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Robert Naiman

Robert Naiman

Posted: November 5, 2010 03:09 PM

Everybody knows that the recent election was all about the economy, right?

Nobody would claim that American voters just gave Republicans a mandate for more war, would they?

Here we go:

Republican Senator John McCain said on Tuesday in the wake of big Republican victories in Congress that he hopes President Barack Obama will take a fresh look at U.S. war policy in Afghanistan. McCain won re-election to his Arizona Senate seat by a large margin, ensuring he will retain have a strong voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee as its ranking Republican member.

In an interview, McCain told Reuters he was looking forward to a December review the Obama administration is preparing to give an update on the U.S. troop increase Obama ordered a year ago to try to repulse a strengthened Taliban.

McCain, who is expected to visit Afghanistan soon, said he would like to see a change in Obama's decision to begin withdrawing some U.S. troops from Afghanistan next August.

The world would be a better place if one could just ignore things like this. But as Reuters points out, McCain is ranking member on Senate Armed Services, in addition to being the 2008 Republican presidential nominee. Two axioms of politics in America are: 1) you can't ignore a dangerous political claim, just because it's nonsensical, and 2) you can't wait for a nonsensical and dangerous political claim to gain momentum before moving to quash it, because it's like a highly infectious disease: you have to stamp it out immediately before it takes root in the population.

So, donning my Captain Obvious superhero costume, allow me to try to bring some evidence to bear on Senator McCain's apparent claim that the recent election was a mandate to extend the presence of US troops in Afghanistan.

We all know that Afghanistan was not a major issue in the election, because the press told us so. But maybe you could argue that voters tended to support pro-war candidates, even if the war was not a prominent issue.

On July 1, there was a key indicator vote in the House of Representatives on the war in Afghanistan, when 162 Representatives voted in favor of the McGovern-Obey-Jones amendment requiring the President to establish a timetable for the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan. The amendment would have required not just a timetable to begin the withdrawal of troops, which the President has announced, but a timetable to complete the withdrawal of troops, which the President has not announced. Thus, the amendment was significantly sharper than the policy that McCain opposes; some Democrats who support the President's timetable to begin withdrawing troops voted no on the McGovern amendment. So, if any voters wanted to send Washington a message that they want more war, they definitely should have had it in for anyone who voted for the McGovern Amendment.

60% of the House Democratic caucus voted for the McGovern amendment; 40% of House Democrats voted no. So, if the recent election was a mandate for war, it should have punished the McGovern Democrats more than the anti-McGovern Democrats.

The numbers do not bear this out.

Of the 256 Democratic seats in the last House, 119 were represented by Democratic incumbents who ran for re-election and were judged to have "competitive" races (i.e., not "safe"); 137 were not.

Of these 119 "vulnerable" Democratic incumbents running for re-election, 51 were defeated.

Among the 119 vulnerable Democratic incumbents, 53 voted for the McGovern amendment and 66 voted against it. The remaining 100 Democrats who voted for the McGovern amendment were from the 137 remainder: not Democratic incumbents seeking reelection judged to have competitive races.

Among the 53 vulnerable Democratic incumbents seeking re-election who voted for the McGovern Amendment, 12 were defeated and 41 were re-elected.

Among the remaining 66 vulnerable Democratic incumbents seeking re-election who voted against the McGovern Amendment, 39 were defeated and 27 were re-elected.

Among the 68 vulnerable Democratic incumbents who were re-elected, 41 voted for the McGovern amendment and 27 did not.

Among the 51 vulnerable Democratic incumbents who were defeated, 12 voted for the McGovern amendment and 39 did not.

So, if you were a vulnerable Democratic incumbent running for re-election who voted in favor of the McGovern Amendment, your odds of being re-elected were 77%. If you were a vulnerable Democratic incumbent running for re-election who voted against the McGovern Amendment, your odds of being re-elected were 41%

Now, there is a obviously a positive correlation between how Democratic your district is and supporting the McGovern amendment; and a negative correlation between how Democratic your district is and whether or not you are defeated by a Republican. A reasonable guess is that the fact that McGovern Democrats were more likely to be re-elected mostly reflects the fact that McGovern Democrats, on average, represent more Democratic districts.

This is a testable proposition.

