Robert Scheer

Robert Scheer

Posted: September 30, 2009 02:59 AM

Exorcising America's Diplomatic Demons

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This week the Chinese Communists celebrate their 60th year in power, an event that the make-war-not-peace crowd, now bloviating over Iran and Afghanistan, might benefit from contemplating. They might also recall a time when the mere suggestion of peaceful coexistence with the Red Menace of China was a career-ender for high school teachers and State Department officials alike. Now the danger from the Chinese Reds is that, being more prudent capitalists than Americans, they might be unwilling to continue carrying our rapidly growing debt.

According to the demonology that has long driven U.S. foreign policy, no country has ever cast a larger shadow as evil incarnate than Communist China. All communists in the Cold War era, like all Islamic radicals today, were assumed to be part of a unified internationalist movement bent on world conquest. And the Chinese, as the Iranians now, were thought to be the worst of the pack. Incapable of change and therefore the fit object of unrelenting hostility, they needed to be confronted militarily, up to the point of nuclear annihilation if that's what it took, as the taped musings of various U.S. presidents attest. This was also a prospect for Iran that Hillary Clinton contemplated as a presidential candidate.

Communism once was, as the Islamic terrorist threat is today, presented as an undifferentiated revolutionary impulse that could never be diplomatically accommodated without sacrificing our own security or, indeed, our freedom. The various communist nations and movements, like those currently led by a polyglot collection of Islamist radicals, were stripped of any complexity, be it in their national identity or ideology.

That mentality prevailed until the day that President Richard Nixon suddenly decided that we could do business with Mao Zedong, the most fervently revolutionary communist of them all. What Nixon recognized was that the Chinese Communists were, like their Soviet counterparts, nationalists first and foremost. Any notion of an international communist conspiracy with a timetable for the takeover of the world (the correct answer on more than one social studies test I took as a kid) was rendered absurd by the fervent, even xenophobic, nationalism of a Tito, Castro or Ho Chi Minh. All of them made their revolutions, as did the Chinese, without significant outside help and were hostile to any foreign interference, no matter the source. Ho, who had successfully battled French colonialists, hardly wanted to exchange them for the Chinese overlords who had governed his country for a thousand years.

Yet that obvious fact did not stop Nixon from continuing to kill millions more in Vietnam and Cambodia in the name of combating international communism -- even after he went to Beijing to toast Mao. Fast-forward to last weekend, when John McCain, as his way of justifying an escalation in Afghanistan, was on talk shows bemoaning our failure to win the Vietnam War. Nobody asked him what national security purpose a U.S. victory in Afghanistan would serve. Our defeat in Vietnam led not to dominoes falling all the way to San Diego, as was predicted, but rather to Communist Vietnam and Communist China going to war against each other. Today those still-communist powers are battling for shelf space in Wal-Mart and Costco. This would have happened without sacrificing almost 59,000 American soldiers and the 3.4 million locals who died in a war that Defense Secretary Robert McNamara said he could never honestly justify.

The limits of demonology as a substitute for thoughtful foreign policy are amply on display in the approach to Iran as the purported leading agent of Islamic terrorism. Once again we are the self-defined white hats blithely ignoring our long history of affronting Iranian national integrity. That assault began with the CIA-engineered overthrow of Mohammed Mosaddeq, the last secular elected leader of his country, and continued with our support of Iraq's Saddam Hussein in his war against Iran. By ultimately overthrowing Saddam, the U.S. vastly increased the power of Iran's religious hard-liners by installing their disciples in power in Iraq. By supporting the Islamic radicals in Afghanistan, whom Ronald Reagan called "freedom fighters," the U.S. introduced al-Qaida to that country. Blowback is the inevitable outcome of a dangerous game that must be stopped.

What we need is for Barack Obama to pull a Nixon and attempt to cut a deal with Tehran as well as with competing forces in Afghanistan that meets their nationalist aspirations and our security interests. That won't be easy, since he is a Democrat and the Republican hard-liners will not allow him the slack given to Nixon. It is also true that the Iranian leadership can veer into outrageous behavior, making the international pursuit of peace extremely difficult. But does anyone believe that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad can hold a candle to Mao when it comes to provocative rhetoric?

