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Occupy Wall Street: Interview With Micah White From Adbusters

Posted: 10/07/11 11:45 AM ET

Occupy Wall Street is an ongoing demonstration protesting against socio-economic inequality and corporate greed in America. The movement was started by the organization Adbusters and has now spread to over 80 cities across the country. This week on "What's Trending Live," I chatted with Micah White, senior editor at Adbusters, about mobilizing the community in Manhattan for the first protest back on Sept. 17, and what the main long-term goals are for the participants.

Micah explained that Adbusters has been advocating for a citizen movement against corporations for 20 years and that in July of this year they began considering doing a protest on Wall Street. He continued that Adbusters call to action was, "responded to so enthusiastically that... they organized themselves."

He insisted that despite the growth of the movement and criticism around lack of focus, the message remains the same as when the movement began. "The idea of Occupy Wall Street is to revive people's democracy," he said. "We are sick of the corporate political parties deciding the agenda of America."

What does he think of some calling this America's Arab spring? While he was quick to note the protest are peaceful, he did say what compares the two is the mobilization efforts. "The basic ideas was to combine the tactic of the Egyptian uprising which was that they went to a place of symbolic importance, and combine that with the Spanish intifada. In Spain, in May, people formed together in general assemblies... open meetings that they vote on everything together using consensus based decision making.

So what does he say to those criticizing the lack of focus or leadership to the movement?

"Anyone who tries to co-opt it will be laughed at and heckled. There's no one person who can speak of the occupation movement, it's a movement of people's democracy in the square."

As for the practical outcome of the demonstrations, Micah hopes that there will be, "economic justice." Specifically, he would like to see a "transaction tax" on international financial speculation, the reinstatement of the Glass-Stegall Act and the revocation of corporate personhood.

The demonstration and protests show no signs of slowing down, and if Micah White's passion is any indication, the Occupy Wall Street movement is far from over.

For more go to: OccupyTogether.org or OccupyWallSt.org.

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Occupy Wall Street is an ongoing demonstration protesting against socio-economic inequality and corporate greed in America. The movement was started by the organization Adbusters and has now spread to...
Occupy Wall Street is an ongoing demonstration protesting against socio-economic inequality and corporate greed in America. The movement was started by the organization Adbusters and has now spread to...
 
 
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08:21 PM on 10/11/2011
Great interview. The Occupy Movement is the best thing ever.
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rwthewayIseeit
Skin in the game makes all the difference.
07:28 PM on 10/07/2011
Glass Steagall! Glass Steagall! Glass Steagall! Anything more is unnecessary and punitive to small investors. If you put Glass Steagall back then the investment banks can't borrow from the FED at miraculously low interest rates. Or get rid of the FED. This transaction tax is silly and most people are very ignorant to the c consequences. Chicago and New York will lose an incredible amount of capital and jobs, this would pretty much guarantee Chicago going bankrupt. The spreads will go through the roof (costing every pension and mutual fund a huge amount of cash). The illiquid market will cause even more volatility. And finally if they are betting with their own money (which they would be if you put Glass Steagall in) then what gives you the right to tax it. This cost will destroy our capital markets and make them less attractive to foreign investment. If you have a pension fund or mutual fund you better give this a long hard look. The ignorance on this subject is staggering.
07:05 PM on 10/07/2011
He said "acampada" not "intifada.
04:09 PM on 10/07/2011
"As for the practical outcome of the demonstrations, Micah hopes that there will be, "economic justice." Specifically, he would like to see a "transaction tax" on international financial speculation, the reinstatement of the Glass-Stegall Act and the revocation of corporate personhood."

First, by putting "economic justice" in quotes he makes it clear that it has no clear definition. Asking for something that you cannot articulate is just a way of complaning. Like my 6 year who says life isn't "fair", which just means she didn't get her way. Same with "international financial speculation". Someone help me with a definition that makes sense.

The other two are good ideas but Occupy Wall Street doesn't seem to have the focus needed to address these two specifics. They would be easy to write and possibly even easy to pass if you just limit it to those two issues.
03:15 PM on 10/07/2011
In the two years following the movement's inception, the Tea Party played a major role in turning Teddy Kennedy's seat over to a Republican, making the sainted Chris Christie governor of New Jersey, and winning a gargantuan, historic Republican landslide in the 2010 elections. They are probably going to succeed in throwing out a president in next year's election.
12:46 PM on 10/07/2011
I agree with everything below. The original article can be found at Future Money Trends.com.

