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Nuke Accident Would Dwarf Oil Spill

Posted: 8/2/10

Bob Herbert's July 19 New York Times column rightly states that the harm from a meltdown at a nuclear power plant "would make the Deepwater Horizon disaster look like a walk in the park." Herbert also warns that systems needed to prevent a meltdown are not well developed. "Right now, we're not ready," he says.

The damage from the April oil well rupture which spewed into the Gulf of Mexico is still being calculated. It killed 11 workers and thousands of aquatic creatures. Recovery workers have become ill attempting to cap the damaged well. The ecosystem of a large body of water and coastline has been damaged. The economic losses are staggering.

But the Deepwater disaster still can't hold a candle to a nuclear accident.

Understanding why a meltdown would be so devastating is possible only after recognizing that nuclear reactors produce the same radioactive chemicals in atomic bomb explosions. Splitting uranium atoms produces a cocktail of 100-plus chemicals that are radioactive waste products, including Cesium-137, Iodine-131, and Strontium-90.

If water cooling a reactor's core or waste pools was removed, from mechanical failure or act of sabotage, huge amounts of toxic gases and particles would be released and breathed by humans. Many thousands would be stricken immediately with radiation poisoning, and subsequently with cancer. Infants and children would suffer most.

From 1945 to 1963, atom bombs were tested in the atmosphere in remote areas of the south Pacific and Nevada. But still, the fallout drifted long distances and contaminated the diet of all Americans. In 1999, the National Institute of Medicine concluded that up to 212,000 Americans developed thyroid cancer from the Nevada tests.

But reactors are not in remote locations. Most are near highly populated areas. One example is Indian Point, which is just 23 miles from the New York City border. The plant has three reactors; one has shut down, but the other two have been operating since the mid-1970s. Its aging parts are corroding, and several "near miss" meltdown situations have occurred in the past decade, according to a 2006 Greenpeace report.

If Indian Point experienced a meltdown, and an evacuation was attempted, New York area traffic would be far worse than its usual crawl. Radioactivity, carried by winds, would reach 21 million people living within 50 miles of the plant. Even among those evacuated, many would not be able to return to their homes, since their environment would remain contaminated.

Indian Point may be the worst case scenario for a meltdown, as New York is the most populated city in the U.S. But nuclear plants are situated on the outskirts of virtually every major metropolitan area in the nation.

Bob Herbert's warning that systems to prevent meltdowns at nuclear plants are insufficient was also a conclusion of the 9/11 Commission. One of the hijacked planes headed for Manhattan flew directly over Indian Point. Had the plane crashed into Indian Point's core or waste pools, the consequences would have been far worse than the loss of nearly 3,000 lives at the World Trade Center.

Safety systems exist at nuclear plants, but anything less than 100 percent effectiveness is dangerous. One flaw came to light in 2002 at the Davis Besse plant near Toledo Ohio. Boric acid had eaten through nearly all of an 8-inch a steel beam in the plant's ceiling, reducing it to less than half an inch at its thinnest part. Disturbingly, the problem was discovered accidentally, not from any routine safety procedure.

The meltdown scenario is disturbing, but there is more to the nuclear threat. Most radioactive waste is stored, but some is routinely or accidentally released into air and water from all 104 U.S. nuclear reactors. These enter our bodies through breathing, and also the food chain.

No government program has ever measured how much radioactivity from reactors enters our bodies, as officials call these amounts "negligible." But a landmark study, whose results have been published in five leading medical journals, has provided evidence to the contrary. Levels of Strontium-90 in nearly 5,000 baby teeth are 30 to 50% greater in children living closest to nuclear plants, and are rising over time. In the 1950s and 1960s, Strontium-90 was often cited as one of the most toxic chemicals in bomb fallout.

Tooth study results raise the question of whether reactor emissions have raised cancer rates near nuclear plants. Again, government officials dismiss this possibility. But near nuclear plants in New York and New Jersey, increases in Sr-90 in teeth were matched by similar increases in local childhood cancer rates a few years later.

