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Seventh-day Adventists To LGBT Members: 'It Gets Better!'

Posted: 08/02/11 03:36 PM ET

I'll never forget the night I really talked to Matt (not his real name) about his sexuality and what that meant for him. He was the son of one of the prominent couples in my church. Matt had come out to his parents and his church years before. But they were new in our town and at first all we knew was that their son didn't attend church.

Eventually I learned that Matt was gay and heard the painful stories that always go along with that discovery. He was a remarkably talented pianist and used to play for his church when he was younger. I and other leaders of our church reassured Matt that he was welcome at our church anytime and that we'd love to hear him play the piano in worship. It took a while, but he finally did join us and even played the piano on occasion.

One night I finally mustered the courage to ask Matt about his life experience. It was the kind of conversation that presupposes a trusting relationship. He described a fun and exciting world of clubs and bars, but with a twinge of sadness. He confessed that for him it had become a self-destructive environment but it seemed like the only place where gays and lesbians could find any peace and acceptance in our culture.

Now it was my turn to be sad. I remember that moment like it was yesterday because I said to Matt, "Isn't that what the church is supposed to be? A community of love and grace and acceptance that can't be found anywhere else on earth?" Matt laughed politely but I could tell he found the idea naive if not downright preposterous.

A lot has changed since I had that conversation with Matt. I have changed, the culture has changed and yes, the church has also changed -- in most cases, for the better. Which is why I am excited that a group of Seventh-day Adventist filmmakers and activists has come together to create an It Gets Better video for Adventists (and as part of the larger It Gets Better campaign).

There is also a longer version of this video, where you can experience more fully the power of these stories to inspire hope in the hearts of young people about their future.

Through the years I have had the privilege of hearing dozens of stories like this first hand. In spite of the variety, some elements are almost always the same. For instance, I have not met a single person who has, in any sense, chosen to be gay. They have all discovered it about themselves, just as we all discover our sexuality in adolescence. More importantly, and in spite of what I have heard some pastors claim, I have never met a single person who is "thumbing her nose" at God. I do, however, know many gays and lesbians who feel God has rejected them, thumbing His nose at them! Where could they have possibly gotten that idea?

It is the responsibility of churches -- and church leaders -- to create safe and accepting communities of worship and fellowship for everyone, including our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters. Many churches will read this as old news and perhaps scoff at their more conservative counterparts in the church. But I think we can all agree that any progress toward more welcoming and safe Christian communities is something to celebrate. Throughout the New Testament Jesus is both loved and hated because his welcome -- which he understood as a direct extension of God's welcome -- included everyone.

This It Gets Better video is a major step for Seventh-day Adventists. Though it doesn't presume to speak for all Adventists or the official church, it does represent a trend toward the love and compassion of Jesus being more fully displayed in Adventist congregations. In an important sense, the appearance of this video is, itself, an evidence that it does get better.

 

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03:57 PM on 08/11/2011
Ryan, thanks for sharing your this!

I attended Forest Lake Academy and Southern Adventist University and will admit there is a change within the overall attitude towards our community. I am proud of my sexuality and know this is how I was created. This recognition did not come easily and the church's beliefs and attitudes towards LGBT community had a significantly negative impact psychologically. It took some time to become an authentic and whole person.

Until the Church moves towards complete acceptance and integrating all community members regardless of who they are they, the Church fails it ultimate mandate--to serve and meet the needs of our community, as Christ lived and practiced. Frankly, the Seventh-Day Adventist Church is still divided with separate conferences for different ethnic groups, a practice that seems oddly familiar of the days of segregation. Maybe it has changed but I think if you look to the current church leadership you may still find them consisting of older white men. Where is your current Ellen G. White for today? I think you have lost your message and your way!

