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After Three Shootings, America Needs Zero Tolerance on Guns

Posted: 08/14/2012 12:27 pm

My first reaction to the killing of a cop and a civilian in Texas by a man armed with an automatic gun was disbelief. First Colorado, then Wisconsin, and now this, all in a space of weeks. This can't be happening, I thought. Are we turning into a nation of trigger-happy psychopaths? I really hope not.

But hope is not enough; it's time for Americans to act on gun control.

My first blog on this topic, "Why Gun Control is Patriotic," debunked the myth that it is un-American to want gun control. The second, "It's Time to Challenge the Second Amendment," dealt with the twisted interpretation of the Second Amendment by the NRA and the far right. Based on the responses, I want to put some wrong notions to rest and recommend actions that we can take to deal with this mess.

The Technicalities of Assault/Automatic/Semi-Automatic Weapons Matter

There is a lot of quibbling over which weapons should be available to private citizens and which should be banned. I know there are vast differences between different types of guns, but when it comes to deadly weapons, nuances don't matter. We are not talking about complex financial instruments here, but things that are used to kill people. If the real purpose of guns, as ratified by the Supreme Court, is defense of one's home, then anything that can be used to fire dozens of rounds a minute, accommodate high-capacity clips of ammunition, or spray bullets, should not be in the hands of civilians. Period. There are no legitimate uses for such weapons in civilian life, regardless of whether you need to pull the trigger once or multiple times. So stop the quibbling and let's agree on something reasonable on this front.

Guns are no different than Box Cutters or Airplanes
Someone remarked that since box cutters and airplanes have both been used as weapons, should we impose controls on those as well? First of all, the primary purpose of box cutters is to open boxes and airplanes are used mainly to transport people over long distances; the fact that they have been used as weapons just demonstrates the perversion of the human mind. Guns, on the other hand, have only one purpose, which is to hurt or kill another living being, and so there is no comparison between those things. We regulate drugs, alcohol, driving, and even airplanes, so why should we not regulate guns?

Recovery of Existing Guns is Impossible
It's true that even if we restrict gun ownership today, we cannot reclaim all the guns that are already out there (there are currently 88.8 firearms per 100 people in America, which translates to more than 270 million guns). But that doesn't mean we can't try. One method might be for the government to offer tax incentives to gun manufacturers to re-purchase guns, and to individuals to surrender their weapons. Such incentives would mitigate the costs to the gun industry, put money into the pockets of gun owners, and benefit society as a whole. It's not a perfect solution but even if it nets a portion of the guns, it's worth it. And whether we can get the existing guns back or not, let's at least stop putting more out on the streets. As they say, when you are in a hole, first stop digging!

Most Gun Owners are Law Abiding Citizens
Yes, but so what? The condition for gun ownership cannot just be adherence to the law, but possible use. To take an example, a sane and law-abiding citizen does not need the type of rifle used by the Colorado shooter or a high-capacity clip to protect their home or hunt for deer. If they actually try to secure such items, then it is necessary to question their motives, and if we need to do that, do we really want such people having access to deadly weapons? Again, this problem can be solved by restricting the availability of certain weapons across the board.

Federal Gun Laws violate State Rights
If the people of a state want easy access to guns, why should the federal government impose its own standards on them? The answer is simple: guns purchased in a state are often transported to other states, where they wind up in the hands of criminals, impacting the entire nation. These 'straw-man' sales, which Mayor Bloomberg has been trying to stop for a decade, are a huge problem, forcing states to pay for the irresponsibility of their neighbors. That is why the federal government must create uniform gun laws, regardless of what individual states want. It is not a question of states' rights but a question of the common right of all Americans to be safe.

More Guns make Everyone Safer
The familiar logic goes that if everyone is armed, then no one can pull off a mass shooting since someone in the crowd will probably shoot them within seconds. People who suggest this are either in denial or just ignorant. Let's say that you are sitting at a restaurant eating your beef steak and downing your third glass of wine when a gunman walks in and starts spraying bullets around the place. Even if you are not too drunk or too well fed to recognize what is actually happening, the odds of your successfully a) Having the presence of mind to react, b) Retrieving your weapon, c) Taking the Safety off, and d) Aiming accurately and firing -- all the while ducking bullets -- are extremely low to none. More likely than not you will shoot one of your fellow patrons and compound the tragedy. Vigilantism is not a sustainable model for a peaceful society. We need less guns out there, not more.

So what is our government doing to address this problem? Nothing. Gun control is such political dynamite that no one wants to touch it. But that excuse is lousy, especially now. The recent shootings are a clear call for action on gun reform, and if our leaders have any backbone, they will get into it. I don't have any hope for Romney (who always evades the issue) and certainly not Ryan (who is a gun lover himself) but President Obama should do something.

