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Robert Naiman

Robert Naiman

Posted: October 6, 2009 12:52 PM

Is Team Obama Really Rethinking Afghanistan?

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Some speculation in the press has suggested that the current White House deliberations on General McChrystal's request for 40,000 more troops in Afghanistan might be largely a political tactic. One theory has suggested that President Obama is running the clock, delaying his decision so he won't have to cross Democrats in Congress while health care reform is hanging fire. Another suggests that the deliberation is for show, so that Democrats will believe that Obama didn't rush to judgment, only reluctantly accepting McChrystal's request after serious deliberation and evaluation.

But two recent articles in the Wall Street Journal suggest that Obama and his advisers are indeed rethinking key assumptions which have underpinned U.S. policy.

On October 5, the Journal reported that President Obama had pressed military commanders over whether "the Taliban still has close ties to al Qaeda and whether the international terrorist group would continue to have a haven should the Taliban regain control of parts of the country."

On October 6, the Journal reported that "intelligence and military officials say they've severely constrained al Qaeda's ability to operate there and in Pakistan -- and that's reshaping the debate over U.S. strategy in the region." Some officials, including aides to U.S. envoy Richard Holbrooke, have argued that "the Taliban wouldn't allow al Qaeda to regain its footing inside Afghanistan, since it was the alliance between the two that cost the Taliban their control of the country after Sept. 11."

So, according to these two articles in the Journal -- by two different sets of reporters -- the Administration is seriously examining the question of whether "defeating" the Taliban is necessary to addressing the threat to the United States from al Qaeda. This, indeed, would be re-examining a key Administration assumption.

In his speech on March 27 announcing his "new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan," President Obama based U.S. strategy on the belief that to prevent al Qaeda from having a base of operations in Afghanistan to attack the United States, the U.S. has to defeat the Taliban. Obama spoke of "the return in force of al Qaeda terrorists who would accompany the core Taliban leadership," and said he had ordered the deployment of 17,000 troops to "take the fight to the Taliban" and that there is "an uncompromising core of the Taliban. They must be met with force, and they must be defeated."

To Republicans in Congress opportunistically seeking a talking point against the president, this may be called a flip-flop. To people in the truth-based community, it's a welcome recognition of reality. As Keynes is said to have remarked, "when I am presented with new information, I change my opinion. What do you do?" In the fiasco of the Afghan election, the Obama Administration has been presented with new information that the current policy is fundamentally flawed.

The White House should also re-examine two other key assumptions.

One: how significantly is any threat to the United States increased if al Qaeda has a "safe haven" in Afghanistan? In an op-ed in the Washington Post on September 16, Paul Pillar, who was deputy chief of the counterterrorist center at the CIA under the Clinton administration, asked:

How much does a [terrorist] haven affect the danger of terrorist attacks against U.S. interests, especially the U.S. homeland?

And Pillar answered:

Not nearly as much as unstated assumptions underlying the current debate seem to suppose. When a group has a haven, it will use it for such purposes as basic training of recruits. But the operations most important to future terrorist attacks do not need such a home, and few recruits are required for even very deadly terrorism. Consider: The preparations most important to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks took place not in training camps in Afghanistan but, rather, in apartments in Germany, hotel rooms in Spain and flight schools in the United States.

In a recent interview, Pillar sharpened his case, saying that "the terror threat to the West would not significantly increase if we were to leave Afghanistan" and calling for a timetable for U.S. military withdrawal.

Finally, would a phased U.S. withdrawal necessarily "return the Taliban to power"? This is another assumption that is rarely questioned. But prior to the U.S. intervention in 2001, the Taliban did not have uncontested control of Afghanistan. They had the upper hand in a civil war against the Northern Alliance; they had the backing of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia while the Northern Alliance had the backing of Iran, Russia, and India. The U.S. essentially threw its weight behind the Northern Alliance to drive out the Taliban.