The true power of Christ compels us to action--action that may require one to give up all they have for doing the right thing but I see no one in the Church Leadership speaking against this clear violation of civil rights or admonishing this type of hatred. Rather, they sit secure in the fact that they know God's Law and what is moral and correct.
09:46 PM on 08/03/2011
Very interesting reading some of the comments here. I myself am an SDA and am surprised by some of the comments that are being made. Have been having a similar discussion over at Revyved - http://revyved.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=49&sid=8951250e41b643edf7dfd9d71... and have been engaging in interesting discussion on this as well. I think this video is great and has been needed for some time now.
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04:23 PM on 08/03/2011
I had the opportunity to work with someone. Although I'm very open to those who happen to be gay, I made a huge assumption. My coworker, and now friend, talked about his son and talked about a relationship. Somehow I got it in my head that he was married - to a woman.

He mentioned that he wasn't married. "Oh. So how do you refer to each other?"

"We're partners."

A few days later, after completing a task, he looked at me with firm conviction, explained that his partner was "not a woman."

I was embarrassed. How could I have made such an assumption. I apologized over and over. A tremendous conversation developed about his early life in church, his marriage, his son, and how he began to come to grips with his homosexuality. It was an amazing story - I love stories and I love how people express their version of "the meaning of life."

The thoughts of suicide, the pain, the harassment, the ostracizing - lots of pain in the journey. But to me, the worst part of the story was how his church disfellowshipped him - and the incredible pain associated with the mistreatment he received.

The powerful and positive part I heard is that my coworker/friend is still seeking God. He's given up on the Church, but he wants to know God.

I hope "The Church" can adapt and provide a better avenue for these people to find Him.
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There has got to be a better way!
12:29 AM on 08/03/2011
The official position of the Seventh Day Adventist Church is not so gracious, open, or giving. It calls homosexuality a "disorder." Homosexuality -- even the committed monogamy of those who marry, is cause for church discipline and is listed with other sexual sins.

So perhaps, for LGBT members in the Seventh Day Adventist Church, it might not get better any time soon. Change to the official position is discussed like this: "Despite the church’s official position on homosexuality, some influential thought leaders in the church are urging the church to abandon its biblical position." http://www.drpipim.org/homosexuality-contemporaryissues-47/38-the-official-seventh-day-adventist-position-on-homosexuality.html

Understanding homosexuality as discussed in the Bible requires good historical and cultural understandings. Knowing the differences between conceptions of sexuality then and now are important in the discussion. But people who simply take the text at face value and do not remember the culture and world view of the people receiving the original message make serious application and interpretive errors. They will never see it. They never do.
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Ryan J. Bell
11:27 AM on 08/03/2011
Yes, there's a long way to go. Yet, the people I work with are much more interested in the actual experience of being accepted in a local community of faith than the official statement that they probably don't know exists. Onward and upward!
12:52 AM on 08/05/2011
I`m sorry Mr. rtgmath but, do you have actual proof of this lack of graciousness, openess or giving. I don`t know where the Church call it a "disorder". If you have the actual leadership quote, post it. however, GOD is a GOD of order, that much we know. If nothing evil comes from the His hand. and He already stated this lifestyle is a sin, than it is a disorder, is it not?. Also what you are saying is that for the "LGBT members of the Church", first let me correct that a person only becomes an official member of the Church at Baptism. up to that point a person just worships the Lord there. After that person feels impressed by the Holy Spirit to come forth to a baptism call makes that commitment with GOD to "go and sin no more", he is a "member" of the family of GOD. Now, "It might not get better any time soon". This implies that, They won`t be able to go to Church then go home and have sex with persons of their own sex anytime soon. Does that sounds right to you?. Your twisting of "Homosexuality as discussed in the Bible" only serves to condone the pleasures of the flesh and cultivate a mentality that God also does. "But people who simply take the text at face value ...." - Only a undiscerned mind completely devoid of the Holy Spirit would say such a thing.
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10:32 AM on 08/05/2011
"He already stated this lifestyle is a sin, than it is a disorder, is it not?"

What makes you think that your religion gives you the "right" to discriminate? America was not founded on Christiani­ty. We, as a country, do not have any sort of "approved"­, "acknowled­ged" National Religion. Christiani­ty doesn't have any more validity in trying to dictate policy to the government than Mormonism, Judaism or Islam has. In other words, ZERO. You can sit there & quote your Big Book of Religious Myths all day long, but unfortunately for you, it has no bearing on GLBT rights.

