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Robert Naiman

Robert Naiman

Posted: June 22, 2008 10:20 PM

Cheneyista Eurocrats Attack Obama -- Will They Get Away With It?


Remember when the right-wing Canadian government tried to interfere in the U.S. presidential election by leaking an internal memo claiming that an Obama advisor had assured them that Obama's criticisms of NAFTA were just for show? It was a big deal in Canada -- a political scandal. The parliamentary opposition took the government to task for its interference, and the government had to apologize.

Now unnamed European bureaucrats are trying to do the same thing that outraged Canada's opposition. The Washington Post reported Sunday that "Europe Fears Obama Might Undercut Progress With Iran."

Nice headline, eh? Did they do a poll to find out what "Europe" thinks? No, the Post talked to "European officials" who are "are increasingly concerned that Sen. Barack Obama's campaign pledge to begin direct talks with Iran on its nuclear program without preconditions could potentially rupture U.S. relations with key European allies early in a potential Obama administration."

Who are these brave European bureaucrats, so eager for confrontation with Iran, so deeply invested in the shibboleth that there can be no enrichment of uranium on Iranian soil that is at the heart of the current impasse? They declined to identify themselves. The Post says that the European officials:

spoke on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to be seen as interfering with U.S. politics

Have you ever noticed that when it is reported that "unnamed officials" refuse to be identified because they didn't want to appear to be doing X, it's usually because X is exactly what they are doing, and they don't want to be held accountable for it? Isn't the Washington Post telling us what's the real motivation of the "European officials" -- and, quite likely, their Cheney faction instigators in the Bush Administration -- in pitching this story to the Post?

Consider the logic of that sentence. Either the European officials are interfering in the U.S. presidential election or they aren't. The act is the same, regardless of whether they are named or not. So, what the sentence is really saying is:

spoke on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to be held accountable for interfering with U.S. politics

I hope that opposition parliamentarians in the UK, France, Germany and the European Parliament will take to the floor and pound the podium. This is outrageous interference. The same European lackeys who enabled Bush and Cheney when they invaded Iraq in flagrant violation of international law are now enabling Bush and Cheney in working to undermine the prospects of a truly negotiated solution of the standoff with Iran. Now, at long last, we're having a real fight in the United States about whether the U.S. could engage in real diplomacy. Unnamed Cheneyista Eurocrats should butt out.

To inspire our European friends who support real diplomacy, here's what the Canadian opposition had to say about NAFTAmemogate, and how the Canadian government was forced to respond, as it was reported at the time:

[fighting] erupted in Parliament as [Prime Minister] Harper fended off allegations that he was interfering in the U.S. elections and trying to undermine Mr. Obama's campaign... it was Canada's leading critic of Nafta, New Democratic Party leader Jack Layton, who raised an ABC News report that identified Mr. Harper's chief of staff, Ian Brodie, as the source of the leak.

"Canadians have become increasingly alarmed at reports that the prime minister's office has been interfering in the Democratic primaries with false accusations, trying to silence Barack Obama who simply wants to amend the Nafta," Mr. Layton told Parliament before demanding that Mr. Harper fire Mr. Brodie, "the source of the interference."


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"I can only surmise that Mr. Harper wants to silence those in the U.S. Democratic race who are trying to raise issues about Nafta and, in doing so, help his Republican friends through a happy coincidence," Mr. Layton said. "Canadians would be very concerned if there were any similar attempts by Americans to influence a Canadian election."

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Mr. Harper said the Canadian embassy in Washington "regretted the fact that information has come out that would imply that Senator Obama has been saying different things in public than in private. The government of Canada does not condone this and certainly regrets any implication."

It would be a very healthy thing for U.S.-European relations if those "unnamed European officials" were identified and their governments would express regret for their remarks. And it would help prevent the prospect of real diplomacy from being derailed.

