Is War vs. Iran Still Politically Possible?

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Posted May 20, 2008 | 10:40 PM (EST)



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I must say that I find a "yes" answer to the question in the headline impossible to believe. But apparently the real chance of that new war is still very much alive.
For months, of course, some people have been warning that Bush plans to attack Iran. Seymour Hersh said it repeatedly in the New Yorker, based on intelligence sources. More recent warnings have come from Scott Ritter, who was right about Iraq's non-existent WMD. Not to mention a lot of saber-rattling from the Bush-Cheney crowd and their allies in the Pentagon.
But I'd thought that the National Intelligence Estimate saying that Iran had halted its nuclear weapons program five years ago had finally put a stop to the prospect of war. Since then, however, Bush has discounted the NIE, continued the naval buildup in the Persian Gulf, increased the U.S. troop presence along the Iranian border, and forced Adm. William Fallon to resign as Centcom commander after he openly opposed an attack on Iran.
Now comes the latest sign that Bush wants to go to war again. It's in today's Jerusalem Post which cites Israeli Army Radio as quoting a top Israeli official. That unnamed official reportedly claims that a senior member of the Bush entourage, also unnamed, said at a closed meeting during Bush's just-ended visit that Bush and Cheney both believe that military action against Iran is called for. The official reportedly went on to say that "the hesitancy" of both Defense Secretary Gates and Secretary of State Rice was preventing a decision to attack Iran for the time being.
The White House has denied the report. It said that while the military option is still on the table the U.S. prefers to resolve its differences over Iran's nuclear program "through peaceful, diplomatic means." However, that can easily be dismissed as the same kind of non-stop lying the White House has practiced for eight years, especially during the runup to the Iraq war.
What I don't think can be dismissed as easily are the political implications of a war with Iran during this election year. With Bush's and his party's popularity already in the toilet, is it possible that Bush can be contemplating still another action that could further devastate his party's chances in Congress and, above all, the White House?
Could John McCain's candidacy possibly be helped--or at least not hurt-- by still another war before Bush leaves office? A very few might argue that a brief, successful series of surgical airstrikes against Iranian targets might let Bush claim to have curtailed Iran's nuclear program and bring Republicans more votes.
But I can't possibly imagine that result. Iran's determination to do damage, in Iraq, Lebanon and Palestine, among other places, would be increased by a hundredfold after an American attack. I fear right now that McCain has a real chance of winning the presidency, given the divisions among Democrats and problems in their candidates' appeal.
But I think another war would absolutely insure a Democratic presidential landslide of Rooseveltian proportions, and even produce the sixty or more Democratic votes in the Senate that would doom Republican filibusters. So why is Bush still contemplating war with Iran? Or doesn't he care about McCain and the rest of his party? Or does he want to cement a cowboy legacy? Or is this a green light for Israel to do what Bush would like to do but won't? Or is it just meaningless saber-rattling? Or what? I'd like to know what other people think.

 
 

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- CollegeProf See Profile I'm a Fan of CollegeProf permalink

Unfortuneately, the Kyle-Lieberman Amendment (which Hilary voted for) would be used as justification for a strike on Iran and Bush won't feel he needs to ask Congress for permission.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 05/21/2008
- bgregs See Profile I'm a Fan of bgregs permalink

POLITICALLY possible? No. It would be political suicide for bush to do so. Having said that, he's not running for president again, so maybe it could happen. It might be that in his little brain he feels that he can justify not holding elections while we are there, and this in spite of the fact that during every war we've ever had which lasted long enough to run through an election cycle (except the revolution.....) we STILL held the election. We held the election as scheduled in 1864, we held the election in 1944, we held elections in 1964, 1968, and 1972. Let us hope that he tries something that stupid, and then we can all storm the White House to bring him out!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 05/21/2008
- wolfi101 See Profile I'm a Fan of wolfi101 permalink

Bush is dumb enough to do so, but I suspect a whole generation or two of Americans would never vote Republican again...

He's almost gotten us to that point already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 05/21/2008
- bgregs See Profile I'm a Fan of bgregs permalink

No doubt that he's dumb enough for that, but give him a little credit, he has surrounded himself with smart people. EVIL smart people, to be sure, but still intelligent. Furthermore, there's no doubt that he could try it, but he would have to depend ABSOLUTELY on the military and the Secret Service. Both of these organizations have a nasty habit of inspiring obedience to authority, but they also both CLEARLY define that authority as belonging to the Constitution, NOT to the President. I really don't think that he would be able to create enough support in EITHER the Military or the Secret Service, so they would help the people!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 05/21/2008
- stavros See Profile I'm a Fan of stavros permalink

Never discount a lunatic.
Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 05/21/2008
- bigfan1 See Profile I'm a Fan of bigfan1 permalink

McCain would be a big loser from a US attack on Iran only if the Democrats succeed in tying him more closely to Bush. So far he's gotten a free pass. Many GOP voters see him as the anti-Bush candidate. As long as McCain is allowed to get away with that, he has a good chance of winning no matter what Bush does. For that matter, given the latent (and overt) racism in this country, he just may win anyway. DEpressing, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 05/21/2008
- bgregs See Profile I'm a Fan of bgregs permalink

Once we have a nominee (early June is now my guess) he won't be getting quite as much of a free pass. Further, BOTH of our candidates are fighters enough to force the point!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 05/21/2008
- jennbeez See Profile I'm a Fan of jennbeez permalink

I think the lack of response to your post is proof that none of us know what to think. I'm still working on why BushCo was so determined to attack IRAQ. Until I get that one figured out, Iran is just too much to contemplate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 05/20/2008
- bgregs See Profile I'm a Fan of bgregs permalink

While I understand the sentiment, we all need to snap out of it, at least until Jan 20, 2009, because he might do it AGAIN if we don't contemplate it!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 05/21/2008
- wolfi101 See Profile I'm a Fan of wolfi101 permalink

I think, it's one of those times that remind us how little control or involvement we have in this Administration. I hear these things, and all I can do is just shake my head and think "Madness. It's just become madness at the top."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 05/21/2008
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