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I Love Ellen Barkin But...

Posted: 07/11/2012 7:34 am

On a recent Sunday in The New York Times, I was quoted in an article written by Ruth La Ferla, about stylish women from ages 60 to 100. The article included photographs of 3 women who were pale, wore red lipstick, hats and bold accessories.

That brought to mind an article from O Magazine where Ellen Barkin lists 10 rules for life after 50. Ellen Barkin has always been one of my favorite actresses and I always thought of her as a pretty cool woman, so it was really surprising to read about her fashion don'ts after 50.

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According to Ms. Barkin these women are over the expiration date of good taste. They managed to break at least four of her outdated rules simultaneously. At least they fared better than I ... out of her 10 rules; I have broken almost every one of them.

Personal style is a great form of self-expression and one doesn't need money to achieve one's goals. My favorite hobby is perusing flea markets and thrift shops. Shoppers beware; I once had to open an antique store just to clear out my apartment! Style is instinctual, not a set of rules.

When I worked in the fashion office of I. Magnin, in the 70's, I was lucky to work with visiting fashion editor, Mary Russell. Mary is the former fashion editor for Elle and Vogue and worked under Diana Vreeland at Vogue. Diana Vreeland was the most important style icon of our time and would have been horrified by the Barkin rules. She started her career as a fashion editor at Harpers Bazaar and then Vogue. Her most important and successful career change came at age 69 when she was hired to be the curator of the Costume Institute at the Metropolitan Museum.

In Lisa Immordino Vreeland's book, Diana Vreeland: The Eye Has to Travel, she describes Richard Avedon's eulogy at Ms. Vreeland's funeral: "Diana lived for imagination ruled by discipline and created a totally new profession. She invented the fashion editor. Before her, it was society ladies who put hats on other society ladies," he reportedly said. That is how it was at I. Magnin. Everyone who worked in the fashion office, except for me, was part of San Francisco's society. Mary Russell offers a great quote: "Women look best and feel best when their clothes are not the uniform of the moment but part of themselves." When I was working in fashion I paid attention to what was in and what was out. Now, I like being oblivious, it's liberating and creative. What dictates my purchases now comes from me.

Today, one great visual example of Mary's statement is Iris Apfel, 91, the face of Mac Cosmetics, often described as a "geriatric glamazon" and a self-described "geriatric starlet." Another rule breaker, Ms. Apfel has more one-liners than Henny Youngman, and a wardrobe rivaled by none, from which she generously donated 900 pieces to the Peabody Essex Museum. Watch and listen closely to this video from her exhibit a few years ago at the Museum. "It ain't what you do, but the way that you do it."- Iris Apfel

I was visiting my 87-year-old mother a few weeks ago, and she was rocking her newly grown-out white hair. "Your father wants me to grow my hair long," she told me. Great, I said, and asked her how she felt about that. She just looked at me and said incredulously, "I can't grow my hair long, I'm too old!" I looked at her and responded, "There is no such thing as too old."

60 is looking younger everyday. Ms. Barkin, rules are made to be broken.

EARLIER ON HUFF/POST50: 25 CELEBS WHO ARE AGING GRACEFULLY

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  • Diane Keaton

    The actress told Huff/Post50 that <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/diane-keaton-on_n_1235294.html" target="_hplink">with age has come more clarity and focus</a> -- attributes she said she didn't necessarily have in her 20s and 30s. "I think it gets more difficult as you get older because you're facing the end and endings are ... unbearable. Our lives are basically about facing that tragedy. And I think the sooner we face that we're going to die, the easier it is to appreciate the moments in life... When we realize that our lives will end, we take less for granted. That is what I've learned from loss. The whole thing is a fantastic mystery so all we can do is appreciate each moment."

  • Susan Sarandon

    When it comes to aging and beauty, <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/23/susan-sarandon-latest-role_n_1370618.html" target="_hplink">Sarandon takes an admirable "to-each-their-own" mentality</a>, telling <em>The Independent</em> she would never weigh-in on what people do to make themselves happy. Her best advice? Sarandon<a href="http://inyourface.ocregister.com/2008/05/16/susan-sarandon-says-women-can-change-their-bodies-however-they-want-to/" target="_hplink"> has said:</a> "The only thing I'd say is that learning how to forgive yourself for not being perfect is probably a really positive step."