If we are going to take aim at anything, then let it be at America's unhealthy obsession with guns and at the empty arguments against gun control, not at common sense.

Sanjay Sanghoee is the author of two thriller novels. Please visit www.sanghoee.com for more details and updates.

 
 
 

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My first reaction to the killing of a cop and a civilian in Texas by a man armed with an automatic gun was disbelief. First Colorado, then Wisconsin, and now this, all in a space of weeks. This can'...
My first reaction to the killing of a cop and a civilian in Texas by a man armed with an automatic gun was disbelief. First Colorado, then Wisconsin, and now this, all in a space of weeks. This can'...
 
 
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01:30 PM on 09/01/2012
Hypothetical Question Time! If you could press a button which could instantaneously destroy every single gun within the borders of the US (This includes legal and illegal as well as police but not the Military) while also preventing guns being brought in across borders would you press it? Just so you know I'm Irish and have absolutely no stake in this argument other than curiosity.
07:55 PM on 08/29/2012
Removing guns is an all or nothing venture. You stated that they could never get rid of all of them? You're right. So if you take the guns out of the hands of every law abiding citizen in the country or even on the planet... where are the rest you didn't get? One guess. You stated that guns are for one purpose... "to hurt or to kill another living being" (that's two by the way). Thats an uneducated statement. I think Sanjay had better stick to fiction as he seems to be poor on policy. As a matter of fact he seems to just have attempted to stir up trouble and conflict on a topic he knows little about. Sanjay should go sit with Rush, they sound just alike. Maybe they're related. Punishing all for the deeds of few is not an answer. I'm a gun owner, but I don't need 50 of them or 1 that holds 50 rounds. Middleground can be reached. I am for restrictions, regulations and education. I am against taking all firearms and attacking the constitution and freedoms. Oh and while you are "ducking bullets" and getting drunk on your wine in your story, I think you would be thankful for the trained and competent (and coherent) gunowner that may be sitting near you to stop the situation to give you a chance of survival. Trained minds and hands save lives with the tools they use.
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americancapitalist90
'Merica! Free markets, responsibility
11:48 PM on 08/19/2012
Those willing to give up some freedoms for safety deserve neither.

"shall not be infringed"
What is so hard about that?
07:02 PM on 08/29/2012
agreed, once the gov't starts down that path... well, i'm sure people can figure that out.
06:32 PM on 08/18/2012
Japanese have been clamoring for more guns. They are confident that if they have as many guns per capita as the US, their ridiculously high murder rate will fall below our murder rate.
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mackbolan
Libertas inaestimabilis res est
12:34 PM on 08/19/2012
in a country with half our population more people committed suicide without a gun than the total number of people killed by guns in the u.s....in fact over 30,000 a year kill themselves in japan and the figure has been going up...

wanna tell me again how its illegal for me to own a fully automatic machine gun....
01:12 PM on 08/20/2012
Hey, mackchinegun! Good to see a fellow gunster funster on the boards. Have you picked up that Ma Deuce you were looking for? I've got tracers for mine. If you're in town, let me know and we'll do some night shooting with the tracers. It's a thing of beauty when those tracers go screaming through the night sky. Positively BEEAAUUTIFUL, my friend.

Guns Forever, mackchinegun!

PS: thanks for the stat on Japan. I passed that on to the families of the victims in Aurora and the Sikh Temple and they all said words to the effect of, "I feel fine now. A dozen shot dead here, a half dozen shot dead there. No big deal." Thanks for the healing information, mackchinegun.
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Radioburning
06:17 AM on 08/21/2012
Statistics show that homicide with a firearm rates among Japanese immigrants in America are no higher than those of Japanese nationals, suggesting that availability of guns is less of a factor than cultural influences.
07:46 PM on 08/21/2012
Excellent point, Radioburned. Cultural influences in Japan such as no NRA gun culture have RUINED Japan and caused Japan's murder rate to be so much HIGHER than ours! Now if only they had the NRA to lead the way, the Japanese would have a murder as low as ours! Why do you think the Japanese have been having riots about socialistic gun control in their benighted crime ridden country? They are CLAMORING for more guns. You betcha, my gun buddy friend, culture differences! Even the Emperor himself has been calling for an NRA gun culture.

More guns for Japan! Shoot your way out of your crime problem, Japan! East meets Wild Wild West!
12:26 PM on 08/18/2012
Here's another example of a "defensive gun use":
http://www.chron.com/news/article/Philly-officer-fatally-shot-after-finishing-shift-3797888.php

And another:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/16/2-louisiana-sheriffs-deputies-killed-in-shootout/

To he ll with prevention. Shoot outs are the answer to crime.

