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Can A Science-Minded Child Be Raised Religious?

Posted: 01/19/10 12:09 PM ET

A few years ago, my husband and I took our three children to Pompeii - the ruined and partially buried Roman city near Naples, Italy. As one of the most spectacular sights one can see in a lifetime, I was sure my children would be forever affected by their firsthand encounter with the history of this special place, destroyed during an eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 A.D. but rediscovered in 1738.
As I looked upon the children, my chest puffed out with the pride of a parent trying desperately hard to show her children the world. My suddenly very bored 6-year-old son turned to me and said: "Mommy, I wonder if anyone has ever made an M&M as big as a cookie. Could we try sometime? How could we do that?"
What? How could he say such a thing? Doesn't he realize where he is? I'm reminded of this story today as I struggle with a different and much more complex issue: how to elicit an interest in religion from my overtly cynical and science-minded children.
For years I've been a foreign correspondent and more recently became the author of a biography called "The Fossil Hunter" about an English woman named Mary Anning who helped launch the debate over extinction, evolution, and the earth's real age in the early 1800s. As a result, I've found myself writing and speaking a great deal these days about the reconciliation of science and religion, often preaching to the choir in rooms filled with educated people who understand that the two are not incompatible. But somehow I fear I've failed to make a connection with my own children as I've attempted to get this same message across.
Raised a Christian, I was always taught by my mother to go through life with the faith of a child, a wisdom spelled out in both the Gospels of Luke and Mark. Although I grew to become an endlessly curious reporter, I was never one of those children who asked a heap of searching questions like "Why can't I see angels?"
But the mustard seed of faith planted during my childhood has never left me even at a time where in some circles it's a badge of honor to skate over issues of religion. Today we live in a world marked by one scientific discovery after another, an age when scientists are extracting DNA with the hopes of resurrecting the woolly mammoth while talking about human cloning as a very real possibility.
My children love this stuff. They make straight As in science and physics classes and when they search out information they like to find answers that make sense to them. I'm thrilled about their pursuits but also have worked hard to try to force them to get excited over something they have a tougher time getting their young heads around - religion.
I've read them Bible stories and then cringed when they've begun to laugh. I've prayed with them for friends to get well only to get irritated with them a week later when they ask why the friends are still ill.
Most importantly I've emphasized the mysteries that science can't explain. For example, despite centuries of astronomical observations it is thought that more than 90 percent of the mass in our universe is still undetected.
But I fear that I've been trying too hard and that I need to be sending them the same message I send when I speak to adults about my book: that both science and religion can give explanations that are not in any kind of competition with each other, but rather are complementary. In other words, we can believe that the earth is close to 4.5 billion years old - and also look toward religion for answers about our ultimate purpose in life.
Many of the early scientists were themselves people who saw their faith as the key driver in exploring and understanding the natural world God had created. According to Denis Alexander, director of the Faraday Institute for Science and Religion based in England's Cambridge University, Isaac Newton would have looked puzzled in the 18th century if asked what he thought about the relationship between science and religion.
Alexander says:

For so many centuries science and religion were so closely intertwined that I'm not sure that people would have thought about the 'relationship' between them with the implication that they represent two distinct bodies of knowledge.

In a recent study, Elaine Howard Ecklund, an assistant professor of sociology at Rice University, found that 52 percent of scientists in the United States express no religious affiliation compared with 14 percent of the general public. But - interestingly -- she also found that younger scientists are more likely to express a religious affiliation than older scientists.
And so when my 11-year-old son tells me enthusiastically that - according to new theories -- the earth didn't start with a big bang but actually with an endless series of expansions and rebirths, I will not immediately recoil and wonder why I can't evoke the same sort of elation over Sunday school. Certainly I will continue to encourage my children to see the big picture and not to be blind to the possibility that religion is hugely important. But I will also emphasize and appreciate that they can have an interest in both religion and science and remind myself that belief and inquiry are not mutually exclusive.


 
 
 
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09:41 PM on 02/24/2010
Your children must have an influential non-believer in their lives. This is wonderful, and I applaud their skepticism and criticism. Perhaps someday, they can be influential in opening your eyes - and teach you to be as curious as they are. Religion, especially yours, is not compatible with science. The two overlap - in almost every area. The bible tries/tried to explain where light, humans, morals came from and makes many scientific claims (flat earth, earth centered universe) - the best men could come up with at the time. It tells you what not to eat. -how to act and also what happens when you die. The belief in such tall tales and imaginary creatures and gods can be compartmentalized in our brains while we also use science and reason in other areas, but that doesn't make them compatible. It just says that our brains are complicated enough to entertain cognitive dissonance without going insane...most of the time. Please don't inflict this on your children.
06:57 PM on 03/02/2010
To show the accuracy of the information available in the Bible, I would like to present a verse of scripture from the book, Isaiah. He was a prophet of the God of Israel during the time of the Kings of Israel.

Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Note from this verse that in referring to our planet, we see the words, "...circle of the earth". This exposes Marla's accusation of the Bible as claiming a "flat earth", to be false.
05:01 PM on 01/26/2010
Some things parents do:
- Parents introduce their children to their initial language, by default.
- Parents introduce their children to good personal hygiene.
- Parents introduce their children to healthy eating (spinach vs. M&M's)
- Parents introduce their children to early education
- and in the case of this article's author, parents introduce their children to faith in Jesus Christ the Lord. You know- It does seem a perfectly proper thing to do.

It is *very obvious that people will ultimately develop into their own personhood in regards to faith in God. King David of Israel, was the father of both Solomon *and Absalom. However that fact does not prevent a parent's natural tendency to give their children the best information possible, in hopes that they will have a good life in this ("challenging..." let's say) world.

Why abdicate on this front? -ms
07:04 AM on 01/26/2010
Why do they have to believe in a religion?
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10:30 AM on 01/25/2010
Your son is already inquiring/wondering/questioning and that's a good start toward forming belief or faith or even rational thinking. Remember, it's not your job as parent to determine exactly who your child grows up to be. It's your job to provide a foundation so he can find his own way there. Then, it's your job to respect his choice and to recognize that he is not you, but a person in his own right. So far, it sounds like all is well.
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06:26 PM on 01/24/2010
Relax....and let your kids be.

No two people in the world ever see anything the same way. A parent can indoctrinate all they want and even if their child embraces their religious beliefs, their version is still likely to be a little different from their parents.

My parents were atheist/agnostic, but sent us to Sunday school so that we would be exposed to the Christian religion. I embraced it fervently one year, then rejected it all the next year in favor of evolution. After another ten years, my own experiences and instincts led me to believe that something does exist beyond what is known by science at this time. But I explore that through my own perceptions, not through the dictates of a particular religion.

Decades later, my older brother practices Buddhism, I have my own particular spiritual leanings, and my younger brother is agnostic. I have raised my own kids to be open to spiritual possibilities, or to be atheists if they wish. I figure whatever their answers are now, as they live Life their answers will change. They have expressed satisfaction over this arrangement versus their friends' situations, whose parents are determined to foist their own religion on their children.

Whatever you teach your children, they will make up their own minds, and that is as it should be. What a parent hopes for is that their child finds the path that provides them the peace and strength they need for this Life.
07:13 PM on 01/24/2010
Fantastic comment - let people find their beliefs own their own, and accept them for what they choose, even if it differs from your own.
02:13 PM on 01/24/2010
"I've read them Bible stories and then cringed when they've begun to laugh."

I can remember a similar scene... being tucked in my bed, lying next to my mom as she read to my sisters and I from the bible. And, while my little sister was engrossed by the stories, my older sister and I laughed at the holes. I never connected with religion and, upon starting Sunday school, I made it very clear to my parents that I was just going through the motions of the sacraments for their benefit.

Years later, I decided to read the bible again, on my own. By this point, I was already agnostic and I was reading the bible for all the wrong reasons. As I read the stories, which were no longer being billed to me as "the word of the Lord", I paused and thought how much more I would have enjoyed them -- and their meaning-- if they had been presented to me like Aesop's fables.

I'm presently writing stories that will help open the minds and hearts of children to spiritual concepts and sensibilities. Not being associated with any particular religion, I think it's the core concepts that our children need to learn. The packaging and the title we associate to it are just adult formalities.
10:45 AM on 01/24/2010
I think both religious and non-religious should have the strength to offer and help their children seek the other side of the argument.

So if one of my boys asks me if I believe in god I tell them the truth about why I don't believe, but at the end I tell them something like" "But you grandmother does believe so why don't you go talk to her too and learn about what she believes."

You should educate your children about your religion. Maybe it will take maybe it won't and both outcomes are victories, imo.

But I guess it depends on what is most important to you. Your children believing what you believe or your children learning how to apply that scientific, ACH, thinking to all areas of their life and allowing them to come to their own conclusions.
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06:22 PM on 01/23/2010
Can they be raised "religious"?? Depends on the religion. If it is Fundie Evangelical, I would think not, as they are terrified of science. But a more enlightened spiritual approach is perfectly fine as there would then be no problem and science would be seen as corroborating one's spiritual beliefs, not being against them.
06:10 PM on 01/25/2010
You have no idea what you are talking about your comment is anecdotal at best.
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08:45 AM on 01/23/2010
If accepting religion is something you really want for your child, the best thing to do is to leave him alone and let him find it for himself. My parents(both of whom were probably either agnostic or possibly Christian, but didn't identify with it as strongly as some people do) never bothered me with it so I considered myself sort of a Christian-by-default and we celebrate Christmas and Easter. Then I got to college and my freshman year RA was the biggest fundamentalist I have ever met. It was like her biggest goal to get me to "get saved". Well, the more she bugged me, the more I thought about everything she was trying to force onto me, and the more I rejected it. Mainly because I don't understand why it would have completely satisfied her if I had gotten "saved"(whatever that entails), gone through al the rituals, and still, in my heart, thought it was total baloney.

