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The Dormition of the Mother of God

Posted: 08/15/10 11:21 AM ET

Just last week, I and mine observed the Feast of the Transfiguration, one of the Twelve Great Feasts observed by the Eastern Orthodox Church. The feast occurred very near the mid-point of what would otherwise be the two-week long Dormition Fast -- relaxing the fasting rules a bit, and bringing fish to the table. We made bouillabaisse around a nice piece of sockeye salmon. You should have been there.

The Orthodox practice of fasting is often misunderstood. Chief among the reasons for that -- I'm guessing -- is that even most Orthodox are no longer very observant of the practice; even we have become more or less oblivious to the efficacy of fasting, its purposes. Another reason is that, in the West, Christians continue to be unduly influenced by a subtle range of Gnostic attitudes toward the body in general, imagining that the goal of human life is to shed the body altogether and become something like pure spirit.

Oy.

So, from the outside, fasting can look like just another life-denying, body-hating, Gnostic perversion -- not to put too fine a point on it.

Well, body-hating is pretty much the antithesis of our calling, and you'd like to think that a tradition based upon the Incarnation of God might keep that nugget of wisdom firmly in mind. The fathers and the mothers of the Church suppose that much of our trouble comes from being slaves to impulse, from our bodies' being dragged into inexpedient behavior by habit, selfish passion, and all manner of chemical incentive. Judging from my own anecdotal evidence alone, I'd say they're probably right. Such behavior is arguably not so good for the soul or for the spirit; I daresay, over the long haul, it's not so good for the body, either.

The fathers and the mothers, therefore, have counseled that through a bit of on-the-job training, the body and its appetites can be reigned in, so as not to run our entire rig headlong off the cliff. Fasting is one way to wrestle the governance of our persons into something more like a democracy -- where soul and spirit are allowed to have a say -- bringing that selfish despot, the potentially insatiable body, under the equitable rule of law.

All of that is to say that fasting (coupled with prayer) is the means by which the body is actually recovered as a good partner in our person's progress.

In any case, observant Orthodox practice generally calls for fasting (abstaining from meat, dairy, wine, and oil) on most Wednesdays and Fridays. We also abstain from eating anything prior to receiving the Eucharist on Sundays. Besides those weekly practices, the Church calendar includes two greater fasts and two lesser ones. The greater (which is to say the longer) periods are the Advent Fast, the several weeks preceding Christmas, and Great Lent, the several weeks preceding Holy Pascha, our word for Easter. The two lesser fasts are two-week periods at the beginning of the summer (the Apostles' Fast) and now, toward summer's end (the Dormition Fast).

This Sunday, August 15, our brief fasting period ends as we celebrate another of our Twelve Great Feasts, the Feast of the Dormition of the Mother of God -- better known in the Western Church as the Assumption of Mary. "Dormition" is a handy, Latinate figure for her "falling asleep"; in the Greek, the word is "kimisis," (κοίμησις), and is the word from which our "cemetery" derives.

These words are significant, primarily, for their acute reconfiguration of what folks have long characterized as death, as outright demise. In our tradition, then, by Christ's having "undone death by death," by His having burst the hold death once had on us, human persons no longer succumb to death and to the body's utter dissolution. Au contraire. They fall asleep. And they await a one-day awakening.

The Dormition of the Theotokos, the God-bearer, is the day we commemorate her falling asleep.

It is something else, as well.

As the Theotokos lay dying -- tradition has it -- all the Apostles were miraculously drawn to her bedside, save Thomas, the famously tardy. In their presence, she fell asleep, and was thereafter entombed. Arriving three days later, Saint Thomas, desiring to see her one last time, compelled the others to open her tomb. To the puzzlement of all, her body was not there.

The event has become understood as her bodily "Assumption" into -- as we say of the presence of God -- Paradise. It has become a symbol of our own bodily resurrection, an image of how even our bodies will one day be recovered by the life-giving power of the risen Christ.

The icon of this feast day is a very moving one, showing as it does the Apostles gathered around her at the point of her falling asleep. It shows, as well, the Christ, attending her departure, and holding in his arms -- in an image that recollects the image of His own swaddled, infant Self embraced by her at His Nativity -- the Mother's shrouded spirit.

I offer this ekphrastic poem as a commentary, and as a token of love:

Dormition

Most blessed among all women and among
the mass of humankind,
in this fraught image our mother is asleep.