More guns now! NRA forever! Wayne LaPierre for President.
06:05 PM on 08/18/2012
..and yet, still, even according to the anti gun VPC, only about 100 gun deaths a year in the US are at the hands of Licensed Gun Owners, less than 1%. So, here's a logical thought for ya, how about we focus on the other 99%?
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Grumpy Man
Disappointed idealist
01:51 PM on 08/20/2012
Trying to reason with unreasonable people is an exercise in futility.

Exercise keeps the mind and body strong.

Carry on. ;o)
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David Carson
01:04 PM on 08/21/2012
sorry Mikie--criminal activity does NOT qualify as legit self defense--and as a lawyer you know this
11:24 PM on 08/17/2012
"There are no legitimate uses for such weapons in civilian life, regardless of whether you need to pull the trigger once or multiple times"

Darn police need to turn in their weapons since they have no legitimate use...

They are a CIVILIAN force you know.. If one breaks the law he is tried in a civilian court, not a military court and, as you say..

What solution do you have to the elderly being attacked by the young? The few robbed by the many. The strong over powering the weak?

Until then there is no better tool on the planet that gives a 90 year old woman a CHANCE against a mugger.

If you think that defending your life or your family any given night is SOMEONE ELSE's job, then you are sadly mistaken.

How you would deal with the CONSEQUENCES of you magically getting your way. You think it will all be unicorns and fairy dust afterwards.. Instead it will be all clubs, knives and fists.. (Just ask England about their VIOLENCE rate..)

Finally.. Let me put it simply so you can understand what so many dance around saying..

You CANNOT come get them. Law or not... It is impossible for the simple reason that we will not go along but long before that.

We are better financed than you.
We are better organized than you.
We CARE more than you and can be SINGLE ISSUE voters.

Unlike you.
08:12 PM on 08/17/2012
GUNS: making little boys feel like men for over a hundred years.
08:42 PM on 08/17/2012
Pardon me, but may I make a couple minor corrections?
Guns: Allowing a 100lb woman to fend off a 250lb attacker since 1400AD
11:30 PM on 08/17/2012
Excellent post IndyRoadie. After reading it I realized that stories of women using guns to fend off and blow away would be rapists are constantly in the news. In fact, almost daily. In contrast, women being blown away by men, boyfriends, and husbands hardly ever occur. In fact, women being victimized by guns only makes the news about once ever four of five months. It's exceedingly rare.

Once again, Roadie, excellent post.
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eaglespark
"Why waste time learning? Ignorance is quicker."
01:57 AM on 08/18/2012
"GUNS: making little boys feel like men for over a hundred years."

That would certainly explain why my disabled wife carries a gun now, after being beaten and raped. Not. Considering how childish your attitude is, calling others "little boys" is ironic.
"Cuiusvis hominis est errare; nullius nisi insipientis in errore perseverare"
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Laurence Lance
01:15 PM on 08/18/2012
superior intelligence strikes again!
08:01 PM on 08/17/2012
Let's see: Cho (VaTech), Loughner (Tucson), Goh (Oakland), Stawicki (Seattle), Holmes (Aurora), Page (Sikh temple), killer of three in a strip club in Alabama about a week ago, whacko near Texas A & M a few days ago, killers of two cops in Louisiana yesterday. I apologize for not having a more complete list for our hit parade (no pun intended).
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NRA to America: Guns sales! Yummy! Let's keep this party (and the gun sales) going!
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wolflover3825
Hungry Like the Wolf.
07:14 AM on 08/18/2012
Brady Bunch to America: Let's sensationalize every tragedy so we can ask for money. Let's spread unwarrented fear to collect even more money.
09:29 AM on 08/18/2012
When was the Last time a civilian stoped a killing in a public place ? when was the last time police did the same ?
12:29 PM on 08/18/2012
Google: "71-Year-Old Man Shoots Would-Be Robbers at Ocala Internet Cafe"
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eaglespark
"Why waste time learning? Ignorance is quicker."
10:21 PM on 08/18/2012
"When was the Last time a civilian stopped a killing in a public place ? when was the last time police did the same ?"

This is not going to be in any kind of chronological order, but I just did a new search with the key words: "armed stops killer". You can also use: "armed... man/ woman/ citizen... stops/ defends/ saves".

