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Follow the Money: Behind Europe's Debt Crisis Lurks Another Giant Bailout of Wall Street

Posted: 10/05/11 03:23 PM ET

Today Ben Bernanke added his voice to those who are worried about Europe's debt crisis.

But why exactly should America be so concerned? Yes, we export to Europe -- but those exports aren't going to dry up. And in any event, they're tiny compared to the size of the U.S. economy.

If you want the real reason, follow the money. A Greek (or Irish or Spanish or Italian or Portugese) default would have roughly the same effect on our financial system as the implosion of Lehman Brothers in 2008.

Financial chaos.

Investors are already getting the scent. Stocks slumped to 13-month low on Monday as investors dumped Wall Street bank shares.

The Street has lent only about $7 billion to Greece, as of the end of last year, according to the Bank for International Settlements. That's no big deal.

But a default by Greece or any other of Europe's debt-burdened nations could easily pummel German and French banks, which have lent Greece (and the other wobbly European countries) far more.

That's where Wall Street comes in. Big Wall Street banks have lent German and French banks a bundle.

The Street's total exposure to the euro zone totals about $2.7 trillion. Its exposure to to France and Germany accounts for nearly half the total.

And it's not just Wall Street's loans to German and French banks that are worrisome. Wall Street has also insured or bet on all sorts of derivatives emanating from Europe -- on energy, currency, interest rates, and foreign exchange swaps. If a German or French bank goes down, the ripple effects are incalculable.

Get it? Follow the money: If Greece goes down, investors start fleeing Ireland, Spain, Italy, and Portugal as well. All of this sends big French and German banks reeling. If one of these banks collapses, or show signs of major strain, Wall Street is in big trouble. Possibly even bigger trouble than it was in after Lehman Brothers went down.

That's why shares of the biggest U.S. banks have been falling for the past month. Morgan Stanley closed Monday at its lowest since December 2008 -- and the cost of insuring Morgan's debt has jumped to levels not seen since November 2008.

It's rumored that Morgan could lose as much as $30 billion if some French and German banks fail. (That's from Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council, which tracks all cross-border exposure of major banks.)

$30 billion is roughly $2 billion more than the assets Morgan owns (in terms of current market capitalization.)

But Morgan says its exposure to French banks is zero. Why the discrepancy? Morgan has probably taken out insurance against its loans to European banks, as well as collateral from them. So Morgan feels as if it's not exposed.

But does anyone remember something spelled AIG? That was the giant insurance firm that went bust when Wall Street began going under. Wall Street thought it had insured its bets with AIG. Turned out, AIG couldn't pay up.

Haven't we been here before?

Republicans and Wall Street executives who continue to yell about Dodd-Frank overkill are dead wrong. The fact no one seems to know Morgan's exposure to European banks or derivatives -- or that of most other giant Wall Street banks -- shows Dodd-Frank didn't go nearly far enough.

Regulators still don't know what's happening on the Street. They have no clear picture of the derivatives exposure of giant U.S. financial institutions.

Which is why Washington officials are terrified -- and why Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner keeps begging European officials to bail out Greece and the other deeply-indebted European nations.

Several months ago, when the European debt crisis first became apparent, Wall Street banks said not to worry. They had little or no exposure to Europe's problems. The Federal Reserve said the same. In July, Ben Bernanke reassured Congress the exposure of U.S. banks to European nations in trouble was "quite small."

Now we're hearing a different tune.

Make no mistake. The United States wants Europe to bail out its deeply indebted nations so they can repay what they owe big European banks. Otherwise, those banks could implode -- taking Wall Street with them.

One of the many ironies here is some badly-indebted European nations (Ireland is the best example) went deeply into debt in the first place bailing out their banks from the crisis that began on Wall Street.

Full circle.

In other words, Greece isn't the real problem. Nor is Ireland, Italy, Portugal, or Spain. The real problem is the financial system -- centered on Wall Street. And we still haven't solved it.

Robert Reich is the author of "http://www.amazon.com/Aftershock-Next-Economy-Americas-Future/dp/0307592812" target="_hplink">Aftershock: The Next Economy and America's Future, now in bookstores. This post originally appeared at RobertReich.org.

 
 
 

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binkyblue
09:33 AM on 10/24/2011
That'll teach them to trust us to run the world economy!
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Bill Roth
I wrote it so it must be true....
11:24 AM on 10/12/2011
I would be worried too if I helped lend Trillions to those abroad on the backs of the future taxpayers.(GAO July2011 FED Audit)
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weathergirl
loved politics as a little girl!
05:24 PM on 10/07/2011
The "Occupy Movement" has the correct idea. We need to re-regulate Wall Street. Wells fargo bank is now going to charge people a 15 dollar a month fee for what only used to be 7 or 8 dollars a month! This is outrageous. Frank Dodd did not go far enough.
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EAPrince
My other car is an Al'kesh
11:36 AM on 10/07/2011
The problem is that the financial system can't be trusted to look out for itself yet is determined to stop anyone else from doing it for them. Unless the government has the guts to force them into bolting on some training wheels, this will keep happening. Profit always has and always will override simple common sense. That's why there must be iron clad regulation and enforcement with draconian penalties for those who still won't listen. The free market needs a wide road to run on, but it has to have guard rails or it WILL run right off the cliff sooner or later. Just like it did in 2008.