 
 
 
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- joabear I'm a Fan of joabear 6 fans permalink

Mr. Scheer this is a MUST READ for you. Iran is a welare state more than an Islamic one. Cut the welfare and see the regime implode from within:

Why the Islamic Republic Has Survived

Ervand Abrahamian

http://www.merip.org/mer/mer250/abrahamian.html

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 10/05/2009
- joabear I'm a Fan of joabear 6 fans permalink

Obama should thank the Iranian people.

“Presumably the régime in Iran is being so forthcoming because it needs a win on the international stage to shore up its flagging legitimacy at home, in the wake of presidential elections widely viewed as fraudulent...” If this is true, Juan, then while we lament the spectacular failure of the Bush/Cheney administration's ‘belligerent non-engagement’ foreign policy, and note the progress, apparent achieved by president Obama — we should rightly give credit to the courageous Iranian people, themselves for their sacrifice = this gift: making any semblance of détente between IRAN and US possible.

http://www.juancole.com/2009/10/obama-pwns-bush-cheney-on-iran-first.html#comments

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 10/03/2009
- joabear I'm a Fan of joabear 6 fans permalink

The only viable way to confront Ahmadinejad
by SETAREH SABETY in Nice, France
30 Sep 2009 17:22

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2009/09/-opinion-almost-everyone.html

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 10/03/2009
- joabear I'm a Fan of joabear 6 fans permalink

Balance of deterrence, or a catastrophe?
Iran has no intention to limit or alter its nuclear program
http://www.iranian.com/main/2009/oct/balance-deterrence-or-catastrophe#comment-220007

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 10/03/2009
- joabear I'm a Fan of joabear 6 fans permalink

Cuddling another ruthless dictator in the ME is not the answer? When are we going to learn?? Haven't we always paid in hte long run for doing exactly what you're suggesting??

Why so myopic??

At any rate, the Islamic Republic under Ahamdinejad will never cut a deal with Obama. Doing that will deestablize the base constituents of the regime (IRGC and Basij Paramilitary) and will leave them no choice but to join the Green movement.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 10/03/2009
- zell I'm a Fan of zell 6 fans permalink

Everything Robert is saying makes sense. But, we know that the Democrats (not since FDR and LBJ) do not have the will to stand up and do the right thing. When President Nixon went to China, the Republicans did not care what the Democrats thought. It is past time for Democrats to start the peace process with all of our so-called enemies and stop caring what the Republicans think!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 09/30/2009
- Winning09 I'm a Fan of Winning09 7 fans permalink

Sorry, Bob, that is both false and ignorant.

>>>> By supporting the Islamic radicals in Afghanistan, whom Ronald Reagan called "freedom fighters," the U.S. introduced al-Qaida to that country.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 09/30/2009
- Jimmyboyo I'm a Fan of Jimmyboyo 19 fans permalink

Great article

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 09/30/2009
- mjc I'm a Fan of mjc 10 fans permalink

Well said. If you decide to run for office, let me know; you would be the first candidate to tell it like it really is. It does seem as if this country, or its leaders, need some "boogeyman" to exercise their manly militarism. The most hypocritical of these threats of sanctions on Iran or worse is what is expected of Iran but is never, ever expected of Israel. Obama's talk of eliminating nuclear weapons is just high-level snake oil from a very intelligent salesman. Israel will never, EVER, give up their weapons and/or settlements. And it would be a stretch to believe that India or Pakistan would either, but the least likely of any nation is our own nation. What is very much a threat...to world peace and security...is the ratcheting up of our threats to Iran, bullying noises that might well ignite the even more militarily driven Israelis. Could we ever expect much from the Middle East after an exchange of nukes between Israel and Iran?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 09/30/2009
- Kirby I'm a Fan of Kirby 21 fans permalink

