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How Little We Know About the Origins of 9/11 and the Religious Zealots Who Perpetrated It

Posted: 09/08/11 08:50 AM ET

For a decade, the main questions about 9/11 have gone unanswered while the alleged perpetrators who survived the attacks have never been publicly cross-examined as to their methods and motives. It is not conspiratorial but rather obviously plausible to suggest that they have been kept out of sight because legal due process, constitutionally guaranteed to even the most heinous of criminals, might provide information that our government would find embarrassing.

We remain in ignorance as to what drove religious zealots formerly allied with the United States to turn against us, and what was the role of our ally, Saudi Arabia, the country of origin for most of the hijackers and their financing. Why in the aftermath of the attack did the United States embrace Pakistan, which was one of only three governments (Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates were the others) to diplomatically recognize the Taliban and which turned out to be harboring the fugitive Osama bin Laden? And why did we instead invade Iraq, a nation known to be engaged in a deadly war with bin Laden and his al-Qaeda?

How little we know about the origins of the Sept. 11 attacks is laid out in the disclaimer on Page 146 of the official 9/11 presidential commission report. A box on that page states clearly that the conventional narrative of how those portentous events unfolded is based largely on the interrogation under torture of key witnesses who have never been permitted a single moment in a publicly observed court of law.

As the bipartisan commissioners ruefully conceded, their examination of the motives, financing and actions of the alleged 9/11 perpetrators had to "rely heavily on information from captured al Qaeda members" that the commissioners, despite having been granted the highest security clearance, were never allowed to seriously vet:

"We submitted questions for use in the interrogations but had no control over whether, when, or how questions of particular interest would be asked. Nor were we allowed to talk to the interrogators so that we could better judge the credibility of the detainees and clarify ambiguities in the reporting. We were told that our requests might disrupt the sensitive interrogation process."

That sensitive interrogation process included the waterboarding of the key witnesses, led by alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was scheduled to go on public, civilian trial in Manhattan last spring, until the Obama administration caved in to hysterical Republican-led pressure and called off the trial.

The fear of a public trial is apparently that it will be an occasion to humanize the presumed perpetrators of barbaric acts, but by that standard no alleged murderer should ever be tried in civilian court. The counterargument is that we as a society have, from the drafting of our Constitution, been committed to due process of law. But an even more compelling objection to the present secrecy flows not from the inalienable rights of the accused to justice but rather from the need to fully inform the public as to the dangers faced by our society.

Major policy developments, including two undeclared wars, were conducted in the name of defeating the perpetrators of 9/11 without the pubic being made aware of the relevant facts. Surely a public trial would have revealed, to the deep embarrassment of the Bush administration, that there was no connection between the 9/11 hijackers and the government of Iraq that the United States overthrew.

At the very least, such testimony would have shed light on the cozy relationship between the U.S. government and the key leaders of al-Qaeda, particularly the American-educated Mohammed, recruited by the CIA to join the fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan. It certainly could also have proved embarrassing to former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who, during the Bush administration, opposed public trials and managed last March to get President Barack Obama to reverse his pledge of civilian trials. Gates boasted in his 1996 memoir of his long history of working with Islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan, dating to his days in the Carter administration. As his book publisher bragged at the time, Gates exposed "Carter's never-before revealed covert support to Afghan mujahedeen -- six months before the Soviets invaded."

Of course 9/11 changed everything; nations were invaded, trillions of dollars were wasted, hundreds of thousands of civilian and military lives were lost, torture became acceptable and the public has come to tolerate a daily governmental assault on privacy as normal. But for all of the high drama and cost of the U.S. response, when it comes to understanding the forces behind the attack, we still do not know what we are talking about.

 
For a decade, the main questions about 9/11 have gone unanswered while the alleged perpetrators who survived the attacks have never been publicly cross-examined as to their methods and motives. It is ...
For a decade, the main questions about 9/11 have gone unanswered while the alleged perpetrators who survived the attacks have never been publicly cross-examined as to their methods and motives. It is ...
 
 
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Erewhon7
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01:28 PM on 09/09/2011
"we still do not know what we are talking about."
Really?!!!
Let us refresh our memories
Fact: On Sept. 11 2001. a group of Islamist extremists hijacked 4 planes, killed thousands of innocent Americans and caused billions of dollars in damage.
Said extremists were.
American Airlines Flight 11
Hijackers:Mohamed Atta, Waleed al-Shehri, Wail al-Shehri, Abdulaziz al-Omari, Satam al-Suqami.

United Airlines Flight 175
Hijackers: Marwan al-Shehhi, Fayez Banihammad, Mohand al-Shehri, Hamza al-Ghamdi, Ahmed al-Ghamdi

American Airlines Flight 77
Hijackers:Hani Hanjour, Khalid al-Mihdhar, Majed Moqed, Nawaf al-Hazmi, Salem al-Hazmi.