 
 
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11:52 AM on 06/23/2008
What constitutes a European "official"? A third under-secretary to Belgium's Ministry of Agriculture? The assistant postmaster of Lichtenstein? The receptionist for Monaco's Office of Tourism? I'm sure they're all wonderful folks and they certainly have the right to their opinions, but actual European officials, like heads of state or significant political leaders usually have no qualms about speaking directly to the press and on the record when there is something of importance to say. The likelihood with this "report" is that, as in the Canadian incident, the unidentified "officials" are essentially low-level apparatchiks spreading rumors on the orders of their bosses who in turn are doing the bidding of Dick Cheney and Karl Rove. Another slime-ball publicity stunt which is one of Rove's specialties.

But here we have a major US news outlet (Washington Post) publishing rumor or nonsense as if it were a meaningful, newsworthy event. It looks like the execs at WashPo are once again catering to the Cheney-Rove regime either for big bucks under the table or to protect themselves from some unnamed consequence which is threatened if they defy the Decider's owners. There are major carrots and seriously threatening sticks being used to drive the jackasses of corporate media down the road toward the conquest of Iran.
11:05 AM on 06/23/2008
What Europeans may be undercutting Obama's Iran issue? Maybe those who don't want to see an Islamofascist state with the bomb.
12:12 PM on 06/23/2008
But it's OK for a Judeofascist state to have the bomb? The bombs of the "good guys" are somehow safer or cleaner than the bombs of the "bad guys"? What makes Israel the "good guys"? Is it because they only brutalize and oppress people you don't understand or care about?

There is already a nominally Islamic state with nuclear weapons. The world has managed to survive and carry on nonetheless. People who are making such a hue and cry about Iran's nuclear projects are doing so to instigate and "justify" the planned attack on Iran to steal THEIR oil and unleash the next round of killing.
12:36 PM on 06/23/2008
The words Islamo and fascist do not go together. Its like putting conservative and liberal together. They move in opposite directions. Fascists are all about corporate rule (like Bush). Islamist favor "church" rule. There is a big difference. Apparently it is lost on citizens with a corporate cable news mentality.
10:54 AM on 06/23/2008
Reader's advisory:
If it appears in the Washington Post or NY Times - it is a neocon plant.
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10:38 AM on 06/23/2008
Who knows where the NYT found these "europeans"? It cannot have been easy. There is no nation in western Europe whose citizens would not vote overwhelmingly for Obama, if they had a vote.

SImilarly, there is no nation in western Europe in which Dick Cheney will be safe to travel once he leaves office. Wherever he goes, he can expect that folks eager to prosecute him for war crimes will be mere steps behind him.
11:01 AM on 06/23/2008
It was the Washington Post (this time). Not that it really matters since they all basically parrot each other anyway.

I wonder when how soon the NYT will run a story with the opening "The Washinton Post reported this week, and blahdeblahdeblah."
07:33 AM on 06/23/2008
Liberal hypocrisy is truly breathtaking. All we have heard for 5 years from them is "what Europe thinks of us" and how we have "alienated our allies". Right up until they question the messiah Obama. Now they are meddling. Laughable.............
08:48 AM on 06/23/2008
readytsf needs to read the article. This is about journalistic credibility, not politics. Non-journalists are held to a standard for creating entries on Wikipedia. They must site original sources. Corporate media would do well to attempt to emulate non-journalists. Thanks for reminding us just how weak those who support the neocons really are. You are a neocon supporter, right?
09:52 AM on 06/23/2008
Oh, I see where the journalism is being questioned, but it is not the thrust of the article. The premise, stated in the TITLE, is Europeans attacking Obama. As to who I support, I support America. I know that's a kooky concept on this site, but be reminded that it's people like me who preserve the right of people like you to sip coffee and bemoan the war on terror. Instead of fighting it............
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06:56 AM on 06/23/2008
"European Officials" means Dick Cheney in a fake English accent.

I especially like the line about "undermining progress in Iran". What progress? It seems like it's spiriling out of control.

Or is that the actual goal?
08:56 AM on 06/23/2008
"Progress with Iran" in this case most likely means progress toward gaining allies to back them when they bomb Iran. And they'll do it just because they think Americans will more likely vote for Republicans than Democrats if there's enough animosity in the world towards us.

There's the GOP's real brand: "FEAR us."
11:08 AM on 06/23/2008
Yes. I would say, going by past experience in Iraq, that certain neocon elements actually fear a diplomatic settlement.