The New York Times reported in May that insurgent leaders had proposed in preliminary talks a timetable for the withdrawal of foreign forces, followed by elections:

The first demand was an immediate pullback of American and other foreign forces to their bases, followed by a cease-fire and a total withdrawal from the country over the next 18 months. Then the current government would be replaced by a transitional government made up of a range of Afghan leaders, including those of the Taliban and other insurgents. Americans and other foreign soldiers would be replaced with a peacekeeping force drawn from predominantly Muslim nations, with a guarantee from the insurgent groups that they would not attack such a force. Nationwide elections would follow after the Western forces left.

This strongly suggests a scenario is quite plausible in which a U.S. withdrawal is not followed by a Taliban military victory, but by the election of a new government that includes the Taliban and its supporters along with everybody else.

So: the case for continuing the war -- let alone escalating it -- rests on three key assumptions, which must all be true to justify the war. If the U.S. withdraws its forces, the Taliban will "return to power." If the Taliban return to power, al Qaeda will have a safe haven in Afghanistan. If al Qaeda has a safe haven in Afghanistan, the terrorist threat to the United States will significantly increase.

Each one of these assumptions is quite uncertain. Together, their uncertainty makes a strong case for U.S. military withdrawal. Withdrawing our forces does not mean the U.S. will have zero influence in Afghanistan. The U.S. can use political and diplomatic tools to work to ensure that a U.S. withdrawal is not followed by a Taliban military conquest; and that the return of Taliban influence is not followed by an al-Qaeda resurgence; and even in the worst case that these efforts all fail completely, the U.S. would still have every tool at its disposal for dealing with al Qaeda in Afghanistan that is has for dealing with al Qaeda in Pakistan and Somalia. And even in this worst-case scenario, in the judgment of Paul Pillar, a former top U.S. counterterrorism official, the terrorist threat to the U.S. would not significantly increase.

 

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Chris1962
NYC
07:43 PM on 10/18/2009
>>>One theory has suggested that President Obama is running the clock, delaying his decision so he won't have to cross Democrats in Congress while health care reform is hanging fire.>>>>

He appears to be doing the same thing (running the clock) concerning the repeal of DADT.
02:02 PM on 11/03/2009
LOL !......Does ..Obama's have..contingency..plan... ?.......beside's.... the deer in the head-light...appropriate.. ... ? ????
02:35 PM on 10/07/2009
The only possible good argument I've heard for the US to keep up military pressure against the Taliban, in Afghanistan, is that somehow, it will prevent the Pakistani atomic arsenal from falling into the hands of people who might use it against the US and its allies. Can anybody fill in the details of this argument by giving some realistic scenarios that we have to prevent? Thanks in advance.
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rlugbill
08:23 AM on 10/07/2009
Good analysis, but still missing the main point. That should be how to bring peace to Afghanistan. If the argument is more troops vs. fewer troops, it leaves out a lot of other options.

People are asking the wrong questions, so they won't get the right answers.

There could be an Afghan approach to peace, where they convence a loya jirga and bring together leaders from throughout Afghanistan and they decide the future of their country.

Or, an international forum where other countries partner with Afghan leaders and insurgent leaders in drawing up a peace plan.

Or, the Afghan government could reach out to insurgent leaders and bring them into a coalition government.

There are lots of solutions, but we are asking the wrong questions. It's all about U.S. military strategy. The U.S. military strategy won't win this war. There has to be a political strategy so that peace can finally come to Afghanistan. Then, it will be less likely to be a haven for Al-Queda.

Only by bringing all parties together and getting a consensus within Afghanistan can there be peace. Without peace, there will always be a haven somewhere because the insurgents will always be in control of some part of the country.

Peace should be our strategy, not war.
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RobertNaiman
Policy Director at Just Foreign Policy
09:08 AM on 10/07/2009
I totally agree that there should be a new Loya Jirga including everyone (unlike before), there there should be a national unity government including insurgents, that there should be international and regional cooperation to back these things.

