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Robert Naiman

Posted: March 15, 2011 04:41 PM

Washington Smackdown: Petraeus vs. "Substantial Drawdown"


Gen. David Petraeus spoke today before the Senate Armed Services Committee, and is speaking tomorrow before the House Armed Services Committee, selling Congress a "progress" story about the war in Afghanistan that isn't believed by US intelligence analysts. Whether Members of Congress choose to believe Petraeus' reassurances over the assessments of the U.S. intelligence community ("who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?") could prove decisive in determining whether the July drawdown of U.S. forces from Afghanistan that President Obama has promised will be "token," as the Pentagon wants, or is "substantial," as the overwhelming majority of Americans want. The stakes are high: a substantial drawdown of U.S. forces from Afghanistan this year would save many American and Afghan lives and tens of billions of dollars, and would open political space in Afghanistan for a negotiated political settlement that ends the civil war.

The Los Angeles Times reported:

When Gen. David H. Petraeus appears before Congress on Tuesday to tout progress in Afghanistan, he will face a series of pessimistic assessments about the state of the war, including the intelligence community's conclusion that tactical gains achieved by a U.S. troop surge have failed to fundamentally weaken the Taliban.

At a hearing last week,

Gen. Ronald Burgess, head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, offered a sobering view - one that is shared by the CIA, U.S. officials say - that contrasted sharply with the optimism expressed in recent days by Petraeus, who will appear before the Senate Armed Services Committee, and Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates.

"The Taliban in the south has shown resilience and still influences much of the population, particularly outside urban areas," Burgess said, speaking of a region where the U.S. has been focusing many of its resources.

The U.S.-led coalition has been killing Taliban militants by the hundreds, he said, but there has been "no apparent degradation in their capacity to fight..."

There is a politically feasible alternative to General Petraeus' urgings to "stay the course." That alternative is for the Obama Administration to follow through on its promise to begin withdrawing troops in July with a substantial drawdown of U.S. forces. A bipartisan letter to President Obama circulating in the House, signed by more than 50 Members so far, is urging the President to carry out a significant withdrawal. (You can urge your Representative to sign the letter here.)

This alternative is politically feasible because:

a) a super-majority of Americans support a substantial withdrawal;
b) the Democratic Party is on record in favor of a "swift withdrawal" that begins with "a significant and sizeable reduction in U.S. troop levels by no later than July of this year";
c) influential voices in the Administration, including Vice-President Biden, have argued in favor of a substantial withdrawal of forces, beginning in July; and
d) a substantial withdrawal of U.S. forces would bring tangible benefits, including fewer American and Afghan lives lost, tens of billions of dollars saved at a time when budget deficits are being invoked as a justification for draconian cuts in domestic spending, and improved prospects for a negotiated political resolution that ends the war.

Public opinion:

Nearly three-quarters of Americans say Obama should withdraw a "substantial number" of combat troops from Afghanistan this summer, including 80% of independents, the Washington Post reports. Nearly two-thirds of Americans say the war in Afghanistan is not worth fighting, including two-thirds of independents.

The Democratic Party:

Last month, the Democratic National Committee passed a resolution stating that "the Democratic Party supports prioritizing job creation and a swift withdrawal of U.S. armed forces and military contractors in Afghanistan which must include a significant and sizable reduction no later than July 2011." Last July, Nancy Pelosi said she expected to see a "serious drawdown" from Afghanistan in the summer of 2011.

Vice-President Biden:

Last year, Vice-President Biden told us we could "bet" on "a whole lot of people moving out" in July 2011.

Tangible benefits of a substantial withdrawal:

Fewer U.S. soldier deaths

If U.S. soldiers being killed in Afghanistan is bad, then more U.S. soldiers being killed in Afghanistan is more bad and fewer U.S. soldiers being killed in Afghanistan is less bad.

Since 2001, the more U.S. soldiers there are in Afghanistan, the more get killed.

In January 2009, there were a about 34,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, which at that point, was the highest level so far. Today, there are nearly 100,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan. The consequence of this escalation in terms of U.S. troop deaths has been that 837 U.S. soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan since President Obama took office, as opposed to 575 U.S. soldiers who were killed in Afghanistan under President Bush (as shown by the "U.S. Deaths in Afghanistan: Obama vs Bush" web counter.)

US Deaths in Afghanistan: Obama vs Bush. Click here to learn more.

The 837 U.S. soldiers who were killed under President Obama were killed over a period of roughly 26 months. The 575 U.S. soldiers who were killed in Afghanistan under President Bush were killed over a period of roughly 114 months. So, on average, under President Bush, 5 U.S. soldiers were killed in Afghanistan per month, while under President Obama, 32 U.S. soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan per month, a net increase of 27 U.S. soldiers killed per month. Thus, if we returned to the average Bush-era troop levels in Afghanistan, as opposed to the average Obama-era levels, we would save the lives of 27 U.S. soldiers per month, or about 326 U.S. soldiers over the course of a year.

