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Are Dreams an Extension of Physical Reality?

Posted: 09/16/2010 7:30 am

You spend a third of your life sleeping. What if your dreams are real? Perhaps our dismissal of dreams as "just dreams" is based on a misunderstanding of the nature of consciousness and physical reality.

"I am real" said Alice (in Wonderland). "If I wasn't real, I shouldn't be able to cry."


"I hope you don't suppose those are real tears?" Tweedledum interrupted in a tone of great contempt.

We take for granted how our mind puts everything together. Everything we experience is a whirl of information occurring in our heads. Biocentrism -- a new "theory of everything" -- tells us that space and time aren't the hard objects we think, but rather tools our mind uses to put everything together. They're the key to consciousness, and why in experiments with particles, space and time -- and indeed the properties of matter itself -- are relative to the observer. During both dreams and waking hours, your mind collapses probability waves to generate a physical reality, replete with a functioning body. You're able to think and experience sensations in a 3D world.

We dismiss dreams because they end when we wake up. However, the duration of the experience doesn't mean it has any less basis in physical reality. Certainly we don't think day-to-day life is less real because we fall asleep or die. It's true we don't remember events in our dreams as well as in waking hours, but the fact that Alzheimer's patients may have little memory of events doesn't mean their life is any less real. Or that individuals who take psychedelic drugs don't experience physical reality, even if the spatio-temporal events they experience are distorted or they don't remember all of the events when the drugs wear off (certainly, anyone they had sex with would confirm this).

We also dismiss dreams as unreal because they're associated with brain activity during sleep. But are our waking hours unreal because they're associated with the neural activity in our brain? Certainly, the bio-physical logic of consciousness -- whether during a dream or waking hours -- can always be traced backwards, whether to neurons or the Big Bang. But according to biocentrism, reality is a process that involves our consciousness.

In contrast to dreams, we assume the everyday world is just "out there" and that we play no role in its appearance. We think they're different. Yet experiments show just the opposite: day-to-day reality is no more objective or observer-independent than dreams. The most vivid illustration of this is the famous two-hole experiment. When you watch a particle go through the holes, it behaves like a bullet, passing through one hole or the other. But if no one observes the particle, it exhibits the behavior of a wave and can pass through both holes at the same time. This and other experiments tell us that unobserved particles exist only as waves of probability.

Critics claim this behavior is limited to the microscopic world. But this "two-world" view (that is, one set of physical laws for small objects, and another for the rest of the universe) has no basis in reason and is being challenged in labs around the world. Last year (Nature 459, 683, 2009), researchers showed that quantum behavior extends into the everyday realm. Pairs of vibrating ions were coaxed to entangle so their physical properties remained bound together when separated by large distances ("spooky action at a distance," as Einstein put it). "Such situations are not observed in nature," stated the authors. "This may be simply due to our inability to sufficiently isolate the system of interest from the surrounding environment -- a technical limitation." Other experiments with huge molecules called "Buckyballs" also show that quantum reality extends beyond the microscopic world. And in 2005, KHC03 crystals exhibited entanglement ridges one-half inch high, quantum behavior nudging into the ordinary world of human-scale objects.

Whether awake or dreaming, you're experiencing the same bio-physical process. True, they're qualitatively different realities, but if you're thinking and feeling, it's real. Thus, René Descartes' famous statement Cogito, ergo sum ("I think, therefore I am").

Biocentrism (BenBella Books) lays out the full scientific explanation of Lanza's theory of everything.

 
 
 

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03:51 PM on 09/23/2010
BTW, if we take ourselves down to the molecular level, all that we see is atoms jostling about. There is no suggestion of us.
03:39 PM on 09/23/2010
Is memory an implant? Why are we so sure about what reality is? Is time real? Quantum mechanics
suggests that matter is here nor there. When we dream, who is really dreaming? Are we the dream?
Why are we trapped in our routine. If emotions are chemical reactions in our brains, then what is real?
Lanza is a genious that asks the hard questions.
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Cathy M Rubin
11:47 PM on 09/22/2010
On Dreams and Reality: Goodbye Alice in Wonderland
I remember distinctly the moment I decided to include Jewel’s album, Goodbye Alice in Wonderland, in The Real Alice in Wonderland book. “It’s four in the afternoon” and I am leaving the beautiful Rosenbach Museum in Philadelphia. The museum is the best kept secret in Philadelphia. It houses one of the most significant Carrollian collections in the world. I had spent a long day reading Alice Liddell’s letters. I was deeply moved and inspired by those letters. They were written by an accomplished and worldly woman, not by the dreamy child Alice for whom Carroll had so lovingly hand crafted and hand illustrated his original Alice in Wonderland book. They were written by the Alice who had overcome harsh tragedies and survived to tell the tale. On the car radio, Jewel’s voice sang out the poetic lyrics of the album’s title song:

Fame is filled with spoiled children
They grow fat on fantasy
I guess that's why I'm leaving
I crave reality.
Read more at www.cmrubinworld.tumblr.com
08:53 PM on 09/21/2010
Great post! It reminds me of Inception. In studying meditation, consciousness, and spiritual awakening, I have learned to pay close attention to dreams.