If you run a simple linear regression of election outcome versus McGovern vote for the 119 vulnerable Democratic incumbents, you indeed find that McGovern Democrats were less likely to be defeated, and the result is statistically significant.

But if you run another linear regression including the Cook Partisan Voting Index for the district as an independent variable along with the McGovern vote, you find that the Cook PVI captures the lion's share of the explanation.

In the new regression, it's still the case that for a given PVI, a McGovern Democrat was more likely to be re-elected, but the result is no longer statistically significant. So, based on the standard statistical test, we can't conclude that, all other things being equal, voting for the McGovern amendment made a Democrat less likely to be defeated. But the "preponderance of the evidence" - the majority of probability - suggests that it did, although the effect was weak compared to the partisan composition of the district. Certainly, there is no evidence for the McCain claim; McGovern Democrats were not more likely to be defeated.

Of the new 184 member Democratic caucus, about 141 are either Democrats who voted for the McGovern Amendment, or Democrats who replaced Democrats who voted for the McGovern Amendment. [Two Democrats replaced Republicans: Colleen Hanabusa (Hawaii 1) and Cedric Richmond (Louisiana 2), likely McGovern supporters, I would think.]

This suggests that while McGovern supporters comprised about 60% of the outgoing Democratic caucus, they will comprise about 75% of the new Democratic Caucus. This roughly approximates the views of Democrats in the country at large: around four-fifths support a timetable for withdrawal.

The 12 defeated McGovern incumbents were:

FL-8 Alan Grayson
IL-17 Phil Hare
MI-7 Mark Schauer
MN-8 James Oberstar
NH-1 Carol Shea-Porter
NY-19 John Hall
OH-6 Charlie Wilson
OH-15 Mary Jo Kilroy
PA-3 Kathy Dahlkemper
PA-11 Paul Kanjorski
VA-5 Tom Perriello
WI-8 Steve Kagen

If one of these 12 is your current representative, please send them a thank you note for voting against the indefinite continuation of the war in Afghanistan.

As for John McCain, maybe when he retires he can get a job writing editorials for the Washington Post.

 

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Everybody knows that the recent election was all about the economy, right? Nobody would claim that American voters just gave Republicans a mandate for more war, would they? Here we go: Republican ...
Everybody knows that the recent election was all about the economy, right? Nobody would claim that American voters just gave Republicans a mandate for more war, would they? Here we go: Republican ...
 
 
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10:17 AM on 11/22/2010
The voters gave the repubs a mandate to shoot wolves from choppers!
05:23 PM on 11/08/2010
I'm not sure what about 1,353 troop deaths to date in Afghanistan people do not understand. Those men and women who die are not dying for our freedom. They are not dying to liberate Afghanistan, or Iraq. They are not bringing women's rights or better education or better healthcare to the Middle East. They are dying for no reason, and that's something that no one wants to take responsibility for.
02:48 PM on 11/08/2010
What ever happened to trying to bring Peace to the World......we are headed toward a major world wide War - yet once again - but this time America will be viewed as the aggressor....China and Pakistan working today together on Nuclear policies.....time for U.S. to become the leader of World Peace - Not World Aggression because there is nothing positive about that for our children's children.
12:02 PM on 11/08/2010
Less than a week after the mid-terms and the GOP Leadership's War Machine is already in full swing. First Graham and now McCain are advocating continuing existing wars and inciting new ones. McCain says the American people voted for war! They don't care who it is, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran as long as we're at war. Afghanistan is the longest war in US history and they want to continue it indefinitely. We have been at war for half of my 18 y/o daughter's life and most of my nephews and nieces have never known a time of no war. These politicians are going to need more cannon fodder as they expand these wars and start new ones. Eventually, they will want to re-institute a draft (with loopholes to exempt their families and friends) and they will come after our kids!
10:42 AM on 11/08/2010
I am so sick of old men who are quite willing to sacrifice other people's children just to further their party's and their own political self interests.
07:36 AM on 11/08/2010
Has McCain been treated for PTSD? If not he should.
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Idean Salehyan
Associate Professor of Political Science, Universi
09:49 PM on 11/07/2010
We should actually be very concerned that our country is involved in two wars, and it was NOT a campaign issue. Yes, the economy is a shambles and people are rightfully concerned about keeping their jobs and their homes. But lives are being lost and billions are being spent on these conflicts. No, simply withdrawing ASAP is not a responsible option, but neither is an open-ended commitment to war. The fact that candidates hardly mentioned Afghanistan and Iraq makes me very sad for our troops and for the innocent lives being lost in the crossfire.
Bernique
Solar is clean, cheap and plentiful
07:30 PM on 11/07/2010
Sir, you are trying to make our heads hurt! But dam good analysis, if I get it right:

"... So, if you were a vulnerable Democratic incumbent running for re-election who voted in favor of the McGovern Amendment, your odds of being re-elected were 77%. If you were a vulnerable Democratic incumbent running for re-election who voted against the McGovern Amendment, your odds of being re-elected were 41% ...

This suggests that while McGovern supporters comprised about 60% of the outgoing Democratic caucus, they will comprise about 75% of the new Democratic Caucus. This roughly approximates the views of Democrats in the country at large: around four-fifths support a timetable for withdrawal ... "

So elections this past Tuesday were a vindication for the antiwar dems. That is not what we will hear or read on the TV or radio or newspapers, but you have made a good case for what the dems are about. And that is very encouraging, Mr. Naiman. Thank you.
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Edward Standley
opinionated jerk
11:58 AM on 11/07/2010
IMO, "success" in Afghanistan and Iraq can either be "honestly" bought outright,or under the cheap and disingenuous guise of "terror fightin' or "nation building". The (abbreviated) truism posited by Carl von Clausewitz 170 years ago still holds water - "War is a continuation of political relations by other means"
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Konnie
GOP = GOLDEN CALF OLD PARTY
10:36 AM on 11/07/2010
it doesn't matter what the voters GAVE THEM. their corporate masters will merely tell them what to do,
and they will do it. war is big profits. war is a great jobs program. the people of this country are so
ignorant and brainwashed that they keep blindly sending their sons and daughters to slaughter in some
false sense of patriotism and honor. its a sick and symbiotic relationship.............then throw in some
Jesus and its a real win/win for somebody..........
01:24 AM on 11/07/2010
Dear New Congress,

Thanks for promising to cut spending. But, I've just discovered something rather important. It turns out that $1 spent on defense costs just as much as $1 spent on entitlements. So, while you're up there slashing the budget, please refrain from getting us into any more deficit exploding, economy crushing foreign conflicts.

Thanks,
Concerned voter
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General Armchair
What, me worry?
06:33 AM on 11/08/2010
Except that: money spent on "entitlements" often go to people with limited resources, so the money is pretty much immediately pumped back into OUR economy.

On the other hand, how much of the money being used to fight these wars winds up going out of country? Karzai and his cronies are buying their Dubai villas with OUR money and that is just not ever coming back.

So in fact, military spending is actually WORSE for the economy than "entitlements."
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Georgerz
Democrat, Social Ultraliberal, Fiscally Liberal
01:43 AM on 11/07/2010
Well, very soon the warmongers (gopers and teabaggers) will have our Nation involved in a war in Iran, at least. The drumms of war are starting to sound louder and louder. We are basically broke from the illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. What is then in the future for economic recovery? not by waging unpaid, illegal wars.
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Cleverboots
06:45 PM on 11/06/2010
I still can't believe that McCain was re-elected in Arizona Do the people of Arizona like having a Senator who's past his sell-by date?
10:18 AM on 11/22/2010
He outspent the others! The mainstream media brainwash still works!
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06:26 PM on 11/06/2010
Orwell would salute the author of this blog--though he'd do so ironically.

The President whom only modestly scaled-back Iraq (as per a BUSH timeline), ESCALATED Afghanistan conflict, Initiated activity in Yemen, has deployed countless drone attacks against Pakistan, increased tesions with the world's largest democracy(India) AND argued against habeus corpus in international law is suddenly EMBOLDENED by a Republican election success?????

Wow, imagine what would have happened if HIS OWN natural instincts had been emboldened by a Democratic landslide....PSHAW.
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Linda Williams
06:18 PM on 11/06/2010
Over at Raw Story: Lindsey Graham determined that US must declare war on Iran and China. Today. Sat. Nov 6th.