However, none of that is a substitute for making a political decision that we are 1) not going to add more troops and 2) starting making plans to withdraw our forces by means of a public, negotiated timetable.
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Chris1962
NYC
07:45 PM on 10/18/2009
You're looking for peace from al Qaeda? Oh, brother.
09:59 PM on 10/06/2009
Is Team Obama Really Rethinking Afghanistan?

Perhaps some members are, but the ones on the top are mostly thinking about the midterm election and Presidential re-election chances. Hence, the feeble decision to do.... nothing.
Watch the SNL skit on this.
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pmag88
water and carbon and a bunch of other stuff
06:52 PM on 10/06/2009
It's really very simple. When people lose hope they tend to self-destruct, and whether it's violent extremism, addiction, corruption, or apathy that destroys civilization, the final results are the same. It's time to put ideas over ideology.
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Mogamboguru
I am a liar. Don't believe me.
06:31 PM on 10/06/2009
Finally! A voice o reason!

But, in fact, it boils down to this for president Obama:

1. Let Afghanistan become a new V.i.e.t.n.am.. and be the 21st-century LBJ; or

2. .H.i.t. the brakes on Afghanistan, conduct a thoughtful pullout, and become the icon of peace of the 21st century.
09:06 AM on 10/07/2009
" Boils down to" is phrase devoid of meaning and utterly useless in a discussion of such complexity as Afpak strategic situation.
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Chris1962
NYC
07:46 PM on 10/18/2009
>>>>2. .H.i.t. the brakes on Afghanistan, conduct a thoughtful pullout, and become the icon of peace of the 21st century.>>>>

You think al Qaeda is seeking peace?????
05:37 PM on 10/06/2009
If stabilizing Afghanistan, rather than the nebulous task of "winning," is desired, then part of this rethinking should involve --
-- Understanding the insurgent tribes, and their various reasons for fighting. Thus political solutions could be found to reduce insurgent support.

We should consider the diplomatic and political solutions in Iraq that helped improve stability, and see if such can be applied to Afghanistan. Iraq & Afghanistan both have certain social conflict traits in common: tribal militias & politics, continuous history of tribalistic power struggles, previous rule by a dominant ethnic/religious sect, and overthrow of that ruling sect, followed by the spoils of the new order being reapportioned, followed by insurgent activity, and the sometime exploitation of the new order to settle old tribal scores.

However tactical strategies in Iraq may not necessarily apply in the same way to Afghanistan because Iraq's population is more urbanized (67%), in sharp contrast to Afghanistan(24%), where the population is far more rural. Thus in order to clear and hold territory and protect the population, it is apparently a far more applicable for an urban population concentrated in small areas, than to replicate this to Afghanistan, where troops may have to be more sparsely distributed.

Other differences include a lack of money for development (no oil revenues), and not much of a history of an industrialized economy. Any notions of transforming Afghanistan must consider how much harder it would be than even Iraq.

Political and diplomatic solutions should be found to reduce insurgents' reasons
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jimpager
05:31 PM on 10/06/2009
President Obama is not gonna be Bobby Kennedy...he's LBJ. And
exit strategy folks were not in the room just like single payer folks.
So don't claim consensus. There is no constituency in America supporting
the Afghan War. The generals are playing the "light at the end of the tunnel" aria
like they did for LBJ and he left in disgrace like Bush.

So here we go again. Gulf of Tonkin BS. 15 years of Vietnam...58,000+ dead.
"Weapons of Mass Destruction" BS. Eight years in Iraq and counting...4000+
dead. Now, the pentagon is demanding 40,000 more troops in Afghanistan
or we "Lose the War" BS. Eight MORE years and counting. Will anybody
stand up and say 40,000 and no more? Will anybody stand up and say
40,000 for 12 months, then we come home? Does ANYONE believe 40,000
is ANYTHING but a down payment? We''ve heard this song over and over.
Same tired BS of generals who claim they are so damn smart we can't
question them and 15 years later, when we exit, historians ask, how could we
be so stupid. Since no one else will ask, lets us. How many dead this time?