Stop trying to use your religion as a basis for your discrimina­tion. Your holy book and your religion do not confer any special rights to you. It doesn't set you above anyone else & it doesn't make you special. And it certainly doesn't make you any more qualified to deny rights to a group of people because of what you think it says in your holy book.
07:34 PM on 08/02/2011
It is good to be accepting of people, but not of sin. I would gladly let a gay man in my church and home, but should I condone a gay lifestyle? God loves the sinner, not the sin. You should teach, not give false hope that they can continue on this path.
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10:29 PM on 08/02/2011
Unfortunately for you America wasn't founded on Christianity. Your religion has as much "right" to legislate other people's lives, or dictate policy to the government, as Islam, Wicca, Mormonism or Judaism. Namely, none.

Slowly but surely homosexuals are getting the rights they deserve. As it should be.
01:04 AM on 08/05/2011
America was founded on Christian "Principles". That is an historical FACT. Who told you this Church is trying to legislate people`s lives?. No such a thing. What the homosexual community doesn`t understand is that preaching the Gospel includes warning that God will soon return and that those who do what he pleaded not to do, will not live to see the great new Treasure World he will re-create. It`s an act of love on his part and on the part of those who sound these good news. My question is , why can`t the homosexual community say, "no, i don`t want to be loved by you" . I want to be loved only by those who as myself ,do what God doesn`t approve of. That would be more honest that the way the majority act these days. And no, i`m not on the side of those so called "Christians" use THEIR OWN words when preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
01:44 AM on 08/03/2011
It is good to be accepting of people, but not of ignorance. I would gladly let a religious man in my life and home, but should I condone a superstitious lifestyle? The world pities the fool, not the foolishness. You should teach, not give false hope that they can continue on this path.
04:02 PM on 08/02/2011
Gays should be welcome in the Church, they should be invited to the church, treated with compassion within the congregation, they should be shown a light, love, and general human respect. But they should respect the sanctuary, they should not show affection toward each other in the sanctuary, they should not expect a person of G-D to condone their “choice” of lifestyle. Now where do we draw the line? If they openly violate G-D’s moral laws they cannot be members, they cannot be leaders of the congregation. How dare we change G-D’s moral commandments. Because the times have changed? I know, we don’t stone people for working on the Sabbath anymore but the weight of the Law and the punishment are two different planets and cannot be thrown into the same basket. When the argument is made that being gay is NOT a choice but they are born that way it removes the moral responsibility. G-D, when he dictated the moral commandments which are still in affect even within the New Covenant, certainly rejected the notion that it was normal. We should not hate them, ridicule them, we should shine a light and let G-D work. But a line must be drawn in the sand. http://www.yahwehyeshua.com
06:02 PM on 08/02/2011
"they should not show affection toward each other in the sanctuary"

Yes, because no one likes a church where people *gasp* love their neighbors! God forbid people showing affection towards each other!
01:28 AM on 08/05/2011
You are twisting what the man is saying here. That`s not nice. The guy is correct, If a man and a woman are addicted to sex and they want to go to Church and they can`t control their urges and end up having sex in one of the rooms there, do you thing that`s ok? or should they wait after they leave to engage in what they desire to do?. They went in knowing it was a place that requires reverence so, they and everyone else should act accordingly. Sounds fair to me.
06:32 PM on 08/02/2011
Draw your little line in the sand. You so don't speak for God.
01:29 AM on 08/05/2011
If you read your Bible you`ll see that GOD spoke in many ways and instances which was in fact as "drawing a line in the sand".
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KrautMan
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03:51 PM on 08/02/2011
Congratulations, more progressive wing of the Seventh-day Adventists, for reaching the 20th century. Why you would display such pride though is beyond me, there's still 111 years to go. And while you're at it, don't forget to drag your more conservative wing into the 19th.
03:10 PM on 08/02/2011
Thanks Pastor Bell. That suicide rate is unacceptable in our church.