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Living on Planet Duggar

Posted: 03/30/2012 11:45 am

We now have a new planet to add to the growing list of Earth-like planets that are being discovered by astronomers. Let's call it Planet D in honor of Michelle Duggar, the reality TV star who has 19 children.

On Planet D there's no such thing as overpopulation. The world has infinite space and, more importantly, infinite resources. News of the planet's existence only came to public attention when Michelle Duggar did a web interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network this week. In the interview she disclosed that the world she's living on does not suffer from overpopulation. She further indicated that on Planet D having more children always equals "more joy." Although she did not elaborate, hunger and extreme poverty apparently do not exist on Planet D. Nor do such things as climate change and water scarcity.

Meanwhile back on Planet Earth, nearly 3000 scientists earlier this week gathered in London for a "Planet under Pressure" conference aimed at finding solutions to vexing global problems, including climate change and the challenge of feeding another 2.3 billion people by 2050. Oddly, the conference devoted little or no discussion to the discovery of Planet D. Nor was Michelle Duggar invited to address the conference.

Like the now-debunked news that neutrinos exceeded the speed of light, you would think that the reported discovery of a world with infinite resources would have forced the scientists at the "Planet under Pressure' conference to revisit their calculations and assumptions. If Planet D knows no material bounds, maybe our own planet has infinite resources, a boundless capacity for absorbing carbon emissions, and no practical limits to food production. Maybe all the concerns about one billion people living in extreme poverty are overstated. For that matter, maybe the rapid extinction of plants and animals that scientists are calling the "Sixth Mass Extinction," is just a statistical fluke, an aberration on the road to a world in which creatures great and small will live in ever expanding numbers, abundance and harmony.

Michelle Duggar, of course, is not the only Earthling living on Planet D. Judging by the relative lack of press attention devoted to this week's "Planet under Pressure" conferene and the high ratings received by 19 Kids and Counting, it seems likely that there are many among us who are living on Planet D and largely oblivious to the challenges facing Planet Earth. People would much rather watch the exploits of Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar and their 19 children, than the human travails of large families trying to stay alive in drought-stricken Somalia.

Indeed, all of us probably spend more time on Planet D than we care to admit. Few of us have the time, energy, or interest to do anything about the world's problems. But public indifference notwithstanding, the scientists at this week's London conference issued a declaration that contained the following warning:

Research now demonstrates that the continued functioning of the Earth system as it has supported the well-being of human civilization in recent centuries is at risk. Without urgent action, we could face threats to water, food, biodiversity and other critical resources: these threats risk intensifying economic, ecological and social crises, creating the potential for a humanitarian emergency on a global scale.

Let's hope that Michelle Duggar knows vastly more about population and resources than all those scientists.

 
We now have a new planet to add to the growing list of Earth-like planets that are being discovered by astronomers. Let's call it Planet D in honor of Michelle Duggar, the reality TV star who has 19 ...
We now have a new planet to add to the growing list of Earth-like planets that are being discovered by astronomers. Let's call it Planet D in honor of Michelle Duggar, the reality TV star who has 19 ...
 
 
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iflew
Pro Publiae Bonae
12:09 AM on 04/05/2012
Mathus never anticipated the pollution problem. People have learned to use greenhouses as well as open fields, and generated more productive crops, fertilizers are more effective, and crops are protected from natural enemies. Food production has increased.

