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What to Do When Your Daughter Is the Mean Girl

Posted: 01/16/12 02:26 PM ET

I knew this day would come. I was, of course, hoping it never would -- hoping that my daughter would never be mean to someone else's daughter -- but as they say, I wrote the book on girl bullying in elementary school, so I knew that there was a pretty good chance that despite all of my best efforts, one of these days, my girl was gonna act like the mean one. This morning, she told me about it.

Not in a confessional kind of way, mind you. Rather, in a completely casual, half-delighted voice, as she was eating her breakfast and I was at her side packing her lunch, she dropped the, "Guess-what-Mommy-Jessica-said-she-was-going-to-be-in-the-We-Don't Like-Madison-club-also" bomb.

Stomach drop. Head spin. Knees turn to mush.

"What did you say, honey?" I managed to ask.

I had heard her words perfectly clearly and the implications of them hit me straight away. My question was my way of gathering my thoughts -- stalling, if you will. And, of course, hoping that I had heard wrong.

"Jessica said she was going to be in the We-Don't Like-Madison-club also," she repeated, with no trace of guilt or sense of wrongdoing.

The moment I had dreaded had come true. My little girl was part of something very mean and I needed to let her know how unacceptable it was. I refuse to be one of those parents who lets bad behavior go, as long as my child isn't the one being picked on. I won't gloss over bullying as a "rite of passage" or rationalize it as "girls being girls." It's never okay to do nothing about bullying is the mantra I teach to young kids and I had to follow my own words, right?

Yet somehow, I had always pictured having this conversation in a more relaxed moment -- one in which we could pour a cup of cocoa, snuggle on the sofa, and chat for a good hour about the importance of kindness and the values inherent in real friendships. I didn't plan on it happening with just 10 minutes until the school bus arrived. Nor did I expect to have my whole body fail me as I processed her words. Silly me. Heart-to-hearts don't happen by appointment!

So, here's what I did.

First, I told my daughter in clear, plain, simple, no-nonsense terms that having a "We-Don't-Like-Anyone" club is bullying and that it was not okay. Then, I told her that she was to have no part of a club like that -- ever.

She looked at me like I was from a different planet. Then, she tried to explain:

"Oh, no Mom. It's not like that. Madison is the one that is really mean to all of us. That's why we started the club. She's actually the mean one."

A small bit of relief flowed over me. My daughter is not completely anti-social. She is not picking on an innocent victim. No, she is part of a vigilante group seeking revenge for collective injustices. I feel much better.

Actually, I did feel a little bit better knowing that the "delight" I had detected in my daughter's voice earlier was not happiness about hurting Madison, but rather her faulty conclusion that if Madison was being mean, it was okay to be part of a group that excluded her because of her behaviors. I quickly pointed this out to her and used the word "bullying" to explain myself.

"If all of the kids on the bus gang up against Madison and create a club around your dislike of her, that is bullying. It's not OK, no matter what Madison did, to be part of a club like that
" I explained.

I was practicing my New Year's resolution to keep my words brief and clear. No more lectures. No giving her the chance to tune me out. Then, my other parenting resolution kicked in: Listen more. I have been reminding myself to Listen First with my kids, before getting upset or jumping to conclusions about their behaviors. A little slow on the draw, I then asked her:

So, what is going on with Madison that is making everyone so upset?

"Nevermind, Mom. It was just a joke," she muttered.

Oh dear. I see I had lost my "listening" opportunity. My daughter was already shutting down and playing the "Just Kidding" card. Young girls, when confronted about mean behavior, often use "just kidding" as a first line of defense. It's a way of making it seem as if the other person is just overreacting. It's a passive aggressive way of deflecting accountability. "Just kidding" is my pet peeve.

"There's nothing funny or joking about having a mean-spirited club. It's not okay. It's bullying behavior and you may not be part of it."

As angry as I was to hear that my daughter was part of this situation, I was still kicking myself for not hearing her out first. Hours later, I am still re-playing the tape in my mind and questioning my words. On the other hand, I reassure myself with this: I listened late, but I communicated my values early.