And by the way, does ANYONE think President Obama can fix the economy by
going from $3B/week in Iraq to $6B/week in Afghanistan/Iraq.

If they really believe so strongly, let them draft the sons and daughters of Congress
FIRST. Anything else is the same tired BS. STOP THE WAR, NOW.
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vieja
05:27 PM on 10/06/2009
Why do we continue to ignore the fact that the Saudis were responsible for 9/11 and that they continue to fund the radical teaching begun by Al Quaeda?
04:00 PM on 10/06/2009
Yesterday Gibbs announced developing an exit strategy was not an option; today we get this. Between Administration spokespeople saying contraditctory things, Administrative leaks saying contradictory things, and President Obama saying contradictory things, it's hard to know how to defend, let alone praise, Obama's position when it's never very clear what that is.
Obama's 'above the fray' attitude towards hard politics worked in th election, but it's just not working out as a 'leadership thing,' if you know what I mean.
Anyway with the Karzai government a corrupt joke, opium the major economy in the north, and the Taliban still firmly established in the south, can we at last admit that "nation-buliding" is a failure (and remembering that Al Queda is the issue, not Afghanistan), bring our troops home?
02:43 PM on 10/06/2009
A main point is that the terror attack on our homeland came from here. Our guard was down; we were lax. We hope that our vigilance has increased, our defense strong. So nation building in Afghanistan is irrelevant to our security. We should bring the boys home!
jhNY
Mercy.
02:26 PM on 10/06/2009
McChrystal's showy public opinionizing is likely an opening salvo in some protracted back and forth between the generals under Petraeus and the White House, so as to ramp up supporters among the public prior to Petraeus' savior on-a-white-horse run for the Republican nomination in 2012. The insularity and wounded sense of superiority exhibited by some of our leaders in uniform is but one unintended but troubling outcome if an all-volunteer army.
03:15 PM on 10/06/2009
The General is perhaps upset because Obama's repeated prior promises, during the campaign, and after until recently, were to increase forces in Afghanistan. The General felt HOPE but fails to recognise the concept of CHANGE.

Is it impermissible to mention on HuffPost the administration's repeated flip flops?
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Fein
Either everybody counts or nobody does.
04:01 PM on 10/06/2009
Historically, no American generals brigade level or above have advocated disengagement or troop draw backs from an active front since WW2 . (Please correct me if I'm wrong!)

They'll always fight the Whitehouse if they don't feel they've 'won'. (they're still sore at Clinton for withdrawing from Somalia!)

But this scenario only develops under democratic presidencies - Repugs never end conflicts - only start them then they leave them unfinished!!
02:21 PM on 10/06/2009
Come on folks. Where were these people who brought down the towers from?

Unless we convince the wealthy middle eastern states that it is in their best interest to defeat radicalism, even in their own people (and by the way, it seems there's enough of that to go around in every culture--ours included) then we will never succeed.
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pmag88
water and carbon and a bunch of other stuff
07:05 PM on 10/06/2009
I agree. But the point must be made that in large part it’s been our insanely out of proportion death struggle against socialism which caused the rise of so-called radicalism in the Middle East. Had we let these people choose their own governments, belief systems, and economic models rather than using them as pawns and proxies to maintain our own power, the world wouldn't be in this situation today.
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jimpager
02:15 PM on 10/06/2009
I think the generals are pitching X is for Iraq and Afghan is 4X Iraq, therefore
150,000=Iraq, then 600,000 = Afghanistan. Obama threw up all over this and is
just now beginning to realize, what Kennedy learned after the BOPs, the military
and intelligence agencies dance to their own drummers and those drummers
ALWAYS play MORE influence, more power, more headcount, and more budget,
and never less of anything except accepting responsibility.
01:25 PM on 10/06/2009
I think Obama will go with Biden's counterterrorism plan. He was speaking at the National Counterterrorism Center today and stressed the point the their main goal should be going after Al Qaeda. He didn't even mention the word Taliban once.