Of course, it is not likely that we would return to average Bush era troop levels in Afghanistan immediately. Suppose we assume, very modestly, that a substantial drawdown occurs over the course of a year, that is, by July 1, 2012, as President Obama runs for re-election, there are fewer than 30,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, a few less than when he took office. We'd expect the monthly death rate then to return to about 11 U.S. soldiers per month, for an average death rate over the year of about 22 per month. This would still save the lives of about 120 U.S. soldiers over the course of the year.

Fewer Afghan civilian deaths

If Afghan civilians being killed is bad, then more Afghan civilians being killed is more bad and fewer Afghan civilians being killed is less bad.

Since 2001, the more U.S. soldiers there are in Afghanistan, the more Afghan civilians get killed.

Unlike the U.S. soldiers, we don't know precisely how many civilians have been killed in the war in Afghanistan, and we likely never will. There are different estimates by different parties, which make comparisons over time much more challenging .

However, we do know clearly what the trend has been in Afghanistan since 2008: more U.S. troops in Afghanistan, more civilian deaths. The UN has reported a 15 percent increase in civilian deaths between 2009 and 2010, following a 14 percent increase between 2008 and 2009. So, if we reduced troop levels to 2008 levels, we should be able to reduce civilian deaths by 24%. It's certain that the UN figures are an undercount of civilian deaths, but even taking them at face value, a reduction in civilian deaths over the period of 24% would save the lives of 329 Afghan civilians.

Tens of billions of dollars saved, countering claimed need for domestic cuts

A rough estimate has been that it costs about $10 billion to put 10,000 US soldiers in Afghanistan for a year. Suppose that this figure is roughly correct for our purposes here. Suppose a "token withdrawal" over the course of the year following July 1 consists of no more than 10,000 troops. And suppose a "substantial withdrawal" would leave no more than 30,000 US troops in Afghanistan on July 1, 2012 - again, just a bit less than the level when President Obama took office.

If we pretend that the withdrawal of troops would happen at a constant rate, then the first scenario is like having 95,000 troops in Afghanistan on average for a year, and the second scenario is like having 65,000 troops there on average for a year. Thus, a "substantial drawdown" would result in an average of 30,000 less troops in Afghanistan over the course of the year, resulting in a savings of $30 billion - half of what the House Republican leadership wants to save by eliminating the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and Americorps, and cutting money for infant nutrition, community health centers, Head Start, and rental assistance, among other things.

Open political space for a negotiated resolution

Finally, a significant reduction of U.S. troops in Afghanistan would create political space in Afghanistan for a negotiated political resolution to end the war, as Afghan President Karzai and others have argued.

As Reuters reported on March 2:

"Admitting that there was 'friction' with his Western allies over strategy in Afghanistan, Karzai said he had told his allies the military surge should be scaled back to permit negotiations. 'The military is less inclined to accept it (this argument). The political side, the civilian side, is more inclined to it,' he said."

"Substantial drawdown" isn't pie in the sky. Congress can make it happen. Urge your Representative to speak up.

 

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ProfessorDuh
11:18 AM on 03/16/2011
Obama, who professes to support core liberal values while carrying out policies that mock these values, mutes and disempowers liberals, progressives and leftists. Environmental and anti-war groups, who plead with Obama to address their issues, are little more than ineffectual supplicants.
Obama, like Bush and McCain, funds and backs our unending and unwinnable wars. He does nothing to halt the accumulation of the largest deficits in human history. The drones murder thousands of civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan, as they did under Bush and would have done under McCain. The private military contractors, along with the predatory banks and investment houses, suck trillions out of the U.S. Treasury as efficiently under Obama. Civil liberties, including habeas corpus, have not been restored.
The public option is dead. The continuation of the Bush tax cuts, adding some $900 billion to the deficit, along with the reduction of individual contributions to Social Security, furthers a debt peonage that will be the excuse to privatize Social Security, slash social services and break the back of public service unions.
Obama does not intercede as tens of millions of impoverished Americans face foreclosures and bankruptcies. The Democrats provide better cover. But the corporate assault is the same.
— Chris Hedges
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ProfessorDuh
11:01 AM on 03/16/2011
Let's not hear the Pentagon pretend that they are somehow displeased by their continuing, planned multi-trillion-dollar failure, which enriches the military-industrial complex as it bleeds ordinary Americans white and the Middle East red.
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Carl Caroli
Give peace a chance
09:03 AM on 03/16/2011
I'd say Obama is going to do what Petraeus and the MIC wants, with a token withdrawal to stop the screaming.
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Buckeye54
...the One your mom warned you about!
08:41 AM on 03/16/2011
It's hard to pick the winning side in a civil war. We should withdraw and after someone wins, we can decide if their government is worth supporting with material aid. Who rules their country is something for Afghanis to decide.

