Religion and science look at reality differently. One day we found ourselves alive and aware and, around age two an ongoing memory track started recording selective inputs. In fact, years ago I carried out experiments with noted Harvard Psychologist B.F. Skinner (Science, 1981) that showed even animals are capable of "self-awareness." At some point in childhood most people ask themselves, "Hey! What IS this place?" It isn't enough for us to just be aware. We want to know why existence is the way it is.
As children we were bombarded by competing answers. Church says one thing, school another. Now as adults it's no surprise that if we discuss the nature of it all, we generally spout some combination of the two, depending on our individual inclination and mood.
We may struggle with attempts at merging science and religion, when, for instance, we watch the Christmas planetarium show "Star of Wonder," which purports to find logical explanations for the Star of Bethlehem. This is also seen in such bestselling books as The Tao of Physics and the Dancing Wu-Lei Masters, which purport to show that modern physics says the same thing as Buddhism.
However, such efforts are futile, even if they're popular. Physicists insist the Tao of Physics doesn't talk about the actual science, but an unrecognizable flower-child version. The annual planetarium Christmas presentations, for their part, dishonor both religion and astronomy, since the directors know that no object in the sky, whether comet or planet, can come to a screeching halt over Bethlehem. Bottom line: None of the explanations work, but such shows have been well-attended holiday traditions. Meanwhile, on the religious side, those who take the "star" story literally are being told that no miracle unfolded; it was merely a conjunction of planets that happened at just the right time.
Classic Science's Basic Take on the Cosmos:
Everything started 13.7 billion years ago when the entire universe materialized out of nothingness. All structures and events are created entirely randomly, given the four fundamental forces and a host of other parameters. Life began 3.9 billion years ago on Earth, and possibly elsewhere at unknown times. It too occurred by the random collisions of molecules, which in turn are made of combinations of the 92 natural elements. Consciousness or awareness arose out of life in a manner that remains mysterious.
Classic Science's Answers to Basic Questions:
How did the Big Bang happen? A: Unknown
What if anything existed before the Big Bang? A: Unknown
How did life arise? A: Unknown
What is the nature of consciousness? A: Unknown
Why are the forces & constants the way they are? A: Unknown
Is life experienced after one's body dies? A: Unknown
Okay, so what can science tell us? A lot. Libraries full of knowledge. All of it has to do with classifications and sub-classifications of all manner of objects, and how processes work such as how stars are born and how viruses replicate. In short, science seeks to discover the properties and processes within the cosmos. How to form metals into bridges, how to build an airplane, how to perform surgery -- science is peerless at things that make everyday life easier.
So those who ask science for ultimate answers, or to explain the fundamentals of existence, are looking in the wrong place -- like asking particle physics to evaluate art. Scientists don't admit this. However, some branches of science act as if science can indeed provide answers in the deepest bedrock areas of inquiry. We say, "Go ahead, give it a go." But thus far, it has had little success.
Religion's Take on the Cosmos:
There are many religions, and we can't get into their endless distinctions here. But two general schools exist, each with billions of adherents. They are so oceanically distinct in outlook and stated goals, they must be treated separately:
Western Religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam):
The Universe is entirely a creation of God, who stands apart from it. It had a distinct birth date and will have an end. Life was also created by God. The most critical purposes of life are twofold, to have faith in God, and to be obedient to God's rules such as the Ten Commandments, and other rules as outlined in the Bible or the Koran. God is omnipotent and omnipresent, the creator and sustainer of the universe. No mention is made of consciousness.
Western Religion's Answers to Basic Questions:
How did God arise? A: Unknown
Is God eternal? A: Yes
What came before the Big Bang? A: Not relevant (God created everything)
What is the nature of consciousness? A: Not discussed; unknown
Is life experienced after one's body dies? A: Yes
Eastern Religions (Buddhism and Hinduism):
All is fundamentally One. The true nature of reality is existence, consciousness and bliss. Appearance of individual separate forms is illusory. The One is eternal, perfect, and operates effortlessly. Time is illusory. Life is eternal; most sects believe this operates through reincarnation. The goal of life is to perceive cosmic truth by losing the false sense of illusion and separateness.
Eastern Religions' Answers to Basic Questions:
What was the Big Bang? A: Irrelevant. Time doesn't exist; the universe is eternal
What is the nature of consciousness? A: Unknowable through logic
Does life persist after the body dies? A: Yes
Biocentric Take on the Cosmos:
There's no separate physical universe outside of life and consciousness. Nothing is real that isn't perceived. There was never a time when an external, dumb, physical universe existed, or that life sprang randomly from it at a later date. Space and time exist only as constructs of the mind. Experiments in which the observer influences the outcome are easily explainable by the interrelatedness of consciousness and the physical universe. Neither nature nor mind are unreal, both are correlative. No position is taken regarding God.
Biocentrism's Answers to Basic Questions:
What created the Big Bang? A: No 'dead' universe ever existed outside of mind ("Nothingness" is a meaningless concept)
Which came first, rocks or life? A: Time is a form of animal intuition
What IS this universe? A: An active life-based process
This is reflected in the seven principles of biocentrism:
1st Principle: What we perceive as reality is a process that involves our consciousness.
2nd Principle: Our external and internal perceptions are inextricably intertwined. They are different sides of the same coin and can't be divorced from one another.
3rd Principle: The behavior of matter is inextricably linked to the presence of an observer.
4th Principle: Without consciousness, "matter" dwells in an undetermined state of probability.