United Airlines Flight 93
Hijackers: Ziad Jarrah, Ahmed al-Haznawi, Ahmed al-Nami, Saeed al-Ghamdi.

Glad to help.
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YankeeCanuck
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04:18 PM on 09/09/2011
Whodunit is not as interesting as why. And how it was allowed to happen--most likely through mis-communication or bubmling.
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12:20 PM on 09/09/2011
"The fear of a public trial is apparently that it will be an occasion to humanize the presumed perpetrators of barbaric acts."
Wrong.
The fear was that if this self-confessed 9.11 organizer goes free, Obama's chances fro reelection goes from 50% to zero.
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12:10 PM on 09/09/2011
Planet Chomsky resident.
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brainsurgery1
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07:53 AM on 09/09/2011
No reasonable credibility can be given to the suggestion that the Bush government did not know of the depth of hatred directed at the U.S. and that a major deadly threat had been made and would be carried out. As to Saudis, it's also apparently true that the Bush Admin. Gave them special treatment and actually assisted their escape from questioning - from the Miami Herald this week: Just two weeks before the 9/11 hijackers slammed into the Pentagon and World Trade Center, members of a Saudi family abruptly vacated their luxury home near Sarasota, leaving a brand new car in the driveway, a refrigerator full of food, fruit on the counter — and an open safe in a master bedroom.

In the weeks to follow, law enforcement agents not only discovered the home was visited by vehicles used by the hijackers, but phone calls were linked between the home and those who carried out the death flights — including leader Mohamed Atta — in discoveries never before revealed to the public.
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nick1936
07:50 AM on 09/09/2011
The reason these plotters were not questioned is because Bush allowed them to leave the country before the FBI could start it's investigation.
05:08 AM on 09/09/2011
They do hate our freedoms and anything that goes against their believes. They don't like women to be treated equal to men, that is a fact. The effort to introduce sharia regions in the UK is just one example of it. The fact the Islam doesn't recognize any laws other than what the quran came with is another example

Though that is not why they attacked. If I remember correctly OBL considered the American forces in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia as invading forces that should leave. He didn't like the US support to Israel either. OBL didn't recognize the governments of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait as Islamic or representative of the muslim people either. Under such circumstances it was easy to find islamic scriptures that gave him the right to attack Islams enemies.

On the other hand the actions of the US were least to say not mature or well thought out in my opinion. They reflected the interest of big corporates and big money.

Bottom line grow up, man up and stop the political correctness stupidity.
08:26 AM on 09/09/2011
"They do hate our freedoms and anything that goes against their believes."

I sincerely hope that the "they" you refer to here are the Leaders and not
the populace. In spite of their Leaders, they do envy our freedoms and want
the same freedoms for themselves. And, of course, "Leaders" seem to have
one main focus, to Stay in control. I experienced that right here in the USA,
in my childhood church of all places!
11:40 PM on 09/08/2011
Before blaming the US for all of their hatred, here is a quick homework assignment for those with 5 minutes and an open mind. This may help add some perspective.

Google: Thomas Jefferson, Barbary pirates, Ambassador to Tripoli, or maybe The Shores of Tripoli. Find Jefferson's quote presented before a joint session of Congress when he was still an ambassador. Jefferson had asked the Ambassador to Tripoli why they hated this new country, captured our merchant ships, and enslaved or killed our crews.

The ambassador's response to Jefferson shocked him. The honesty of the ambassador's statement would explain a lot to Mr. Scheer; you see, this question was asked over 200 years ago, and the answer has not changed much since.
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nick1936
07:51 AM on 09/09/2011
so what was the answer????
10:09 AM on 09/09/2011
If I answered you now, it would spoil all of the fun of discovery for others. I promise to post the response later today.
08:56 AM on 09/10/2011
Here is the answer I promised:

“that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman [Muslim] who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
08:43 AM on 09/09/2011
Interesting response by the ambassador. Now I'm wondering if their problem might not be the same as our problem (meaning white and christian), that "interpretation" is the key. I don't know, just wondering. Thanks for the Google suggestion.
The one thing most glaring in all of this, to me, is that an enormous number of people continually
'live in the past', trying today to right the perceived wrongs that occurred back then. What isn't
so obvious is that such a view means that one is held captive to the past and can't move forward until they are satisfied with an 'eye-for-an-eye' solution. How pitiful a life that is, to live in the present but being a prisoner to the past.
08:51 PM on 09/08/2011
Nobody ever knows anything among the brain-dead american public. The USA media tells them xyz, and then they parrot xyz to anyone they meet or react to xyz without a deeper thought. The mentality is equivalent to a meathead whom someone taps on the shoulder, points to some random guy and tells the meathead: hey -'that guy' was talking trash about you. The meathead instantly goes over to the random guy and starts to attack him without questioning the person who gave him the info or even questioning the the target about his supposed actions....the guy who gave the info in the meantime is laughing at the entire situation.
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FearlessFreep
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08:27 PM on 09/08/2011
I guess "They hate our freedom" is an inadequate explanation, isn't it?
08:52 PM on 09/08/2011
that's all it took to get the animals going.
09:22 PM on 09/08/2011
haha, that was always a favourite of mine.

