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Is a Vote for Romney a Vote for War?

Posted: 12/27/11 12:27 PM ET

Do you remember that time during the 2000 presidential campaign, when George W. Bush made clear to the American people that if he became the next President of the United States, he would take the country to war with Iraq -- a war that would kill 4,484 Americans, "wound" 22,490, give hundreds of thousands of Americans head injuries and post-traumatic stress, not to mention killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis?

You don't remember that? Me neither.

Shouldn't the fact that the Iraq war was a consequence of George W. Bush becoming president, although that consequence was not apparent in 2000, inform how we judge the likely consequences of Mitt Romney becoming president?

No one can say that a war with Iran would be a certain consequence of Mitt Romney becoming president. Some of Romney's war-mongering could be campaign bluster. President Bush engaged in a lot of saber-rattling towards Iran, but he never attacked Iran. Maybe a President Romney would be the same.

Who wants to roll the dice?

Here are some things we know about Mitt Romney. He has promised a more confrontational military policy towards Iran. His advisers include people who have been cheerleaders for war with Iran, and were cheerleaders for the Iraq war. He has pledged to increase the military budget. His advisers include people directly affiliated with military contractors who stand to profit if there were a new war and the military budget were increased. Furthermore, he opposes withdrawing U.S. troops from Afghanistan, and he opposes the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, although the Iraq withdrawal is supported by eight in ten Americans, including the majority of Republicans.

Here's another thing we know about Romney: he is a "chickenhawk", someone who loves war so much that he never served when he had the opportunity to do so, but wants to send other people's children off to die and be maimed.

No one can say that a war with Iran would be a certain consequence of Mitt Romney becoming president. But, knowing what we know now about the consequences of the 2000 election, about Romney's own statements, and about his advisers, is it not reasonable to infer that if Mitt Romney became the next President of the United States, the probability of war with Iran would significantly increase?

If that is true, would that not be reason enough to take whatever reasonable actions are within our power to stop Mitt Romney from becoming President?

Should there not be a Super Pac explicitly devoted to educating Americans about the danger that Mitt Romney becoming President will lead to more war? Shouldn't such a Super Pac be formed now? Why wait until September to start educating and mobilizing Americans against this? Might that not be too late? Why wait to defend the city until the barbarians are at the city gates? Shouldn't we try to stop the barbarians from reaching the city gates?

Aren't there a lot of Americans who don't want another war? Wouldn't some of them contribute money to such a Super Pac?

Wouldn't such a Super Pac make compelling 30 second TV ads attacking Romney for his war advocacy? Wouldn't those ads get a lot of press coverage?

Wouldn't those ads, and the attendant press coverage, have the additional benefits of educating a lot of Americans about the danger of a new war, and fortifying them against it?

 

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Michael D Ballantine
Former Presidential Candidate - Amer Elect 2012
09:45 AM on 12/29/2011
What are you trying to say? Except for Ron Paul and the progressives running in this election, almost every other candidate will go to war with Iran, that includes the President. Is this a pro-Paul blog? What does defeating Romney have to do with stopping a war that will start before the November election? Just wondering.
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CAPTAINSKIPPY
03:10 AM on 12/29/2011
Apply a prosecutor's diligence, add a bit of paranoia, and do the math. VP Cheney was not a pacificist, Saddam was no longer serving our purposes, Powell became expendable soon enough; use the clues that cannot be easily hidden - the announcements only arrive as the next steps are begun. Romney and W Bush are/were satisfied with getting votes to provide basic cover. Romney reminds me of Nixon, which suggests Romney will self-destruct if given enough opportunity. However, neither Congress nor the MSM are sufficiently motivated to engage or challenge in this high stakes game, as they already have what they care about. For 2012, it looks like the 99% are playing with loaded dice, again.
12:10 AM on 12/29/2011
Mr. Naiman, you bring up a Hobson's choice. Is it better for a Republican Romney or a Democrat Obama to drag us into this Iranian War? Judging from today's headlines Romney might be too late to have a chance.
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Fireslayer
09:16 AM on 12/28/2011
Actually in 1999 George Dubya told Micky Herskowitz, a Texas writer who he hired to ghost a campaign biography that if he were elected he would attack Iraq. Bush elaborated further that he wanted to go down in history as a wartime president. Molly Ivens and others, including myself were aware of this at the time and obviously did not do a good job of getting this information out.

Romney is very like Bush- a stealth candidate who has no fixed foreign policy agenda for public consumption. Follow the massive contractor money, note the exclusive club of neo-conmen in his foreign policy team.