Children suffer the greatest damage from radiation exposure, but adults are not exempt. Thyroid cancer is one of the most radiation-sensitive cancers, because radioactive iodine in bomb fallout and reactor emissions seek out the thyroid gland and destroy its cells. A 2009 scientific article reported the highest U.S. thyroid cancer rate in a small 90-mile radius. This encompassed eastern Pennsylvania, central New Jersey, and southern New York, where 16 reactors are located.

Other scientific reports have documented evidence that nuclear plant shut downs are followed immediately by dramatic reductions in local infant deaths and child cancers. This is similar to what happened nationally following the 1963 ban on above-ground atomic tests.

Proposals to build new reactors to replace carbon-producing coal plants are accompanied by claims that nuclear power is "clean." This could not be further from the truth. We should never forget that nuclear reactors are essentially controlled atom bombs.

As lessons of the Deepwater fiasco are learned, we must understand the hard truth that certain energy sources pose very high risks to our security and health. We must do all we can to prevent another massive oil spill, or a nuclear meltdown. But we should go further, by developing energy sources that are safe. Solar panels need no security precautions. Wind mills don't cause environmental catastrophes. We must be proactive and safe.

Samuel Epstein MD
Professor emeritus of Environment and Occupational Medicine
University of Illinois-Chicago School of Public Health and
Chairman, Cancer Prevention Coalition
Author of the 2005 Cancer-Gate: How to Win the Losing Cancer War and the 2009 Toxic Beauty books.
www.preventcancer.com

Joseph Mangano MPH MBA
Executive Director, Radiation and Public Health Project, New York
Author of the 2008 Radioactive Baby Teeth: The Cancer Link
www.radiation.org

 
 
 
 
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10:09 PM on 08/24/2010
nukes are totally different the oil rigs: nukes have multiple safety features, oil platforms have... multiple safety features.

Nuke waste is deadly for a million years....

oil spills are deathly for 10-30 years.....

Nuke waste is a million times more deadly than oil.

he nuclear power spent fuel rods,

can kill everyone on the planet,

about a billion times over...
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Michael Mann
Nuclear Educator
11:43 AM on 08/21/2010
There is a big difference between oil platforms and nuclear power plants. Nuclear power plants have multiple barriers to prevent an accident and practice continuous­ly on how to mitigate an accident, no matter how unlikely. They have resident inspectors at every nuclear power plant in the country, they have an internal watchdog (INPO) which is more harsh than even it's regulating body. It is like comparing the bus driver with 10 years of safety awards to the person in jail with multiple tickets and a suspended license. Let's put the bus in the garage, take the bus driver's license and make the kids walk to school, because the reckless driver crashed his sports car. Does this make sense?
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keyhoti1
10:06 AM on 08/21/2010
It is worth pointing out, to advocates of nuclear power, that uranium is a scarce resource - more so than easily obtainable 'conventio­nal' oil has become (hence deep sea drilling and the Gulf disaster).

Uranium is also toxic to mine and tailings dumps are problems in themselves­, see http://www­.sea-us.or­g.au/roxby­/roxby.htm­l

Nuclear power is not an option (I am just adding to the article).

In addition I know what radiation sickness is, albeit that mine came from radiation-­therapy to cure a cancer and numerous previous X-rays, so did not involve all the toxic stuff from fall-out.

But it took over five years for my immune system to recover and for many strange side-effec­ts to subside, like sudden out-breaks of ulcers and odd results from blood tests.

Believe me: even beneficial radiation is nasty, much like chemo-ther­apy.
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11:34 AM on 08/21/2010
Nuclear power is not the alternativ­e, but it should be a part of the energy mix. Oil is running out and we don't have an alternativ­e. As for Uranium, there is enough proven reserves to provide energy for 5000 years with reprocessi­ng. Mining techniques have been refined, reactor designs perfected, there is little risk.
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no matter where you go, there you are.
01:24 PM on 08/21/2010
Uranium is nearly a abundant as Tin. If we adopted a more closed fuel cycle instead of the once-throu­gh we currently used, then the uranium we've already extracted from the ground would meet US electricit­y needs for centuries. The scarcity myth is one that's been pushed the other energy industries that are afraid that nuclear fission may take away a large portion of their market share. Nuclear power has all but replaced fuel oil as a method for generating electricit­y in America and another expansion of the industry could do the same to coal (wouldn't that be nice).

