Chase hired Daley less for his banking acumen than for his political connection, and he has led Morgan's lobbying efforts during and after the TARP negotiations.

Daley criticized Obama--from the right--on the health reform bill and on the consumer financial protection bureau. When Daley's appointment was announced, among those who pronounced themselves pleased were Republican leader Sen. Mitch McConnell, Tom Donohue, who heads the US Chamber of Commerce, and the Wall Street Journal editorial page.

When your sworn enemies send you bouquets, something is very wrong. According to the Journal: "Bill Daley, we've come to praise you... Still, we've been wrong before. Whether we're wrong again rests less with the pragmatic Mr. Daley than with the man of the left who is now his boss."

The man of the left! But this propaganda game seems to get results. The more the right conjures up this mythical socialist Obama, the more he appoints conservatives. Let's see if Obama, this time, can live up to his billings and do as well as Harry Reid in standing up for Social Security.

Robert Kuttner is co-editor of The American Prospect and a senior fellow at Demos. His latest book is "A Presidency in Peril."

 
 
 
 
 
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01:59 PM on 01/14/2011
I worked hard for Obama and gave generously to his campaign, but my disappointment in him has been such that I decided to opt out of political activism. I'll leave it to younger people who are inspired, if such an animal exists in the D Party. But if Obama and/or Congressional democrats in any way whatsoever cut SS, I'll be out there working hard against them - third party, primary challengers, whatever there is. I simply will not tolerate my own party,the party of FDR, JFK and RFK, chipping away or tearing down the most successful government program that ever existed in this country, and a Democratic Party program to boot.
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Cleverboots
09:40 PM on 01/11/2011
Th bigger problem is Obama who is a Republican in spirit, helping his wealthy contributors to become even wealthier at the expense of the average American. Obama is neither a liberal, progressive nor a real Democrat. He really has fooled the American people but 2012 is not far off.
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02:43 PM on 01/11/2011
We the people who pray for this nation want to see this nation succeed....so the first stop keep in step with efforts toward perfection ,..which means politicians stop lairing to the nation...65 retirement age fine make room for the next generations was the purpose for that decision...to add more or delay retirement means the political nation does no have faith in the populace...they who support an age increase understands their position will not create jobs and will not advance this nation toward the first sentence in the constitution...it looks as if some republicans and some blue dog Democrats do not have faith in the populace and our business communities tohelp build up social security; these/those who support cuts in social security and removal have lose faith and are interested in disrupting this nations' and will be launging behind doors will this nation move towards misey; the benefits we the people earned and relied on will be taken away if fear is allowe to take over ignorance is the call word of the day ...
01:59 PM on 01/11/2011
People should know by now what Wall Street is, how it operates, and what it wants to do with others' money. After this recent financial crisis, they manifestly showed their colorful, criminal characters -- hoodwinking and defrauding the American public! This so-called Social Security privatization is no doubt a Wall Street scheme to get their dirty, grasping hands on your money. It's no different from the so-called "Tax Cut Is Good" mantra promoted by the Right Wingers. If Bush Jr. was successful with his Social Security Privatization crusade(great that he wasn't), you the public would have lost much, much more...thus much poorer. The stock market is utterly rigged, and most of you would not stand a chance, as many already sufferd. Consider Wall Street is a very bad 2-Words!
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12:30 PM on 01/11/2011
A simple, workable and fair solution advanced by drsnurse 10:48 AM on 1/10/2011:

"Worried about solvency of Social Security? Simple solution: completely remove the payroll cap and make all incomes subject to the SS tax. Fair and simple. Big problem is when the treasury bonds need to be cashed in for SS and all bond holders. Simple solution: decrease the military by 50%, end foreign military aid, tax all forms of income the same, and stop all business subsidies."

The problem is that the professional political class is in the pockets of their masters - the wealthy and corporate contributors. And, the out of touch Supreme Court that thinks that the unlimited financing by one small segment of the population is just fine does not help matters. When it comes to the “General Welfare”, you can be sure that it comes in second to the special interests.

Perhaps limiting the terms of legislators would help, but they are not going to cut themselves off from the gravy train voluntarily. How about citizen imposed term limits?

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martman1
retired business owner
10:32 AM on 01/11/2011
The total income of those earning over $106,000 in 2009 was $2.1Trillion. If these filers had paid 12.4% into Social Security it would represent $260 Billion extra Social Security receipts in 2009.