I wish I could always stay perfectly calm and be the June Cleaver of my daughter's dreams, but I feel good about the fact that my daughter has no doubt in her mind about where I stand on the mean girl behavior. I will always be there to support her through tough times and I will never tolerate her creating tough times for someone else.

After a few moments of silence, I got my shot to be a listener after all. My daughter started giving me her laundry list of all the ways Madison had been unkind to the kids on the bus. I empathized. I nodded. I agreed that some of the things Madison had done were wrong. I know that later today, when we have more time for our cocoa-and-conversation, we can get back to specific skills for how to handle some of Madison's behavior. Before getting on the bus and facing the "We-Don't-Like-Madison-club" crowd, however, I knew there were two more things I had to tell my daughter -- thoughts I needed to let sit with her for the day.

The first was a question of empathy. I validated that some of Madison's behaviors sounded pretty mean and I told my daughter that it was okay for her to be upset about them. I went so far as to assure her that she did not have to be Madison's close friend. But I asked her to consider how it might feel to be Madison and to have all of the kids on the bus against her. I told her to imagine what it must be like to have a group of people looking at her, whispering around her, but not talking directly to her.

Second, conscious of the fact that thus far I had told her all of the things she could not do -- like being part of a group whose purpose it was to make someone else feel miserable -- I knew I needed to tell her what to do in the situation. I challenged her to be the (s)hero on the bus -- to be the kid who says to the other "club" members, "Guys, I think what we're doing here is wrong. I know Madison was really mean to us before, but now we're being really mean back and I don't think we should do this anymore."

After suggesting these words, I got the faraway planet look again. I acknowledged that doing the right thing was sometimes scary and really hard, but that continuing to do the wrong thing was even worse. I told her that she had the chance to be a bystander or to be a hero and that after school, I hoped she would tell me which one she chose.

What do you think? How did I do? I've been pondering it all day. Too sophisticated advice for a 3rd grader? Will she have the confidence to stand up for what is right? I hope I have fortified her with the skills to do the right thing and to disentangle herself from this "club." It's one thing to work with other people's children and to role play for possible scenarios they may encounter. It's a much more nerve-racking ballgame to have the day come when your own child is smack dab in the middle of mean girl behavior.

In other words, it's easy to know the right thing to say in theory, but much more challenging to say the right words in the heat of the moment. I hope I came close enough in the 10 minutes that I had. I'll keep you posted.


Signe is the author of Friendship & Other Weapons: Group Activities to Help Young Girls Aged 5-11 to Cope with Bullying. For follow up on this story or to read more of Signe's work on bullying among elementary school aged girls, please visit www.signewhitson.com, Like her on Facebook, or Follow her on Twitter @SigneWhitson.

 
 
 