Pollution has increased and where it may go we don't yet know. Frack this, frack that. There is a dead zone of about 8,000 Sq. Miles and growing at the end of the Mississippi River Delta. Rivers around the world are polluted and Russia has lost most of its Sturgeons. Bird have had empty nests because their shells have not held together, and the world's bee population is endangered. Bees polinate food crops. Without food crops humans become the endangered species.
03:49 PM on 04/03/2012
There are six billion plus people on the planet and someone takes the time to single out the Duggars? They are a self-sufficient and self-supporting/loving family. Was the world better off before the Duggars? Of course not! There are islands of garbage floating in our oceans, China has an increasing demand for automobiles and genocide is being practiced in parts of the African continent. Lets keep things in perspecitve shall we? The Duggars should be the least of your worries. #recycleANDrenew
mothergrace
If they knock you down, bite 'em on the ankle.
11:19 PM on 04/03/2012
People who think as the Duggars do, that you can do what you want regardless, are part of the problem.
11:29 PM on 04/03/2012
For your information, there are now seven billion people on this planet and counting.
07:15 PM on 04/05/2012
And? How many dogs, roaches, cows, mosquitos etc? Every creature contributes in some way be it negative or postive to this planet. If you are so worried about overpopulation then why stop at humans?
I mean what do you want? A war, plague, meteor attack? I still say worry about your own breeding and leave the Duggars alone. They take care of those they bring into this world unlike some people.
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CMarks
11:33 AM on 04/03/2012
Actually if they're paying for them I guess I don't much care about their litter. However, if something happens to the male member (no pun intended) of this baby factory and these kids end up on Social Security and the family on public assistance then I might rethink my opinion.
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Cassandra L Chapa
05:15 PM on 04/10/2012
I read that every one of their children has a job and contributes to the family's expenses...the dad isn't the sole breadwinner.
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CMarks
05:54 PM on 04/10/2012
No doubt and I'll bet that the older children are responsible for the younger ones because there are certainly too many for mom to take care of especially since she is alway pregnant.
09:27 AM on 04/02/2012
I often wondered how she can afford all those kids. Aside from being a celebrity, what does she do for money? How is she going to send all those kids to college? Where does she get the money to feed them? By my estimate, her weekly grocery bill should be well over $500/week. How does she find the money to hire the folks she needs to do the cooking and cleaning and child care for all those kids? I just do not understand.....never mind that the whole idea of having so many children is selfish and dangerous.
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MissFrijole
My bite is worse than my bark.
10:54 AM on 04/02/2012
Well, first off, she won't send her kids to college because that would mean they would learn about the REAL world. Colleges are too secular for that family, even if they went to a private Christian school. Also, she has her entire brood of female children to help with the cooking and cleaning, while the boys run amuk and do whatever they want. Her oldest son has already started propagating his own family. They are like rabbits. As the children marry off, they will have their own little army eventually. Apparently, they own a series of rental properties, which is how they afford to feed all those mouths. I agree with you that it is selfish and dangerous. It makes me not want to have kids, ever.
03:54 PM on 04/03/2012
Obviously you have never seen their show. All of the kids, male and female, help around the home and Mr. and Mrs. Duggar have their own family business so they have never been on public assistance. What difference does it make if a man marries and has 19 kids versus being single and impregnating random females then abadoning his seed?
What is selfish about marrying, having kids and watching your children grow up and have their own families? Humans have been doing this since day 1 along with every other species on the planet. For those of you taking issue with the Duggars, how about you get sterilized and then you can remove yourself from the equation of human reproduction and so called vanquishing resources.
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silverwolf13
I know that I do not know.
09:38 PM on 04/03/2012
We live on a finite planet. It can support only a finite number of humans and other animals. Most animals have predators that keep their numbers in balance, but we humans have done away with most of our predators and now reproduce without limit. But we still live on a finite planet.
02:21 AM on 04/02/2012
Mother Nature has a way of dealing with most population issues...Man might just end-up at her mercy, because we have surely messed-up the balance on this little globe.

I see Michelle Duggar as a dreamer, out of touch with reality, selfish, irresponsible. Pretty much right up there with Octomom...with the exception that at least she has a husband.
10:38 PM on 04/01/2012
Let's do the math..... Michelle and Jim Bob have:
19 children....if they each have 19 children, M & JB will have:
361 grand children....if they each have 19 children, M & JB will have:
6,859 great-grand children.... if they each have 19 children..............
130,321 great-great-grand children....if they each have 19 children...
2,476,099 great-great-great-grand children....................................
In five generations, there would be 2,613,659 direct decendents from Michelle and Jim Bob.
Now, what if just one billion people were to start reproducing like this............because "the world needs more joy"..................Soylent Green anyone?
03:58 PM on 04/03/2012
Great, now lets see the math on your family tree and everyone else on this board. Many of you probably have kids, siblings, cousins, grandparents etc and some of you men have probably made babies and don't know it because you "hit it and quit it" as they say. Worry about your own contributions to the planet before you judge someone else. The Duggars have no impact on my personal life and they seem to be a happy and self-sufficient family so I see no reason for anyone to put them down.
How many chidren are in Osama Bin Laden's family and what are their views on Western Civilization? That's who you ought to worry about. As far as I know, the Duggars aren't wishing death to the infidels and planning terrorist attacks every chance they get.
mothergrace
If they knock you down, bite 'em on the ankle.
11:26 PM on 04/03/2012
The Duggars may not be wishing death to the infidels but they are aligned with the people who are busy legislating against every one else's right to family planning and choice.

