What Is It with Men and Torture?

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Posted May 6, 2008 | 03:56 PM (EST)



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Back in 2005 James Wolcott wrote of torture: "Women may take part -- though I imagine it's rare, and under duress -- but only men could devise the intricate and cruel tortures and torture devices that have been inflicted over the centuries."

This is one generalization about women that feminists let slide. Lynndie England of Abu Ghraib fame was a blip on torture's radar screen and women would like to keep it that way. But what infuses men with the urge to torture?

For starters, never underestimate the impact of a hard-ass father. Then there are the tyrannies under which many live where rule by force is the norm. Meanwhile, for those men who live in a democracy like ours (however putative), our cultural cup runneth over with blood from movies like the Saw and Hostel series and video games like Mortal Kombat and Gods of War.

Then, of course, there's 24, which, in effect, gave license to embrace torture to a whole nation -- including West Point cadets and Guantanamo personnel. Philippe Sands reports in the May Vanity Fair: "Jack Bauer had many friends at Guantanamo" said an administration lawyer asked to sign off on enhanced interrogation techniques. "He gave people lots of ideas."

Wolcott adds: "Only [men] would draw up the blueprints for machines and procedures to exact the maximum amount of pain and humiliation just shy of death."

At one time, diabolical machines were devised for torture: from the brank, the brazen bull, and the breaking wheel to the heretic's fork, the instep borer and the iron maiden. Since then, other than the electronics of stun guns, torture implements have become more basic.

Today, a torturer is likely to equip himself with non-specialized, dual-use items like a baseball bats, cables, iron pipes, pliers, sticks, and maybe a hook on the ceiling for the strappado (suspension by the wrists, tied behind the back).

In the US the torturer's arsenal is even more stripped down. But its effects are maximized by techniques designed by psychologists using, among other things, sequence, duration, and humiliation, not to mention, of course, near-death drowning experiences.

In other words, men who once would have applied themselves to devising the hardware now concentrate on the software, as it were, of the process itself. Men love this kind of brainstorming: Aside from designing software on the job, in their leisure time they play Rotisserie Baseball, Fantasy Football, and games like Dungeons and Dragons.

Speaking of dungeons, torture holds myriad other attractions to men. For instance. . .

What man doesn't love basements? Actually, torture done in a basement is usually the province of a serial killer, the only form of life lower than a torturer. State or terrorist torture is usually carried out in a basement-like environment such as an interrogation room in a prison. Meanwhile, in some countries, like Pinochet's Chile, where people were tortured in National Stadium, a sports site is used.

Torture is actually like a sport. In its cruelty it's comparable to dog or cock fighting. Those are spectator sports, though, while torture is hands-on, though there's no danger to the participant like, say, in Mixed Martial Arts. Yet you get your ultra-violence rocks off like in no other contact sport, even football. But, in common with spectator sports. . .

It calls for drinking. In fact, only an ideologue, a religious fundamentalist, or a psychopath is likely to torture sober. Though, outside of Abu Ghraib, it's hard to imagine Americans who torture drinking while on duty. Troubling as that sounds, why should they? It's not torture, they're told -- only enhanced interrogation techniques.

It lets you play with guns. Not actually, since torture seldom incorporates shooting. But hand-held electro-shock batons and stun guns are used in 20 countries.

Electricity is not all that electrifies. Women are often raped, sometimes by a roomful of torturers. Beyond that, the homo-erotic frisson is to die for. Not just the psycho-sexual thrill of hurting other men, including assaults on their sexual organs. But guys banding together to do work deemed invaluable. In other words. . .

Male bonding to the nth degree. Not just over the shared activity -- they're complicit in double super-secret work verboten under normal conditions. They're thus bound together in a secret society.

Why get all bent out of shape over torture when it's just guys being guys? A man has got to let off a little steam, doesn't he? Sure -- as long as he understands that his superiors may offer him up as a sacrificial lamb or turn him into a scapegoat to escape prosecution themselves.