She lies arms crossed and, notably, across
the spacious foreground
upon an altared bed, her head upraised

upon a scarlet robe,
and we surround her strange repose perplexed
by grief that couples homage

nonetheless. Not we, exactly, but our holy
antecedents, whose bright
nimbi gleam undimmed despite their weeping.

Here again the icon serves
to limn the artifice of time, drawing
to this one still point a broad

synaxis of the blessed, including some
whose souls unbodied have
preceded her to Paradise. Most are bent

in sorrow; several raise a hand to meet
fresh tears. They mourn the dire
severing of blesséd soul from blesséd body.

Leaning in, Saint Peter
lifts the censer with a prayer. Saint Andrew
nearly falls upon the bier.

Saint James Alpheus looks away, or looks
for solace to Saint Luke,
whose eyes--like those of Saints Heirtheus

and adjacent brother James--
direct us to the cupola behind our grief,
from which the risen Christ

attends the mother's solemn funeral
even as he bears her
gleaming spirit in his arms, where she,

so meek the weeping pilgrim might have missed her,
rests swaddled in her shroud,
waiting to be borne to Him, and bodily.

 
 
 

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Just last week, I and mine observed the Feast of the Transfiguration, one of the Twelve Great Feasts observed by the Eastern Orthodox Church. The feast occurred very near the mid-point of what would ...
Just last week, I and mine observed the Feast of the Transfiguration, one of the Twelve Great Feasts observed by the Eastern Orthodox Church. The feast occurred very near the mid-point of what would ...
 
 
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08:55 PM on 08/18/2010
The only decent article on Christianity and Christian beliefs i ever read on the Post blog
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Soror quaerens lucem
07:58 PM on 08/17/2010
I LOVE this post, Thank You.

I just spent a few days with Carmelite nuns at their monastery during an especially difficult period . By chance I attended vespers on August 15th which also happenned to be my father's B-day (he passed a few years ago). In any case the Carmelites struck me as a powerful group of women that underscore the importance of Mary and one sister in particular spoke to me about the Assumption and its significance.Her words stayed with me and so I was drawn to your post.

Though Catholic I had never taken in the importance of Mary yet after my days with them that has turned around completely.
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08:57 AM on 08/18/2010
Thank YOU! Good journey.
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Noisyguy
04:05 PM on 08/17/2010
If god created the universe, who created god? I would think that's where the real power lies.
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HawaiianLady
My name means Gift of God.
01:45 PM on 08/18/2010
Check out Thomas Aquinas and the proofs of God's existence. The Prime Mover proof is the one you're looking for.

God is uncreated. He moves everything else.
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Noisyguy
03:00 PM on 08/18/2010
Immortality by its very nature disallows self-awareness. One needs consciousness in order to keep from getting killed, but if one was truly immortal one would also then be indestructible. Consciousness just wouldn’t serve any purpose for the eternal. The gods are clueless and useless.
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DrBlizzardo
02:52 AM on 08/17/2010
I just love this story. God creates the universe, creates everything, good, evil, sin, as well as our lovely little planet, creates man and woman in his own image, gives them free will but not the knowledge of good and evil. Then, this all-knowing, all merciful god becomes enraged with his creation exercises their free will, but because they know not good or evil, don't understand why it's wrong to disobey him.

True to the way he designed them his creation continues to exercise their free will, which upsets the all-powerful god with his all-encompassing plan so much he drowns everybody on Earth except an old drunk and his incestuous family.

Later, he sleeps with another man's wife in a brilliant plot to have himself born human so he can have himself tortured to death in order to save people from the sin he created in the first place. After he dies, he comes back to life but is only seen by a handful of his closest friends, most of whom don;t even recognize him, so he goes off to heaven in a huff and hasn't been heard from for 2000 years despite his express problems to be right back.

Yeah, that's a god I want to worship.
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Soror quaerens lucem
07:50 PM on 08/17/2010
Well go ahead and worship that God.