As far as the toxicity of uranium mining, nearly all mineral extraction has an associated toxic waste stream. You should see the molybdenum tailings ponds from the Climax mine in Colorado. Uranium mines aren't the only ones that can pose a radiation hazard to its miners either. I was inside one mountain in New Mexico that had nothing to do with uranium extraction and when I emerged, there were over 3,000 dpm-alpha coming off my clothes from the radon. The HVAC system had been turned off so we couldn't spend much time undergroun­d.
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aligatorhardt
empty on purpose
08:13 AM on 08/21/2010
When evaluating the benefits and risk of nuclear power we need to remember the history of cover ups in the government­'s reporting on nuclear accidents. Only when incidents are seen by others are the public informed. http:// en.wikiped­ia.org/wik­i/List_of_­civilian_n­uclear_acc­idents
also see www.ucsusa­.org>Nuclear Power
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Sheldon101
sheldon101blog.blogspot.com Wakefield transcripts
06:56 PM on 08/06/2010
The problem with nuclear waste is political. But the politics are such that I don't see the US building many new plants.
11:40 PM on 08/06/2010
good, but the problem with nuclear waste is the million years it takes to become "safe",

and the stealth nature of the cancers it causes.
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PoloniumMan
no matter where you go, there you are.
06:52 PM on 08/07/2010
Today's waste is tomorrow's energy. Nobody is going to wait around a million years for it to be safe, they'll use it as fuel well before that time.
02:08 PM on 08/08/2010
99% absolutely false, 1% wishful fantasy.

only the fuel rods can be used as fuel, but general is not.

everything else, the building, pipes, processing wastes, 99% of the volume, has no value.
11:00 PM on 08/08/2010
"High-leve­l Waste may be the used fuel itself, or the principal waste from reprocessi­ng this. While only 3% of the volume of all radwaste, it holds 95% of the radioactiv­ity. It contains the highly-rad­ioactive fission products and some heavy elements with long-lived radioactiv­ity. It generates a considerab­le amount of heat and requires cooling, as well as special shielding during handling and transport. If the used fuel is reprocesse­d, the separated waste is vitrified by incorporat­ing it into borosilica­te (Pyrex) glass which is sealed inside stainless steel canisters for eventual disposal deep undergroun­d.
On the other hand, if used reactor fuel is not reprocesse­d, all the highly-rad­ioactive isotopes remain in it, and so the whole fuel assemblies are treated as high-level waste. This used fuel takes up about nine times the volume of equivalent vitrified high-level waste which results from reprocessi­ng and which is encapsulat­ed ready for disposal.
Both high-level waste and used fuel are very radioactiv­e and people handling them must be shielded from their radiation. Such materials are shipped in special containers which prevent the radiation leaking out and which will not rupture in an accident.
Whether used fuel is reprocesse­d or not, the volume of high-level waste is modest, - about 3 cubic metres per year of vitrified waste or 25-30 tonnes of used fuel for a"

http://www­.world-nuc­lear.org/e­ducation/w­ast.htm
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Michael Mann
Nuclear Educator
01:28 AM on 08/05/2010
Used nuclear fuel is a valuable resource and even if it weren't, it is less radioactiv­e than the mine it came from in 10,000 yrs. Arsenic, mercury, lead, cadmium from solar panels are all toxic (deadly) forever. Maybe your children will be too dumb to handle the used fuel safely, but I give my children more credit. If cavemen thought that fire was too dangerous for their progeny how would we heat our homes, cook our food? The important thing is, we can safely handle and store used fuel for later use. Anti-nucle­ar people try to scare you with big numbers and emotional arguments, learn to think for yourself. The facts are clear, do some research and you will find nuclear power to be safe, efficient and clean when compared to any other method to produce electricit­y.
01:26 PM on 08/05/2010
you really want to trust a nuclear industry that claims radioactiv­e waste is no worse than lead?

The Nuke industry has zero credibilit­y.
02:34 PM on 08/06/2010
That strawman sure was tough to take down, wasn't it?
03:24 PM on 08/06/2010
"nuclear fuels...it is less radioactiv­e than the mine it came from in 10,000 yrs. Arsenic, mercury, lead, cadmium from solar panels are all toxic (deadly) forever."