5th Principle: The structure of the universe is explainable only through biocentrism. It's fine-tuned for life; life creates the universe, not the other way around.
6th Principle: Time doesn't have a real existence outside of animal intuition.
7th Principle: Space, like time, isn't an object or thing that has an independent reality.
Looking back over the various world views, it's clear that biocentrism, classic science and religions have distinctly different answers to the big questions. On the other hand, quantum physics and biocentrism have similarities to some of the tenets of Eastern religions as well. Both science and religion appear to be honing in on a deeper reality, one totally ignored by most people until now.
Co-authored with Bob Berman
Adapted from Biocentrism. You can learn more at robertlanzabiocentrism.com
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4th Principle: Without consciousness, "matter" dwells in an undetermined state of probability.
Which observer? How is it that we all seem to see the same thing--an airplane for example? Or am I only imagining that I am on an airplane with other people--it is all in my perceptive mind? If so, why am I writing this and how do you-if you actually exist outside of my perception, know what I have written?--How do we share symbols?
Time is a concept, constructed by us to help define our surroundings. Matter does deterioriate, according to breakdown schedules--half life etc, but that is not time--it is only the metric we use to describe change. A point of reference is all it is. The universe is infinite--it may change as matter shapes and forms and reforms and decays, but it is always present. And everywhere--no limits, no edges. Beyond our perception.
If I am not conscious of an advertisement, does that mean the images and message do not have form and do not exist? If so, how do others see them? How do we all see the same thing?
For instance the writer even said that Biocentrism has similarities to Eastern religions. These religions in turn have similarities with other world religions.
there is so much research and literature on this subject, try reading some
Is this compartmentalizing like tour creation of "time" and "space"? Something small enough for our small minds to grasp? We seem to be such fearful little beings, wanting so much to control each other and each others' resources through silly constructs like politics, scientific progress, medicine and religion. We have no basic comfort or faith. If we had faith we would not need to grasp control, create a manageable reality, or make up reasons for being.
I think the big question is not "What happened before the Big Bang?" but "Why do we feel compelled to ask these questions?" Why do we feel the need to hold small bits of reality in a death grip by defining them with our "science"? Is it because we know there is no independent reality and that all is created in our consciousness?
Olympia Dukakis had it right in 'Moonstruck', even though the context is different. Why do we feel the need to hold small bits of reality in a death grip, why do we ask these questions, etc, etc. It is because man fears death! If we were immortal, none of these questions would even be asked.
if you think the laws of physics are dependent on your consciousness then you'd have to show me all the instances where cars floated up because your consciousness made it happen
we are compleed to ask these questions because we are human and are curious, well some of us are....so then you ask....why are we curious?....because curiousity is one of the forces natural selection uses to increase variety from randomness
There are many metaphorical parallels between modern cosmology and the Hindu theory of 'Shrishti'. The 'Anda' itself resembles the hypothetical energy point from which the Big Bang and hence the Universe emerged. The true intonation of Om is very long and drawn out, it is described as an all pervading sound. Its parallel is the cosmic background radiation, currently at a temperature level of 2.725 kelvins, which pervades the Universe.
Even string theory finds a place in the Hindu texts. The first thing that ever was and will be is 'Shabda' or sound. This energy is produced by vibrations in energy produced by the powers of the Trinity (Lord Brahma, Lord Vishnu and Lord Shiva). Although at a very high level, this resembles the multidimensional vibrations of the infinitesimal strings which are said to be the basis of all creation.
I'll stick with real science.
Maybe it seems that way to you. To me it seems like we've got a long, long, long, long way to go before we can say we've explored the universe sufficiently to rule out the possibility of life elsewhere. If there's a civilization just a few light-years away currently making a ruckus comparable in size to ours, we wouldn't necessarily have noticed it yet. Our instruments of observation are not keen enough yet for that. And a few light years, that's just beginning to get a toe wet in the ocean of the universe.
Seems to me you're vastly overrating both our importance in the scheme of the universe and our powers of observation.
The big question is: Where does progress come from? "Why is it not possible for humanity to progress beyond the tyrannies of militarism, terrorism, war, social injustice, chauvinism, destructive environmental exploitation and the political, economic and cultural hegemony that attempts to dominate every generation in it time."
As a species, a firm understanding of sustainable values continue to elude humanity and all institutional forms of knowledge including both science and religion. They are both a part of the problem. Just how big a part remains to be seen! http://www.energon.org.uk
Progress is a term invented by humans. It is entirely subjective. As for the answer to your question, eventually (perhaps hundreds of years from now), the study of human beings will eventually lead us to the realization we are driven by forces which tend to trip us up. It's nothing personal, it's just our biology - which dictates our human nature.
How do you know that these answers are true?
eg Is God eternal? - Yes
How do you, personally, know this?
How do you know the truth of these answers?
For instance, how do you, personally, know that life is experienced after one's body dies?
Planets and Turtles. Gotta love it. ;>)
Science, instructive though it may be, has merely put back the problem of origins by a step. The extent of the dilemma is exemplified in an apocryphal story told by Carl Sagan: A Westerner asks an Oriental philosopher to describe the nature of the world:
"It is a great ball resting on the flat back of the world turtle."
"Ah yes, but what does the world turtle stand on?"
"On the back of a still larger turtle."
"Yes, but what does it stand on?"
"A very perceptive question. But it's no use, mister; it's turtles all the way down."
How about you now have a go at the original question:-
How do you, personally, know that life is experienced after one's body dies?”