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Media Coverage of Stanford's Organic Foods Study is Half Baked

Posted: 09/04/2012 5:16 pm

The study, published today in Annals of Internal Medicine, is covered everywhere. But a dozen major news outlets' headlines have missed the point.

"Study Questions Advantages of Organic Meat & Produce" says the New York Times. "Organic Food No Healthier than Non-Organic: Study," says Reuters. This one wins the prize for wrong-headedness: "Organic Food Adds No Vitamins for Extra Cost," stumbles Business Week.

Informed buyers of organic aren't expecting to get more vitamin C from their strawberries. It's what's not in the strawberries that makes organic better: toxic pesticides. And it's what's not running off the fields and into the water supply. And it's what's not poisoning the people who work in those fields, and the honeybees who pollinate them.

Most of the poorly headlined articles springing up around this "news" eventually mention -- several paragraphs below -- that organic produce is less likely to contain pesticides, and organic meats are less likely to be contaminated with antibiotic resistant bacteria. That's no small benefit.

People love to point out that organic costs more, and sometimes the cost differential is significant. But if more buyers demanded pesticide free food, the cost differential would narrow significantly. Only when good practices are the mainstream instead of the exception, efficiency can thrive. Alarmist headlines only get in the way.

Sarah Pinneo is a food writer, and the author of Julia's Child (Plume 2012) and The Ski House Cookbook (Clarkson Potter 2007.)

 
 
 

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The study, published today in Annals of Internal Medicine, is covered everywhere. But a dozen major news outlets' headlines have missed the point. "Study Questions Advantages of Organic Meat & Produc...
The study, published today in Annals of Internal Medicine, is covered everywhere. But a dozen major news outlets' headlines have missed the point. "Study Questions Advantages of Organic Meat & Produc...
 
 
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11:56 AM on 09/09/2012
It's interesting that this "news" is announced approaching the vote for California Prop 37 that aims to label GMO foods.

It's also interesting that one of the co-authors of this "study" is Ingram Olkin, who was funded in the past to use less scientific methods to deny the ties between cigarettes and lung cancer. That seems to be Olkin's schtick... reworking statistics to support lies for big corporations.
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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
03:16 PM on 09/09/2012
why do people like you always scream conspiracy when you don't like the data?
10:14 AM on 09/10/2012
I think you read my post and accidentally the whole thing.
11:51 AM on 09/08/2012
Any thought that there are mysterious, lingering, " long term effects" from eating GM food is ridiculous. Every product that has been approved by the USDA and EPA has data showing what happens to the protein in a human stomach. They are broken down into tiny peptides or all the way to amino acids within 10 minutes. Your body has no way of knowing if the amino acid comes from a transgenic protein or from meat or fish or beans. Once disassembled, it is just an amino acid and that is what your stomach does- disassembly.
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Sarah Pinneo
06:31 PM on 09/09/2012
The edibility of GMOs is a very interesting point. The very idea of a food being edible is really quite a simple one--a food is edible if you are better off eating it than starving. But that doesn't mean GMOs are a good idea.

Both human health and the biosphere are jeopardized by the bugs and diseases which adapt to GM'ed crops. And this is already happening. Even testing GM'ed crops is a danger to the environment, and government oversight is woeful thanks to the powerful big food lobby.

This renders your comment -- much like the Stanford study in question here -- unfortunately beside the point.
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TwoZeroOZ
12:38 PM on 09/10/2012
As per usual, no links to support such wild claims....
05:28 PM on 09/10/2012
Bugs and diseases do adapt to GM crops, that is simply evolution. They have also adapted (in 2 separate ways!) to CROP ROTATION in corn rootworms. One variant has evolved to lay it's eggs in soybean fields expecting corn next year and the other has developed a 2 year diapause- the eggs simply don't hatch until exposed to 2 winters and corn has been planted again. And yes, weeds are developing resistance to herbicides but we still have 20 years of 4 fewer trips of tractors through the fields in endless cultivation cycles for weed control and all the CO2 released thereby. And all the 'superweeds' evolved naturally- no release of transgenes is causing it. Just because insects evolve around crop rotation, doesn't mean we shouldn't use it. Just be smarter and adapt as well.
It is beside the point for you sadly because you are not looking the data and thinking about it. Listen to your argument in the second paragraph. It starts with your conclusion, it doesn't build up to it from facts. A classic error in the study of Logic. It is like the accusation, 'so when did you stop beating your wife?'. When you start with the answer you already hold dear, you aren't looking at data.
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Rachel Flanagan
01:47 PM on 09/07/2012
Mother Earth has provided all the seeds I need. Eating GMO free for 1 year, it's difficult but can be done.
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TwoZeroOZ
03:56 PM on 09/07/2012
Then you should probably revert back to the original corn seed, and not the genetically-altered corn that humans have been eating for the last 150 years.