The point is: don't push him.
08:55 PM on 01/22/2010
Do we have gifted programs for spiritually gifted children? I have seen these children and it's a sad and lonely scientific world for them. What happens with a gift when it cannot be expressed and shared with others?
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07:10 PM on 01/22/2010
When I went on a school trip to Pompeii, I and the rest of the children(teenagers actually) were deeply impressed by the statutes of the god Priapus. That was religion, for you!
05:22 PM on 01/22/2010
Here's some science for you: religion can be artificially stimulated in your brain by electrical currents to your temporal lobes. In fact, people who are more religious tend to have larger, differently shaped temporal lobes than non-religious people. Let's just call religion what it is: a brain freeze.
05:31 PM on 01/22/2010
I was with you until you called it a "brain freeze." I can agree with you that it is a brain phenomenon, and the research is fascinating. Seems more like an activation of a part of the brain that is less important to non-religious persons. Calling it a brain freeze sounds like you think that part of the brain is not operating. If it is larger in size, it may have developed additional synapses and be more active, not frozen. The physical condition of the brain does not tell us whether these beliefs are delusional. You would have to examine the particular belief in question. Does my religious belief in the inherent worth and dignity of all persons, or my inspiration by the intricacy of nature, or my belief in social justice indicate a brain freeze?
05:55 PM on 01/22/2010
Sorry, the brain freeze comment was kind of snarky. What I am referring to is that religion, as well as other beliefs, are a brain phenomenon. Although these beliefs may be true for you, they also may in fact be delusional for others. We create our own reality with our thoughts. When we brainwash our children about religion, the reason "you have to start 'em young" is because the brainwashing is having the effect of altering their temporal lobes. As a parent, I think this is very important information.
04:10 PM on 01/22/2010
I think that the so-called "conflict" between science and religion is based on a series of gross misperceptions. There is NO conflict. The language of the Bible is spiritual and it was never intended as a "science" manual. A scientist seeking answers regarding the nuts and bolts and the whys of how things work is in no way in conflict with Biblical teachings and vice versa. My church counts a number of physicians and scientists among its clergypersons.
09:16 PM on 01/22/2010
Have you ever read the bible? It has not been read as 'spiritual' until the last several centuries as science has whittled away at its many factual errors. Even now there are large swathes of the US that insist the bible is the literal word and is factual, think creation museum [sic].

It is also irrelevant if there are doctors and scientists attend church or believe in this or that deity; their beliefs do not make science and religion compatible. People have the ability to hold contradictory beliefs. For instance, I know a Mormon currently enrolled in a graduate science program that has learned all of the science behind evolution and genetics but still dismisses it and continues to believe the fiction that is the Mormon religion.

Whether you want to accept it or not, accepting the science while believing in a theistic religion is intellectually bankrupt.
01:13 AM on 01/25/2010
In your last sentence you FINALLY narrowed your definition of WHICH religions you are talking about. You are only talking about THEISTIC religions. That would have been a good place to START, rather than making broad statements against religion generally. Classical Buddhism is nontheistic, so you weren't talking about them. Many UU's are nontheistic, so you weren't talking about us. Some people think Jesus was a great teacher, but was entirely human, not divine. They focus on his call to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the prisoner in jail. They focus on the line of Old Testament prophets who spoke truth to those in power, and that Jesus continued that line of prophets who spoke out against wrong practices. So you were only criticizing the religions that get the most press--the theistic ones. I bet some of those church-going scientists take into account where and when the events in the Bible purportedly took place, and take into account that nobody had microscopes or antibiotics or science textbooks two thousand years ago.
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01:49 PM on 01/25/2010
Your god is way too small. Theology is the queen of sciences. Its task is to find the meaning and purpose behind the other sciences. When the flat earth became the globe, theologians (or most of them) accepted that fact and interpreted what that meant in our understanding of ourselves as created beings. The discovery that we exist in an eleven dimensional creation is an exciting theological puzzle. The Bible is not one book and never pretended to be historically accurate. It is a record of mans' (and womans') search for meaning.
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03:29 PM on 01/22/2010
You need to let your children find their own path to god, ESPECIALLY if they're already on the scientific path...

FWIW, I've never understood the argument between religion and science, because they ask (and answer) different questions. Science asks HOW, while religion asks WHY.
04:02 PM on 01/22/2010
Amen!
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03:16 PM on 01/23/2010
The difference..

Go to any place in the world and the HOW answers of science stay consistent but the same can not be said of the WHY answers of religions. Some wonder how that came to be, others wonder why.
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01:19 PM on 01/22/2010
I have no children (by choice)... so of course I know all about the best way to raise them. ^_^

Children (and adults) who ask questions, trust in the provable, and reject ideas which make no sense to them are more interesting, smarter, and better equipped to handle whatever life throws their way. More fun to talk to.

Parents who try to mold their offspring into clones rarely get what they want, and almost never produce happy, well-balanced kids. Listen to your children. Answer their questions as honestly as you are able. Share your knowledge and beliefs with them, but don't be upset if they reject them. My parents are pretty cool, and even though I'm nothing like them in any way we can tell, I'm reasonably okay too.