They want to bomb, bomb, bomb. Everything else, is 'off the table.'
05:34 AM on 06/23/2008
DON'T WORRY, BE HAPPY! OBAMA WILL MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD.

Obama is rightly seen by European and UN diplomats as a naive foreign policy lightweight with quixotic expectations of diplomatic success; a success that confounds 28 years of failure due to a vicious, murdering jihadist regime with a nonnegotiable covenant with God irreversibly committed to building the bomb, advancing their revolution and making Islam powerful again. Moreover, to confuse things even more Obama contradicting his previous commitment to diplomacy without preconditions said in his AIPAC speech that there would be no negotiations with Tehran unless he knew before hand that America's interests would be advanced. Obama is not a transparent politician offering anything that can be identified as a coherent Obama Doctrine on foreign policy. It would appear from his numerous contradictory statements on Iraq, Iran, Israel, the Global War on Terror and security issues that Obama doesn't have a clue on what to do.

The Obama campaign is not a movement of ideas like the Reagan campaign of 28 years ago. It is mentally vacuous, a campaign of charisma, emotion and charm, nothing more. Why worry, be happy! Barack will heal your soul and make you feel good all over. Don't think, just believe. The more blind you are the better.
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08:09 AM on 06/23/2008
If he's elected, we'll survive. If we can survive EIGHT long years of Bush, we can survive Obama. He'll be a one term wonder. The sad thing is that a failed or incompetent presidency will just hand the country back over to the Republicans. Just get yourself a bumper sticker that says "Don't Blame Me. I Didn't Vote for Him," and bite your tongue when you feel like saying, "I told you so."
10:09 AM on 06/23/2008
I don't fear an Obama presidency; we will survive it at great cost to our national security and interests in the Middle East.
08:57 AM on 06/23/2008
What are your sources backing the statement that "European and UN diplomats" see Obama as naive and a policy lightweight as you claim? Put up or shut up.
10:07 AM on 06/23/2008
My sources are 28 years of fruitless diplomacy with Iran where it has failed to make a single concession on anything. Because negotiations without preconditions are certain to end in failure no one has been stupid enough to try it. That is why I say that the EU and the UN look with contempt at Obama's proposal. If he is serious about it then he is a fool. If not then he is a disembling liar. My guess is that he doesn't know what to do. His goal is to get elected at all costs then figure out what to do afterwards. This shows how unprepared he is for the office.
05:19 AM on 06/23/2008
Um, bearing in mind that this story is in the Washington Post, has anybody considered that the 'anonymous European officials' are either a) a couple of lads who work in the tearoom in Brussels, or b) completely fictional characters?

I think I'll wait until a proper newspaper reports this story before I take it too seriously.

As for interfering in US politics, I seem to recall (just as one example) huge behind-the-scenes support for the British Conservatives from the US Republicans during the 80s and early 90s. This stuff happens all the time...
05:03 AM on 06/23/2008
If anyone doubts how idiotic this can get, I suggest watching this brief CBC broadcast. Second-guess your media every single day, and especially second guess people on this board who are trying to push an agenda based on lies and fabrication.

http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/vsu/wmv-hi/macdonald-obama-memo080303.wmv
02:48 AM on 06/23/2008
A visitor from Mars could easily pick out the civilized nations. They have the best implements of war.
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01:44 AM on 06/23/2008
Ian Brodie, the Canadian Primie Minister's chief buddy and fixer, was "cleared" in the investigation of the circumstances of the leak in question, but resigned his position on the same day the report was released, leaving no one confused about his actual 'innocence'.
01:49 AM on 06/23/2008
Uh.. Who cares? Who cares WHY it was leaked?

... the simple fact is THE MEMO WAS TRUE!
05:01 AM on 06/23/2008
Except, it wasn't. It was actually Hillary Clinton's supporter who implied that the public position was mere posturing. It was in fact said so in front of a room full of reporters before the story was changed and a cause of alarm that created an elaborate expose series on the CBC.

Now, while Goolsbee DID talk to the Canadians, the notes the Canadians took were true statements interspersed with subjective paraphrasing that completely missed the point of what Goolsbee was saying.