Ours espouses Love, not ignorance .
07:53 PM on 08/17/2010
An Orthodox priest who is a friend of mine once told me that hell is the absence of God. I do not think that God created evil or sin, but that they come as a result of exercising free will to turn away from God. The above synopsis of Scripture is inaccurate, superficial, and cursive, and it does not persuade one to contemplate the serious questions of the universe and our existence. It's easy to create a debate and win it by setting up a straw man and then knocking him down. It seems to me a proper commentary on this article would be on its substance, rather than to just go around looking for Christians in order to try to dismiss them with a fake argument.
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Soror quaerens lucem
07:59 PM on 08/17/2010
great post.
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DrBlizzardo
01:06 AM on 08/19/2010
Quote: "The above synopsis of Scripture is inaccurate, superficial, and cursive..."

Yeah, I was also rude, derogatory, condescending and, if I'm lucky, blasphemous as well. So? And the Bible is what? Accurate? Hardy. Facile? Not really. I was making fun of what I consider to be a ludicrous religion and its ridiculous, meaningless book.

Also, since you do not seem to know the meaning of the word "cursive", I present for you the definition from Dictionary.com: "Cursive \Cur"sive\, n.

1. A character used in cursive writing. [1913 Webster]

2. A manuscript, especially of the New Testament, written in small, connected characters or in a running hand; -- opposed to uncial. --Shipley. [1913 Webster]

Source: The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48"
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SilentSolidarity
So what do you need? Besides a miracle.
10:44 PM on 08/16/2010
Mother of God, UGH. Roman Catholicism is going right back to Pagan roots.
02:10 AM on 08/17/2010
Oh, I WISH! But no, all of Christianity seems hell-bent on this idea that you can have a Holy Family with a Father, a Son, and a Job Description -- but not a deified Mother. So you get a religion made up of a supremely broken family, with no real expression of the Goddess apart from this poor woman who got sold a bill of goods and only got a lousy t-shirt. Until y'all recognize the importance of the Divine Feminine, you can continue to enjoy the wonderful spiritual world of Christianity, where women are sexless mothers or whores, but either way they'd better keep their mouths shut. Paganism would be SUCH an improvement.
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SilentSolidarity
So what do you need? Besides a miracle.
03:20 AM on 08/17/2010
More exegesis, less eisegesis. Maybe next time. The terms "father" and "son" in scripture have nothing to do with the concept of being someone's biological offspring or God being some kind of family. Even worse, you are assuming that God the father is male! Sheesh. No, thank you. I think Christianity is better off without witches. LOL deja vu.
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03:02 AM on 08/17/2010
Nonsense. If Jesus is the Son of God then Mary is logically the Mother of God.
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SilentSolidarity
So what do you need? Besides a miracle.
03:06 AM on 08/17/2010
Riiiiight. You don't even get the concept behind son. "Son" in scripture is far from the biological "son" you are talking about.
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08:55 PM on 08/16/2010
Scott - Are there variations of fasting in the Easter Orthodox church? Is there anything like deprivation of sleep or dehydration prayer or self mutilation?
All these things should remind us of our humble beginnings.
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10:07 PM on 08/16/2010
Not so far as I know. And these strike me as potentially antithetical to the recovery of wholeness and the noetically reconstituted person-in-the-Image, which is the goal of ascetic practice In the tradition of the Eastern Church. In that tradition, ALL ascetic practice is undertaken with the guidance of a spiritual father (or, in some cases, a mother) whose journey is farther along, someone recognized as a pnevmatikos, a Spirit-bearer.
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slimcat
05:50 PM on 08/16/2010
"...Christians continue to be unduly influenced by a subtle range of Gnostic attitudes toward the body..."

"...just another life-denying, body-hating, Gnostic perversion..."

I don't pretend to speak for modern Christian Gnostics but those statement are certainly show stoppers for me. Even in creative writing, you aren't allowed to distort knowable facts; except in Missouri, I guess. Christian oneupmanship is really sad.
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Scott Cairns
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06:30 PM on 08/16/2010
Not sure what you're taking issue with. You're saying that Christians _aren't_ unduly influenced by Gnostic attitudes toward the physical body, yes? I hope you're right about that, and that my own sense of contemporary American expressions of Chtristianity (that it is paradoxically both materialistic in terms of economics and politics, and Gnostic in terms of human anthropology and piety) is in error. Forgive anything that smacked of crass oneupmanship; my desire is that we all return to the fullness of our Faith, a Faith free of ancient and/or contemporary heresy.
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slimcat
07:51 PM on 08/16/2010
Gnostics do recognize the necessity of the material and are admonished to live and work within this state, to wake up and accomplish what they were sent here to do. That they hate this body or this universe is a gross (or deliberate?) misunderstanding that has been perpetuated many years. Gnostics must be able to see all sides of this existence: good, bad, above and below, and bring them together or they have failed; to put it in the simplest terms.