Wish I could take credit for it!!!
12:43 PM on 10/07/2011
Useful Idiots
Most of the time you hear the term “useful idiots” it is used in a totally pejorative sense. I think this is wrong. A “useful idiot” is actually not really an idiot, rather it is someone who is ignorant and therefore can be manipulated by those that are not ignorant to do as they desire. I mean who reading this was not a “useful idiot” at some point? I know I was. For most of my career on Wall Street that is exactly what I was. I worked in finance but had no idea how the system actually worked. As a result of my ignorance I was very susceptible to much of the propaganda that was blasted in my ear overtly and subliminally for much of my life. While I have always been cynical and never fell for the garbage either political party spewed, I was ignorant about how the world works and as such I could have been a danger to myself and others. Fortunately, I finally did dig further into the matrix, took the red pill and started writing about what I learned. Eventually I decided to leave Wall Street and pursue a different path.
12:43 PM on 10/07/2011
Ok, so is there a point to all this rambling? Of course. The point is that just because there are a lot of “useful idiots” at the Occupy Wall Street protests (just as there were at the Tea Party Protests) that doesn’t mean we should dismiss what is happening or belittle their frustrations. They are merely ships without anchors floating around aimlessly in a sea of ignorance. Rather that mock them right into the hands of bad guys that want to recreate feudalism like Michael Moore, George Soros and Warren Buffett we should educate them.
12:42 PM on 10/07/2011
Michael Moore and Other Carpetbaggers
Let me be clear about one thing. There are plenty of disconcerting things that have emerged in the Occupy Wall Street Protests. The main threat is the clear attempt of disingenuous elites to co-opt the movement and steer the “useful idiots” right into the concentration camps. You think George Soros is an idiot? You don’t think he knows exactly what he is doing when he voices his support? He is trying to co-opt it and own it. He didn’t start anything. He is a carpetbagger of the highest order.

One of the more disturbing things I have seen is this video of Michael Moore at the protests. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l97SuV6DThQ&feature=player_embedded After watching it I was so disturbed I sent the following out to my smaller email list:

It’s great to watch all these guys that never understood the real issues and clearly still don’t attempt to co-opt the message of the Occupy Wall Street Protests for their own agendas.
12:41 PM on 10/07/2011
For those of us that have been fighting this in the trenches for years, this is the greatest risk to the movement. That some radical self-serving interests take the message over. I don’t think it will succeed but that is what has happened in history and we must be vigilant. Watch this quick video of this dangerous man, Michael Moore. When asked about ending the Federal Reserve there is a really awkward moment and then he blurts out “END CAPITALISM.” End Capitalism Michael? Where is there capitalism. How about end crony capitalism?

My conclusion on this spectacle is the following. Either 1) He STILL hasn’t bothered to understand how things work and is just looking to be some sort of revolution rock star to stroke his own ego and childish solutions or 2) He is a crony capitalist himself and after having made millions via “capitalism” has decided like Warren Buffett, Soros and all the others he is content to shut down the opportunity to make money for others. End capitalism? Hmmmm, yep and go the planned neo-feudalism in which he is well positioned.

Whether it is 1 or 2 doesn’t matter. It is one of them and that makes him someone not to be trusted and with zero credibility in the movement and one that cannot offer real solutions. WATCH this video. This man is dangerous and must be exposed and discredited.
01:26 PM on 10/07/2011
agree!
12:39 PM on 10/07/2011
The key point I am trying to make here is whenever someone worth tens of millions of dollars pushes a agenda based on “end capitalism” turn and run the other way. Run as far and as fast as you can. Remember what feudalism really is. It was a system designed by the last guys to rape and pillage who then decided to shut down the random raping and pillaging once they had secured their castles. Michael Moore, George Soros, Warren Buffett and all the others have their castles and they don’t give a crap about you. Furthermore, did you see what Tiny Timmy Geithner just said? From Bloomberg: *GEITHNER: `YOU SHOULD BE DEMANDING BETTER RESULTS' FROM GOV'T. Don’t make me laugh. Here is the biggest insider crook on earth trying to tell us what we should want. Truly a disgusting character.

So…next time you see someone marching with an “end capitalism sign” stop that person and educate them. Explain to them why there is no capitalism, only crony capitalism and explain the financial system to them. That way we can drop the idiot part of the term and they can just become useful.
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12:28 PM on 10/07/2011
Finally good media!
11:30 AM on 10/07/2011
Funny how this article doesn't mention that George Soros (aka Ernst Blofeld) has pumped tons of cash into Adbusters through the Tides foundation. In addition, he has funds MoveOn.org, Labor Unions(SEIU), and Rebuild the Dream(remember Van Jones, admitted communist?) Several months again SEIU's Stephen Learner laid out plans for Hijacking Wall Street and collapsing the US economy, so as to replace it with a new system. The naive protesters on #occupywallstreet fail to realize they are being used by Soros to gain power and wealth. In other words, he is exactly what they are fighting against. However, they are so self-righteous that they either don't recognize this, or choose to ignore it. Is it the ends justifies the means attitude? In the End however, if Soros has his way, you are going to have to add a few more 9s to your 99% signs. You are so eager to criticize, question, and revolt against Corporations, but you don't even question the impetus and Soros' motives? That's not "enlightened", that's being a minion.
11:50 AM on 10/07/2011
Having been to the original site and seeing their outrageous and incomprehensible demands, I can only agree with everything you've said.
12:35 PM on 10/07/2011
so a democratic republic by the people for the people and of the people is outrageous?
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12:32 PM on 10/07/2011
So tell me what Soros has to gain from supporting this movement? His beliefs run thicker than $$$. Maybe Koch Brothers should take a lesson from him.
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07:32 PM on 10/07/2011
Soros is behind the University of Phoenix which makes a killing off of the student loan and financial aid programs. The guy is anything but some kind of angel. He pays to play like everyone does in Washington to get his perks.
11:28 AM on 10/07/2011
short of being on the front lines yourself, here's how you can hep OccupyWallStreet: http://littlebiggy.org/4660547