Even without this extra $260 Billion, 2009 Social Security revenue was $51 Billion more than the payments made. It would have been $311 Billion more if those earning above $106,000 had paid into the program.
06:34 PM on 01/11/2011
Even though Senator Reid pledges support for Social Security he did sign off on the tax deal that reduces income to Social Security by 2 per cent.
We need an ongoing educational effort to show the American people the real value of this self- funded retirement program. So far the govenment haters are winning with their mis-information.
09:56 AM on 01/11/2011
Simple---STOP THE DAMN WARS!!!
These too only make money for the rich,
while the poor do the fighting.
They want every penny they can rape from
American people....and now.....
onto Social Security funds...
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Soulsurfer
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09:26 AM on 01/11/2011
How is SS part of the debt problems??????? We all pay into it directly from our paychecks. This is more obfuscation from the elites, and if the president presides over cuts to this program, he'll unleash a backlash like never before. Try cutting corporate welfare subsidies and tax loopholes for the rich first, please.
09:55 AM on 01/11/2011
As of 2007 SS and Medicare faces 107 TRILLION DOLLARS of unfunded liablities. Money THAT DOES NOT EXIST except in the form of T-bill IOUs (all redeemable by the way by either borrowing more money or more taxes).

The money DOES NOT EXIST people!
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02:55 PM on 01/11/2011
The money existed when the government securities were purchased. Where has that money gone? Who was responsible for its safekeeping? Are we talking about a US default on its obligations? I think that the issue will soon be ripe for investigation and, where necessary, prosecutions and civil action by Social Security. We must learn what officials were telling the public about the safety of those purchases.

The government must make good on those obligations and, there should be no attempt to have those who were defrauded be defrauded again. Instead of gutless legislative action that always preys on the least privileged, the Congress should remove the payroll cap and make all incomes subject to the SS tax. Cut the military by 50%, end foreign military aid, action and occupations. And, if this is not enough, the government should nationalize the large national banks were there would be lots of money forthcoming for a long time.
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68Namvet
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05:35 PM on 01/11/2011
"As of 2007 SS and Medicare faces 107 TRILLION DOLLARS of unfunded liablities"

$107 trillion???????? So what you are saying is that as of 4 years ago - Social Security and Medicare owed more than $107 trillion than it had or would take in in revenues. But, according to the CBO, Social Security was $51 billion in the black last year. And according to you, the systems owe more than 7 times the annual gross domestic production of the entire country.

One of you two is WAAAAAAAAAY off.

Personally, I think it is you.
10:43 AM on 01/11/2011
You are absolutely right, of course.

Which doesn't necessarily translate into Obama having the guts to stand firm against cutting SSN benefits. Caving in on tax breaks for the rich went against everything he told us he would do, and against everything he has purported to embody and believe. If he caves on this, then he can forget my vote in 2012.
08:40 AM on 01/11/2011
Corporate money controls all.
martman1
retired business owner
08:25 AM on 01/11/2011
$ 51B - amount by which Soc Sec receipts exceeded payments in 2009
+ $260B - additional revenue if earners above $106,000 had payed into Soc Sec in 2009
= $311B - what 2009 surplus would have been if everyone contributed

Calculation: $2.1T (total income above $106,000) times 12.4% = $260B
11:29 AM on 01/11/2011
For all of those people that you want to ROB with incomes over 106k are you also willing to pay them more in benefits when they retire since they are putting more money into the system? Or are you not aware of the fact that someone making 106k contributes the exact same amount of FICA as someone make 10 MILLION dollars AND receives THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF SS benefits.
02:58 PM on 01/12/2011
It's amusing how you use the word ROB and 107 trillion dollars so easily........
Who are you to be sure those making $ 10 million dollars didn't ROB (steal) it from the rest of us.? Think Wall Street .
07:45 AM on 01/11/2011
Social Security has not contributed a dime to the national debt. Having to pay back the money borrowed from the s.s. trust fund to pay for bank bailouts, wars, and unfunded programs will. They dont want to pay it back, simple. Now your lawmakers are quietly working on changing the cola formula to give you less as inflation rises. Wall street stole your pensions overtly, now inflation, which is rearing its ugly head as we speak, will steal your retirement, kids college, and standard of living very quietly, a nickel and dime at a time. All to pay back the money borrowed to bail out millionaires and billionaiers that "legally" stole your money. Now, guess who makes the laws, then extrapolate that to the coming "debate" on the national debt. What do you think will get the axe? Social Security?, or subsidies to oil, banks, pharma, health ins co's. How about some REAL campaign finance and lobby reform. Just maybe, your "representatives" would actually start working for the good of the country instead of their bottom line
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07:15 AM on 01/11/2011
One more time.....To have Republicans demand cuts in Social Security at a time when they are also demanding tax cuts for the rich is a cue for Democrats to make clear which side they're on. Sounds familiar and it is getting old.

