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Perry on Social Security: A Newer, Softer Version of a Conservative Idea

Posted: 11/03/2011 9:07 am

A few days ago, I wrote about Rick Perry's unviable tax plan. In the same policy document (PDF, see page 14), he outlines his beliefs about Social Security. A few months ago, Perry was calling Social Security unconstitutional and a Ponzi scheme, but now he seems to want to preserve it. Rick Perry's statements about Social Security have moderated, but his proposal remains very far to the right.

Let me start by giving some credit where credit is due: His proposals to reduce the growth of Social Security expenditures are reasonable. First, he advocates slowly raising the full retirement age -- given that life expectancy has increased by more than a decade since Social Security was introduced, this step is unavoidable. And as it should, Perry's proposal takes into account the special needs of those engaged in physical labor such as construction workers.

Second, Perry wants to slow the growth of benefits for upper and middle class Americans through my 2005 idea of progressive indexing (he eschews the word "progressive" in favor of "blended"). This would mean that every future retiree would receive benefits that at least match the purchasing power of benefits today, but the growth of benefits for relatively higher earners will be reduced. To offset this reduction, I have suggested increasing tax credits to match contributions of middle class families to private savings accounts -- it is unlikely that Perry would consider such a policy.

While these are reasonable ideas on the benefit side, he undermines the revenue side of Social Security. There are many reasonable ways to increase revenues to Social Security, such as a 2 to 3 % surcharge on wages above today's cap. However, I would respectfully disagree with those who want to raise that cap from $106,800 to $180,000. That would impose a huge tax increase -- 12.4% of up to $73,000 salary -- on the upper middle class, with little effect on the truly wealthy.

By contrast, Perry would allow workers to put all their payroll taxes from Social Security to a private account. This diversion would increase the overall US deficit -- contrary to his stated goal of reducing the deficit and inconsistent with his balanced budget amendment. The unfunded liability of Social Security currently has a present value of over $5 trillion and the program went negative on a cash flow basis in 2010. Whatever long-term reforms we adopt, we need to continue payments into Social Security so it can continue to pay benefits already accrued by American workers.

In short, despite some good suggestions on benefit reform, Perry's proposal on the revenue side would hasten the day when Social Security becomes insolvent. We need to fix Social Security, not to bankrupt it.

 
 
 

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Thaigold
Life is Fun
05:39 AM on 11/06/2011
No American citizen should receive less than a retired member of the House or Senate in retirement and medical benefits. They work at our consent, is this too hard to understand?
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
02:58 PM on 11/03/2011
This is typical conservative "economics", that they need to bankrupt Social Security in order to "save" it. Kind of like how conservatives borrowed and squandered their way to an epic $14+ Trillion Reagan-Bush-Bush National Debt in order to be "fiscally conservative".
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Ally Solver
Problem Solver Extraordinaire
02:52 PM on 11/03/2011
According to the author, Social Security, on a present value basis is underfunded by $ 5 trillion. The author seems to want to keep increasing payroll taxes. This will not fix the problem.

The problem can be solved quickly and easily.

But citizens/voter keep relying on politicians and economists to fix Social Security, which will never happen until the programs is totally broke.
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Scott EngageAmerica
02:07 PM on 11/03/2011
From the 2011 OASIDI Trustees Report "Non-inter­est income is projected to be sufficient to support expenditur­es at a level of 77 percent of scheduled benefits after trust fund exhaustion in 2036, and then to decline to 74 percent of scheduled benefits in 2085" (http://www­.ssa.gov/O­ACT/TR/201­1/II_D_pro­ject.html).

Reform must take place: either by raising the wage cap over $106,800, by increasing the retirement age to keep pace with longevity, by means-test­ing and eliminatin­g benefits for very high income seniors, or by some combinatio­n of these proposals.”
12:44 PM on 11/03/2011
Malthus is dead and his theories falsified by our present society. Productivity increases alone can pay for Medicare and Social Security for everyone at the current rate, and more as productivity is growing exponentially.