Not that it matters. It's now myth and urban legend, which means it will spread regardless of how many Canadian reporters fought the lie simply because the American MSM is just plain stupid.
01:52 AM on 06/23/2008
Let's try another example...

The Brit who leaked the memo saying Bush was set on invading Iraq and "the intelligence was being fixed around the policy."

That leaker was clearly trying to interfere with American politics.

Was he a Hero or a Villain?
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04:52 AM on 06/23/2008
Depends if they are on the side of peace or more war, wouldn't you say?
08:22 AM on 06/23/2008
What need was there to fix intellience around policy when 15 of 16 US intelliegnce agencies (NIE), supported by the world intell community and the UN, said that Saddam was a menace both for his possession of WMD and massive funding, training and arming of anti-Western terror groups (al Qaida included)? The only villian in this story was the intransigent fanatical bloodthirsty Saddam Hussein who refused to become a civilized human being, a president to his people and a good world citizen.
01:27 AM on 06/23/2008
Maybe we need MORE foreign officials telling us the truth about American politicians-behind-the-scenes.
01:24 AM on 06/23/2008
""Remember when the right-wing Canadian government tried to interfere in the U.S. presidential election by leaking an internal memo claiming that an Obama advisor had assured them that Obama's criticisms of NAFTA were just for show?""

Yes, I remember. The memo was true and Obama lied about it.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/18/magazines/fortune/easton_obama.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2008061810
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04:55 AM on 06/23/2008
Actaully what I remember is that it was a CLINTON official who did it and it was falsely attributed to Obama.
06:41 AM on 06/23/2008
You remember wrong. Gollsbee has ADMITTED to the meeting - he just claims he was "misquoted." He was recorded as giving assurances that all the hot air Obama was spouting in the campaign was just overheated rhetoric.

"On Feb. 8, Goolsbee met with the Canadian consul general in Chicago and offered assurances that Obama's rhetoric was "more reflective of political maneuvering than policy," according to a Canadian memo summarizing the meeting that was obtained by Fortune. "In fact," the Canadian memo said, Goolsbee "mentioned that going forward the Obama camp was going to be careful to send the appropriate message without coming off as too protectionist.""


This is YOUR GUY - Senator BARACK OBAMA himself - being quoted in Fortune Magazine:

""Sometimes during campaigns the rhetoric gets overheated and amplified," he (Obama) conceded, after I reminded him that he had called NAFTA "devastating" and "a big mistake," despite nonpartisan studies concluding that the trade zone has had a mild, positive effect on the U.S. economy.

Does that mean his rhetoric was overheated and amplified? "Politicians are always guilty of that, and I don't exempt myself," he (Obama) answered."



By his own words what was said about Goolsbee in the Canadian memo was exactly right.

"Nevertheless, Obama's tone stands in marked contrast to his primary campaign's anti-NAFTA fusillades."
08:31 AM on 06/23/2008
Just so everybody is clear here CBC is a TV and Radio media outlet owned and run by the Canadian Govt.. While they do good stories sometimes, I rather question their independence in reporting.

To quote a large proportion of Canadians "Harper is BushLite" Need I say more!

Quoting CNN articles seems a little misguided. They seem to be the "Most trusted name in Propaganda" reporting on domestic issues let alone international.

And how is this any different from the US supporting and causing regime change in other countries? I do not hear much outrage over that!
11:16 PM on 06/22/2008
Somebody said, yada, yada. Just like in elementary school. And nobody has said anything. I'm sure the europeans are happy to be talking with someone who appears to have alittle more common sense. And I never heard him say, no preconditions. I heard him say after diplomatic steps. Hey but who are these nut jobs to think about the truth.
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01:39 AM on 06/23/2008
Word from Europe that I get, friends and travelers, is that Obama is being eagerly awaited.
"He sounds like an adult" is a common comment.
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04:56 AM on 06/23/2008
there was an article I thought in Huffpost, mabye in NYT like yesterday saying the European PEOPLE can't wait for Obama.

As opposed to some wa rmon gering government- I can't imagine which.