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phoebequeen
I blame the dog
04:38 PM on 01/18/2012
Mean girls grow up to be mean women. I've run across a few over the years. It's a matter of empathy; either you have it or you don't. Have a friend whose daughter is a mean girl and she is scary. I even keep my distance from her.
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deerinmw
I don't mean to rock the boat, but ...
07:33 AM on 01/18/2012
Bullying isn't just physical. Its also emotional/pschological. Exclusion is bullying as well. Often parents/teachers don't see it. Truly. It happens outside the sigh/hearing of both teachers and parents. It happens at lunch time, on the playground, before/after school, on the bus. And it begins early. As a former lunch monitor, I could see the "beginnings" of the mean kids (girls and boys, but girls are easier to spot) by 2nd grade. Is more ingrained in 3rd grade; by 4th grade the "outsiders to be excluded and made fun of" are firmly established. Those are the kids who eat alone, are out on the playground alone and who are never invited to parties. Often the "crime" is simply being different, liking different things, being more mature (i.e. not getting involved in all the little dramas that go on because they're "stupid") or more immature (since everyone matures at different times and levels). Often a new child (transfer) is either the newest most popular person, or the new "weirdo." If the new student responds strongly to being make fun of, the others gang up and form (informal or formal) "hate so & so groups." School kids don't really like fellow students who are too different, think too differently or don't share their interests. Parents/teachers should ask the lunch and playground monitors and bus drivers.Often the child who gets in trouble is the one who's just pushing back on being picked on, excluded or teased.
04:58 AM on 01/18/2012
You told her not to be a part of a group that makes people miserable but your "validating" her complaints was an example of the two of you passing judgment on another person's behavior. Neither you nor your daughter are appointed to judge a third person's behavior especially in a closed alliance without the person present. You were a third party hearing hand me down information, not in a position to judge something you were not a part of. It's not wise for anyone to comment on a situation when they were not actually present . Your daughter should be taught that everyone has an ego and this ego doesn't always consider other people's needs, so when she feels irritated at another person it's because that person is making the same mistakes that we all might make on any given day. In the long run if this troublesome girl isn't dealing directly with her, it's not her issue. And if she witnesses another person in an unfair situation with this girl then she should be able to step in and ask if she can help them in any way. This stops most arguments and keeps your daughter on the level of a peer to both people involved. Instead of "let's judge behavior" in should be, "what can I do to gain mutual cooperation between all my peers." Asking more open ended questions teaches problem solving skills.
12:10 AM on 01/18/2012
Good shot; just don't get frenzied about it. Most likely it will have a decent ending.
12:09 AM on 01/18/2012
Probably find out later, her kid was the Queen of the Bullys.
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isis47470
10:57 PM on 01/17/2012
Sounds like you did a decent job to me. Might wanna have coffee with Madison's mom though.
09:46 PM on 01/17/2012
Children become mad when their parents become authors, children and adolescent therapists. Spank them I guess.
12:10 AM on 01/18/2012
What?
08:42 PM on 01/17/2012
If this mother can't make a stand about her daughter's behavior, how is the child going to know whether to vacillate or not?
TomMartin
Freedom and equality.
08:40 PM on 01/17/2012
The way to deal with a bully like Madison is not to be mean to her in return, but to criticize her, explain how she was wrong to bully.
12:11 AM on 01/18/2012
Not criticize, just explain.
TomMartin
Freedom and equality.
06:55 AM on 01/20/2012
If you explain without being critical, then it would seem to her as not important.
08:18 PM on 01/17/2012
There are 2 sides to every story. This mom is only hearing her daughter's side.
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seattleite4
Don 't believe everything you think.
10:27 PM on 01/17/2012
Yep, and as a parent she was very quick to accept that her daughter was not the mean one. I teach 5 year olds and no parent ever wants to accepts that their child is being the mean one. There is always a reason, excuse, explanation. Every child is the mean on at some point. They have to try it to find out that it doesn't fit. Work hard so that it doesn't "fit" your child. Teach them to be kind.
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Seiena Cyrus
06:37 AM on 01/18/2012
I think you might be a little jaded. -Every- child? That's a pretty hefty exageration. Not every child has been the mean one as some point. I know this because I've got a pretty good memory and I recall being hunted by the school gang of boys like an antelope hunted by Lions across the Savannah. I sadly was not just bullied by kids either, but teachers. Teachers who -knew- there was a kid and his friends that were excessively bullying me. I was out in -plain- sight where -everyone- could see me...yet got blamed for writing my name on the wall, because really who would write my name on the wall and get me in trouble? I was obviously just stupid enough to write my own name down... Never mind that kid that's been suspended 9 times for beating me, chasing me from the bus, and wreaking havoc on my mental capacities?