Erik
http://eaprince.blogspot.com
11:20 PM on 10/06/2011
Robert Reich and Paul Krugman are the only two economists who are known to ordinary non-economists and who have consistently been right about the real financial system of the United States.
Why Barack Obama refuses to avail himself of their knowledge and wisdom is one of the great mysteries of the Obama administration. Obama's unfavorability rating (the different between those support him and those who disapprove of him) has been growing in the negative direction a point every couple of days. At this rate, Obama will soon be so far in the hole that he will have no hope of winning a second term.

All the more reason to wonder why Obama never learns, never questions his earlier conclusions, never considers replacing his failed financial advisers. Who is really running this country? It's clear that it's Wall Street and corporate interests who control our politicians who appear to be ignorant puppets. Why is Tim Geithner still Secretary of the Treasury? There can be no answer except that Obama sold out to greed.
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GhostOfSchlesinger
09:52 PM on 10/06/2011
OccupyEVERWHERE!

We would all do well to read the Declaration of the Occupation of New York City:

http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/

As has been observed, they patterned their declaration on The Declaration of Independence.

In other words, they began with a list of grievances before making a list of demands; offering solidarity with anyone - left, right, Republican, Democrat, Tea Party . . . anybody - that believes that the entire world is off the tracks and Wall Street is the center of a broken system that IS NOT a free market - rather, it is a plutocracy, plain and simple; not in the interests of small businesses, entrepreneurs, white collar workers, public or private sector working folks . . . no one is served by the current perversion of the free market by the 1%.

We The People are the 99%.

This DOES NOT have to continue. We need only be engaged . . . OUT OF APATHY AND INTO ACTION.

And that, of course, presupposes a willingness to dialog with EVERYONE - not just those that agree with a progressive perspective, but with conservatives and centrists and political agnostics . . . EVERYONE . . . all of us . . .

The 99%.
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rootytoot
08:53 PM on 10/06/2011
We are witnessing the total break down of the european style socialism. We see the failure of promises made for votes that can not be kept. Europe has the high taxation the left seek, europe has the entitlements the left seek, and yet europe is imploding before our eyes. You really truly do finally run out of other peoples money.
02:41 AM on 10/07/2011
Whose money is it then the US is running out ? Before Europe will implode, your poverty rate in the US will be around 90 %.
11:28 AM on 10/08/2011
Did you read the article? Doesn't seem that you did.
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Talab
I tot i taw a putty tat
07:26 PM on 10/06/2011
Let em go broke this time . We need execs to be responsible for debts of their company from their own pocket if they are going to be paid like they are now and at the same time allow the schemes that they allow to go forward to make that money. The next "bail out" needs to be for the American people not the ones that got us into this mess , let them sell pencils on street corners ( after taking their fortunes for restitution)
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EAPrince
My other car is an Al'kesh
11:30 AM on 10/07/2011
I understand how you feel, however letting them collapse would be far worse. The financial system is far too connected with everything else. It's why we bailed out the banks in 2008. If we let them sink or swim we would have seen a total collapse of the banking system which would have killed the economy for a long, long time to come. Not just a recession, but a full fledged, mass unemployment depression.

Erik
http://eaprince.blogspot.com
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Peter007
03:25 PM on 10/07/2011
That's just fear that the sky is falling.

If I go down, then everyone goes down.

That's too bad.
I don't believe you. If you bet on Europe, then you lose if they go under.
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vobox3343
Each day is a new day - make the most of it
04:47 PM on 10/06/2011
Like I've said before, we know this president and this administration is working tirelessly for America and her citizens. How sad it is that the Republicans refuse to tell the truth.
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rootytoot
08:49 PM on 10/06/2011
The truth is, Obama has Geithner who aided and abetted in the entire damn mess as his treasury secretary, wake the hell up.
11:23 PM on 10/06/2011
Most people know that this president and his administration have failed miserably to reform the Wall Street pracitces which are impoverishing the middle class and created the 2008 Great Recession. That's why we are headed for an evern great recession. On this, the Democrats and Republicans agree.
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kanook67
The future is not what it used to be.
03:58 PM on 10/06/2011
After the Great Depression a lot of stiff regulations were placed on banks so that they could do the job that banks were supposed to do and no more. The system worked very well for a long, long time, 50 years or so until about the 1980's. Then came massive de-regulation and to our chagrine we know how that abomination turned out.