Well said, indeed, for Obama can knock himself out to strike an acceptable deal with Iran for the U. S., and Netanyahu can screw it up by doing a nuke strike, saying it's not good enough for Israel. Only one thing can guarantee that Israel will keep all of Jerusalem and the West Bank, and that's to nuke Iran, that potential threat to rabid extremist ziohnist Israelis. Obama will be rendered powerless because the real powers in this country, encapsulated in AIPAC, will have all of Congress groveling. And it is possible, too, that Netanyahu will cut off Obama at the pass with another preemptive move before Obama can negotiate.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 09/30/2009

"Israel will never, EVER, give up their weapons and/or settlements" Israel has completely uprooted all settlement from the Gaza strip, but do not let the facts bother you, right? Oh, and of course you are more than willing to overlook the risks of a dictatorship selling/giving away the nuclear weapons to practically anybody, e.g. Russia to China, China to N. Korea and probably Pakistan, N Korea to Syria, Pakistan to anybody with money, what's next, Hizballah and Hamas? Israel has justified security concerns vis-a-vis Iran and its proxies that have been incessantly attacking Israel for the past 5 years.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 09/30/2009
- TrekBear I'm a Fan of TrekBear 5 fans permalink
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Israel may well have removed all Gaza settlements, but at the same time Israel made and continues to make it impossible for a viable Palestinian state, there or in the West Bank, to exist. We need to insist that Israel pulls back to the 1948 borders and declare those its official international borders.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 09/30/2009
- Dredd I'm a Fan of Dredd 15 fans permalink
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Agreed. This kill baby kill mentality that has been around for nearly a decade now is wothless and has to go.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 09/30/2009
- William50 I'm a Fan of William50 9 fans permalink

Allowing the real and useful idea that the way to win is to divide a nation, political parties, religions or tribes, the way to step away from Afghanistan is to allow the factions to have to fight within the country to decide, (yes, that would be a civil war) who is running the country. This would take from three to twenty years before they would have the willpower and man power to attack Pakistan. In Iraq, if history serves me correctly, the nation was divided after world war two into the land mass we now agree is a country. Because the Arab leaders had lost, they had sided with Germany, no thought or care was given to the religious, economic or political/tribal areas. I suggest that as America with draws we also redraw the lines of the areas with in this country. This would allow a weak central government and strong regional areas. They then would be equal in military strength and the political wars would keep the area in a boil for decades.
Iran is not Arab. They are more nationalistic then the surrounding Arab countries. The way to destroy Iraq is to open trade with them. Give the people, young people a taste of the ideas and goods the west has. This will topple the old guard faster then any war!.
middleamerican2010
Casey

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 09/30/2009
- Aaror I'm a Fan of Aaror 43 fans permalink

"Only Nixon could go to China."
If Obama makes nice with "I'm a dinner jacket" (Whoopi's way of remembering how to say his name), Repubs will call him soft or a traitor.
Unfortunatly, they will put party before country.
Of course, Repubs have put party before country since 1982... Which explains why we have been failing as a nation.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 09/30/2009
- Jimmyboyo I'm a Fan of Jimmyboyo 19 fans permalink

r's are already calling him soft and a traitor

LOL

there is no "they will"

They are!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 09/30/2009
- khepri I'm a Fan of khepri 4 fans permalink

Great post. Yes, the dominoes didn't fall, despite the shrill warnings that the end of the world was at hand should the Viet Cong prevail. The greatest threat that America faces is itself: the war on terror has done more harm to US well-being and stature than to its supposed targets. In that sense, the bringing down of the twin towers was only act one--the final acts of America's destruction were left to its own elected officials who, tragically, have put the capstone on the insidious work of Mohammed Atta.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 09/30/2009

Any deal with Tehran should include a peace constitution for the U.S.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 09/30/2009
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 317 fans permalink
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Yep.

Successful politics are made by clear, thinking brains, not by fearful, resentful guts.

It's high time for the return of reason to this discussion. War mongering, threads and sanctions will lead to nowhere.

Imagine, how the ME and the world would look like, if Iran were no foe, but an alliy these days!

In a different political atmosphere than today, the Green Revolution from June this year in Tehran might well have prevailed. Another marvellous historical opportunity lost to stupidity.

How many more, until reason will set in again?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 AM on 09/30/2009
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