  • Tina Turner

    The legendary crooner has a straightforward, make-no-apologies take on age. "That number doesn't mean a thing," <a href="http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20198482,00.html" target="_hplink">she told Oprah in 2008.</a> "It just doesn't."

  • Clint Eastwood

    "I think you have to enjoy getting older. That's the most important factor. If you sit around and think, 'Well, at 21, I was doing this,' or 'at 31' -- or what have you ..." Eastwood <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/27/60II/main596292.shtml" target="_hplink">told CBS news</a> back in 1997. "A lot of people maybe do their best work when they're 40 and then tail off. But I think that's a mental attitude. I've done my best work, I think, now," he said.

  • Helen Mirren

    Modesty and a healthy dose of humor are keys to Mirren aging so gracefully. When a gym recently gave her Body of the Year, she <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2035272/Helen-Mirren-left-blushing-The-View-hosts-admire-Body-Year-THAT-bikini.html" target="_hplink">told the women of The View</a> that she just sucked in her stomach. "It was a beautiful thing that these fitness people did, I have to say," she said. "I think it was recognition of the fact that you don't have to be perfect."

  • Sheryl Crow

    The cancer survivor <a href="http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20411904,00.html" target="_hplink">told Health.com</a> that she is enjoying the aging process: "I definitely am embracing aging. When you shoot your face with Botox and stuff, you rob yourself of your ability to have youthful expressions, and that's why sometimes people look a lot older."

  • Sting

    In addition to maintaining a healthy love life with his wife Trudie Styler, the musician throws himself into yoga and embraces a positive outlook on life, <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/story/2011-09-28/sting-at-60/50594354/1" target="_hplink">telling <em>USA Today</em>:</a> "When you reach a certain age, you realize that life is finite. You can be depressed by that, or you can say, 'I'm going to appreciate every minute to its maximum potential.'"

  • Kim Cattrall

    "I consider 50 to be young. People are living so much longer, and besides, I don't think I look 50. I take really great care of myself," the actress told <a href="http://www.blackbookmag.com/nightlife/kim-cattrall-waves-goodbye-to-the-city-but-not-to-the-sex-in-meet-1.23372" target="_hplink"><em>BlackBook</em> magazine.</a> Which is not to say Cattrall's afraid of her wrinkles. According to <a href="http://www.blackbookmag.com/nightlife/kim-cattrall-waves-goodbye-to-the-city-but-not-to-the-sex-in-meet-1.23372" target="_hplink">BlackBook,</a>when the actress was asked if she wanted to have some photos heavily retouched she said, "F*** it. Leave it all in."

  • Iman

    When it comes to aging well, the stunning supermodel embraces kindness in its many forms. "For me, skin care rituals are a form of meditation -- they keep me balanced. I am kind to my skin. I remove my makeup as soon as I get home and I apply moisturizer," <a href="http://www.oprah.com/style/Bobbi-Brown-Laura-Mercier-and-Imans-Beauty-Secrets/2" target="_hplink">she told<em> O, The Oprah Magazine.</em> </a> "But just as important as being kind to my skin is being kind to younger women," <a href="http://www.oprah.com/style/Bobbi-Brown-Laura-Mercier-and-Imans-Beauty-Secrets/2" target="_hplink">she continued.</a> "Kindness is a lovely quality to nurture as you get older. It makes you feel good about yourself."

  • Meryl Streep

    Often known as <em>the</em> great actress, Streep has embraced her age -- and recently being a rom-com leading lady -- with admirable glee. "I'm 60, and I'm playing the romantic lead! Bette Davis is rolling over in her grave!" <a href="http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2009/11/cover-story-preview-leslie-bennetts-on-meryl-streep" target="_hplink">she joked with <em>Vanity Fair</em> in 2009.</a>

  • Julianne Moore

    <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/12/julianne-moore-whats-her-secret_n_1271344.html" target="_hplink">Julianne Moore is a natural beauty</a>, and plans to remain one. When asked about Botox, Moore <a href="http://www.allure.com/celebrity-trends/cover-shoot/2010/julianne_moore#slide=1" target="_hplink">told <em>Allure</em> magazine</a> that she, herself, is not a fan. "I hate to condemn people for doing it, but I don't believe it makes people look better. I think it just makes them look like they had something done to their face," she told the magazine. "When you look at somebody who's had their face altered in some way, it just looks weird."