Fortunately no studies are needed to figure what regulations should be applied to the banking industry today. Pull out the regulatory framework from any year from 1930 to 1980 and presto, job done. If you think they should be tweeked a tad to fit today's new realities, than fine, tweek 'em a tad but only a tad as they worked very well for many differing economic times for 50 years so the basics are there to copy. Now all we need is a government with the will to do it !!
11:31 AM on 10/08/2011
Spot on.
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lambdin1
What's this?
02:59 PM on 10/06/2011
All roads lead to Rome (Wall Street). America has been duped by its own greed!
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Talab
I tot i taw a putty tat
07:31 PM on 10/06/2011
Nope we were duped by the small group that controls wall street ... and the federal reserve , and banks .. and the futures markets ... in fact we are still being duped . What do you want to bet that the second "dip" in the double dip recession is about 4 or 5 months before the 2012 elections ..
11:24 PM on 10/06/2011
Obama's trusted financial advisers, and all of his financial appointments in the White House are from Wall Street. He picked the same people who caused the economic decline to advise him.
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lambdin1
What's this?
08:45 AM on 10/07/2011
No thank you! I do not care to "bet". That is what got us here in the first place. Wall Street and the financial instutions are nothing more than large casinos!
11:38 AM on 10/06/2011
Finally, more-n-more people are realizing that TARP bailouts only prolonged the crisis;

not "saved the economy".

Because every TBTF is exposed to a global financial system built upon 1.5 Quadrillion in worthless derivatives and credit-default swaps, they are all hopelessly BANKRUPT!

Adopt Glass-Steagall worldwide to erect a firewall between the public and a hopelessly doomed, utterly bankrupt Wall Street/City of London and let the financiers FAIL, choking on their own losses.
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vobox3343
Each day is a new day - make the most of it
04:49 PM on 10/06/2011
I suggest you view the photos from the Great Depression, then come back and tell us what a failure the bailout has been.
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WaveRhydr
DIEBOLD-WE VOTE SO YOU DONT HAVE TO
11:32 AM on 10/06/2011
This time let the wall street gambling houses go under. They do our country much more harm than good. Let them go out and find honest work, while we invest in our people and country, once again.
11:41 PM on 10/06/2011
Our government will continue to bail out the corporations and the banks which they have allowed to become too big to fail until the US dollar is worthless and have an unemployment rate of 25%. We cannot adopt the same legislation that saved the US and world economy after the Great Depression of the 1930 because there is no politician on the national stage who gets this picture and has the skill and money to be elected. Our political system is much more corrupt today than it was in 1929. We need to go back to chosing the presidential nominee at the national convention of each party - rather than allowing each promising candidate to be picked off during the primaries and two years of expensive campaigning prior to the election. This process forces successful candidates to sell themselves off to the highest bidders in order to raise the money required to run for president. Our system cannot elect an ethical candidate like Franklin Deleanor Roosevelt today, even if such a person exists. A majority of voters are so ignorant that they don't understand the causes of our current political and economic disaster. Our Supreme Court is commited to regressing to a mythical constitution and theocracy falsely attributed to our founders in the 18th century, based on political mythology about the Revolutionary War.

All three branches of our government are failing. There is no check or balance on power and concentration of wealth. This situation is unprecedented in the US.
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
10:37 AM on 10/06/2011
The real problem is the financial system -- centered on Wall Street. And we still haven't solved it.

Problem is it's TOO centered on Wall St. not on the rest of the economy aka Main St.
Investors just just EAT IT, they can WAIT not get paid quickly enough and not as much, I mean really what's Europe gonna do, they can't abscond to South America, they are still gonna be here, they aren't going anywhere, apparently NO ONE remembers NYC's default and Orange County default-they are still here, people still live there and go to work everyday, stuff is still being made, services are still being provided, the world did not end........jeez C'mon Wall Street YOU AREN'T ALL THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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labrown
11:08 AM on 10/06/2011
Wall St is the de facto government of the United States
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Jim Milks
Ecologist
10:35 AM on 10/06/2011
Isn't it interesting that those who shout the loudest about free markets and against any form of regulation are the first to ask for government money when they are faced with big losses due to their abuse of that same free market? If they were such strong believers in free markets, then they should be willing to take losses as well as profits. Instead, they suddenly become socialists when faced with losses. Hypocrites.
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Peter007
03:29 PM on 10/07/2011
That's total; BS and you know it.
None of the banks asked for any bailout.
The bailouts were pushed by Paulson and the Liberal Democrats in Congress.
Most banks didn't want any of those forced loans.

The bailout was a bail out of Washington DC.
Never forget that.
The government relies on borrowing. They owe 14 Trillion now and they need that pipe line to stay open.
01:15 PM on 10/08/2011
Using Ben Franklin as an avatar of such nonsense and incorrect information is an insult to one of our greatest founding fathers. Read The First American, a wonderful recent biography of this founding father, who was critical to the success of the Revolutionary War, the formation of the Constitutional Congress, and the clarity of the Declaration of Independence and making enough peace among attendees to get the Constitution approved in Philadelphia. Franklin was also a careful scientist who always got his facts straight, a brilliant diplomat, and a first rate raconteur. Peter007 fails to reflect any of these steller qualities.

I refuse to continue to allow corrupt Right Wingers like Peter007 to mytholoigize our founders in their non-scientific, ill-informed alternate universe. His beliefs are the opposite of truth.