The unquestioning support for Israel was, of course, nothing to do with it.
07:53 PM on 09/08/2011
The fact is us in the West are so hypocritical about democracy and dictators. It's not a stretch at all to say that the Saudi Royal family is one of the most corrupt, most harsh dictatorships on the planet, and we not just supportthem, but back them with arms as needed. I am quite sure the family loves keeping Muslim hatred directed against the West and not against them. But mark words, if they interfere with western interests, their internal dissidents will get the support that same Libyan dissidents received. Talking of Libya, the western governments were generally in a period relaxed relations with Quadaffi until extremely recently. He must of indicated to the oil companies something they didn't like.... maybe a large royalty bump?
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ruleoflaw66
And I'd opt out of 'fans' too if I could.
04:59 PM on 09/08/2011
A coup happened in 2001. Most of us just aren't aware of it yet.
08:52 PM on 09/08/2011
I believe it happened in 1913..
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ruleoflaw66
And I'd opt out of 'fans' too if I could.
09:37 PM on 09/08/2011
Yes. Then banks took over then. 2001 saw them cement their hold over us militarily. Try www.tarpley.net for Webster Tarpley and google his appearances on Guns and Butter on KPFA. I think you'll find him of interest.
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Watersisland
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10:49 PM on 09/08/2011
The question IS.....who won....and what did they win?
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nycpaladin
Have truth will travel
04:58 PM on 09/08/2011
Robert Scheer has added absolutely nothing new to our knowledge with this article.
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darquelourd
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05:21 PM on 09/08/2011
isn't that the point?
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nycpaladin
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02:43 AM on 09/09/2011
I guess it is--in an oxymoronic kind of way.
jhNY
Mercy.
04:50 PM on 09/08/2011
A few hours ago, I said we had invaded Iraq so as to control oil supply and routes and to flank Iran. Further I said, had the populace here been told these were our motivations, does anyone believe there would have been a such a number of people to oppose the policy that it would not have been undertaken? Now, I come back to find my comment has been removed. I attacked no one, used no obscenities and in all ways comported myself within the stated guidelines-- so WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL GUIDELINES AND WHERE CAN I READ THEM?
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jhNY
Mercy.
11:05 AM on 09/09/2011
If you were being sincere in your offering of a link, thanks. But I have read this before, and reacquainted myself with it yesterday before posting the comment to which you have replied. I found nothing in these guidelines which led me to believe my comment had been removed for a violation of what they had laid out there-- hence my request...
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gts31bumbee
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11:45 AM on 09/09/2011
To flank Iran ? Wow, it would have been better and easier to just go into Iran. You forget the political climate and that as much as 50% of the educated Iranians 18-40 were U.S. educated and very unhappy with their own oppressive government. Forget your Repug. damage control B.S. and have a swimmingly good day.
jhNY
Mercy.
12:58 PM on 09/09/2011
Nowhere do I promote the idea of flanking Iran-- I just present it because it was one of the reasons why the Bush cabal in its fanciful strategies of total word domination found Iraq such a useful place to invade. And it was one of the few reasons they found Afghanistan a portion of the globe they wished to occupy, besides the necessity of making a show of concern and revenge re OBL.

Portrayal of ideas is not the same as promotion of ideas. And calling what I wrote "Repug. damage control B.S." is unhelpful and emptily hostile.

Finally, as to your assessment of the political climate at the time of our invasion-- whose? Iran's? If so, the word that might best characterize it is 'oppressed'.

Ours? If so, the word that might best describe it is 'hysterical.'

The deep unhappiness of Iranians educated in the US may be real, but their antipathy to foreign incursion outweighed it, and does so till the present day.
04:37 PM on 09/08/2011
"But for all of the high drama and cost of the U.S. response, when it comes to understanding the forces behind the attack, we still do not know what we are talking about."

- Whose fault is it?
This decade was probably the worst in American history mainly because of bad leadership and greed. It is also very unfortunate that your actions are effecting the whole world negatively, and sadly ... continuously.

Time for the American people to man up grow some B**s take matters into their hands and investigate the actions of their superiors and influential elite. They didn't just bankrupt the US but ruined the world.

If you think you have won the war on terror think again... few hundreds cave men got you where you are today and the fight is still as lethal as ever. Meanwhile you have lost your prosperity and way of life.
whose got the bill ...?
May God Allah Jehovah and especially Darwin have mercy on us.
professor
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04:09 PM on 09/08/2011
Whatever their motivations, they sure knew the US well. They knew that a wrong-headed, troglodytic, inapposite, and money-burning in inconceivable amounts response was inevitable.
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darquelourd
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05:22 PM on 09/08/2011
I don't think that took much effort.