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Robert Slayton

Robert Slayton

Posted: May 22, 2010 03:55 PM

Libertarians

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When I first got to Orange County, Libertarians were like Martians to me: strange, exotic creatures, and I'd never actually known one.

But living in the OC broadens your horizons, and I am now acquainted with several of this rare species. Like the rest of humanity, some are despicable, and some are generous and honorable. When I became disabled, for example, one of the most caring of my colleagues is a Libertarian. I am grateful to him.

But I wouldn't vote for him, nor would I cast a ballot for Rand Paul.

The problem is that in an election, you're not choosing someone to live next door, you're deciding who should make policy. And in this case, ideology trumps morality, in a number of powerful ways.

So far the hot issue around Dr. Paul seems to be race, so let's start there. My friend is an eminently decent person on this subject, and helped my school reach out to the African-American community back in the sixties, when the John Birch society held a prominent position on the local scene. He would never dream of discriminating against anyone; we first met when someone tried to pit us in a debate over gay rights; he declared that as a Libertarian, he would never deny anyone rights, and thus there was no difference in his position and mine.

But he is also not in favor of civil rights laws, only because he is opposed to government regulation of the workplace. In his eyes, any employer who discriminates is a fool, and will damage his business by not hiring the best candidate for the job. And what could be a worse penalty than that?

What indeed? Because of his ideology, he fails to see that government can be a force for social justice in our society, and can right wrongs. It can prevent a child from feeling pain, the pain of rejection from a school, or an adult gay man being denied a position because of who he sleeps with. And his position ignores the fact that I can cross a sidewalk in my wheelchair because of cut outs, and I can eat in just about any restaurant, because of government guarantees of my rights.

But Libertarianism can be even more insidious than that. Advocates like Dr. Paul claim that they are speaking on behalf of the little guy, against the steam-roller of a large institution like big government.

The problem with this claim is that there is another big institution that harms the ordinary citizen in our world, and that is big business. And in that case, libertarians have little to condemn, and thus show their true colors.

A couple of recent examples highlight this. Many Americans are outraged by the BP oil spill, and its destruction of our environment. And the guilty party is an oil company, nobody's hero, and a foreign one to boot (it's not named British Petroleum for nothing). This seems like the perfect foil for a supporter of the Tea-Party and the ordinary American, both of which Dr. Paul claims he is a champion.

Oops. During an interview on Good Morning America, Dr. Paul claimed that by lashing out at oil giant BP, President Obama had been "un-American in his criticism of business." So much for fighting for the little guy against the big bad oil company; BP's publicists could not have put it better. Dr. Paul's position is pro-big business, anti government, and let the little guy take the hindmost. In his fervor, he is defending, not a citizen's right, but the right of a large company to do as it pleases, the public interest be damned.

Or take the case of Scott Brown's recent vote in favor of bank regulation. Brown was elected with Tea Party support, and many of their folks seem angry at the bank bailouts. Reining in the banks seems like a tailor made issue for them.

And it would be, if their agenda was to stand up for the little American. Instead, according to the Winnipeg Free Press, there was a sense of betrayal by many of his former supporters. Sandra Burkhart wrote on his Facebook wall, "You are a pig....Oink oink and you just sealed your tomb with us voters...." Kevin Minnehan decided, "Your days in D.C. will soon be over. You lied....." Someone observed on Twitter, "Do you really expect better from guy who posed nude and pimps his daughters on TV?"

So their dirty little secret is out. Libertarians are not really for the little guy, against structures that would grind down our individuality. They're really just right-wingers, pro-business and anti government, the only institution with the power to limit large corporations when they commit abuses. Rand Paul is sincere, but in his blindness and dogmatism, he becomes a shill for big business, not the champion of citizen's rights he claims to be.

 
 
 
 
 
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01:27 PM on 06/25/2010
Bob,

Terrific article, belated comment.

Yes, libertarians seem to be more anti-government than pro individual liberty or rights, for the reason you cite: individual rights can be crushed by forces other than government. Indeed, our nation’s founding document argues that men create governments to protect their rights. Thus a law that protects rights -- i.e., the Civil Rights Act -- is central to the purpose for which our government was created. To object to it is to put one outside the American tradition. Talk about “un-Americanâ€!