Ah wait who am I kidding? To get the ORIGINAL "nature-only, non-human-genetically-altered" seed, you'd have to go back 1000 years... Good luck with that.
04:03 PM on 09/10/2012
A bunch of Organic Foods beat you up when you were a little boy, didn't they?

It gets better.
01:16 AM on 09/08/2012
that's good. i only eat organic corn and as much organic food as I can. back in 2001 they created a GM corn that makes people sterile. that was 12 years ago. it's dirty science by dirty minds and I don't support it.

http://www.biotech-info.net/conception.html
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Rachel Flanagan
11:01 AM on 09/08/2012
Morning Pasha, thank you for posting the link. I too only eat organic corn and avoid canola oil which is difficult as so many restaurants use it. I wish more would use coconut oil. I'm rarely in a supermarket and am lucky to have a co-up.
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TwoZeroOZ
12:41 PM on 09/10/2012
Sorry, but that link is bogus. Biotech-info is a anti-science website that fabricated it. There is no such thing as a "contraceptive corn".

In fact, it seems only the uneducated would fall victim to it, as the statement "We have a hothouse filled with corn plants that make anti-sperm antibodies" is so ridiculous to anyone with even just mediocre knowledge in biology and modern technology.

No, it's entirely made up. Thanks for proving once and for all that the anti-science crowd will resort to fantasy straw men, because they simply have nothing else to fall back on.
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Rachel Flanagan
01:22 PM on 09/07/2012
I'm a consumer and when I eat non-organic food it's tasteless and has been for years. I eat for taste and nutrition that's why I always buy from the farmers market or organic. I don't care if it costs more. Eating healthy in America is the BEST health insurance you can buy.
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TwoZeroOZ
03:58 PM on 09/07/2012
"I eat for taste and nutrition"
1) I wish you bothered to read the article, but nutrition between organic food and non-organic is EQUAL.
2) In blind taste tests, even the most pro-organic nuts failed to identify between organic and non-organic. It seems your experience can be explained by cognitive bias.
12:26 PM on 09/07/2012
Continuation of an earlier comment.
How about disease control? Many organic growers (and conventional growers) use copper sulfate to control some fungal diseases. This chemical will be in the soil at high levels for decades after repeated use, but that's fine since we call it "organic". Actually, copper sulfate is an inorganic salt while the modern fungicides produced by the evil agrichemical companies are organic molecules that break down over time. (Yes some of the early pesticides had some bad properties, but so did some of the early medicines.)

The bottom-line, in most ways, organic production is worse for the environment than conventional cropping practices. The supporters of organic foods need to obtain a better understanding of agriculture before they espouse on topics about which they are completely ignorant.

One parting thought, as the desire for biofuels (ethanol) increases, the need for higher yields will also increase. That will require the cultivation of even more sensitive acres to produce low yielding organic crops. Or, maybe we should just increase our use of fossil fuels.
12:25 PM on 09/07/2012
Most people promoting organic crop production are very idealistic and completely ignorant about crop production. In many cases, organic farming is worse for the environment. Just a couple things to think about. Organic farmers cannot use herbicides for weed control so they rely on tillage. This causes more erosion which results in more sediment in our streams which can damage aquatic environments. Contrary to the claims, yields from organic productions are much lower than with conventional production. Therefore, more land has to be farmed and taken away from wildlife to produce the same amount of crops as with conventional production. Also, since organic production does not allow the uses of inorganic nitrogen yields land is often rotated into a legume just to build N. This is good, but removes more land from production and will again result in more environmentally sensitive land being farmed.
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Sarah Pinneo
01:38 PM on 09/07/2012
Hmm... in one comment you say that approved-for-organic chemicals are damaging, and in another you mention that "organic farmers cannot use herbicides...so they rely on tillage." How can both be true?

Your comments would read more forcefully if they were accompanied by credentials.
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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
07:19 PM on 09/07/2012
the chemical pesticides used on organic farms are insecticides and fungicides. there are no organic herbicides approved for use. therefore to get rid of weeds on organic farms there is a huge reliance on tillage, fuel and labor. the increased tilling makes the soil on organic farms very prone to erosion. my credentials??. i am a farmer with an MSdegree in an ag science. and your credentials are what exactly?
05:48 PM on 09/10/2012
Credentials? Um. What are yours?
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TwoZeroOZ
02:57 PM on 09/06/2012
"This one wins the prize for wrong-headedness: "Organic Food Adds No Vitamins for Extra Cost," "
Really? What's wrong with that. It's perfectly factual. Regardless of whether people care is completely irrelevant.

The headlines are not saying "Organic has no benefits!".

THIS headline, however, is completely ridiculous.
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Iam12Vote
Now With MORE Micro Bio!
11:33 AM on 09/06/2012
Uh huh.

