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Is There a God or Is There Nothingness? New Scientific Paradigm

Posted: 07/ 8/10 11:53 AM ET

The answer to such deep questions has traditionally been the province of religion, which excels at it. Every thinking person knows an insuperable mystery lies at the final square of the game board. So when we run out of explanations and causes that precede the previous cause, we say "God did it." In all directions, the current scientific paradigm leads to insoluble enigmas, to ideas that are ultimately irrational. But since World Wars I and II there has been an unprecedented burst of discovery. Although still unbalanced by this sudden growth, our worldview will soon catch up with the facts, and the old physico-chemical paradigm will be replaced with a new biologically-based one that can address some of the core questions asked in every religion.

Growing up during this period, I encountered the opposition to such new ways of thinking. As a boy, I lay awake at night and imagined my life as a scientist, peering at wonders through a microscope. But the reality was far from this dream. My school was separated into three classes of opportunity -- A, B and C. I was placed in C-class, a repository for those destined for manual, trade labor. My best friend was in A-class -- why him and not me? It was a challenge, especially after an exchange with his mother. "Do you think I could become a scientist?" I asked. "If I tried hard, could I be a doctor?" "Good gracious," she responded, explaining that she'd never known anyone in the C class to became a doctor, but that I'd make an excellent carpenter or a plumber.

The next day I decided to enter the science fair, which put me in direct competition with the A-class. My friend's parents took him to museums and created an impressive display for his rocks. My project -- animals -- included souvenirs from my various excursions: insects, feathers, and bird eggs. It won me second place behind my friend's project on rocks. Even in fifth grade I was convinced that life -- not material and rocks -− was the cornerstone of existence. It was a complete reversal of the natural scheme of things taught in our schoolbooks -- that is, atoms and physics at the base of the world, followed by chemistry, and then biology and life.

Science fairs were a way to show up those who labeled me for my family's circumstances. Once, after my sister was suspended, the principal told my mother that she wasn't fit to be a parent. By trying earnestly, I tried to improve my situation. I applied myself to an ambitious attempt to alter the genetic makeup of white chickens and make them black. My biology teacher said it was impossible; my chemistry teacher was blunter, saying, "Lanza, you're going to hell." Before the fair a friend predicted I'd win. "Ha-ha," the whole class laughed. When I won, the principal had to congratulate my mother in front of the whole school.

During my scientific career, I continued to encounter this kind of intolerance to new ideas. Can you clone a species using eggs from another? Can you generate stem cells without destroying embryos? Of course, scientists are no different from the rest of our species. We evolved in the forest roof to collect fruit and berries, so it shouldn't come as any surprise that this skill set hasn't served us well in understanding the nature of existence.

We open our eyes, and things appear to be magically hovering "out there" in some invisible matrix. In the nineteenth century, scientists called it the "ether," followed by the "spacetime" of Einstein, and then "string theory" with new dimensions blowing up in different realms. Indeed, unseen dimensions (up to a 100) are now envisioned everywhere, some curled up like soda straws at every point in space.

When science tries to resolve its conflicts by adding and subtracting dimensions to the Universe like houses on a Monopoly board, we need to examine our dogmas. We believe an external world exists independent of the perceiving subject. Philosophers and physicists from Plato to Hawking have debated this idea. Niels Bohr, the great Nobel physicist, said, "Not so." When we measure something, we're forcing an undetermined, undefined world to assume an experimental value. We're not "measuring" the world; we're creating it. At the legendary debates, Einstein presented ingenious ideas supporting the idea of a "real world out there," but Bohr shot them all down and gradually won over the physics community. But today most people still believe there's a real world out there.

This something-nothingness issue is ancient, and of course predates biocentrism, which explains why one view and not the other must be correct. Take the seemingly undeniable logic that your kitchen is always there, its contents assuming its familiar forms whether or not you're in it. At night you leave for the bedroom. Of course the kitchen is still there, unseen, all through the night. Right? But consider: the refrigerator, stove and everything else are composed of a shimmering swarm of matter/energy. Quantum theory, tells us not a single one of those particles actually exists in a definite place. Rather, like Bohr said, they merely exist as a range of probabilities that are unmanifest. In the presence of an observer -- that is, when you go back in to get a drink of water -− each one's wave function collapses and it assumes an actual position, a physical reality.