In the long run, a world run by those of the Duggar mentality would be as locusts and do far more damage than any so-called terrorists.
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12:25 AM on 04/04/2012
Michelle?
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BluePhantom2
The Blacksmith & the Artist reflected in their art
08:08 PM on 04/01/2012
The 0 pop crowd is always so cheery! They fail to see that the globe is huge and can support at least 20 billion (Which is about twice as high as it will get) before space becomes an issue. Water is another issue but if managed correctly also can be handled. As to C02 I call BS as it is just the latest vehicle the 0 pop and 1 Worlders are using to bring on global governance. Our enginuity will prevail as long as the "Never let a good crisis go to waste" crowd isn't left in charge for too long.
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MissFrijole
My bite is worse than my bark.
10:56 AM on 04/02/2012
Pull down that blinder over your eyes a little bit farther. Just ignore the fact that we are entering a global crisis on multiple levels.
02:47 PM on 04/02/2012
so I guess we don't need land for food, livestock and resources.........interesting
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Tomtom2
SomeOligarchs need a good old fashion Vulcan Pinch
01:07 PM on 04/01/2012
It's very refreshing to see an article confronting the sacred cow of overpopulation. Even some liberals and environmental advocates don't get it when it comes to overpopulation. Can't think of any human made environmental problem that isn't related to overpopulation. As important as this topic is, you would think HP would have a section just for this.
10:16 PM on 04/01/2012
Tomtom2.......Thank you....I thought I was alone when it came to the subject of overpopulation. When I started college back in the late 60's, we had to read the book: The Population Bomb by Dr. Paul Erlich. It described everything that is happening today and advocated a max of 2 children per family to stabilize the earth's population. Unfortunately, fundamentalist religious groups, Christian, Muslim, Judism, etc. all demand large families of their followers.
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Tomtom2
SomeOligarchs need a good old fashion Vulcan Pinch
11:55 PM on 04/02/2012
That's the same time (late 60's) in my life, when I moved to San Francisco, that I was exposed to the ticking time bomb of over population. I guess only in San Francisco did they put everything on the table. It just seemed to disappear after that. I always wondered why. I know exactly what you're saying about being alone on this topic.
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jhr459
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02:31 PM on 04/04/2012
there is also an ironic double edge sword at play here as well (and I know I am going to get it from the RW conservatives), but the very groups that encourage large families, tend to be...uh..not so...uh..high up on the intelligence spectrum.
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Robert Frano
‘Plausible Deniability’: NOT A FAMILY_VALUE!!
11:40 AM on 04/01/2012
Re: "Indeed, all of us probably spend more time on Planet D than we care to admit..."

While my former religious-faith concept, (The R.C.C.), has invited me to planet 'D', I have declined;
...many times over decades past!
I received a vasectomy, (…w/o previous reproduction) in the mid 90's, back before it was a felony to employ / provide health insurance to (American) citizens.
This is considered a world class ‘crime', (against humanity), in R.C.C.-hierarchal / social circles
Between the vasectomy & masturbation, another alleged ‘human species threat’ (according to a republican assistant to Delaware's democratic state senatorial effort, Christine O’Donnell), and my support for woman’s health & marriage equality, many more threats to the human condition, according to allegedly ‘straight’ public pietists, (whose failures in modern times include buggery & money laundering allegations), I’m just a walking advertisement for dreaded secular humanists!

…However will human civilization live?
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01:27 PM on 04/01/2012
Robert, why can't more men be like you?
CognitoErgoSum
CogitoErgoSum was taken when I signed up.
02:00 AM on 04/02/2012
Because if there were more men like him (vasectomized w/o reproduction), they'd all die out.