[As reported, an 82 year old woman from Sierra Vista, Arizona used her handgun to stop an attacker who was trying to beat her to death with her own cane.
The woman was reportedly walking to her car in a Wal-Mart parking lot when a man walked up to her and stated “This is your day. You are too old to be alive anyway,” before grabbing her can and beating her with it. The elderly lady was reportedly grabbed her self defense gun from her purse and fired, missing the attacker but causing him to flee. The woman was reportedly hospitalized for a few days, due to the injuries she received from the cane beating, but but suffered no permanent injuries. A suspect, reportedly identified as Stephen Prickett, was apprehended shortly after the attack and faces multiple charges including attempted murder, according to police.]
http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2010/03/22/armed-82-year-old-woman-stops-would-be-killer/
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Sanjay Sanghoee
12:00 PM on 08/17/2012
"unknown individual"s thinking that Syria is even close to the United States in terms of its government and systems is exactly why someone like him or her should not be allowed to carry a gun!
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07:41 PM on 08/17/2012
When rights are revoked simply because the government does not like a persons beliefs, then we will be that much closer to having a governement which is similar to Syria.
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wolflover3825
Hungry Like the Wolf.
07:15 AM on 08/18/2012
Oddly enough, it's the anti-gunners that are comparing the US to Syria.
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unknown individual
12:30 AM on 08/17/2012
Let's simply agree that, this journalist is an complete moron. The 2nd amendment guarantees the right to defend oneself against anyone including those who would like to take those rights away. A glimpse at Syria, tells you what the result is when citizens are unarmed and unprepared.
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schotts
Strength and Honor
10:24 AM on 08/17/2012
I agree.
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noteabags
sometimes reserved, never conservative
11:56 AM on 08/17/2012
Really? The founding fathers had semi-automatics in mind when they wrote the second amendment?
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swatcapt
07:20 PM on 08/17/2012
Did they have the Internet or cell phones or another digital way of communication when they wrote the first.
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schotts
Strength and Honor
07:31 PM on 08/17/2012
Really? The Founding fathers had high speed internet, smart phones, tv, radio in mind when they wrote 1A?

Or new religions like Mormanism.

Keep trying....
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HisXLNC
No.
09:22 PM on 08/16/2012
As my micro-bio says, "No." As in, "No more gun control." I like our gun laws just the way they are. In fact, I think we could stand to lose a few of them.

Thankfully, gun control is thoroughly unpopular in all but the most extreme circles. Few citizens and even fewer politicians care about gun control. In fact, there are more Americans who believe in UFOs than there are Americans who think we need more gun control.
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Colorado Hunter
Now a Idaho Hunter
04:57 PM on 08/16/2012
Sanjay, Gun Control is not Crime Control, When will you learn that simple concept when there are so many examples to look at, Chicago, NY, LA, Do some homework
12:46 PM on 08/16/2012
Every criminal convicted of a violent felony wiile using a firearm should serve a mandatory 20 years, no plea barging, no time for good behavior.
05:05 PM on 08/18/2012
Excellent after the fact solution.
09:00 PM on 08/18/2012
Last time I checked we still don't have a department of pre-crime. Banning AR's AK's semi-auto and auto's will not prevent those willing to sacrifice their lives and freedoms from killing and maiming. It is impossible to ban all methods of mass killing, next time the guy comes in with a dozen molotov cocktails. Throwing them at the exits and the first few rows. Then gas will be banned and bottles and rages. You can always put a cop in every theater, hire security everywhere and pay double for everything.
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Tim Woodard
string free and lovin' it
03:25 AM on 08/19/2012
like cops... cops don't prevent crime silly boy, the are just for punishing crime.
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Dennis Santiago
Asymmetric Provocateur
12:38 PM on 08/16/2012
The view of a World War II veteran about the 2nd Amendment,
"By calling attention to a well-regulated militia for the security of the Nation, and the right of each citizen to keep and bear arms, our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy. Although it is extremely unlikely that the fear of governmental tyranny, which gave rise to the 2nd amendment, will ever be a major danger to our Nation, the amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic military-civilian relationship, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason I believe the 2nd Amendment will always be important." -- John F. Kennedy
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10:36 AM on 08/17/2012
Remarably accurate.
05:08 PM on 08/18/2012
When the North Koreans parachute into your neighborhood, legalsparrow, we know we can count on you for defense.

When seconds count, the 1st Air Cavalry is hours away.

Long live the NRA.
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wolflover3825
Hungry Like the Wolf.
07:24 AM on 08/18/2012
That quote is a keeper. I'm adding it to a list of other quotes that I am saving. Thanks.
08:19 AM on 08/16/2012
Before you start spouting off on gun control, you might want to familiarize yourself with the topic. Automatic weapons are not available to the general public. You mean semi-automatic weapons.
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Dennis Santiago
Asymmetric Provocateur
12:40 PM on 08/16/2012
He probably means air soft.
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swatcapt
03:11 PM on 08/18/2012
automatic weapons are available to the public so long as some requierments are made.