I suspect they were all just jealous though. I came equipped with a high functioning imagination and excessive amounts of energy and who knows what I'd be right now if I had my self-esteem now. And I say that because from elementary through to when I became excessively introverted, I enjoyed weaving stories. We aren't talking hey jill ate a frog kinda stories we're talking more Dungeons and Dragons style stories...was more fun then being mean would have ever been.
08:16 PM on 01/17/2012
Girls can be plain evil & it starts in pre-school. Moms you better catch it early because bullying can it ruin young lives & cause pain, anxiety & even suicide. Please be aware & stop it before it grows out of control.
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seattleite4
Don 't believe everything you think.
10:28 PM on 01/17/2012
Oh, yes I just posted that too. :o)
10:28 PM on 01/17/2012
This is so true.When I was growing up I knew a girl like that then she fell in a deep deppresion and took her own life at the age of 15 I was so devastated
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Carla Peele
06:14 PM on 01/17/2012
I think you did very well! It is a hard situation, and I think it's easier for mothers with sons than mothers of daughters in that sort of situation, because girls as a general rule bully in a different way, which is actually longer lasting at times, more damaging...
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Signe Whitson
07:54 PM on 01/17/2012
Thanks. Things seem to have worked out well for the present. My daughter knows where I stand on her involvement in "We-don't-like" clubs and...for what it's worth...her story today was about how all of the kids--Madison included--were sitting together on the bus making up a song. Glad to see the kneejerk impulse to exclude was over-rided over by a decision to come together.
09:04 PM on 01/17/2012
After reading this I found that I need to make shorter speeches to my 15 year old son. You hit the nail on the head with that, he tunes me out after 3 minutes. Thank you for bringing something so simple to my attention and will start practicing it. We are never to old to learn. :)
TomMartin
Freedom and equality.
08:42 PM on 01/17/2012
I don't think girls bully in a more damaging way. I have been bullied by boys and almost never by a girl. And I am terribly damaged by all the daily bullying the boys committed against me.
12:16 AM on 01/18/2012
Yes, guys are tough, but usually they forget what they did. Girls tend to remember. Try to remember the source, Tom, and hold yourself higher, and refuse to give in. It will work. You're still here, so you have strength. Keep it going!
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care4ub0y
04:37 PM on 01/17/2012
It sounds to me like you did the best you could under the circumstances!
06:59 PM on 01/17/2012
Actually the mother was wrong and should let the girl be in that club. How is that bullying, intelligent answer is that it isn't bullying to be in a club that doesn't like a particular person. Wimpy parents.
12:17 AM on 01/18/2012
Wrong.
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lynniebaker
I've said my peace.......
02:15 AM on 01/18/2012
Awe, the reason we have more bulling in schools. The parents! Or are you a parent? Would you like it if your child was on the receiving end of this club. We as the adults should never allow children to join a club around hatred. We should encourage them to join a club on "How to deal with bullying" not becoming bullies themselves..
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Signe Whitson
07:55 PM on 01/17/2012
Thanks!
03:50 PM on 01/17/2012
What happened to the old fashioned spanking or taking away their cell phone, tv, etc... There are such things as having them clean the toilet for a month, wash dishes, etc.... And being treated like a bully for one day might not be a bad idea. Thank God I had good girls !!!
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Carla Peele
06:11 PM on 01/17/2012
It doesn't sound like her little girl IS "bad". She isn't right in the "an eye for an eye" thinking, either, but you can't place the blame upon her solely. I'm not saying "the other kid had it coming", but that you have to look at it from BOTH children's perspectives, and actually figure out what is going on before you jump to any conclusions and decide how to handle things.

For example, my son pinned one boy's arms behind his back at recess. I asked him, "What did this boy do?" "Yelled in my face that I was a looser during football." I told him that I understood him being angry, because that was not nice, but that we do not react that way. Physical reactions are NOT okay. "When you're mad, take a breath, count to ten, okay, bud?"
07:01 PM on 01/17/2012
Then on count eleven, smack the kid upside the head. Problem solved and someone's kid just got the whupping they deserved. :)
09:00 PM on 01/17/2012
Spanking? Really? Violence instead of using words, how lovely! I think at least talking to the kid first would help a great deal more.
12:12 AM on 01/18/2012
lol at calling spanking "violence".
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pslcitizen
Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.
02:38 PM on 01/17/2012
Let her spend the day with a bully.. My oldest son used to pull rank on my youngest until I showed him it's not that much fun to be pushed around.