According to the "many-worlds" interpretation of quantum physics, there are an infinite number of universes -- known as the multiverse -- associated with each possible observation. Biocentrism extends this idea, suggesting that life has a non-linear dimensionality that encompasses the multiverse. Experiments show that measurements an observer makes can even influence events that have already happened in the past. Regardless of the choice you make, it'll be you (the observer) who experience the outcomes and histories that result.

Ideally, our concepts of nature and god should adapt to this evolving scientific knowledge. What happened before the Big Bang? Or if god made the world, then who made god? According to biocentrism, these are ultimately irrational questions, because space and time are simply tools of our understanding and don't exist in any absolute sense. Before and after are relative concepts tied to us, which includes the totality of existence in the multiverse. Imagine what might be possible, especially if we're able to recreate information systems to generate any consciousness-based reality fathomable.

"One thing I have learned in a long life," said Einstein, "[is] that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have." Science, like religion, must work with simple concepts the human mind can comprehend. But if biocentrism is right, nature has much bigger plans for us than just this or that life -- plans far beyond anything religion has ever projected to any god. And perhaps, if science is clever enough to see, it will realize that religion may not be too far off with its concrete imagery; and that relative to the supreme creator, we humans are much like the microorganisms we scrutinize under the microscope.

Biocentrism: How Life and Consciousness Are the Keys to Understanding the True Nature of the Universe (BenBella Books) lays out Lanza's theory of everything.

 
 
 
The answer to such deep questions has traditionally been the province of religion, which excels at it. Every thinking person knows an insuperable mystery lies at the final square of the game board. S...
The answer to such deep questions has traditionally been the province of religion, which excels at it. Every thinking person knows an insuperable mystery lies at the final square of the game board. S...
 
 
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08:01 PM on 08/30/2010
My not real computer at work emails me at home when it encounters a non-existent problem. So much for needing an observer.
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DuaneBidoux
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10:10 AM on 08/28/2010
Apparently reality is co-created between the observer and observed. I am fine with that interpretation.

I am not prepared to say that simply because the conceptual tools we have are limited and bound by that co-creation there does not in fact exist a reality not determined by biocentric theory--and it may well be a completely materialistic reality not in any need of any mysticism separate from the wishes of fearful mortals.
08:41 AM on 07/28/2010
"Ideally, our concepts of nature and god should adapt to this evolving scientific knowledge. What happened before the Big Bang? Or if god made the world, then who made god? According to biocentrism, these are ultimately irrational questions, because space and time are simply tools of our understanding and don't exist in any absolute sense."

Is what I am doing right or wrong? This is also an ultimately irrational question, because right and wrong are simply tools of our understanding, and don't exist in any absolute sense; well not in any scientific absolute sense. The only moral purpose in the reality of science is replication, and that's not a purpose in any absolute sense. There is no right and wrong that is not created in our experience by our brain. At least that would seem to be the verdict of evolutionary biology.

Is the central issue of the debate what started it all (which probably IS an irrational question since we don't even understand what time is and it's in all those formulas that make quantum events look crazy), or whether what absolutely exists means anything; other than for making better bombs and better indoor plumbing. Scientists are always trying to make science look spiritual, but the reality it demonstrates is bleak and deterministic and has no moral meaning. Even the pleasure of satisfying our unyielding curiosity is ultimately irrational and a tool of our understanding.

Our understanding is created by our brain and evolved through natural selection.
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03:57 AM on 07/26/2010
"Nature has bigger plans for us...than any god...." How much does this writer even know about religion? In Buddhism, for example, everything which has sentience has the potential to become the ultimate reality. Not "a god" but god-ness itself. (Very difficult to express these ideas in words.) The writer seems to see nature as God, having "plans" for us. From one point of view, nature's plan for us is to reproduce and die. Was it for this that the greatest minds and spirits lived?
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Chubbster
Partisanship is a mental illness
11:17 AM on 07/25/2010
Neither God nor Nothingness.
Pure potential.
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Dogma
A sense of humor is no laughing matter.
05:07 PM on 07/23/2010
Thank you, Dr Lanza. My favorite line from this post is,

'Even in fifth grade I was convinced that life -- not material and rocks − was the cornerstone of existence.'
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nanjemoy
first, check your satire-o-meter.
02:37 PM on 07/21/2010
http://discovermagazine.com/2002/aug/letters