From The Path of Awakening (2007) by James Wood:

“Let your dreams wake you up. Let them show you patterns hidden beneath the surface of your awareness or illuminate ongoing issues… Life is like a dream…The foundation of the dream is a lie of independent existence. Your dream is the one you are having now, a dream of life and death, parading in an endless cycle.”
04:40 AM on 09/19/2010
Predestination only works for those who never make mistakes,
but our dreams know our could be from our as we are.
04:11 AM on 09/19/2010
The mystical's irrelevant. William of Occam, a 14th century Dominican who also taught at Oxford, first formulated Occam's Razor as "Unknown entities cannot be introduced in order to explain other unknown entities". The universe dies, just like everything in it. Although it's lifetime might be in trillions of years, any finite number, no matter how large, when compared to the infinite is equal to zero (0!). Therefore, the universe's chances of being here now are zero and the ultimate question must then be why is there anything rather than nothing at all? Introducing God (an unknown entity) to explain the ultimate unknown (why anything exists) is then to introduce an unknown to explain an unknown and this has been a known no-no for seven hundred years. Erwin Schroedinger said, "Consciousness is a singular for which there is no plural"; Sir James Jeans, "The universe looks more like a great thought than a great machine" and John Wheeler, "It from bit" that is; reality derives from information and not the other way around. If one feels consciousness to be numinous and anthropomorphic enough, consciousness itself could be the valid and tangible, necessary and sufficient target for worship. All thought is prayer and all thoughts are answered; it must be so since each infinite will contain it, Perhaps, then, it's for the best that the Founders separated the Siamese twin of religion and politics at our country's birth just for the ease it gives to our contemplations.”
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06:32 PM on 09/19/2010
Very interesting about Occam. When the only avenues open to thinkers are the religious orders, then religion itself, oddly enough, can become a vehicle for enlightenment.

A finite number approaches zero in value only when compared to successively larger finite numbers, but it does not ever equal zero. If a finite number can be said to equal zero, then the concept of numbers loses meaning.
Consciousness is a function of the evolution of biological organisms (with the proviso that we may see technological creations achieve consciousness someday). There are as many consciousnesses in a room as there are higher organisms, so one can indeed speak of the plural of consciousness. Another way to look at it is in relation to the parent-child relationship. If there were only one consciousness, children would not need to be taught by adults.
To say that reality derives from information is similar to asserting that the universe exists only because we imagine it to exist. If that is so, then every time an individual dies, the entire universe ceases to exist, but if that is the case, then what is it that the other 7 billion souls are experiencing?

It is all well and fine to attempt to think about the universe, but one also needs to be open to the potential for learning and growth. To that end, there are books and courses available in logic, philosophy, and the various sciences.
01:07 PM on 09/25/2010
Just happened to notice this in my page, hoping its not too late to get back
http://scidiv.bellevuecollege.edu/math/infinity.html
Here's a quick riff on the arithmetic of infinity (set theory) which was finally put on a logical basis by Gregor Cantor (1840-1920). 1/∞ = 0 and 1 can be any finite number. That is: any finite number is always a subset of the infinite which cancels out leaving only the infinite. Zeno had a problem with this. ∞ was actually a Roman number = 1000 which was a very large number to them. ∞ was proposed as the symbol of infinity in the 17th century.
01:30 PM on 09/25/2010
I see that it's not too late for additional comments, tho word limitation still applies. Note that quantum mechanics postulates that the observable universe is a hologram (google: observable universe is a hologram) that is projected from the 2D boundry of information that contains it in the same way that all the information within a black hole has been shown as encoded on its border. Gravity wave detectors may soon confirm this theory by detecting the necessarily scaled up planck length as noise within the signal. I could add that confirmation of such background noise will thereby also confirm that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively and that, therefore, there is no death as life is just a dream and we are all the imagination of our selves, but actually that's Bill Hicks' joke, not mine.
04:11 AM on 09/19/2010
Anyone who has experienced lucid dreaming knows that the oddity of any particular dream is an invitation from our next-to-last frontier to recognize the dream state and thus to become aware of dreaming while within the dream. The eyes send rather crude images over twelve separate circuits to the cortex (SciAm, April 2008 or so) which then hallucinates reality so that we can interact with it. The lucid dream state invokes this hallucination, often to perfection, except that anomalies will occur as the external world is at that point not available as continuing input.