  • Denzel Washington

    The actor has been refreshingly candid about both his accomplishments and his struggles as he ages. <a href="http://www.rd.com/family/denzel-washington-interview-devoted/3/" target="_hplink">When <em>Reader's Digest</em> asked</a> him what one thing he'd change about himself, he answered: "My weight! Mind, body and spirit. It's a discipline, and the body has been lagging. Mind's really good right now. Spirit is strong, but body's been lagging. And the body helps the mind. I feel better today having worked out."

  • Michelle Pfeiffer

    Pfeiffer is measured, but honest about how growing older makes her feel. "Honestly, there's certainly a mourning that takes place," <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/27/entertainment/et-pfeiffer27" target="_hplink">told the<em> Los Angeles Times</em> in 2009.</a> "I mourn the young girl, but I think that what replaces that is a kind of a liberation, sort of letting go of having to hold on to that. Everyone knows you're 50. So you don't have to worry about not trying to look 50."

  • Angelica Huston

    "This great fear of laugh lines and wrinkles and getting old is really unnatural. It happens to the best of us -- what are we going to do? It's a matter of whether you want to go to war with that and have surgery,"<a href="http://www.ivillage.co.uk/cosmetic-surgery-what-the-stars-say/80403" target="_hplink"> the actress told iVillage UK. </a> "Ultimately it's a slippery slope. I think you wind up looking like a thing rather than a younger version of yourself. I think you have to make peace with what you have and keep it all in order," <a href="http://www.ivillage.co.uk/cosmetic-surgery-what-the-stars-say/80403" target="_hplink">she continued.</a>

  • Pierce Brosnan

    After being dropped as James Bond because, according to some reports, he was "too old" for the role, the actor had a positive take on things -- embracing the unknown with gusto. "Oh, it turned out very lucky," he told <a href="http://www.parade.com/articles/editions/2008/edition_06-15-2008/1Pierce_Brosnan" target="_hplink"><em>Parade</em>.</a> "Within the space of the punch and the pain of being passed over or rejected or the bottom of your world falling out, within that same breath came this liberation of, 'I'm free. I can do anything I want.' It's up to me to have the guts to make the next stage of my career as interesting and as exciting and unexpected as possible."

  • Sigourney Weaver

    "Actors' faces have to move," <a href="http://http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/BeautySecrets/story?id=4713043&page=1 " target="_hplink">Weaver once told ABC,</a> weighing in on cosmetic surgery. "It's a personal choice. It depends on what you want. Yes, we probably want to see perfect people, too, but we also want to see people who look like us. It's just about skin care to me and maybe exercise." And her laugh lines? "I've earned them," Weaver said.

  • Bruce Springsteen

    <a href="http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/23/the-boss-turns-60/" target="_hplink"><em>AARP</em> magazine put The Boss</a> on its cover when he turned 60 a few years back, because the editors believed he exemplified aging well. "He's one of these crop of 50-plus and 60-plus celebrities who are busier than ever in their older years and doing some of their best work," editor Nancy Perry Graham <a href="http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/23/the-boss-turns-60/" target="_hplink">told <em>The New York Times.</em> </a>"The message with Bruce Springsteen is that 60 rocks."

  • Lauren Hutton

    <a href="http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/beauty/news-features/TMG5010697/Lauren-Hutton-forty-years-on-a-model-for-us-all.html" target="_hplink">According to <em>The Telegraph</em>,</a> the beauty loves her changing beauty, believing it reflects a rich life. "Our wrinkles are our medals of the passage of life," <a href="http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/beauty/news-features/TMG5010697/Lauren-Hutton-forty-years-on-a-model-for-us-all.html" target="_hplink">she said.</a> "They are what we have been through and who we want to be."

  • Emma Thompson

    The British actress has said that she, personally, is all about aging naturally. "I'm not fiddling about with myself,"<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/8700007/Kate-Winslet-Cosmetic-surgery-goes-against-my-morals.html" target="_hplink"> she told <em>The Telegraph.</em></a> "We're in this awful youth-driven thing now where everybody needs to look 30 at 60."

