I think that Bill Maher is the most talented political pundit of this generation. Since he decided to exclude the right wing nuts from his show, he speaks with much greater credibility. However, his last show was disappointing to me when he essentially marginalized anyone who has doubts about the official 9/11 story. By focusing only upon the controlled demolition theory of the Twin Towers, he excluded a more viable discussion of the collapse of building # 7 that was not hit by anything but the debris from towers 1 and 2. He further criticized those who have other doubts about the official story by intimating that it is ridiculous to believe that our government would attack its own people.
The flaw in that argument is the belief by Maher and other critics that it is absurd to believe that the U.S. Government would attack itself. Those of us who doubt the official story are suggesting that those in high positions in government may have had the motive and opportunity to allow this attack to succeed. This would make it a renegade operation by those in government, not "the U.S. Government." Most of what is done in the name of our government has been hidden from the public since WW II. There are numerous CIA operations in the past 60 years that have been done in the name of our government without the consent of the people.
There are so many failures that took place simultaneously on 9/11 that it is almost an insult to our intelligence to believe that there is no need for further investigation. I agree that government in this administration has been incompetent. However, the unexplained failure of our air defense system and our intelligence agencies goes way beyond incompetence given all that was known by those in government shortly before the event. To use the controlled demolition theory as the sole excuse to argue that those who question the official 9/11 story are in need of Paxil is an insult to those who really want explanations and not just official government self-serving propaganda. And Bill Maher should know better. I would like Maher to explain the other tangible inconsistencies about 9/11 instead of focusing on the controlled demolition theory.
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Dr Judy Wood has collected some of the most compelling evidence that 911 was an inside job. I recommend anyone with an open mind view the RFC she submitted and simply ask themselves the following questions:
1) Where did those 2 buildings go?
2) What powderised or "dustified" them in 20 seconds?
People really believe jets and kerosene can do that? In which case, why were ballistic weapons ever developed? Why not use fuel-filled planes to destroy targets - travelling at slower speeds than missiles.
Oh sorry - it was just gravity - right - the upper 30 floors powderised the lower 70 or so...
Yeah....
I agree.. people definitely should look at the information for themselves and make up their own minds. This is exactly what Dr Wood says... that people should think for themselves. But Jones believes the opposite. He wants people to trust him when he says he found evidence of thermite. If he was so confident in his thermite, why didn't he mention it in his Request for Correction filed with NIST? That RFC doesn't contain one mention of thermite/thermate, nor does it mention molten metal. Why is this? Perhaps he knows that NIST would dismiss his RFC as frivolous!
Dr Wood's RFC, on the other hand, contains all the evidence that is needed to see that directed energy weapons were used on 9/11:
http://drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/NIST_RFC1
Steven Jones is a former Los Alamos researcher who was planted by the government to distract people from the 9/11 directed energy weapon evidence:
http://www.911researchers.com/node/90/
Jones was a plant in 1989 to discredit Cold Fusion as well. Free/cheap/clean energy is very real, but the Powers That Be don't want people to know that. Didn't you read through my source-filled blog?
http://www.911researchers.com/node/125/
Steven Jones was not involved in perpetrating the 'cold fusion' fraud. Rather, his experiments identified the flaws in the cold fusion arguments - and these were supported by much other subsequent research in the field. Actual science.
Unlike Judy Wood's material regarding space based energy weapons.
Further, to argue that the many independent reports of molten steel in the trade center towers is fraud or disinfo is simply disingenuous.
I suggest that anyone who seriously wishes to investigate the event go to the journalfor911research supported by the scholars for 911 truth and justice. Simply review the scholarly articles and make up your own mind. Or go to Jim Hoffman's excellent site 911research . com. He has the most complete and well-researched information on the events of that day.
Regarding your statement: "Further, to argue that the many independent reports of molten steel in the trade center towers is fraud or disinfo is simply disingenuous."
So.... what you're saying is that people shouldn't look at the information after all, but instead should just "trust" these "independent reports" as if they were fact?
WHY NOT FOCUS ON CONTROLLED DEMOLITION?
It is the only explanation for what happened on 9/11, PLUS there's evidence.
Physics Professor, Steven Jones, analyzed debris from the WTCs and found "thermate" a controlled demolition steel cutting agent.
The color of the molten metal pouring out of the towers was the color of molten steel.
