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Would Romney Be Worse for Medical Marijuana Than Obama?

Posted: 05/09/2012 8:38 am

President Obama has been taking a lot of well-deserved heat for his disjointed and disappointing approach to medical marijuana. Of course, with an election approaching, Obama supporters are struggling to explain why the many Americans who care deeply about this issue should support this president following his badly broken promises and recent false statements. An argument I've been hearing a lot is that Mitt Romney would be even more of a monster when it comes to medical marijuana policy.

But why would anyone assume that? Because he's a Republican? Obama's been worse on this issue than George W. Bush ever was, so what's to say he wouldn't be worse than Romney too? There's no logical basis at all for assuming that one party is just automatically going to be better when it comes to respecting state laws that protect medical marijuana patients. A strong majority of voters on the left and the right support medical marijuana, so it's not like Romney's supporters are asking him to go on the attack.

Sure, we've heard Romney say he's not in favor of medical cannabis, but only when he's been pressured for a comment on it. His statements have been brief and evasive, utterly lacking the vigorous drug warrior convictions often attributed to him. Romney certainly isn't running around on the campaign trail making threats or saying anything at all to justify the knee-jerk assumption that he'd be more of a horror show than the aggressively anti-pot president we already have.

Anyone who wants to argue that Romney would be worse when it comes to medical marijuana should begin by explaining how. Really, how would he be worse? The Obama Administration is already doing every single awful thing that can be done short of suspending all other federal law enforcement functions and spending the next 4 years demolishing dispensaries one at a time. They're raiding businesses, prosecuting providers, intimidating landlords, suing operators on bogus tax claims, threatening to arrest state regulators, blocking medical research, and even banning gun ownership by patients. I honestly doubt Romney could be any worse than this if he tried.

For some horrible reason, the Obama Administration is at war with medical marijuana on every imaginable front and it's ridiculous to rationalize any of this with fictitious partisan comparisons. That's pure political hackery that serves only to distract us from placing the blame where it belongs. Anyone who wants to help re-elect the president should stop making excuses for what he's done and instead insist that he clean up his act before November.

Looking at the polling on medical marijuana, you'd think the debate would be over which candidate supports it more, not who hates it less.

 

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12:12 AM on 07/01/2012
not worse, not better either. a vote for either candidate is a vote for cold hearted tyranny.

need proof? here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY6UTnS6Z-A
11:49 AM on 05/29/2012
If you want someone who will be good on medical marijuana, the choice is Gary Johnson.
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Jose3
09:49 PM on 05/17/2012
What difference does it make? I will not vote for either one.
08:11 AM on 05/17/2012
the people need to vote to legalize. Not wait for a politician to get them there.
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01:01 PM on 05/15/2012
Yes. Next question.

(He could be prosecuting patients, which the Obama Administration has not done. See the factual background for the case of Gonazles v. Raiche, please).
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American46
Neither Party
12:11 PM on 05/13/2012
Would Romney Be Worse for Medical Marijuana Than Obama?

From what I have been able to ascertain from all available sources the answer is Yes. When it comes to Marijuana, Mitt Romney is a dinosaur.
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Robert SF
12:48 PM on 05/13/2012
But how? What could Romney do that's worse than what Obama has done?
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kevin hunt2012
12:24 PM on 05/14/2012
I suppose a President Romney could order the DEA to go after individual patients for possession of dime bags or cultivation of three plants?
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American46
Neither Party
10:42 AM on 05/15/2012
Robert SF. Here is but one example:

American 46 post:
“I know nothing of the cannabis politics of Michigan and I know absolutely nothing about
Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette. However, I can make 2 assumptions based on this article, either of which may be true. 1. He is grossly ignorant of cannabis use in the U.S. OR 2. He has some financial or political gain to be made by criminalizing the use of this plant. Both assumptions could be true.