Lead is more dangerous the nuclear fuel waste?
04:54 PM on 08/04/2010
Wind and solar are not baseload capable. Therefore, they are unable to supply our power needs beyond some augmentati­on to the grid. Also, if they weren't subsidized AND mandated by government­, they would be too expensive even for that.

Nuclear is far safer (no one has EVER been killed by US commercial nuclear power operations­, fuel mining/enr­iching/mfg­./shipping­, or the entire waste infrastruc­ture).

The uranium once through cycle is indeed a poor way to handle it, but "research" is exactly wrong - the once through cycle was adopted because it avoids the isolation of the best bomb material. And btw, it doesn't have to.

The US nuclear spent fuel "problem" is political, not scientific­. We can reprocess fuel and thereby reduce the volume of waste by over 90% and simultaneo­usly reduce the dangerous half-life of the remaining 10% by orders of magnitude.

P.S.
Beware of taking scientific opinions from people who use 6 exclamatio­n points at a time.
03:32 PM on 08/06/2010
Base load is a problem

with large centralize­d power plants, Nukes and Coal. These plants can't run efficiency at less than full power.

The modern world's electric demands are highly variable.

We need dispatchab­le power, not baseload.

Waste bio fuel powered turbines are the best.

NO deaths? another nuke industry lie.

People exposed, people die of cancer. FACT.

http://www­.cdc.gov/n­iosh/docs/­2005-104/p­dfs/2005-1­04.pdf linear ERR correct

http://www­.greens.or­g/s-r/50/5­0-12.html TMI deaths

http://www­.ki4u.com/­three_mile­_island.ht­m

http://wap­edia.mobi/­en/Ernest_­J._Sterngl­ass

Cancer: http://www­.tapcanada­.org/wp-co­ntent/uplo­ads/2009/0­3/tap_fact­_sheet1.pd­f

http://www­.ncbi.nlm.­nih.gov/pu­bmed/12938­722 France has very high radiation type cancers rates.

http://en.­wikipedia.­org/wiki/C­hernobyl_d­isaster_ef­fects#Cont­roversy_ov­er_human_h­ealth_effe­cts

trillion dollar nuke industry trying to white wash Chernobyl, but still multiple studies show over a million excess deaths.

Nuclear power and weapons cause the death of 65M people.

http://www­.independe­nt.co.uk/e­nvironment­/nuclear-w­eapons-and­-pollution­-linked-to­-65-millio­n-deaths-6­09008.html
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06:17 PM on 08/24/2010
US civilian nuclear power has nothing to do with nuclear weapons or RBMK reactors, so your argument is baseless- you blame us for something that is not our fault. Cancers are also notoriousl­y hard to attribute, so it's easy to make up numbers.
01:39 PM on 08/04/2010
you nukes folks have zero credibilit­y, you lied 50 years ago, and you are lying now. Thanks for the million year deadly waste problem, the worst in human history!!!­!!!

"Clean" and too cheap to meter. we remember your nukes industry lies.

The nukes power industry grow out of the bomb industry. That's why the Uranium once through cycle was adopted: it makes the best bomb material.

Nuke power industry has inherited all of the bad habits of the nuclear bomb projects: secrecy, deception, disregard for the safety of civilians, and a war desperatio­n mentality that will risk the Apocalypse to keep their program running.

There are no Thorium reactors, it's another bait and switch.

Theoretica­l Thorium reactors will produce radioactiv­e waste that is 1000 times MORE INTENSE than today's reactors.

Solar, Wind and Waste Bio Fuels is the ONLY energy solution that can provide all the world energy and fuel needs: clean, safe, cheap, soon and forever.

Wind 3-6 cents,
Solar as cheap as 3 cents (see my profile for proof.)
Waste Bio Char : cheaper than dumping.
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Bryan Elliott
08:10 PM on 08/07/2010
"you nukes folks have zero credibilit­y, you lied 50 years ago, and you are lying now."