Molten steel roiled in the ground zero rubble for weeks after 9/11.
If building fire and jet fuel fire don't produce nearly enough heat to melt steel (see Kevin Ryan, Underwriter Labs whistleblower), then WHERE DID THE MOLTEN STEEL COME FROM?
WHERE DID THE MOLTEN STEEL COME FROM?
WHERE DID THE MOLTEN STEEL COME FROM?
Visit "Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth"
ae911truth.org
and also the many high level military and intelligence experts, calling for a new investigation, and many saying outright, it had to have been an inside job:
PatriotsQuestion911.org
Can you prove there was actually molten steel? What measurements of it were taken? What volume did it comprise?
There wasn't any molten steel. The molten metal stories are fabricated to mislead the "truth movement". See here for a piece-by-piece debunk of ALL the molten metal evidence:
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=91&Itemid=60
Steven Jones is 9/11 and Cold Fusion fraud. See here for information: http://www.911researchers.com/node/125
Jones worked at Los Alamos where directed energy weapons are researched, and he does everything to discourage people from looking at the 9/11 DEW evidence.
Thermite can be purchased on Ebay and therefore cannot be traced to prove an inside job. Jones is leading everyone to a dead end.
See my other comments in this thread for more information on this topic.
For once, my friend, I have to disagree with you on this. As an engineer, I find nothing that needs extraordinary explanation for why these buildings fell. And I find the the concept that this was an American false flag operation is unlikely because of the consequences of being it being ratted out. But I do believe that Bush allowed terrorist to operate knowing that something like this will eventually happen.
-Ben
I wouldn't be too sure.
Here's clips of the WTC steel turning to dust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVRh4U2BlhQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaysznxCBzA
As an engineer, you need to think this out a bit more. It IS being ratted out for starters. First you need a history lesson:
http://halturnershow.com/CongressmanSaysUSDollarWillCollapse.html
There are plenty of good reasons why 9-11 was carried out. None of them involved terrorists.
I agree.. no college degree required to see "inside job" of 9/11, but you're wrong about Dr Wood's work:
Dr Wood's research is solid:
http://drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam1.html
http://drjudywood.com/articles/dirt/dirt1.html
Request for Correction she filed with NIST:
http://drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/NIST_RFC.html
You said her research was "discredited by the main stream of researchers interested in 911 truth".
Why is that? Perhaps the "truth movement" is being controlled? (See the quote by Lenin in my other post.)
ae911truth promotes "molten metal at Ground Zero", but this has been shown to be a hoax. If there was molten metal at GZ, there would have been multiple steam explosions with all that firehose and rainwater. Fire departments don't spray water anywhere near molten metal. The molten metal evidence has been dissected piece by piece and shown to be fabricated. Take a look here:
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=91&Itemid=60
The "GZ molten metal" is propaganda put out by the 9/11 perpetrators to lead people to a dead end.
Bill Maher may be ignorant to WTC 7, but why are so many in the "truth movement" unknowledgeable of WTC3, WTC4, WTC5, and WTC6?
Clear evidence of directed energy weapons!
Round Cylindrical Holes in WTC 5/6:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/CB_Brooklyn/DEW%20Evidence/Image140Resized.jpg
Clean Vertical Cut on WTC4:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/CB_Brooklyn/DEW%20Evidence/Image194Resized.jpg
WTC4 cut in same path as South Tower's north wall. WTC4 building material on other side of cut is missing, and so is the tower!
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/CB_Brooklyn/DEW%20Evidence/Image271Resized.gif
More here:
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=57
See here too:
Directed Energy Weapon Sponsors and Department of Defense Contractors:
http://drjudywood.com/articles/DEWcon/DEW_Contractors.html
Everything is being done to quiet Dr Wood. They killed her 9/11 research student from Clemson University, Michael Zebuhr. They fired her from Clemson. They killed her instructors at Virginia Tech.
It seems to be only a matter of time till the main stream media are covering the real inconsitancies in the official theory. Anderson Cooper had a segment about the E4b flying over Washington during the pentagon attack. I see that some reporters are anxious to investigate all of this but are being stopped by their producers. For how long? I pray that more people awaken to what's happening. Bill Maher needs to do some more digging. He is stuck with the fact that the Bush Adminstration is too incompetent to have carried out the attack. Well, that may be true, but who said that they planned and executed it? They were there to provide cover for those who planned and carried it out, nothing more.