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Adam DeVaney on Jan 9, 2012 at 17:22:02
“Both in Schuette's case. He has run out of jobs here in Michigan (having been in the House, the Appeals Court and now the Executive Branch). His ambitions are for a national position. Let me tell you, we are very concerned about a Republican getting into the WH (namely Romney) and appointing him to the national Attorney General position. If this happens, I apologize in advance.”
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12:12 PM on 05/14/2012
You're making the point that Mr. Morgan stated in his article, HOW would Romney be worse?
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01:04 PM on 05/15/2012
Romney would prosecute individuals for possession, even patients, like Bush did. Obama has not done that.
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American46
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03:00 PM on 05/15/2012
I sorry low to, but for some reason HP will not post my replies on this issue.
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markspence
09:51 PM on 05/11/2012
There is a synthetic cannabinoid which has all the therapeutic vaule of "medicinal" marijuana without any of the problems with impairment: Nabilone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabilone
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Robert SF
12:48 PM on 05/13/2012
If it has the same therapeutic value, how can it be better when it's more processed and more expensive?
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markspence
03:40 PM on 05/13/2012
From the side effect standpoint, it's better because there's no impairment. You can take the medication in the morning, and then get in your car and safely drive to work and be productive. Those things are possible with smoked marijuana.
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01:38 AM on 05/14/2012
You had me until synthetic.
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Sean Jennings
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06:19 PM on 05/11/2012
Excuse me but how is "I’m not – I’m not – I’m not in favor of medical marijuana" by Mitt Romney brief and evasive? Seems like it is pretty clear to me he is AGAINST IT! And he is Mormon for God sakes. Just look at Utah. They barely let people drink in that state. It is illegal for a citizen to even possess a keg of beer in Utah. Attention Cannabis consumers....don't be fooled...Mitt is anti-cannabis. Plain and simple. Obama is slow on his word but like Gay marriage, he will one day follow through.
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07:02 PM on 05/12/2012
So is Obama.He's stated his opposition many times.If you want to get something done about drug reform you need to look to Gary Johnson his polices are clear.
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Sean Jennings
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08:03 PM on 05/12/2012
I like Gary Johnson trust me but it is hard to believe he can win. I'm just trying to be practical about the choices. Obama in 2007 said, “My attitude is if the science and the doctors suggest that the best palliative care and the way to relieve pain and suffering is medical marijuana then that’s something I’m open to because there’s no difference between that and morphine when it comes to just giving people relief from pain."
To me that means Obama considers cannabis a medical treatment and I think he will remove it from Schedule 1 sometime during his 2nd term. Gary Johnson 2012.
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kevin hunt2012
01:10 PM on 05/14/2012
Utah lawmakers consider ban on cold beer
Published: 1/24/2008 3:26 pm
SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - ABC 4 News has learned that a proposal to ban the sale of cold beer is now being talked about by some powerful Utah lawmakers.

According to a very well placed capitol source, the idea of selling only warm beer actually came up Tuesday at the senate's republican caucus.

Reportedly, here's the thinking behind introducing and passing a warm beer bill in the legislature.

If beer at Utah grocery or convenience stores had to be sold warm, that might discourage people from drinking beer right away or from drinking as much.

But one beer drinker we talked to brought up the following point, saying, "A lot of beer isn't filtered. It has live organisms in it which will actually spoil if it’s warm for too long."

Now, ABC 4 News is being told the senator who raised this idea has been told to study it more and then report back to the republican caucus.

So, at this point, its not clear if there will be a warm beer bill or law this year.

But, as you might imagine, this has been a pretty hot or warm topic at the capitol.

Not only did several other legislators confirm that this idea has come up, but also one jokingly suggested you could accomplish the same thing by only selling frozen beer.
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Sean Jennings
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05:46 PM on 05/11/2012
Ahm...have IQs dropped sharply in the past few months. Romney has said countless times, "If you are for medical Marijuana THEN DON'T VOTE FOR ME". But OK author, if you want to blather on....go right ahead.
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Robert SF
12:52 PM on 05/13/2012
The author's point is that all presidents are limited by reality, by Congress, by budgets, etc. So no matter what Romney's attitude is, Obama is already fighting marijuana harder than ANY president before him, including Ronald Reagan and George Bush. That means that Romney could not fight marijuana harder even if he does dislike it more than Obama.
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Sean Jennings
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03:03 PM on 05/13/2012
I think people are mistaking Obama fighting Medical Marijuana with him being more hands off and the DEA being more aggressive. If you compare directives of Obama and Bush, there is little difference. The difference has occurred in A) dispensaries being more brash with selling and B) Obama not standing his ground on what he actually believes(kinda like his evolving gay marriage deal).
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Robert Gudzikowski
free,natural,harmless,individual
12:30 PM on 05/11/2012
I'll just bet that they will "change" their tune when election time grows near even though the people that understand the exploitation of cannabis by both factions. It will cost votes to make a stand against the medical viewpoint.
I can't blame them for not standing tall on the issues that have surfaced from the medicalization rhetoric during an election year. I personally think its going to cost somebody the election if they get on board with it then fail to deliver the goods. After all it is a godsend from man!
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EdRea
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06:48 AM on 05/11/2012
Romney would be as bad, if not worse on the matter of medical marijuana. Simply based on the fact that since Obama has crossed a certain line, there's no way that a Republican president being pushed along by an extremist conservative movement is going to want to appear weaker than a progressive Democrat (a "socialist") on the matter of the War On Drugs.