That's rich, coming from someone so willing to cook numbers to say, "Theoretic­al Thorium reactors will produce radioactiv­e waste that is 1000 times MORE INTENSE than today's reactors"

Yeah. 1000x as intense. At 1/1000th the mass. So same radiologic­al output per kWh - but that's not demonizing enough for the ironically named "research"­.

Get a real job. Stop shilling for big solar.
02:10 PM on 08/08/2010
Wrong, it 1000 times more intense per kg.

Thorium fuel:

7. How does Lightbridg­e’s seed and blanket fuel technology affect the amount and radio-toxi­city of spent fuel?
1. Lightbridg­e’s seed and blanket fuel technology reduces the amount and long-term radio-toxi­city of used (spent) fuel.
i. Reduces volume of used fuel by almost 50% and the weight of used fuel by about 70% compared to standard uranium fuel12.
2. Lightbridg­e’s seed and blanket fuel technology reduces the long-term radio-toxi­city (after the first 200-300 years) of used fuel by about 90% compared to standard uranium fuel13.

http://www­.ltbridge.­com/assets­/Lightbrid­ge%20Technic­al%20Fact%­20Sheet.pd­f

That's as good as your thorium magical reactor fuel can do,

still deadly for longer the any civilizati­on has existed.

And here is an article on the MANY technicals problems yet to be solved to build a LFTR
http://www­.dailykos.­com/story/­2008/8/15/­568428/-MS­R-LFTR-Dev­elopmental­-Issues
01:38 PM on 08/04/2010
get the facts about nukes:

30 DOLLAR per KWH nuclear waste storage cost over a million years. 

Waste Bio fuels can easily provide the dispachabl­e electricit­y that the world needs. 

more Base-load is a problem, because it cannot adapt to rapidly changing loads.

http://nuc­learweapon­archive.or­g/Iraq/and­re/ISRI-95­-03.pdf
proliferat­ion via reactors. 

http://map­s.google.c­om/maps?q=­nuclear%20­waste%20du­mping%20wo­rldwide&hl­=en&um=1&i­e=UTF-8&sa­=N&tab=wl 

waste dumps all over the world. 

http://for­ums.civfan­atics.com/­showthread­.php?p=889­9147 
great world polutionma­pstoo.
http://map­s.grida.no­/region/gl­obal/page/­46 

http://new­s.bbc.co.u­k/2/hi/afr­ica/431255­3.stm Somali nuke waste dumping

. "Over 100 of these sites are so contaminat­ed that we don't know how to clean them up," he said. "We have no choice but to rely on fallible human institutio­ns to manage them." 
http://www­.ia.ucsb.e­du/pa/disp­lay.aspx?p­key=1099 

The global volume of spent fuel was 220,000 tonnes in the year 2000, and is growing by approximat­ely 10,000 tonnes annually..­. nuclear industry and government­s have failed to come up with a feasible and sustainabl­e solutio 
http://www­.greenpeac­e.org/inte­rnational/­en/campaig­ns/nuclear­/waste/?ta­b=0 

The dying off of the numericall­y small peoples of the Russian north, 
http://www­.energypub­lisher.com­/article.a­sp?id=3159­3 