But yes, it would be nice if more men were of the dispostion to see overpopulation as a problem and who support the positions he supports.
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silverwolf13
I know that I do not know.
09:57 PM on 04/03/2012
I am also a former Roman Catholic. I left the church because I realized that it would not recognize my daughter as a full human being, elligible for the priesthood.

We must consider the ability of the earth to support the needs of a human population that wants to eat a decent diet. We are now at 7 billion, headed fast for 9 billion by midcentury, and many more beyond. How shall we all eat?
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Robert Frano
‘Plausible Deniability’: NOT A FAMILY_VALUE!!
04:01 PM on 04/04/2012
Re: "I left the church because I realized that it would not recognize my daughter as a full human being, elligible for the priesthood...We are now at 7 billion, headed fast for 9 billion by midcentury, and many more beyond. How shall we all eat?" {silverwolf13}

My ‘short’ answer, (NOT to be confused with ‘short ribs’), to that horrendous issue is...

Cannibalism.
While that is a slightly flippant way to acknowledge it, DON’T think for a minute that cannibalism won’t occur...
All it will take is enough people, being hungry enough, often enough!

Humans are obligate omnivores, which is just a fancy way of noting that we’ll eat anything that doesn’t eat us...first!
That is NOT to suggest that I find cannibalism funny/approve of eating one’s fellow
‘Homo.Sapiens.Egotisticae’, (‘Egotistical Man', in arm-chair cladistic-classification-terms).

I was watching the idiot-box last night, (aka, 'TV'), and a discussion-participant mentioned that 'ONLY' 9-10 million children, (...age 0-5, approximately), now starve to death EACH year;
...noting what a ‘fantastic improvement’ such a 'holocaust-like' statistic actually is!
I agree!
The statistics have improved dramatically, despite what appears to be an attempt to cover the earth with excessive human organisms, like a 'Sherwin-Williams' paint logo!

Witness the late Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu, (aka, ‘Mother Teresa’), & her amoral-papal-admirer, J. Paul-2, both of whom commented, incessantly, on how ‘contraception’ is some sort of threat to human-kind!

...If only!
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see-ellen2001
11:38 AM on 04/01/2012
Should we look at overpopulation globally? Or regionally? Certain areas of the world have birth rates lower than death rates hence needing immigration from other countries. If one country has exceptionally 'high' birth rates, should a country on the other side of the world have to restrict their birth rate? Reminds me of the concern over carbon emissions; developing countries commented that since the West overdid it with emissions, then turned to developing countries and their industries and essentially sad 'now that we have mucked up the environment, you have to also stop developing your industry to combat pollution'. This not a comment on the Duggars and their family, just a reflection on this discussion.
CognitoErgoSum
CogitoErgoSum was taken when I signed up.
02:04 AM on 04/02/2012
So the developing feels it's a privilege to burden the environment that they should be denied, just because the West "got" to do it? Developing countries now get the opportunity to learn from the West's mistakes along the way and develop their economies in ways that are more environmentally sustainable to begin with, rather than fight entrenchment like we do.
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silverwolf13
I know that I do not know.
10:00 PM on 04/03/2012
The poorer countries will simply export their excess population to the richer countries, as they are doing now.
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cobraxus
Defend The Innocent_Protect The Weak
11:33 AM on 04/01/2012
perhaps she and Sen.Inhofe could form a 2 person truth squad and travel the country spreading the good news.
11:19 AM on 04/01/2012
You know most of you people condemn the Duggars for the size of their family and their choice in having as many kids as God will bless them with. I can tell you not one of those babies has ever had to been weaned off of crack or heroin or treated as a "mistake" never having been wanted in this world.
They will all grow up with a good education and along the way will not have become gang members or wonder the streets at 3 am. Looking for trouble. No they will grow up to be productive hard working members of society, filling skilled jobs or better yet become business owners creating more jobs for other Americans.
I would any day take a million Duggar style, family value kids, than some other families who have child after child just so they can claim a bigger welfare check to suit their selfish habits, while not caring or loving the kids they bring into this world and not in the least worried where their kids are at 3 am or how many times the end up in juvenal detention or behind bars! I wonder how many records those older Duggar kids have? Probably a few for sports but none for breaking any laws.
This is exactly what America has lost and needs to regain her position in the world as manufactoring powerhouse. And kids like the Duggars filling those position are America only hope to regain her former glory.
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Tomtom2
SomeOligarchs need a good old fashion Vulcan Pinch
01:14 PM on 04/01/2012
Not sure why you don't understand what this article is about. It's not about "family values". It's about overpopulation.
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phal4875
The world is run by cats; we just feed them.
02:17 PM on 04/01/2012
Your argument seems to be that people should have nineteen children as long as the kids are not criminals. Unless they are very wealthy, it is unlikely that the Duggars will be able to send all nineteen to college without government help. It is also a situation that is unsustainable for a world that is already overpopulated.
03:42 PM on 04/02/2012
They do not want to send their kids to college, because college would "corrupt" them. The only education they get is that which is Gothardite approved. Their girls will be married off to whomever their father approves of (and several of them won't even get this--they will be relegated to being "stay at home daughters" to care for Michelle's brood, since she doesn't do so herself).
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mlaiuppa
Pres. Sarcasm Society. Like we need your approval.
03:42 AM on 04/01/2012
I wouldn't put much store in the blatherings of someone whose career is to be barefoot, pregnant and $tup¡d. Did she even graduate from high school?