"...Gnostic in terms of human anthropology and piety..."

I have a BS in Social/Physical Anthropology and I have no idea what that first part means.
As far as piety goes, I would agree that the first Gnostics did have some sway up until Emperor Constantine and the Council of Nicea eliminated anything gnostic from the orthodox church and began a systematic slaughter of gnostic practitioners; a good reason to hide Gnostic Gospels in the desert, I'd say.

"...a Faith free of ancient and/or contemporary heresy."

As Christian Gnostics are still considered heretics by the orthodox church, I take it you (or the Eastern Orthodoxy) would like to continue where they left off?
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12:06 PM on 08/16/2010
Look. If 'God' is NOT an ideation of the mind of Man, of whose mind IS 'God' an Ideation? So does not the existence of 'God' then depend upon the existence of Man? They both can't 'BE', because, if Man is created in the Image of 'God', then 'God' would have to have existed before the presence of 'Man'! And, if 'God' exists ONLY as an ideation in the Mind of Man, then 'God' could NOT have existed BEFORE the existence of Man!

Or are you confused, too?

Brick
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syntax facit saltum
We do not live in a 2 story universe
03:47 PM on 08/16/2010
Obviously then, God is not an ideation. God simply is.
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Andres64
Religion is a sectually transmitted disease.
05:22 PM on 08/16/2010
Evidence?
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pdferguson
Micro-bios? We don't need no stinkin' micro-bios!
08:57 PM on 08/16/2010
Or more reasonably, God is an ideation, as is the notion that "Man is created in God's image".

God simply is (a figment of human imagination).
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William J Unverferth Sr
Snark attack.
09:09 PM on 08/16/2010
God said "I am who am" So God is without cause, the eternal prime cause. This is why Jesus got in trouble when he replied I AM when Pilot asked who he was as he claimed the Godhead.
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10:33 AM on 08/18/2010
Bill, I don't know what kinds of things you 'Believe', and if you wish to 'Believe' that a 'God' said "I am who I am" then you shouldn't mind saying that. But, we also know that 'Beliefs' are not necessarily 'Facts', don't we? And with that being the case, you must admit that YOU 'Believe' the 'God is without cause' IDEA, and all the rest.

What I am saying is that it is MY belief that a 'God' never, ever existed, except in the Mind Of Man (ideation), and more certainly does NOT exist today! We could argue all day about whose 'Belief' system is more creditable than the other, and end up with no agreed upon consensus! It doesn't validate, or invalidate, either of our positions, and still leaves us with no certifiable result.

Finally, some of us should be moved to exhibit 'evidence' to reinforce our 'Belief', shouldn't we? In that light, I would contend that I will come up with more evidence as to a 'God's' NON-existence than You can come up with the opposite notion. Want to try?

Brick
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11:30 AM on 08/16/2010
HawaiianLady

Miracles are becoming almost common-place these days. And, as strange as it may sound, they are, in themselves, no evidence whatever as to proof of Divine mission. Miracles always accompany inspiration as a sign of office: has there been any miracles in this manner since the days of the apostles? No! I know not any!!!
Indeed, Christ's miracles, as Miracles, were no evidence of His Divine Mission. But the real evidence...was that the miracles which He wrought were the very miracles which the Prophetic Word had declared he should work, and which were on that account the sign and seal of His ministry, and formed His credentials from on High. Hense they are so called "signs"!
This is clear from Matt. 11: 1-6. It was not that they were mere miraculous acts, but that they were what God had foretold, and the essence of their testimony..was the truth of God's Word, rather than the power of Christ.
Miracles and wonders, as such, have always been wrought; and will be wrought again by the Dragon, the Beast and the False Prophet.
And while the evidence furnished to the people by their miracles will be the establishment of their false claims: to those who will keep the faith in those days, the evidence will be the truth of God's Word, which has foretold these very miracles you have witnessed yourself. Their miracles will establish their infernal origins, and their "divine" mission!!!!
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HawaiianLady
My name means Gift of God.
08:59 PM on 08/16/2010
Jesus thought miracles were evidence of divine mission; when He cured the paralysis of the man who was lowered on the pallet at his feet, He said it was to show that He had the power to forgive his sins. What could be more clear than that?