Further, I find that libertarians express a relentless devotion to individual freedom, but they are biased toward some types of individual freedom and not others. They think it’s okay for me to use my freedom to deny someone equal pay on the basis of sex or race, but it’s not okay for me to use my freedom to vote for lawmakers who will pass laws to stop that. Why is one an infringement on individual freedom and the other is not? Why should I accept their version of how I should utilize my freedom to vote in my own self-interest?
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01:42 AM on 05/30/2010
The ignorance towards what Liberty means and what the libertarian philosophy is a tragedy for this site. While most of this audience whom views huffingtonpost is liberal orientated and dismisses anything opposing their worldview as hokey. The libertarian stance as a whole has a lot of great ideas. I believe it was Rothbard in the 60s who had a journal called left and right or something to that extent to examine the common points between the far left and far right. Please read more before you dismiss the ideas of both the Pauls as racist. They have valid points if you can pick up a book and learn rather than just listening to talking points.
05:27 PM on 05/27/2010
Author, you completely miss the libertarian position that larger entities, be them government or corporate, DO NOT have the right to trample on individuals. For example, try finding a libertarian who is cool with the idea of eminent domain. You won't find one, nor will you find a libertarian who says "let big companies do as they please"
02:26 PM on 05/23/2010
Libertarians are truly Wall Street's finest whores.
09:02 PM on 05/23/2010
Libertarians are against crony capitalism. Stop your whining.
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Matt Blanc
12:55 PM on 05/23/2010
Do you think that Libertarians are simply lazy thinkers? It seems that they don't go past some simplistic views about government, business, and individual rights. They don't seem to be able to comprehend that collective action (i.e., gov't intervention) is about the only way to create the "level playing field" that they - and a lot of Liberals - would like to believe is possible. I think the influence of big money in gov't is proof that getting to that 'level playing field' is nearly impossible. Still, it is something to aim for. But tossing out the concept of gov't intervention (such as is needed in off-shore oil exploration regulations) is truly throwing the baby out with the oily, greasy bath water.
pharmmajor
proud Libertarian.
12:02 PM on 05/23/2010
Libertarians are NOT right wingers. If you believe that, you are delusional.
02:23 PM on 05/23/2010
Libertarians are all pot-smoking republicans extremists who believe in total corporate authority. YOU are delusional.
pharmmajor
proud Libertarian.
03:10 PM on 05/23/2010
And you are an ignorant f00l if you buy into that lie.
05:29 PM on 05/27/2010
Dude, you've got no clue what you're talking about. Try reading about libertarian beliefs before offering up nonsense as the truth. Heck, the basic tenant of libertarians is the sanctity of the rights of an individual. That's not even close to advocating "total corp authority"
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JohnBryansFontaine
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07:06 PM on 05/22/2010
'Libertarian' has become what ultra-Conservatives call themselves when they're not honest enough to call themselves ultra-Conservatives.
02:23 PM on 05/23/2010
Exactly.
05:29 PM on 05/27/2010
So don't confuse the two. Libertarians are not conservatives.
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mommadona
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06:09 PM on 05/22/2010
OC ~ my sympathies~lovely compounds in that area.....
04:48 PM on 05/22/2010
First of all, the republicans are gonna get a surprise in November when they don't win like they project, they are out of touch. Yea the republican party is making noise now and they are active, but they are now ran by libertarians, anti-government, and prejudiced people, not to mention that's a small part of the population. When I saw these clowns protesting not even 100 days into the Obama Admin. I was like OK, I have never seen something like this...even after Bush vs Gore and we all know who really won that election. I even seen a great article that spoke about it, it was called "republicans rewrite tea party history" I am not sure where though, Anyways did anybody catch Obama getting back at the tea partiers when he was in Mich. Oh my goodness, he did it with grace. You gotta check the story and you cannot keep hating the man

http://apleblog.com/2010/05/22/obama-gets-even-with-tea-partiers/
04:35 PM on 05/22/2010
Libertarians dont believe in butting into other people's business. That works fine for international relations so a Libertarian would make a good UN rep. or a Secy. of State, for example. However, on domestic issues, laizze faire wont do. The government has a duty to protect its individual citizens from corporate preditors and help them in times of catastrophe. Caveat Emptor is a relic from the 18th Century which is worshipped by Libertarians but has no place in any modern civilized society.
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05:44 PM on 05/22/2010
The problem is that while we might wish to be isolationist, it just won't work, we interact too much with the rest of the world and have done so since the very beginning of America!
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ramsha
04:14 PM on 05/22/2010
“What if Rand Paul gets hit by a drunk driver (Remember I do not wish that on any body) because "Accidents Happen" just like S#@t happens. As a consequence Rand Paul gets nothing as a settlement. He is now in a wheel chair and trying to go to the "spine doctor" in a high rise building. Lo and behold there are no ramps for the disabled. He calls out the doctor to come to the window at the fourth floor and requests to see him in the street level. The Doc says that she does not see men in wheel chairs. Rand Paul goes to the BP station in the corner owned by a non white person to complain, and is told to scram as they do not want to listen to whining honkiesâ€
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mech126
I believe government works, if you let it.....
04:22 PM on 05/22/2010
WOW great comment, fanned
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LeftRight
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04:06 PM on 05/22/2010
I like how Ed Schultz defines Libertarians. They are Rightwingers who want to have sex and smoke dope!
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editorjuno
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05:16 PM on 05/22/2010
Schultz stole that one from Thom Hartmann (who probably got it elsewhere).
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LeftRight
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05:43 PM on 05/22/2010
Darn it, yeah you were right, it's Thom Hartmann who I heard it from!!
06:23 PM on 05/22/2010
It was Bill Maher who said that too..just last nite