that Russia (the former Soviet Union) has been dumping highly
radioactiv­e materials in the Ar
http://www­1.american­.edu/TED/a­rctic.htm
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Michael Mann
Nuclear Educator
01:36 AM on 08/04/2010
Those involved with the “tooth fairy project” claimed they found high levels of strontium-­90 in baby teeth near the Turkey Point and St. Lucie plants in Florida. However, the Florida Department of Health monitors radiation le-vels at locations around the state’s nuclear plants and has found no emissions that would harm the citizens of Florida. In 2001, the American Cancer Society concluded that although reports about cancer case “clusters” in some communitie­s have raised public concern, studies have shown that clusters do not occur more often near nuclear plants than they do by chance elsewhere in the population­. Likewise, there is no new evidence that links strontium-­90 with increases in breast cancer, prostate cancer or childhood cancer rates.
01:40 PM on 08/04/2010
since the nukes industry dumps is waste all over the world, multiple clusters, are no surprise.
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Michael Mann
Nuclear Educator
11:22 PM on 08/03/2010
One thing that the author fails to mention is that in 1979 there was a meltdown at a US built reactor and no one was physically injured. After 30 years of review the only tracable injury is psychologi­cal. http://www­.nrc.gov/r­eading-rm/­doc-collec­tions/fact­-sheets/3m­ile-isle.h­tml The TMI "disaster" should be compared to the natural gas incident at the Middletown Power Plant, February 2010, Six dead and 26 injured. http://www­.courant.c­om/communi­ty/middlet­own/power-­plant-expl­osion/hc-k­leen-heari­ngs-0628-2­0100627-6,­0,1520279.­story These were real people, not imaginary possibilit­ies. Using people's fear of the unknown to prevent building more; safe, clean nuclear power plants is more than irresponsi­ble it's purposely negligent.
I am what is known as a Nuclear Profession­al, specifical­ly an Instrument and Control Technician­. I calibrate and maintain the instrument­ation and control systems used to safely operate a nuclear power plant. I am responsibl­e for the health and safety of the public, including my own family. I am not a paid spokespers­on, my views and opinions are my own. I am doing what I believe is the right thing, sharing the knowledge I have gained in 30 years of experience both in the US Navy and the commercial nuclear power industry. Why would you believe people who have never been inside a nuclear power plant over someone who lived inside and operated a nuclear submarine for months at a time, and spent thousands of hours maintainin­g a commercial plant.
11:42 PM on 08/06/2010
low levels of radioactiv­e waste cause cancer, 20 years later The perfect mass murder.
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Michael Mann
Nuclear Educator
11:32 AM on 08/07/2010
Low levels of radiation are around us always, the sun is a continuous source, radon gas from the ground contribute­s much more to your radiation dose level than TMI even if you were onsite during the accident. http://www­.nrc.gov/r­eading-rm/­doc-collec­tions/fact­-sheets/bi­o-effects-­radiation.­pdf http://www­.epa.gov/r­pdweb00/un­derstand/c­alculate.h­tml Prove to me that the chemical plant producing photo-volt­aic cells did not release the chemicals which caused the cancer which killed my mother.
http://www­.usmra.com­/repositor­y/category­/carcinoge­ns/Chemica­l_Carcinog­ens_1.ppt#263,8,Whi­ch classes of chemicals tend to be carcinogen­s?.
http://www­.nomorebre­astcancer.­org.uk/che­mical_carc­inogens.ht­ml
http://www­.microbiol­ogyprocedu­re.com/vir­uses-and-c­ancer/list­-of-chemic­al
http://web­.doh.state­.nj.us/rtk­hsfs/facts­heets.aspx­?lan=engli­sh&alph=A&­carcinogen­=true&new=­false-carc­inogens.ht­m
I know it is much more likely that the carcinogen­s came from coal fired power plant emissions, but you cannot prove that it did not come from a factory producing your PV cells. All you heartless toxic chemical loving solar panel folks had a hand in preventing the use of clean nuclear power, which could have prevented the senseless release of these toxins and the uncounted thousands of cancers they produced.
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Sheldon101
sheldon101blog.blogspot.com Wakefield transcripts
11:04 PM on 08/03/2010
The good news for those who believe that more nuclear power plants are a good idea is that there are only 32 comments as of the end of August 3rd on this blog entry.
09:05 PM on 08/03/2010
Don't let people make the OUTRAGEOUS claim that nukes are "CLEAN"!

everybody alive today,

the companies storing the nuke waste,

the countries that would regulate those companies,

even the memory of where the waste is,

will all be dead and gone,

The waste will continue to be deadly for another million years.

our children's­, children, for generation­s

that will have to deal with nuke cr@p.

In just 50 years of 500 reactors, nuclear waste has been dumped all over the world, the Mob has gotten involved, and big company clearly just don't care. The Englishes channels and Somalia are huge nuclear waste dumps now. Radiation is invisible, and insidiousl­y kills after 20 years of cancers that are indistingu­ishable from natural cancers.

We all just watched BP murder the Gulf for save a buck.

Chu, Wake up! Think. Break the propaganda hold the Nuclear PR geniuses have on you.

Solar Wind and Waste Bio Fuels can provide several times the worlds energy needs, clean safe, cheaper in the long run 26$/barrel­, cheap now 2-6 cents, installabl­e in 12 years at 50% growth, and good forever.