  • Jamie Lee Curtis

    The actress has been open about embracing her age-related changes, famously posing for a magazine shoot sans clothes and sans Photoshop. But she's equally candid about how building self-confidence is a gradual process -- one that's gotten easier as she has aged. "I feel much more authentic," <a href="http://www.more.com/news/womens-issues/jamie-lee-curtis-growing-older-wiser?page=5" target="_hplink">she once told <em>More</em> magazine.</a> "I'm not saying I'm a spiritually perfect person. I'm flawed and contradictory and fraught in many areas. But I'm better. I'm growing, and that's all I really want.

  • Isabella Rossellini

    "In interviews, the first question I get in America is always: 'What do you do to stay young?'" <a href="http://www.oprah.com/spirit/Isabella-Rossellinis-Aha-Moment" target="_hplink">Rossellini told <em>O, The Oprah Magazine.</em></a> "I do nothing. I don't think aging is a problem ... I'm so surprised that the emphasis on aging here is on physical decay, when aging brings such incredible freedom. Now what I want most is laughs. I don't want to hurt anybody by laughing -- there is no meanness to it. I just want to laugh."

  • Diane Lane

    Lane <a href="http://www.glamour.com/magazine/2008/09/gorgeous-at-any-age-diane-lane" target="_hplink">told <em>Glamour</em> magazine</a> that aging has given her welcome perspective. "I wouldn't go back to being 20. Because here's the thing ... there is something wonderful about coming to terms with time -- that it is finite," <a href="http://www.glamour.com/magazine/2008/09/gorgeous-at-any-age-diane-lane" target="_hplink">she said.</a> "You want to have as much joy in your life as possible, and you take responsibility for your own joy."

  • Antonio Banderas

    "I do yoga every morning, then I run for half an hour and take a sauna," <a href="http://www.aarp.org/entertainment/movies-for-grownups/info-09-2011/antonio-banderas.html" target="_hplink">the actor told AARP magazine of his healthy-aging routine.</a> "And I eat properly. I drink a lot of white tea -- it's a very powerful antioxidant.

  • Betty White

    Though people look to her as one of the top models of aging well, the actress said she's never given it much thought. "I never thought about age much," <a href="http://www.aarp.org/entertainment/television/info-05-2011/aarp-goes-hollywood-with-betty-white.html" target="_hplink">Betty told <em>AARP</em> magazine. </a>"I learned that at my mother's knee. Age was not important. It was where your head was."

  • Annette Bening

    The writer-director of <em>The Kids Are All Right</em> said she cast Bening in part because she wanted someone who was real and who would not shy away from showing her age on screen. "We never had a wrinkle conversation," <a href="http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/annette-bening%E2%80%99s-wrinkles-and-lesbian-sex-scenes-22617" target="_hplink">she told <em>The Wrap.</em></a> "I just said, 'I want the make-up to be super-modest,' and that was the end of it."

 