God performs miracles to show that He has operated in a certain way. Throughout scripture we have God appearing to tell the world about His Son in miraculous ways ... appearing in the sky, descending on the apostles in the form of a dove, none of which are ordinary manifestations. They're good enough for God to use to make us aware of His doings.

Your theory doesn't hold water. You know nothing about the origin of the miracles at Medjugorje. You're guessing. If Satan is performing the miracles that occur there, it's the dumbest mistake he ever made, because millions of people have turned to God as a result of their experiences in the little village. People come home to pray, to fast, to beg God's forgiveness for their prior lives, to work toward peace in their families. Years afterward they're still clinging to these practices.

I prefer the straightforward way of seeing God's work in the world: If you see it, you say Thank You, God, and go on your way believing. There's no need to go all round Robin Hood's Barn to decide whether something is real or not.
02:32 AM on 08/17/2010
That's really comforting, coming from a deity who had a snit and destroyed all of mankind once already. Gee, feelin' the love. "Come see Jehovah's miracles! Ignore all those other miracles! If it doesn't have the Jehovah (tm) brand name, it can't have any spiritual worth and it's a tool of the Enemy!"

Nice guy, you're deity.
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10:40 AM on 08/16/2010
the entire idea of "virgin birth" is a legacy of the entheogenic cults that were the predecessors of the Abrahamic religions, and in fact all religions. It becomes allegorical when mapped onto the fictional story of any given savior. Unfortunately, the literal Western mind has a hard time with scriptural allegory, so it's become a cult of a "virgin birth" ... go figure...
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DrBlizzardo
02:40 AM on 08/17/2010
Yeah, even Octavian, Caesar Augustus, claimed to be the son of a god AND born of a virgin, forty-two years before ever Jesus was born...not a new fable at all, this one.
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09:47 AM on 08/16/2010
Of course, many Historians have noticed, namely the French, how clear a parallel there was in Astrology and Christian teaching of a coming Saviour. But as the Reverend Joseph Seiss in his seminal work, "the Gospel in the stars", 1882, pointed out "The Mazzaroth" or 12 constellations were a "Proto Evangelium" (primative Gospel) used of God as object lessons of a "coming One, even the "Desire of Nations", of which these starry messages, Nimrod took and turn them into a degraded superstition.
These are of course an integral part of the Caldean Mysteries, hidden within all Myths (and, all "Myths, are about the "gods", not God!) constituting all of Paganism, which the Reverend Alexander Hislop, in his momumental work, "The Two Babylons" declared,(to somewhat paraphrase at this point) "had penetrated every country and every clime, even as it became the radical language of every religion the world over"..which, he wrote..,was "a Mighty maze, but not without a plan!"
10:05 AM on 08/16/2010
Bibbidy-bobbidy-boo.
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DrBlizzardo
02:42 AM on 08/17/2010
Danny Kaye!
02:14 AM on 08/17/2010
Well, considering the world started out Pagan and only de-evolved into Radical Monotheism due to political pressures, one would hope that Paganism would be the state to which we naturally return once you get the power-mongers out of religion.
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08:49 AM on 08/16/2010
Oops! I meant to say "Our Lady", this same personage, by the way, was found by the Jesuits who first penetrated into China to gather the "faithful"...were dumbfounded to discover, was already being worshipped by the Chinese under the name Shim Mo, roughly translated "The Mother"...just as they were also worshipping Satan in the figure of a Dragon, of whom the Bible so named, that Snake, the Devil and Satan (what is a Dragon but a big Snake!!). Wherever you see the word "Mother" used as part of the title in all the various Masses and Festivals, whether Catholic or her Sister Orthodox Church in the East, these are the symbolic rituals dedicated to the wife of Nimrod, Semiramis. For nowhere in all Christian teaching or its theology are any human beings allowed God's worship. This is absolutely forbidden...as it is written, "thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and Him only shall you serve".
Of course, we are all perfectly free to give Worth-ship to whomever we so wish, whether it be to movie stars, or other celebrities, or idols or icons, and even this author's faves, that's all fine and good, so long as you realize its not really The God of Creation that you worship.
09:25 AM on 08/16/2010
"its not really The God of Creation that you worship."