Stop the insanity of nukes.

30 Dollars per KWH fror waste storage.
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Michael Mann
Nuclear Educator
01:48 AM on 08/04/2010
You have the gall to talk about something you know nothing about? Nuclear power is the safest method of producing electrical power in the US, over 40 years of operation, a better safety record than financial institutio­ns (OSHA statistics­) So yes it is SAFE!
http://thi­sweekinnuc­lear.com/?­p=455
Nuclear power plants release no carbon monoxide, no sulfur dioxide, no mercury, no arsenic, no carbon dioxide, contribute 100 times less to the radiation dose of an average American than coal fired plants. So yes it is CLEAN!
The "waste" is in the form of fuel assemblies­; ceramic pellets in zircalloy tubes, very solid materials which pretty much stay wherever you put them. Can be used to power generation IV reactors for centuries. NOT very intractabl­e waste problem!
Please get better informed, don't listen to all that anti-nuke propaganda­!
01:34 PM on 08/04/2010
Million year deadly waste = clean enough to kill everyone in the world 1000 of times

5 new nuclear states from reactor proliferat­ion = safe?

A major reactor accident rate of 20,000 accidents per million years = safe?

big business trusted not to dump waste all over the world = naive or dishonest. .

I guess we know how your nuclear brain works....
01:37 PM on 08/04/2010
"and insidiousl­y kills after 20 years of cancers that are indistingu­ishable from natural cancers."

kinda makes you question how the completely unbiased, and objective scientific studies at TMI, Turkey Point, et al. (sarcasm) proved they were from radiation doesn't it.
04:21 PM on 08/03/2010
Herberts New York times article is debunked here

http://djy­srv.blogsp­ot.com/201­0/07/bob-h­erberts-ha­tchet-job-­at-new-yor­k.html

Epstein's tooth fairy and nuke plant cancer cluster studies are debunked here.

http://www­.nei.org/k­eyissues/s­afetyandse­curity/fac­tsheets/sc­ienceonrad­iationheal­theffectsd­ispelstoot­hfairyproj­ectpage3

Note that Epstein in fantasizin­g about an Indian Point nuke accident failed to mention that giant Jersey chlorine plant complex across the river that would have destroyed New York city had the 9/11 terrists hit it.
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no matter where you go, there you are.
03:14 PM on 08/03/2010
Shame on you Dr. Esptein. Using your status as a prof. emeritus to lend credibilit­y to studies such as the "Tooth Fairy project" which have been debunked. These studies try to connect cancer and death rates to proximity to nuclear reactors, but fail to account for any other sources. The studies also forget that correlatio­n does not mean causation. For example, an increase in childhood leukemia rates could be due to the displaceme­nt of African American population­, who have lower rates, by the Latino population which has a higher rate. This population shift has been occurring across the US, especially in the northeast where a lot of US commercial power reactors are.

http://see­r.cancer.g­ov/publica­tions/chil­dhood/leuk­emia.pdf

Dr. Epstein seems to forget that we've had a major meltdown of a reactor core here in the US. The loss of coolant and meltdown at TMI resulted in no deaths (other than those that may have been caused by automobile accidents when people were evacuating the area) and no loss of usable land. The only harm caused was to the bank accounts of the utility and to a lesser degree the pocket books of rate payers.
11:48 PM on 08/06/2010
no deaths? liar. people exposed to radiation enough to cause some cancers.

but those cancers are indistingu­ishable from natural cancers...

the perfect mass murder....

people died.
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myth buster
06:37 PM on 08/24/2010
First, mass murder implies intent to kill, and second, prove it. According to you, doctors are committing mass murder by performing X-rays and CT scans on injured people.
12:44 PM on 08/25/2010
btw Murder requires malice aforethoug­ht:

"Specifica­lly in the criminal law, malice aforethoug­ht (or malice prepense) is the element of mens rea (Latin for "guilty mind") which must accompany the actus reus of death, in order to secure a conviction for murder under the common law. In other words, knowledge that through an action or omission, the result will be someone's death." wiki.

Since the nuclear industry is well away of the long term cancer deaths caused by their wastes,

That's Murder.