I hope you're right, and that the media start covering all this stuff responsibly. But there's a problem with that idea though...
Has anyone seen this 10 minute analysis video?
It proves corporate media corruption all the way down to the newscaster level. You'll hear newscasters on different NYC channels reading from a script -the same script- on a developing story on live TV:
911 Octopus 8: Media Perps Unmasked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_ySSJ_L6Zs
Watch September Clues on YouTube.
I caught a clip where they are interiewing "a local eyewitness" that later is caught on camera working for the press with a press pass around his neck.
Dr. Judy Woods provides no actual documentation and her arguments have been discredited by the main stream of researchers interested in 911 truth.
That said, many architects and structural engineers have questioned the official government conspiracy theory (OCT) and their arguments are available at ae911truth . org .
However, it does not take a physicist or structural engineer to recognize that basic laws of physics (high school level) were violated on that day.
Of course, there are many many other obvious indicators of nefarious goings-on that day..... for scholarly articles on the subject check out the journal for 911 studies site. Evidence for elements of the government being complicit in 911 is simply overwhelming. Even a forensic neuropsychologist can figure it out.
Maher's comment either reflects abysmal ignorance or ....
beware of cognitive dissonance.
Dr Wood's attorney, Jerry Leaphart, said:
"What I can tell you and the listeners, Kevin, is this. There is more admissible evidence associated with the theory that the World Trade Center was destroyed by directed energy weapons than there is admissible evidence for any single other theory out there that has been promulgated."
Audio clip here:
http://drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/NIST_RFC.html
Maher is scared to lose his show.
Birds of a feather flock together. This is a guy who likes to hang out with whores, what does that tell you?
Is Maher familiar with the following?
Lenin, the first Communist dictator after the takeover of Russia in 1917, is widely credited with the following quotation, "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."
Is it possible the "truth movement" is being controlled and Maher doesn't know it?
Does Maher know the REAL evidence?
Does he know the US District Court in Southern New York recently unsealed a 9/11 "Inside Job" case? A suit filed by Dr Morgan Reynolds is already in the legal system!
Reynolds is represented by attorney Jerry Leaphart.
Did Maher even see the court document?
Anyone can view the court PDF file here: http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=federal_case
And why hasn't Maher looked at Dr Judy Wood's evidence for directed energy weapons at the World Trade Center, and the official filings of Request for Corrections with the government?
http://drjudywood.com
I was surprised by Bill's comments too. He may be right on this one, though, as Paxil will relieve the anxiety for anyone still waiting for anyone in the media or govt to actually provide a forum with key individuals to actually provide some decent answers to the holes in the "official" conspiracy theory. And Bill, who is one of the few who could actually mediate a discussion has obviously punted - guess he realizes it'll be Bye Bye HBO if he were to be so daring.
Of the Bush Adminstration had and has NOTHING to hide. That's why they fought tooth, nail and claw the establishment of the 911 commission. And of course Bush and Cheney only testified together and not under oath and not on record--nothing to hide!
Back to sleep little ones.
Good article Sheldon. I once mocked 9/11 conspiracies myself until I took the time to watch the documentary 9/11 Mysteries.
I believe planes did hit the buildings, but there is no way that 3 buildings fell from 2 plane crashes.
There's no way all 3 of those buildings could fall at free fall speed without it being a controlled demolition.
And are we truly to believe that 3 steel buildings fell due to fire on that one day when prior to that NO steel buildings fell due to fire.
Bill is arrogant to believe he has the answers when he's obviously never reviewed the evidence. If he HAS seen 9/11 Mysteries or heard Richard Gage's talk on controlled demolitions and he still is saying what he's saying then he can't be trusted, along with the majority of our media.
Dig deeper, watch SEPTEMBER CLUES on YouTube.
Remember, people are fooled by simple magic tricks.
At the end of the day, 9/11 served as the ultimate event to kick of the neoconservative imperial agenda, long sought after and finally provided by Osama and his extremely "lucky" 19 hijackers:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete911timeline&geopoliticsand9/11=centralAsia
3000 dead. Now that's an opportunity. Yes even the guy in your team may not really care about you.
I do not accept the claim made by Carl Sagan that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No, all that is needed for a real investigation is PROBABLE CAUSE.
Thank You Huffington Post for having this material on your site.
Posted September 17, 2007 | 04:28 PM (EST)