Michelle Duggar is the poster child for the excesses, greed, selfishness and oblivion that infects this country. She thinks being devout to her faith is some sort of excuse for her family to consume way more than their share of a finite resource. That means she must dismiss the idea that resources are finite. What would you expect from someone that lives off the charity of others. Until they got their TV show they made themselves ministers, applied for tax exempt status and begged for money on their "church" website. All to support their family and pay for their house.

Personally I'm offended that TLC would enable the excesses of the Duggars by giving them a TV show. I don't understand why people would watch it or sponsors buy advertising time on it.
CognitoErgoSum
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02:07 AM on 04/02/2012
Well, you can do what the public did with Rush Limbaugh and Don Imus; contact the show's sponsors and say you will boycott them until they drop their ads from the Duggar's show. When the sho no longer makes money and TLC risks losing subscriptions over it, they may drop the show. It's the free market, baby!
09:43 AM on 04/02/2012
First, I am no fan of the Duggar family, which has no understanding of the world's population problem. But, to be fair, they ARE wealthy, self-supporting people. Before they had the show, Jim and Michelle launched several successful businesses, including a car dealership; they also own several commercial real estate parcels and a cell phone tower, which generates a ton of income.

My issue with them is that they have too many children to give any one of them the time or attention they need as individuals. Instead, they have the older children raising the younger ones. They also rely on a narrow, religious based, home schooling method that presents a limited and biased view of the world, which will NOT prepare those kids to do anything except run the parents' businesses. As far as paying for college? Forget it. Those kids aren't allowed to do anything except online programs.

Granted, the kids are not drug addicts, drop outs, or thieves. But, sadly, they are living in a small, delusional bubble that is as far removed from reality as I have ever seen. For their sake, I hope the business income and reality TV money continue indefinitely, because I don't see any other way these 19 kids will ever be self-supporting.

JMO
03:39 PM on 04/02/2012
I'd like to know how much of the NICU bill they paid for their most recent child. That would go a long way to proving how "self-supporting" they are.

I bet the tax payers are on the hook for that one.
02:39 AM on 04/01/2012
"Judging by the relative lack of press attention devoted to this week's "Planet under Pressure" conference"
Who wants to hear about our future which will be Easter Island on a large scale ?
Unfortunately, human beings are short term thinkers. And which politician would want to campaign on saving the ressources and living more green when citizens just want to hear about growing economy and getting wealthier.
Dinosaurs became extinct and the earth went on. I guess it will be the same after our extinction.
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Carla van der Meer
in scientia opportunatis
10:40 PM on 03/31/2012
It appears that TLC also believes in Planet D as well. The Duggars aren't the only over sized brood that they trot out for profit. I'm not sure what the fascination is. Personally I find it irresponsible to keep adding to the burden on this planet, but I guess Mrs. Duggar and her ilk are happy in their denail of facts.
03:36 PM on 04/02/2012
The Litter Channel.
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Carla van der Meer
in scientia opportunatis
12:16 PM on 04/03/2012
That is awesome and you are hilarious !