Well folks where's the information about the nutritional difference between a modern hybridized square tomato grown for color and ship ability and an heirloom from the 1960's? Or the difference between a hybrid peach that crunches when it's ripe, because it's been bred with apple genetics to ship better; versus an actual fresh peach like the ones we used to grow when the distance from farm to market was 50 miles not 5,000 miles.

The facts about comparing pre-industrial food with food today are explained here:

The End of Food: How the Food Industry is Destroying Our Food Supply--And What We Can Do About It by Thomas F. Pawlick
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TwoZeroOZ
02:58 PM on 09/06/2012
There's tons of studies on that very subject. One need only look... I'd give you a few, but my gut is saying you'll just reply with a foolish "They're obviously bought and paid for by Monsanto!", so I won't waste my time.
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
10:39 AM on 09/06/2012
Follow the money corporate ag has it's hands in the till for this study somewhere directly or indirectly.
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TwoZeroOZ
02:59 PM on 09/06/2012
False.

But hey, why bother checking for yourself right? When you can just assume that anything that disagrees with you MUST be part of a vast conspiracy.
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Rachel Flanagan
01:28 PM on 09/07/2012
Most other countries (not strong armed by US Big Aggra) have had the common sense to ban GMO's that have NOT been tested on humans. Rats fed GMO's were fine for a generation but the next generation had a high percentage of sterility. STOP DRINKING THE KOOLAID TwoZeroOZ it's not good for you.
08:18 AM on 09/06/2012
Wait until the next study that says "Organic foods use more pesticides than non-organic, they just use less efficient ones."
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Iam12Vote
Now With MORE Micro Bio!
11:42 AM on 09/06/2012
I hope so. The more efficient ones are already linked to higher rates of diseases like cancer in agricultural communities across North America. And 80% of breast milk in America contains traces of non-organic pesticides - because they're designed to be systemic, not to wash off in rain or break down in sunlight. Those traits are sold to farmers as benefits.
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TwoZeroOZ
03:01 PM on 09/06/2012
" The more efficient ones are already linked to higher rates of diseases like cancer"
False.

Glyphosates are 100% completely non-carcinogenic.

Oh, what's that? A Fact that disagrees with you? Let me guess, Monsanto must have had a hand in "lying about that fact", right?
11:13 PM on 09/05/2012
It would seem that the Stanford study should be reassuring to consumers, not controversial. After all, the study found that both organic and conventionally grown produce is very nutritious and safe. So, choose either with confidence but eat more for better health. And, remember, decades of nutrition research has shown that a plant rich diet improves health and promotes a longer life - that research was largely conducted using conventionally grown produce.

Readers who want to learn more about how organic and conventional farmers control pests and diseases should visit safefruitsandveggies.com "Ask the Experts" section. You can also see a recent analysis of pesticide use trends that shows that 2 of the 3 most used pesticides in California are approved for organic use and used by farmers of both production methods.

There is much more information about the safety of organic and conventional produce at safefruitsandveggies.com. Read, learn, choose, but eat more and enjoy!

(By the way, the Stanford scientists received no outside funding for this study because they didn't want to bias their findings. This is clearly stated in the published paper. It is also referenced in the NY Times story.)
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
10:41 AM on 09/06/2012
Might be tho since it's Stanford a private university, it probably has huge endowments from corporate ag. There might be a little bias there.
11:18 AM on 09/06/2012
The fact is that no outside funding was taken and let's remember the study also had to go through the rigorous peer review process at the Annals of Internal Medicine. But, again, why is there any controversy? The Stanford study did not disparage either production system. The study simply found that both conventional and organically grown fruits and veggies are equally nutritious. So choose either, but eat more for better health. It's that simple.
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TwoZeroOZ
03:02 PM on 09/06/2012
Nope. Wrong again.

Some tips: Try finding out facts first before just assuming the ones that you think agree with you best.
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JstDarla
Gone Fishing
07:02 PM on 09/05/2012
What happened to Teach a Man to Fish? We need to teach natural gardening to sustain this world. Just about every neighborhood has an empty lot or two, or fields near. If the owners would just allow neighborhoods to garden on unused land we wouldn't have a problem feeding ourselves. We would be healthier. Time....I have gardened,canned, and freeze most of my life and worked. Smaller scale gardening doesn't take as much as you think if soils are done right. Supplement from fresh markets and you will be surprised at the cost cut in your groceries.
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AngelaQuattrano
I just like to write comments
10:47 PM on 09/05/2012
A lot of those lots have crumbling houses there. Just because a lot is empty doesn't mean poor people can just walk in and start gardening.
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JstDarla
Gone Fishing
12:32 AM on 09/06/2012
Did you not read the part where I said if the owners of that property would allow it?   Geesh!!
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TwoZeroOZ
03:04 PM on 09/06/2012
Local gardening is ridiculously inefficient. The carbon cost of "natural gardening" is a lot higher than efficient mass-production. If we did as you say, we would needlessly accelerate climate change.
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JstDarla
Gone Fishing
05:26 PM on 09/06/2012
I don't agree.  Natural gardening without all the pesticides and depleted soil will grow a more abundant garden.  Just look at what is causing global warming.  Poisons in the sky, soil, water, food, etc.  We need plants to breath and a more natural way is healthier.  We need the birds, bees, and other insects to survive also.  You need to educate yourself futher if you really care!
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Sarah Pinneo
06:00 PM on 09/05/2012
Reading the comments, I notice that many readers make a point here that I missed in my original post, and that's the concept of, as economists put it: external costs.