What god worthy of worship would not be sickened and disgusted by worship?
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Richard McRae
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11:59 AM on 08/16/2010
I don't even respect mortals that have a desperate need for worship and praise. I definitely wouldn't respect it in a deity.
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HawaiianLady
My name means Gift of God.
12:08 AM on 08/17/2010
It's always a mistake to define God in human terms. "What god worthy of worship" implies there are lots of gods, some worthy of worship, some not, and they are to be judged as humans are judged. How silly. If there's a God at all, and if He created the world and the people in it,, then His nature is unique and worthy of all worship; He's not only a man (although the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity took on that nature in the incarnation). He's not one of many. He's discrete and perfect.

And if He doesn't exist, then why worry about Him and whether or not He wants to be worshipped?
02:34 AM on 08/17/2010
Actually, some of us make no distinction between the Creator and the Creation. And some of us don't have a deity who constantly berates and threatens us. Really, it's kind of nice.
08:29 AM on 08/16/2010
Too bad that Christianity is based on the Roman pagan idea that "God" can impregnate a human, as a result "God" is a man, both father and son. Judaism does not box God with a gender, God has not physical form, human or not, male or female.
10:20 AM on 08/16/2010
Greek not Roman.
10:45 AM on 08/16/2010
the greco roman tradition
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11:57 AM on 08/16/2010
God can raise up children from rocks if he so wishes, so he obvioulsy is able to impregnate a woman. The God of Christianity is all-powerful,i.e, not limited by the imagination of men.
03:56 PM on 08/16/2010
Speaking FOR god, dgr?
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08:18 AM on 08/16/2010
It may seem very "queer" that this personage called "Mary",would be worshipped by Catholics...and Muslims alike, that is, until you see that the Jewish maiden Mariam the actually mother of Jesus, is definitely NOT that historical personage called "the Mother of God". But neither is the Catholic Church...an institution which over a thousand years has hypnotized and relentlessly persecuted actual Christians in Europe...Christian. But, with its "Caldean priesthood" is wholly Babylonian.
Just where do we see in the New Testament, the apostles..all Jews, not less-who turned their backs on Temple-worship (after its destruction, there could be no priests!, especially without animal sacrifices-there are no priests in Christianity!!!) hand over the fully formed priestly system along with the Bishop's Miter, the fish head dedicated to Dagan, the fish-god,(worn by the Pope... to the Pagans in Rome?
No, this is Nimrod... and his wife Semiramis, the Nephilim-offspring of fallen angels, whose spirits are still extant... are so worshipped the world over in these ancient Caldean Mysteries.
Who is Santa Claus.... with his red clothes, huge belly and fatherly image, but Nimrod-the giver of gifts of natural sciences, his color, that of Satan, and his belly, indulgent Debauchery-the spirit of Christmas.
And who is his wife, Semiramis...known by a thousand names, but lately "The Madonna". a corruption of Mea Domnia. "Our Mother", the same Goddess worshipped by Catholics, Muslims, and Feminists.
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William J Unverferth Sr
Snark attack.
09:23 PM on 08/16/2010
Rember in the NT those called presbyters, deacons and episkapoi (greek) translates into english as priest, deacon and bishop,. The same holy orders we have today. Separate and different from the terms used to describe the Aronic priesthood.
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HawaiianLady
My name means Gift of God.
12:16 AM on 08/17/2010
Mary is not worshipped by Catholics, any more than you worship your grandmother. We know who she is, and we know she is and always was a human being, not a goddess. Get the facts right, even if you disagree with them.

I sense that you have a lot of fun putting together these goofy legends out of the bits and pieces you have in those esoteric volumes piled on your dusty tables. Have your laughs, but get Mary straight. She's not at all vengeful, but she might call you on it one day.
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DrBlizzardo
02:45 AM on 08/17/2010
Anytime you build a statue, offer prayers and sacrifice (lighting candles)and ask for supernatural intercession in your life, it is ipso facto and by definition "worship" whether you wish to 'fess up to it or not.
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08:18 AM on 08/16/2010
if god had a mother then who was his dad? who were their parents?
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Richard McRae
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12:00 PM on 08/16/2010
This would take too much time to explain. Go back and start over, then come in here and we can have a discussion.