Do not trust Romney, who will shift to the middle after he has secured the nomination from the ultra-right wing Republican party. There is a high probability that, by a number of avenues, Romney will go to war with Iran or retrench in Iraq or Afghanistan.
11:59 PM on 12/27/2011
Is a vote for any Democrat or Republican a vote for war? You know it is. A two party ruling class consensus. Thoroughly vetted candidates. If Obama, or Bush, or Reagn, or Clinton, or Carter, or Kennedy were in any way, shape or manner a threat to the ability of the US capitalist-imperialist machine to continue with its wars, invasions and occupations, they would have come nowhere close to the presidency. The same can be said of the candidates who advance past the initial stages of the debates, those initial debates where the party machines and the networks shut the doors on the Kuciniches and Naders and McKinneys and Ron Pauls who might just be a threat to the system. David Brookbank
09:12 PM on 12/27/2011
GW Bush was able to convince Congress to authorize him to invade Iraq only because of 9/11. In the absence of an event of similar magnitude, it is highly doubtful that Romney would be authorized by Congress to attack Iran. Nor is it likely that either the American public or the military would provide Romney with the support necessary to get Congress to authorize an attack on Iran.
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AlfredE69
Occupy Election '12: Vote 3rd Party
09:09 PM on 12/27/2011
Yes, along with a vote for Obama; they are both militaristic.
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demisfine
Often correct, NEVER right.
06:25 PM on 12/27/2011
Romney promised every college graduate a job upon graduation if he is president when they graduate.
Seems like a declaration of war to me.
How else can he PROMISE that they will all have jobs waiting for them once they remove their caps and gowns???
MIC, Defense contracts and deployments are the only way he can keep this promise.
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Inkosi
The gods themselves rage aginst stupidity
09:35 AM on 12/28/2011
Geez, I remember Boehner saying the gov't does not create jobs so how can Romney promise a job??? Ok, he can draft them into the service - thus a job.
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Robert Masters
To take my property is to take my means to live
04:45 PM on 12/27/2011
Evidently a vote for Obama is a war vote. He is the only 2012 candidate who is a demonstrable war monger. The others are talk only so far.
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demisfine
Often correct, NEVER right.
06:27 PM on 12/27/2011
Clearly NOT.
President Obama did not initiate any of the acts of aggression he was responsible for managing.
But you knew that.
The President has responsibly, maturely and prudently waged the wars he inherited.
He also BUDGETED for those wars, which his predecessor chose not to do.
08:47 PM on 12/27/2011
And the lies that destroyed Libya's infrastructure was just a dream.
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Robert Masters
To take my property is to take my means to live
11:35 PM on 12/27/2011
You mean like Libya? Why haven't we left Afghanistan yet?
03:59 PM on 12/27/2011
"Is a vote for Romney a vote for war?" More FEARMONGERING by a left leaning media to drum up support for a desperate Obama.

Based on Obama's Neville Chamberlain like moves concerning missile defense to appease Putin and now showing an ace and leaving Iraq it is Obama who is more likely to lead us into war.

With a WEAK economy, budget cuts to gut our military and "reset button" pushing with copious apologizing Obam is in NO position to play hardball if the need arises........ and every despot in the world knows it................ much like FDR in the 1930's.
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gevan
the pilgrim has landed
04:45 PM on 12/27/2011
You sound like you can't wait for the missles to start flying. How many of your children are in the US armed services?
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Inkosi
The gods themselves rage aginst stupidity
09:37 AM on 12/28/2011
Gevan - can only fan once. Definitely faved!
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raker
04:47 PM on 12/27/2011
Yeah, fearmongering. Republicans NEVER lie us into unnecessary wars. HA!
03:13 PM on 12/27/2011
If Romney is indeed a stooge of business, as most seem to believe, then he is certainly not going to start a war with Iran if he can help it. Arms manufacturers are not the only businesses. And a war with Iran would be very bad for most businesses.
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Inkosi
The gods themselves rage aginst stupidity
04:18 PM on 12/27/2011
Currently it is not only arms (and by the way, where are those jobs?) it is also services like McDonald, taco bell, Haliburton Kellog Brown etc and let us not forget Eric Prince and his newly remaned private "security" forces. So yes, it is good for his buddies.
05:48 PM on 12/27/2011
Price of gas goes way up, it would be disastrous for the economy. No way business is in favor of a war with Iran.
09:46 PM on 12/27/2011
You forgot the oil monopoly who profits from everything moving. More things moving farther is more profit, not forgetting that it will be oil fields beneath our dying children that we will be killing innocents for.
03:13 PM on 12/27/2011
Wow! I must say. This is desperation. An article discussing the question of whether or not Gingrich would like to be a napoleon is of more substance. With no less innuendo and much more substance. To me this appears libelous. A man serving God on a mission has nothing to do with avoiding military service. It means he served God. I see no indication that taking a stronger stance against Iran means that war is inevitable. I think the policy to carry a big stick has always been a good one. Usually it means it is used less. Right now there is a movement for dis-armament of the US. Historically this has caused more wars to disarm the USA.
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gevan
the pilgrim has landed
04:47 PM on 12/27/2011
When the choice is between God and country I guess country comes in second. Not what we like to see in a President of the US ( not a president of LDS ).
10:26 AM on 12/28/2011
When even the constitution was founded by men of faith, and the nation led by men of faith; perhaps it would be best if in this time of chaos if it was led by a man of faith. In this country for the majority of the country, faith and patriotism go hand in hand. You may not know this but all missionaries of all faiths are exempt from war service when called on a mission. So if you truly believe the call for mission duty is from God, do you ignore that call and serve in a war and hope that God understands?
03:04 PM on 12/27/2011
They are all chickenhawks. everyone that sent us to war. To think Romney would not sent us to war again is not listening to his. He said if he were elected Iran would not get a nuclear weapon.
The only way that can happen is with a war.
It is no big deal with them when their own children will never serve. If we go to war their family should be the first to go, every one that vote for war. And thinking you can vote for the president to do what ever it takes to do something and then claim you didn't vote for war like they did with Bush
02:26 PM on 12/27/2011
Romney has used the term "American century" repeatedly in his campaign speeches. Anyone who has read the manifesto of the "Project for the new American Century" will recognize the names of the folks who brought us the invasion of Iraq in 2003. It's clear that Romney has signed up with the neo-cons as regards a belligerent foreign policy. Here is the link to the manifesto: http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm
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whirlybird
Time's a-wastin'!
01:22 PM on 12/27/2011
Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.