Every dollar not spent fighting this forsaken war could be spent educating our children, rebuilding our infrastructure or supporting our returning veterans.

And need I say that every soldier brought home and not lost fighting this winless war is one less dagger aimed at the heart of some American family.

When there are only positives to be gained in the decision to end a war, it's time to bring our troops home.
08:29 AM on 03/16/2011
I'm sorry, but I don't give a S##t about the Taliban. We went into this country to get Al-Queda. Al-Queda is not there anymore, they are in Pakistan. But we keep pouring $Billions into Afghanistan. The word "Al-Queda" has now been replaced by "Taliban." Our military chooses to call the Taliban "Insurgents" but that is not true. Whether we like them and what they believe in or not, the Taliban are Afghani nationals who, in their opinion are fighting a war against an invading army (the USA) just like they did against Russia when our military called them the "mujahadeen" and supported them with training, arms and money to defeat the Russians. Now we are the invaders, using the Taliban as our enemy of choice in order to provide a reason to keep our weapons manufacturers in the black. I work in the defense industry and I am constantly watching , amazed, as these companies introduce more and more new weapons that, unsurprisingly, are having little effect against the Taliban but at great cost to American taxpayers. Why the minimal effects? Because the Taliban are fighting to protect their country against an invading power and are willing to die in defense of it. The USA will NEVER beat them unless we Nuke the entire country. How long would YOU fight to protect your home and family if this country were invaded? Obama and Gates: Stop killing our soldiers to provide profits for defense contractor investors!
12:46 AM on 03/16/2011
Doesn't anyone question why the level of American combatants is being debated in AMERICA? Congress acts as if the USA owns the entire world . Those "enemies" are AFGHANIS - and WE debate what WE are going to do in THEIR country.

Neo colonialism at its worst.
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koolwoman
04:57 AM on 03/16/2011
Marind, You are exactly right. It is ludicrous for us to be there. How many more soldiers and innocent Afgans have to die before we end this madness ?
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ewldest
I don't care "whose" war it is - end it now
08:34 AM on 03/16/2011
Exactly - keep repeating until it sinks in.
Afhanistanis must solve their own problems on their own.
But of course were not really there to help them solve any problems, but to intimidate them to do our will.
And apparently our leaders are willing to throw any amount of resources and any number of lives away in that vain effort until they finally realize that this cannot be accomplish. We cannot bully people into doing our bidding long, not without disastrous consequences.
That is why all colonialism is doomed to failure, and why all empires fall.
02:31 PM on 03/16/2011
So true. Look at the great empires. Each fell because it over extended itself militarily, bankrupting itself and often while failing to improve its infrastructure and educate its people. Meanwhile, the "ruling class" often contributed to the crash by gobbling up more and more of the wealth.

For example:

Macedonia (Alexander the Great)
Rome - 400 AD
Spain 17th century (after the New World gold ran out)
France 1812 (invasion of Russia)
Germany 1914-18
Austria 1914-1918
Britain 1914- 1945
Japan 1933- 1945
USSR 1989 (after THEIR failed Afghan adventure)
USA ???

It's just a matter of how soon.
12:43 AM on 03/16/2011
For those of us who lived thru the Vietnam area: We remember "the light at the end of the tunnel."

It was a lie in Vietnam. And it's a lie now.
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innerpuppie
The truth is an absolute defense...
12:16 AM on 03/16/2011
Let's see - Obama wants to win in 2012. If he doesn't withdraw our troops his base will be livid. Uhm, what do you want to bet that he at least makes some sort of a token withdrawal of our military to win votes? Not the greatest reason to 'do the right thing' but I'll take any reason that will get us the heck out of there ASAP!
11:27 AM on 03/16/2011
I heard he is going to withdraw 5 troops soon. Awesome!
12:14 AM on 03/16/2011
For a good assessment about progress in Afghanistan talk to Bradley Manning.
10:57 PM on 03/15/2011
Glad to see someone on HuffPost doing some analysis and presentation of alternatives. We need discussion, questions, thinking on all sides of this question!
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cadawa
09:18 PM on 03/15/2011
Sadly this argument against drawdown will be couched in political terms instead of what is best for both nations. The Obamaphiles will insist 'my president right or wrong' and will try and sink this most sensible idea, though it's origins be odd. The righties know they don't have the firepower to push it through.
I don't either Party is serious about a drawdown even though they should be. They both dial for the same 'defense industry dollars'. It's a dog and pony show.
08:47 PM on 03/15/2011
Is the guy able of "clear speak"???
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marignymitch
E pluribus unum percent
07:59 PM on 03/15/2011
Public opinion? Obama, Gates & Co: ROTFLTheirAO.

We're not leaving, ever.
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whyisthis41
07:52 PM on 03/15/2011
Petrauus acts as though HE is the PRESIDENT...Empire Building is great for the Pentagon...never mind what we the people want.