John Wheeler responds: Andrei Linde is a great physicist and a deep thinker, but he and I do disagree on the role of consciousness in observation. The process whereby the macroscopic world reacts to a quantum event—the process that makes reality—can, in my view, be accomplished with inanimate matter. Following Niels Bohr, I like to call this process "registration" rather than observation (which too strongly suggests human involvement). Like David Schuller, I find it hard to draw a line between the conscious observer and the inanimate one.
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nanjemoy
first, check your satire-o-meter.
02:36 PM on 07/21/2010
The double-slit experiments are weird. But that doesn't dismiss all other observable phenomena. Biocentrism would say, biological observers' expectations trump all other observed information.

Also, define "Observer".

We are talking about machines that take measurements. Right?
11:42 PM on 07/19/2010
When it comes to events that go against the laws of nature the burden of proof that the events actually took is on the proponent.
12:24 AM on 07/19/2010
Thank you Dr. Lanza. It's a rough world out here as your commenters prove. I so enjoyed this column that I went back and read the rest. I'm reminded of David Peat's comment about how David Bohm had been looking for a language for quantum thought since English couldn't do it. He had a meeting with a group of Indigenous Scientists from Canada who introduced him to native languages. He said that he had found the language to express the quantum realities he was searching for. Your comments and the various comments show that the realities each of them creates between their ears are vastly different from each other. What a wonderful tapestry although I wouldn't want to be in a room with all of them together.
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03:05 PM on 07/18/2010
really mod,s really

your going to put that comment in pending !!


shame on you !!
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Chubbster
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11:18 AM on 07/25/2010
Well, you know how controversial it can get discussing God.
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09:30 PM on 07/16/2010
In our experience, something can not come from nothing; and life can not come from non-life. Beyond that, what difference does it make in the price of eggs if there is "nothingness" out there or there is God out there. The very definition of belief is: that which does not need to be proved. If there is a God, so be it. If there is no God, that's okay, too. It is beyond our ability to discern. We can only believe, one way or the other.
11:55 AM on 07/16/2010
nice piece. all i want is that we stop projecting ourselves onto 'god' and we look at the universe objectively without any of our projections and wishful thinking, stop getting boggled by idiotic and irrational rules and laws organized religions push on the society, and learn about ourselves through the world we live in, since if 'god' really created it all, it's the biggest clue to what 'god' really means! im not religious but i think having faith and purpose in life makes a big difference. i hope someday through science we get to learn the beginning of this whole shbang and i hope the real story and 'god' arent' anything like organized religions advocate.
01:30 PM on 07/22/2010
You should try studying secular theology. It's hard to find folks without bias towards a particular faith, but theology should be the study of the nature of divinity as such, while religion is the activity of worship, which assumes knowledge of God's nature.
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09:54 AM on 07/16/2010
If Jesus died for my sins, why isn't he dead?
08:00 PM on 07/16/2010
In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, "Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not here; He is Risen!" Luke 24:5,6.

Jesus conquered death. Without the resurrection there is no Christianity.
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pdferguson
Micro-bios? We don't need no stinkin' micro-bios!
01:27 PM on 07/17/2010
Exactly right. Christianity wouldn't survive without its rich fairy tales like the resurrection fantasy. As any novelist knows, you gotta have an awesome yet lovable leading character so that everyone knows who to root for...
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04:07 PM on 07/17/2010
Jesus died and was resurrected after 3 days.
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01:29 AM on 07/18/2010
He was such a copycat.
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Chubbster
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05:15 PM on 07/20/2010
Resurrected...funny word. Has anyone heard of anyone else being resurrected at any time, at any place?.... I didn't think so.
07:10 AM on 07/16/2010
Dr. Lanza, how does your drastic interpretation of indeterminacy account for the necessarily fixed positions of atoms in solids, which are bonded together?
Also, I'd like to know how you justify such a radical interpretation of Bohr. Bohr's notion of a miniscule percent chance of a sufficiently small particle existing at many possible distances from its center does not translate into the "quantum kitchen" you envision. At worst, the result is a kitchen that's a bit fuzzy, like a picture of Bigfoot.
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StealGeorgia
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02:42 PM on 07/24/2010
At worst, wouldn't it kind of blend into the background microwave radiation of the universe?