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Why do you think Sarah Palin knows more about health care than you? She doesn't.
Why do you believe Dick Morris when he says old people will be harmed by Obama's health plan? Why don't you find out for whom he lobbies?
Why don't you connect the fact that insurance companies sponsor Sean Hannity's show and draw an obvious conclusion?
Why aren't you appalled at the number of people who have died because insurance companies have turned down applicants for surgery and treatment? It is in the tens of thousands.
Why is it okay to scream and yell at meetings. Why isn't it all right to behave in a way a polite child would behave?
Why should I care if the guy from Montana who questioned Obama is a proud member of the NRA? Why? Is the NRA going to pay his medical bills when his gun accidentally goes off?
Why doesn't anybody ask Sam Wurzelberger what credentials he brings to the table to speak to anybody about anything? Is baldness a qualification for expertese?
Why can't Palin name anyone who is a member of a death panel? Is it the same reason she can't name the newspapers she reads?
Why does Brian Kilmeade of "Fox and Friends" think that 44 is twice as much as 29? Is he ever embarrassed?
Why does Rush Limbaugh lie when he says he never said "death panel",that he was only quoting Palin. That is a lie. Why does he lie? Why does he think his listeners are stupid?
Who do the town hall shouters want their country back from?
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"Why should I care if the guy from Montana who questioned Obama is a proud member of the NRA? Why? Is the NRA going to pay his medical bills when his gun accidentally goes off?"
That won't be necessary, because the NRA will provide firearms safety training to anyone who needs it, helping to ensure that his gun won't accidentally go off.
Guns don't just "go off" by themselves. The only way they fire when you don't want them to is when the trigger is pulled due to improper handling. The way to deal with that is the same way to deal with every other potentially dangerous product in life: get proper training and develop safe habits.
Thanks, I haven't been patronized yet today, and was feeling deprived. Don't worry, I got someone to help me sound out the big words you used, like Wurzelburger. I just know you'll be a writer on this site for a long, long time.
"Is the NRA going to pay his medical bills when his gun accidentally goes off?"
Is the American Automobile Association going to pay the medical bills for someone injured in a traffic accident?
Is the National Beer Wholesalers Association going to pay the medical bills for someone injured by a drunk driver?
Is the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association going to pay the medical bills for someone injured in a plane crash?
Of course, none of them, including the NRA, will or should. What a stupid question.
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the AAA does not sanction the purchase of cars that are designed to kill people and only people.
airline organizations does not sanction flying in planes that will kill people.
the NRA has a leader who sees nothing wrong with selling weapons to people on an FBI watch list. get it?
The NRA only sanctions the ownership and safe use of firearms by lawful citizens. The NRA teaches firearms safety to thousands of citizens annually, and deaths from accidental gunshot wounds are at an all time low, less than two per day nationwide, even though firearms ownership and the population is increasing.
In addition, the majority of law enforcement officers in this country receive their firearms training from NRA certified instructors.
“The NRA has a leader who sees nothing wrong with selling weapons to people on an FBI watch list. get it?”
So do you believe that you should lose a constitutional right because some nameless government bureaucrat places you on a list with no due process of law and no process to have your name removed form it? You know Dick Nixon would have loved that one. Get it?
Great summary! You have done a wonderful job of putting many of our* thoughts and feelings into this. Thank you.
*(people who pay attention and aren't being manipulated by the right-wing lie machine)
This teaser for FOX's Sunday news show:
IS there an Obama 'Death Book?'
IS Obama trying to pull the plug on Veterans?
I thought all that Churchin' was supposed to give people consciences?
Finally, populist outrage summed up bullet style, I love it. Really thoughtful post. Thanks.
Why aren't we outraged that our Health Care Premiums are being misdirected to run this hate and fear campaign to kill reform? The for-profit health care industry is using our money to kill any reform that will make them pay for our health care. They just want to keep us as their cash cows and deny service to the needy and jack up our premiums year after year BECAUSE THEY ARE A MONOPOLY.
Where is the OUTRAGE? Enough of these side issues. Look at what is really happening. They have cloaked their campaign in grass roots looks and hit gold when the "anti-that not white guy in the White House" group took their chance to spout off. These guys with guns care nothing about health care. They want white supremacy.
We need to go back to a civil discussion of the problems caused by the greed of the Health Care Industry.
Dear MoveOn member,
The public health insurance option is the heart of health care reform and right now it's under serious attack.
Even some members of the administration are pushing President Obama to give in to conservatives and drop it: one senior White House adviser told The Washington Post, "I don't understand how [the public option] has become the measure of whether what we achieve is health-care reform."1
This unnamed source apparently doesn't understand that the public option is the key to lowering health care costs and expanding coverage.
But there is a group of progressives in Washington who DO understand. Sixty House Democrats have signed a written pledge to not vote for health care reform unless it includes a robust public option.2 That's more than enough to block a bill without the public option.
These representatives are already facing pressure to back down, but if we stand strong with them, we'll send a clear signal that the heart of reform can't be compromised away. Can you make a contribution to the progressives in Congress who are standing tall for the public option? Clicking the link below will take you to ActBlue, where you can donate.
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=51789&id=16918-9193653-lMdAxQx&t=3
THE UNNAMED SOURCE IS A HOAX.
And it is not free healtcare and you have the OPTION not to take it.
do you get the option to not pay for it?
Sure. Just pretend all of your tax money is part of the 90% that goes to defense.
no, it's called being part of a society with a conscience.
you should try having a conscience. don't cost nothing.
no- do you have an 'option' to pay for your fire and police dept? I would look into that, sounds like facist commie socialized policin' to me.
Why do you think you should pay for those people's healthcare?
For a couple of reasons:
You are paying for these people's care already. You pay because the hospitals and emergency rooms pass the costs of uninsured off to the insured in the form of higher overall costs. You pay for the loss of productivity in the economy when people do not get early treatment and require extensive and expensive additional sick time. You pay because the uninsured are ususally less healthy and therefore less productive.
Of course, there is the moralistic reasons for paying for other's healthcare. It's the right thing to do. Do you WANT to let people become bankrupt, suffer, and die needlessly?
Finally, why the frack not?. If you are a mid-level earner, you will probably not pay much more than a couple hundred bucks a year in extra costs. That's still a whole lot less than most folks spend on booze. Is having an extra handle or two of gin more important than stabilizing a poor kid's asthma?
Sh*t, this I-got-mine-ism is really starting to irk me.
-*Zortag*-
Zortag: About I-got-mine-ism, it is so interesting to me that a lot of the people who are the most mouth-foaming against "paying for other people's health care" loudly proclaim they big-time Christians, evangelicals, born-againers (and born againers are often birthers--interesting again!). What happened to the compassionate and charitable acts that much-thumped and waved Bible instructs people to perform?
And while on the subject of mine-ism, that other frequently heard whine, "I want my country back!" REALLY bugs me, because it's not THEIR country any more than it is MINE. I was born here. I pay taxes (a lot of them). I have a birth certificate. It's my country. And they can't have "their" 1950s McCarthy-era country "back" because it's not COMING back!
Because they pay for yours.
Honestly, I think the rich should pay for 'those people's' healthcare.
How'bout having the rich pay for everybody's health care and auto insurance...sounds good to me!
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