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On a recent Sunday in The New York Times, I was quoted in an article written by Ruth La Ferla, about stylish women from ages 60 to 100. The article included photographs of 3 women who were pale, wore ...
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OldHick
02:08 PM on 08/28/2012
Well, anything to stay in the limelight. There is always Cameron.
03:12 AM on 07/18/2012
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01:44 PM on 07/17/2012
I can identify with some of Barkins rules but not all. She is still very beautiful, but I think that it's important to find your own personal style. I'm 49 and want to look great for my age, so I know I will not be sporting mini skirts anymore. As a fashion show coordinator for 18 years, many 50 plus ladies would express to me that todays trends seem to be geared for younger women. Many of todays fashions are sleeveless or to low cut or the dresses are to short. The 50 plus customer wants to look sophisticated not dowdy or matronly. Another big concern when it came to dresses is "why are the majority of dresses sleeveless, especially cocktail dresses". How do you cover up flabby arms and still look chic ? Check out www.sleeves2go.com for the perfect alternative. They are detachable sleeves that snap on to your bra strap and look great under any sleeveless garment. It's the perfect solution when you don't want to cover up that pretty dress with a shrug or wrap. I call it wardrobing made easy ! Don't be afraid to possess your own style !
06:11 AM on 07/16/2012
Long hair is tricky for us older gals (I'm 51). If you do that too long porn star thing it doesn't work. If you keep it a reasonable length and in a current style then it can rock.
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04:15 PM on 07/14/2012
I notice Barkin didn't mention plastic surgery. She is known to have had many facial surgeries. So I think the women over 50 should disregard her silly rules. Who made her the arbiter of good taste in aging. Do what makes you feel great.
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abolishinsanity
01:20 AM on 07/14/2012
Don't pay any attention to Ellen Barkin's so-called "rules," she's still wearing frosted lipstick a la Angie Dickensen from "Policewoman" that went out of date in the sixties! (And it was ugly even then!)
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demisfine
Often correct, NEVER right.
03:16 PM on 07/19/2012
Didn't she undergo a massive transformation for a film in the 80s???
I can't remember which role it was, but she was transformed from a serious actress into a siren by some designer or producer.
No one could believe THAT was Ellen Barkin.
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Sunflo
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11:33 AM on 07/13/2012
Love these tips from this 98 yr old lady:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ari-cohen/life-and-style-tips-from-_b_872276.html
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10:20 AM on 07/13/2012
Do we all want to look the same? Fashion "rules" tend to take out the individuality that is your style. No rules for me.
09:49 AM on 07/13/2012
Oh noeess!!! 10 out of the 20 old foggies in that slideshow have hair past their shoulders! What were they thinking!! I mean, just look at Michelle Pfeiffer. The horror!
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Anne Siperek
05:48 AM on 07/13/2012
My eyes cant make out what the list is - but I can still see Ellen and she looks a beautiful as ever....! LOL -
07:11 PM on 07/12/2012
Good rebuttal article concerning Ellen Barkin's over 50 style tips. Personal style is just that...personal. Need to find what works for you.
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Yellowcab
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05:12 PM on 07/12/2012
Dont agree with the short hair. Short hair says old lady.
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Sunflo
Leave a mark, not a stain.
11:15 AM on 07/13/2012
Unless you're Halle Berry or someone who can pull off a pixie/ bob. Too long, hair in poor condition (and in a braid sometimes) says old cat lady. I've known people like this and they're comfortable I guess and it's their choice but IF they asked for my advice I'd tell them to get rid of it.
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Yellowcab
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02:15 PM on 07/13/2012
Crappy hair is crappy hair, long or short.

That being said, Lauren Hutton, Farrah Fawcett, Christie Brinkley, Stevie Nicks, Meryl Streep and many others pull off longer hair in style - they have the personality to pull it off.

The thing is - being ruled by rigid "age appropriate" rules with everyone in compliance and looking alike just screams old, old, old.

Ellen Barkin could pull off having longer hair, easily, instead of that implacable helmet she's sporting in the picture.

Being happy inside, being loving inside, having good intentions inside is what makes anyone beautiful at any age, while being ugly inside makes anyone ugly at any age.

As always - it's what's inside that counts.
11:01 AM on 07/12/2012
When I think of fashion icons, I really don't think of Ellen Barkin. Not that she isn't beautiful or classy, she is, but has fashion ever been her game? Her advice of not wearing strapless, but "rocking the bikini" is ridiculous. Better advice is that by 50, you should know your own body and your own style. Wear it proudly. Hair long or short, exposed arms or legs. Life is too short to worry if you're a hot mess or not.
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littlewitch
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12:33 PM on 07/12/2012
When you wear a strapless dress you are calling attention to your decolete in particular, which on most women over 50 is not faring that well especially if there has been a history of sunbathing or tanning.

When you are at the beach and wearing a bikini you are calling attention to your form, spectators are much further away at a more forgiving distance.
09:30 AM on 07/13/2012
I don't know which beach you go to, but as an avid beach goer and part of the over 50 crowd, I can't disagree more. The beaches in Florida are packed with 100s of people. Blankets are set out within a couple feet of each other. The sunlight is much brighter than being in a department store or on a dance floor. And a bikini is not a forgiving garment.
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Janenotdoe
truth be known...
05:09 PM on 07/11/2012
In my 62 years young opinion, Ellen Barkin shared some sage advice.
Perfecting a look as we age sometimes gets a little tricky --- pointers from someone as attractive as Ms. Barkin can't hurt!!
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smeeeee
Now take your nice red pill
04:59 PM on 07/11/2012
It all depends on what you want to achieve. Some women do have a real flair for more flamboyant fashion, but your average woman who just wants to age with dignity and avoid mockery and scorn, should probably stick to most of these rules. Not sure I'm ready to give up shorts yet, though.