Bush may have been showing signs of more leniency on the issue of medical marijuana, but he was not beholden to the Tea Party -- it didn't exist yet. This element, as we know, is schizophrenic in its positions on whether government is too intrusive or not. This is an area where they see no discrepancy with their small government "philosophy" (read: justification for wanting things their way).

If anybody thinks that Romney will reverse federal direction on this issue in today's political climate, with an conservative extremist movement successfully moving government to the right, they are sadly mistaken.

If you want to see this trend reversed, a stronger presence of Democrats and committed progressive independents needs to happen in Congress, as well as Obama staying in the White House four more years. We may or may not see Obama changing tack on the issue (hopefully we will) -- but, if Romney gets in the White House -- you can kiss even a long-term strategy of success goodbye.
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Robert SF
12:53 PM on 05/13/2012
But how could Romney be worse? Be specific. He's practically have to have people executed on sight to be worse than Obama. You just don't realize how bad Obama has been on this issue.
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06:22 AM on 05/11/2012
There is only one candidate who is truly strong on the issue of marijuana. Ron Paul.
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Robert SF
12:54 PM on 05/13/2012
Ron Paul is not in favor of marijuana. He simply doesn't believe it's a federal issue, but he does believe it's a state issue, and he does believe it should be illegal.
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04:12 AM on 05/14/2012
You are correct.  I don't believe I ever stated otherwise.  That position makes Paul the strongest on the issue of marijuana, since every other candidate out there is all for prosecuting the heck out of everybody, and overriding state laws on the matter.
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420
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07:48 PM on 05/10/2012
The Feds are after medical marijuana dispensaries because they ARE NOT following state law. If you want to make a real change ask congress to change their views, the GOP lead house killed a bill that would have made using federal monies to raid dispensaries illegal. As long as it is against federal law there will issues. Yes it could be worse. In California we need to tighten up or laws on Dispensaries, it is the wild west here.
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Jeremy Echols
01:40 AM on 05/11/2012
This is completely incorrect. In some cases they did only target dispensaries violating state law, but in some recent Colorado situations, the dispensaries were deemed too close to schools by the federal government, but not by the laws in Colorado. As long as we keep saying what the feds are doing is okay, they'll keep pushing harder and making up more and more irrelevant excuses to shut down the cannabis trade.
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markspence
05:27 PM on 05/12/2012
The Attorney General has the authority to enforce Federal law even though the activity may be illegal by state law.
07:04 PM on 05/10/2012
Neither one can make a stand on the issue untill they get the ok from 1% directing them what to say and when to say it. We don`t have politicians, we have puppets!
06:21 PM on 05/10/2012
Some of the comments have left out Romney remarks that could potentially signal that he considers medical marijuana an issue best left to State law, and not Federal law as is the case under the current Obama War on Marijuana. Romney is quoted as saying: “"I'm not running on marriage and marijuana, those are state issues, right? Aren't they?" Taken literally, these remarks could signal a shift to allowing the 17 States that have so far legalized medical marijuana, to carry out the will of the voters in those States unhindered by Federal law.
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kevin hunt2012
12:46 PM on 05/11/2012
It's hard to say because Romney flip flops on the issues constantly.
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Gene Patten
07:02 PM on 05/12/2012
no he does not bo does