 
 

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- burnt See Profile I'm a Fan of burnt

Ask Hillary. As her claim of vast and superior experience is based almost exclusively on the Bill Clinton White House years... and as Bill Clinton was the modern-day architect of torture as practiced and contracted out by the US Government, it would appear that Hillary should be able to provide an answer. Did she participate in crafting or promoting Bill's Presidential Directive (PDD 39) that led directly to extraordinary rendition and torture by proxy? Does she currently support the practice? Why or why not?

It's not just a man's game anymore.

Hillary and Bill - putting the "nasty" in Dynasty since 1992

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 05/06/2008
- RussWellen See Profile I'm a Fan of RussWellen

"putting the "nasty" in Dynasty "

Pretty funny. Also, your question is good. Forgot that he was involved in rendition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 05/07/2008
- Impishparrot See Profile I'm a Fan of Impishparrot

To Russ I would share this observation from that great southern humorist and behavorist...

JULIA SUGARBAKER: ...In general it has been the men who have done the raping and the robbing and the killing and the war-mongering for the last two thousand years.... and it's been the men who have done the pillaging and the beheading and the subjugating of whole races into slavery. It has been the men who have done the law making and the money making and the most of the mischief making! So if the world isn't quite what you had in mind you have only yourselves to thank!!

I would add that the male-dominated world religious establishments just love a crusade. Crusades fought to protect the sensibilities of women and children - even it if it kills us - and especially if it fills the coffers of god and government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 05/06/2008
- RussWellen See Profile I'm a Fan of RussWellen

Dixie Carter said that? Cool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 05/07/2008
- RadioResearch See Profile I'm a Fan of RadioResearch

The Iroqouis Indians were a matriarchal society and used to send their men off to capture young men from other tribes so that the women (not the men - who found this behavior disgusting) could torture them. The WOMEN did this torturing for several days and had different words to describe the different cries of pain the young men had in the course of their torture.

Women aren't any different than men in this regard they just don't serve in those capacities in the military that much (the general in charge was a woman BTW).

This blog is purely sexist and demeans men, sadism is not the sole province of men or women. It is the result of psycho-pathology.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 05/06/2008
- RussWellen See Profile I'm a Fan of RussWellen

Thanks, RR. Even though I just finished reading a new book about east coast American Indians, I never heard anything like that.
The book is "The Head in Edward Nugent's Hand: Roanoke's Forgotten Indians" by Michael Oberg. Highly recommended.
I have no problem demeaning men -- for all the reasons Julia Sugarbaker outlined above!
Nice having a Viet vet respond to my posts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 05/07/2008
- Krikkit See Profile I'm a Fan of Krikkit

I'm not quite sure what point you were trying to make, if any, with this piece. Bottom line from behavioral research is that 2 things happen that allow torture to take place.

1. The 'enemy' is dehumanized in the minds of the torturers. If you can't bring yourself to torture a *human being*, well, it's still okay to torture a *thing*. That dehumanization can be accomplished in a variety of ways. In war, just project all the enemy's real or purported attrocities onto that individual.

2. Obeying orders. When someone else is in command, it removes the responsibility of the person who carries out the orders. Absolved of all sin, people can do the most attrocious things. Google "Stanford Prison Experiment" to get the research findings.

These two apply to both men and women, although there is some indication that ranking plays a more important role with men than with women.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 05/06/2008
- blueraven See Profile I'm a Fan of blueraven

What is it with writers and their complete inability to look past their own generation's culture to analyze influences? Are you unaware of the bloodiness of Jacobean drama? The sheer viciousness of hand-to-hand combat with bladed weapons? Grand Theft Auto IV is weak compared to a swordfight. But we're somehow supposed to believe that US culture was impervious to housing torturers until the existence of the Sony Playstation.

For human nature before mass media, I give you the Great Inquisition. Some of their torture methods would put Abu Ghraib to shame. Can't blame horror movies for that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 05/06/2008
- hopeless277 See Profile I'm a Fan of hopeless277

You won't know until you try it. Join the CIA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 05/06/2008
- thisminute See Profile I'm a Fan of thisminute

We don't torture people in America and people who say we do simply know nothing about our country.
- George W. Bush [Interview with Australian TV - October 18, 2003]

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
- Friedrich Nietzche

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 05/06/2008
- gonavy See Profile I'm a Fan of gonavy

Human natue at it's worst.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 05/06/2008
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