There are no longer two sides with different social political views. Only a progressive third party can provide that difference.
04:55 AM on 01/11/2011
I'm really tired of the retirement police and the Social Security dictators. Retirement should be a function of how much you paid into the fund, how much it earned, and the age you want to retire. The money paid into SS and pension funds belongs to the people who paid in not to the haters who want to destroy the funds. People who are tired of the market ripoffs should have the option of converting their 401K's into social security and drawing two SS checks when they retire.

If the Takings Clause of the 5th amendment applies to corporations, surley it applies to pension assets and social security. Would trial juries do for pension assets and social security what congress and the supreme court have done for corporations?
06:42 AM on 01/11/2011
I also think you should have the option of converting your SS to 401k. For someone like me I have calculated that if I was able to keep the 6.2% FICA along with my company match of 6.2% over the lifetime of my average 50k earnings and making a paltry 3% ROI then at age 65 I would be sitting on over $600k.

Do you think I will EVER get that kind of money back from SS? SS is a PONZI scheme pure and simple. Current contributors paying for current beneficeries all wrapped up in IOUs as the federal government takes the money and puts it into the general coffers for wasteful spending. May god help my kids and grand kids for what this government will be doing to them.
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AlbertT
07:20 AM on 01/11/2011
If we listened to you, we'd never know that Social Security has been the most successful government program ever for 75 years. You also demonstrate why we have to be vigilant, because Republicans never, ever give up on a bad idea.
09:49 AM on 01/11/2011
There are 53 million people drawing SS checks that average about $14,000 a year. (According to the Demos, EPI,CF deficit reduction plan, pg 4) That is $742 billion a year ($61.8 billion a month) most of it spent locally. If you and others could put your SS into the markets, half the 53 million would have lost their SS to the stock bubble, tech bubble or the housing bubble and would now be on welfare and you would be screaming your head off about lazy welfare recipients.
02:57 AM on 01/11/2011
If Obama seriously tries to make cuts in Social Security, which is popular, he will not win in 2012, even if he spends a billion dollars on his campaign. So if Obama does attack SS, Dems should should look for a new Dem candidate right away for the sake of self-preservation if not for the sake of justice to all working people.
08:45 AM on 01/11/2011
Fanned daikon: I totally agree. I have pretty much concluded Obama is a lost cause for progressives (Mr. Daley's appointment is just icing on his republican cake). Right now I am thinking Alan Grayson. A true progressive.
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11:35 PM on 01/10/2011
If you want your money just go to your lawyer and have him draw up the the legal government document to get every dime you paid into social security. You will get back every dime you paid in. BUT YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO OBTAIN ANY GOVERNMENT BENEFITS. You will have to pay full price for all your future retirement, medical, and any other government funded benefits. So if you want the little bit you put in GO GET IT, WHEN YOU RUN OUT OF MONEY DO NOT EXPECT ANY ASSISTANCE.
06:44 AM on 01/11/2011
What a foolish and ignorant statement Raymond Foret. You have not ONE clue as to what you are talking about.

For someone like me I have calculated that if I was able to keep the 6.2% FICA along with my company match of 6.2% over the lifetime of my average 50k earnings and making a paltry 3% ROI then at age 65 I would be sitting on over $600k.

Do you think I will EVER get that kind of money back from SS? SS is a PONZI scheme pure and simple. Current contributo­rs paying for current beneficeri­es all wrapped up in IOUs as the federal government takes the money and puts it into the general coffers for wasteful spending. May god help my kids and grand kids for what this government will be doing to them.
08:00 AM on 01/11/2011
Your short sightedness will probably be the deciding factor in undoing s.s. Social Security is not an investment, its a "social program", designed to protect naive people, like yourself, that have not yet had their retirement funds stolen by wall street bankers as too many have had in the last 20 years. Good luck with your "investments", you might be one of the lucky ones that doesnt get burned again, but those who have are thankful for social security. Dont be fooled, young people, wall street wants their greedy lttle paws on those trillions in the s.s. trust fund
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Soulsurfer
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09:30 AM on 01/11/2011
Of course, if the market tanks (remember 2008, 2002, 1989....), you won't have squat.