I like the how to at: http://www.lucidipedia.com/learning/index.php?section=introduction
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jazzpotato
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02:48 AM on 09/19/2010
I always dream in the first and third person, simultaneously. Sort of like watching a movie, and being one of it's characters all at once. It's interesting, but it's all generated in my head, and it only affects ME. If I could generate my own reality, I would re-imagine the author as being educated enough not to suggest that because of some mis-understanding of quantum theory (quantum entanglement?) that our thoughts or dreams can manipulate the world, or the Universe, or the future. Since I'm not able to generate my own reality, I must have made a mobius paragraph or something here. : )
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americles
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12:08 PM on 09/19/2010
If it's all generated in your head, who's generating it? By definition, you're generating your own reality.
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jazzpotato
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09:57 PM on 09/19/2010
Absolutely.
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ruchild
08:48 PM on 09/18/2010
One of my friends was stuck in a go-to loop from hades, I told her to pose the question to herself before bed and then forget it and dream about something pleasant, the answers she was seeking turned up in the dreams and then she re-examined some dreams previous to our conversation and boom, there it was, she has been having "weird" dreams that had made no sense to herself and then when she reframed her reference point, they made perfect sense. I think dreams and "reality" co-exist and it depends on how you frame the shot, as to how you understand and respond to it.
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06:33 PM on 09/19/2010
Makes sense to me. Your friend was lucky to have you helping her.
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gorash
09:41 PM on 09/17/2010
Psychologists have been analyzing dreams for a long time. I do think that they have meanings in their symbolism. I think that things that are hidden from the conscious mind or things that are buried in the subconscious mind often appear in our dreams. It seems that dreams are often a gateway into our subconscious mind...

"Dreams are a more accurate and honest representations of ourselves."
06:35 AM on 09/17/2010
Really enjoyed reading Biocentrism - interesting book!

Maybe there are multiple realities all generated by simple shifts of consciousness. Waking, dreaming, sleeping, the transcendental '4th state, or shamanic travelling in different worlds ... I am sure the list is endless. Isn't it all just an expression of pure awareness, manifesting in unlimited forms?

Look at what the shamans get up to, for example: http://blog.soul-therapy.com/2010/09/ayahuasca-vine-of-soul.html

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Soul-Therapy/278635488830

http://www.soul-therapy.com/
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03:07 AM on 09/17/2010
I agree. I don't think the question is so much "are dreams real?" Is our perception of waking life any more real and accurate than a dream? ... that's the question. And I do mean from a physiological standpoint. We perceive things a fraction of a second after we actually see them ... which is why optical illusions are possible. So nothing is actually a real time experience.

But to extrapolate that death is somehow similar to dreaming ... naw, I have to disagree. Dreams and perception are brain activity. After the brain dies, how could it dream?
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e paw
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03:08 AM on 09/18/2010
Posing it as a question of 'are dreams real" is just clearer way of stating the same idea.
Showing us that dreams follow the same criteria as waking nudges us to disect the notion of reality. But there's better proof than optical delay. Quantum mechanics will rock anyone's world.
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01:48 AM on 09/17/2010
I stopped working in the restaurant business many years ago but I still have dreams where I'm right back there. One thing wrong and that's I'm always behind and can't get anything caught up. C'mon, give me at least one easy shift.
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bmermaid
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12:48 PM on 09/18/2010
Yes, my worst dreams are being a waitress again at the restaurant where I worked as a teen-ager. Many people have told those are their worst dreams also.
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bmermaid
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12:56 AM on 09/17/2010
I think that our spirit must be able to do some kind of time & space travel while we sleep, because I have had so many dreams that fragments of which later happened- but sometimes months or years later.
For example, I once had a dream that I lived in a different town, and my life was completely different, I had a room-mate(I was married at that time). When I woke, I thought, what a funny dream- I would never do that. But a few years later I divorced, moved to the town that I dreamed about, and had the room-mate that I had dreamed about.
Also, I often dream that I can fly- levitate actually. Maybe in an alternate universe I can.
There is so much that we could learn from our dream-life if we could understand it.
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Anne Duchard
01:46 AM on 09/17/2010
Yes there is a lot we can learn from dreams. It was amazing to me that I was able to do a lot of my grieving work in my dreams after I lost a dear friend. Questions that I did not have a chance of asking while my friend was alive, I got to ask in my dreams and that really helped.
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06:14 AM on 09/17/2010
Once again: I have had many hundreds of "events", dreams if one must, about the future. The closest thing I can use to describe them would be the term memories, of the future. Sometimes they are of occurrences many decades into the future, and they have always come to pass, with the proviso that I am able to change the course of events if I deem it wise to do so.
I find it frustrating to read learned authors write that this sort of thing is impossible. It may not be reproducible in the laboratory, but that does not mean that it didn't or doesn't happen.
My personal theory is that animal life is evolving in a direction of greater and greater sensory capabilities, including sensing "the future", and manipulating objects in ways that scientific theory says it is impossible to do.
There is no reason for someone who has never experienced extreme sensory perception, or "the paranormal", to accept it, but there are an increasing number of people who are willing to testify to things that are very unusual.
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JayMonaco
09:16 AM on 09/17/2010
what makes you think the phenomena represents a new stage that we are evolving into? Perhaps all humans have been thus from time immemorial, and some of us are more aware of it than others.
11:31 PM on 09/16/2010
I've stopped analyzing my dreams. They are what they are. You can agonize reading whatever you want into them. I simply enjoy them. Mine often feature a combination of people and animated forest creatures, and real forest creatures. I find them whimsical.
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JayMonaco
09:17 AM on 09/17/2010
Awesome--I get animated forest creatures sometimes too. Rock on!