If the benefits of productivity were passed along to those that made it possible instead of those in a strategic position to funnel it to themselves, this would not be an issue.
SeriesSeven
Progressivism is a disease.
11:32 AM on 11/03/2011
It's beyond me why liberals cannot see what is so incredibly obviously foundational inefficiencies in the social security system.

Issue #39: People believe that raising the retirement age makes sense because life expectancy is longer.

Increasing the retirement age based on life expectancy is an acknowledgement that the expected total duration of retirement is fixed. If you advocate for increasing the retirement age while maintaining the total expected retirement duration as fixed, the only thing you advocate for is paying more for the same thing. Now a worker has to work for 50 years for 10 years of retirement where before they were only expected to work 45 years. I don't see how that's a good deal for anyone except greedy politicians.

Everyone needs to wake up and realize that Social Security is the problem. You can't fix it. It was created as a broken system and can never, ever be fixed. Time to cut our losses.
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LazarusRises
Tax The Rich, Feed The Poor!!
01:13 PM on 11/03/2011
Begin by properly naming your allegation. You make the Ponzi scheme argument, absent an important component, logic & basis. Social Security has existed for 75 years. Any successful Ponzi scheme's chance of collapse increases the larger it gets. The problem is easily fixed by raising the salary cap to a level necessary to maintain Social Security.

Presently, there is a $5T super fund surplus. To a large measure that surplus exists BECAUSE of the Baby Boomers. For decades, we have been putting in enough to far exceed expenditures. It was no secret that eventually the boomers would cause a substantial cost to Social Security, it was inevitable. That IS the entire basis for creating such a large surplus, without a tax cut instead. The fund is supposed to have sufficient assets to pay full benefits until between 2037-2048. In 2037 the oldest boomers shall be 90 & the number of boomers will decrease substantially fairly rapidly.

By then, Social Security will be into its 2nd century, far too long for any Ponzi scheme to exist.
11:10 AM on 11/03/2011
So, what is the hurry in "fixing" Social Security?

It's O.K. to go until 2036.

Plenty of time to get the Great Recession behind us and only then set about guaranteeing Social Security for the next 75 years or so.

And as far as imposing a tax increase upon our wealthier citizens, I can recall that when I said goodbye to my childhood days and began working and paying taxes that for a good number of years the biggest bite from my paycheck was my Social Security payment. And while it hurt I got by. Thus I figure that folks making $75,000 a year or more could get by, too, despite an increased Social Security bite from their paychecks and then have there Social Security as something of a bonus upon retirement. Maybe a smaller bite for those making $250,000 or less. Who knows?
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den1953
The National Inquire of Politics the GOP!
11:10 AM on 11/03/2011
I often wonder how the conversation would shift if all of a sudden the American people pushed for the end of Government pensions or the Government health care system? How much campaigning the Republicans would do to end government social networks for government workers and the law makers?
11:04 AM on 11/03/2011
It's easy Tex:

1. Raise the payroll tax to include a minimum of 180K of wages.
2. Reform health care in America....get the national expense down fro 18% of GDP to 1% of GDP.
3. Reinstate progressive taxes to readjust wealth disparity curve. Even if it turns out that 90% should be the top bracket!
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Daryl Pienta
Not a fan of the far righ...errr. wrong wing
09:12 AM on 11/03/2011
raise the $104000 cap on social security tax to $1 million and reduce the collection age to 62 where it belongs.

Then weed out all the blatant fraud in the system and all of S.S's perceived problems would be fixed
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missprissanna
the weight of the news nearly broke my back
09:44 AM on 11/03/2011
It's really easy for these guys working at a desk on easy street to think raising the eligibility age is the best option to repair ss. Besides the fact that their work isn't physically demanding, they have access to the best health care, paid sick days and plenty of vacation, of course they're living longer.
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skylark
Tangled up in blue..
10:05 AM on 11/03/2011
Faved. Already fanned. The article doesn't acknowledge the problem of age discrimination, either, which makes it essentially impossible for many older workers to get jobs. Those advocating raising the retirement age never, ever admit to this problem.