People love to say that integrated pest management and organic food is more expensive, but often the true costs of it are being pushed (sometimes literally) downstream. If hospitals are spending lots of money fighting antibiotic resistant bacteria, we can thank the prophylactic use of antibiotics in conventional meat. Just because the cost isn't on the supermarket sticker doesn't mean it isn't real.
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JstDarla
Gone Fishing
06:42 PM on 09/05/2012
Quit eating red meats 10 years ago and went to just range free chicken or turkey when I feel I need meat. I couldn't understand my health at that time with many allergies and muscle problems. After finding out hormones, antibiotics and pesticides were on my allergy list causing these problems from what I was eating. After eating right all those problems went away. I garden, eat organic on most things and shop my local fresh markets. I know organic makes a difference. Thank you for your article, hope more listen and start showing big agra they need to stop they are killing this beautiful planet.
05:28 AM on 09/06/2012
Free range means having a door in the coop opened to an outside area for 15 minutes a day.
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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
07:14 PM on 09/05/2012
and the result of increased fuel use on organic farms versus energy efficient farms using GMO results in more pollution and global warming from organic.

so yes you are right, we must look at all external costs
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12:06 AM on 09/06/2012
Go away Monsanto worm.
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12:15 AM on 09/06/2012
Interesting assertion.

We use very very little petroleum on our organic farm, so little that we don't even factor it in as a cost.

Keep spreading lies for big ag though.
06:00 PM on 09/05/2012
This study is bogus misinformation doesnt even mention GMO (genetically modified organisms and crops) which is a HUGE part of non-organic industry and has huge implications on health!! There are studies way longer than a few years linking GMO (non-organic) food to problems that this study does not mention.

BTW ALL FOOD AND EVERYTHING USED TO BE ORGANIC FOR EONS UNTIL HUMANS STARTED MIXING IN CHEMICALS, IRRADIATING, AND CHANGING DNA OF FOOD. Everytime you eat non-organic food you poison the planet, life forms, and yourselves for generations to come since it affects the DNA.

check out my page that puts organic food in a conscious persepctive ~ aloha ~

www.organichawaii.org
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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
07:04 PM on 09/05/2012
nonsense. there are literally hundreds of studies showing no problems with GMOs. they are written by actual scientists.
08:02 PM on 09/05/2012
umm.. im not sure what studies you're referencing, but here's a partial list.. just google "gmo study" I hope this wakes you up

19 Studies Link GMO Foods to Organ Disruption
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/04/27/19-studies-link-gmo-foods-to-organ-disruption.aspx

Genetically Modified Soy Linked to Sterility, Infant Mortality in Hamsters
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-smith/genetically-modified-soy_b_544575.html

Russian scientists discover GMO’s cause animals to lose their ability to reproduce
http://www.naturalnews.com/036710_GMO_animal_experiments_infertility.html

Growing fatter on a GM diet
http://sciencenordic.com/growing-fatter-gm-diet

Monsanto's GMO Corn Linked To Organ Failure, Study Reveals
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/12/monsantos-gmo-corn-linked_n_420365.html
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Zonatron
Agrarian Hippie
09:08 PM on 09/08/2012
All bought and paid for by big Ag. Because they claim intellectual property they forbid independent research. Name some non-corporate funded peer reviewed research. Quit sneaking in here we all know who you are. You must be on something because people on pure air wouldnt sell themselves out like you do.
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darttabb
Alcohol, Tobacco, & Firearms. Where's the chips?
05:50 PM on 09/05/2012
Over 2,300 chemicals are allowed on USDA certified organic foods.

That's part of what makes it a mockery.
06:11 PM on 09/05/2012
And the link to that information would be....?
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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
07:09 PM on 09/05/2012
for starters, google "Cornell U organic insect and management". you will see chemicals like the fungicide copper sulfate listed for use on organic farms. it's "natural" you know. it's more hazardous than Roundup.
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darttabb
Alcohol, Tobacco, & Firearms. Where's the chips?
07:48 PM on 09/05/2012
USDA.gov