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Simon Johnson

Simon Johnson

Posted: June 23, 2010 07:23 AM

'Chuck Prince' Is Going To Run This Bank (Into The Ground)

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The following is also posted on Johnson's blog, BaselineScenario.com.

"Breaking up big banks would actually increase system risk" is a refrain heard from top administration officials, ever more vocal after they helped kill the Brown-Kaufman amendment (that would have limited the size and leverage of our largest banks) on the floor of the Senate.


But while Mr. Geithner and his colleagues are still taking their victory laps and congratulating themselves on retaining "business as usual" after the biggest crash-and-bailout in world financial history, educated opinion starts to feel increasingly uncomfortable.


People who worry seriously about system risk break the problem down into several distinct buckets, including the nature of shocks and the way these are propagated across the system.  In this typology, the "Chuck Prince problem" is in a class of its own.


It might be fairer to label this issue as the Royal Bank of Scotland problem - because RBS had a balance sheet that reached roughly 1.5 times the size of the British economy before it failed.  Or perhaps we should call it the Irish problem - three banks with combined assets around 200 percent of the Irish economy, and then they failed.  Or even the Iceland problem - three banks that were 11-13 times the size of the Icelandic economy before they went belly up.


But all of those overseas examples still seem rather esoteric to American audiences - at least, that's my experience after presenting 13 Bankers: The Wall Street Takeover and The Next Financial Meltdown over 50 times to audiences around the US over the past few months.  Recent European experience points to our likely future - huge banks that herd into bad mistakes and, when bailout time comes, further imperil states that have already weak fiscal positions.  But most Americans are not quite willing to say we are there yet.


So we will stick with the Chuck Prince label.  The point is that while many banks are run by good risk managers for a while, they all eventually end up in the hands of someone who does not really know what is going on.


Banks are bureaucratic power structures, after all, albeit ones that try to make money after some fashion.  The people who rise to the top are not always the most risk averse - more likely they get on with the boss or reflect someone's glory in an appropriate manner or are just not that threatening to the people who matter.


Under our existing rules, good managers can build up banks and - with the continuing lack of effective cap on the size of big banks - these institutions can become huge relative to the economy.  And then Chuck Prince gets the job.


The interesting thing about Mr. Prince, of course, is that he does not claim to have known what was going on.  In fact, in his testimony to the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission he rather emphasized that he was not fully informed or otherwise aware of the risks being taken by Citigroup – which he headed.


This “Chuck Prince” problem is exactly what would have been addressed by Senators Ted Kaufman and Sherrod Brown.  And it is exactly what this administration ducked.  Find me a systemic risk expert – and I’ve been talking to the very best – who thinks what the administration did was a good idea.


The next time a megabank fails, do not send to know for whom the bell tolls.  It tolls for Tim Geithner and Larry Summers (as well as probably 25 million or so people around the world who will lose their jobs in the ensuing recession).  Failing to break up the biggest banks was a policy mistake for the ages.  Senators Brown and Kaufman handed this opportunity to Treasury on a platter - but they knocked it over, trampled it into the ground, and now brag about their feat to the press.


This was pure hubris on the part of the administration, with perhaps some NIH ("not invented here") thrown in - if they didn't invent an idea, they can't believe it's worth pursuing.


The next time a big bank crashes and burns – causing vast economic damage – you can blame Chuck Prince (or his latest incarnation) if you wish.  Or you can blame the people who hired the Chuck Prince-equivalent.  But I would respectfully submit that most of the blame lies with the folk who thought it was OK to continue allowing the existence of megabanks that can be mismanaged into utter disaster.  


The “Chuck Prince” problem is a completely unnecessary source of system risk that could have been removed by this administration.

 
 
 
The following is also posted on Johnson's blog, BaselineScenario.com. "Breaking up big banks would actually increase system risk" is a refrain heard from top administration officials, ever more vocal ...
The following is also posted on Johnson's blog, BaselineScenario.com. "Breaking up big banks would actually increase system risk" is a refrain heard from top administration officials, ever more vocal ...
 
 
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ZenFUel
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02:49 AM on 06/27/2010
I thought it was as simple as :

(2008) Banks are 'too big' to fail .....we need to give them money so the whole economy survives

(2010) Solution? make sure banks aren't 'too big', so when the fail we won't need to give them money to survive.

This simple message should be beaten into every person running for office this year that votes for this lame financial reform.....

*grrr.....getting hard to mask the rage*
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ZenFUel
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02:43 AM on 06/27/2010
I thought it was as simple as :

(2008) Banks are 'too big' to fail .....we need to give them money so the whole economy survives

(2010) Solution? make sure banks aren't 'too big', so when the fail we won't need to give them money to survive.

This simple message should be beaten into every person running for office this year that votes for this lame financial reform.....

*grrr.....getting hard to mask his anger*
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fromdnorth
OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
09:10 AM on 06/25/2010
Its Official: The US is a Feudal State...
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Lorianne
ama vitam
11:36 AM on 06/24/2010
Why is Barney Frank fighting against allowing FOIA requests of Freddie and Fannie?
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Intolerantcentrist
No thanks…I brought my own air.
12:31 AM on 06/24/2010
The status quo is simply unacceptable. The systemic leverage of “Too Big To Fail” and the moral hazard of government bailouts is not a sustainable business model or a feature of a stable economic policy. Why can’t the frame a solution to large financial risking in different terms. Put the issue to the banks as: the continuation of “Too Big To Fail” equals no future government bailouts, or reinstate and enforce a strict Glass-Steagall like separation of commercial and investment banking firms and let the investment firms risk all the wish while maintaining well capitalized commercial banks.
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inthedesert
Those who never question will fall for anything.
07:24 PM on 06/23/2010
Greed and profits CORRUPT even the best of men. As long as America is firmly in the claws of the greedy, we are DOOMED.
04:43 PM on 06/23/2010
Why in the hell would they reign in risk? What ever kind of mess they create, it will ultimately not be their responsibility. Sure they'll get hauled up in front of a sub-commitee and will apologize and they may even resign. But they will walk away with government backed assurances and golden parachutes like never seen before. The saying has been used a lot. Socialized risk with private profits. This is not a sustainable system. It is simply a government sanctioned heist.

We all need to dig down and demand a lot more from our elected officials. The banking industry was given an amazing opportunity to operate with less government oversight than they had since the great depression. They were all promises of self policing and operating creatively in the new economy. They crapped in their own sleeping bag and the citizens of the US got to clean it up. Hell of a deal. www.dailyreusables.com
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
06:32 PM on 06/25/2010
A bit like the cigarette CEOs who lied to Congress....
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jalaroc
02:15 PM on 06/23/2010
We shouldn't rely on megabanks to rein in risks because it's never worked in the past and wall street sees no problems with the systems. Apparently, greed, unethical behavior, and an unsustainable lending strategy were just a one time fluke that will never happen again. BTW....I was reading that the fed is keeping rates low to "aid in the weak recovery." Personally, I think there should be strings attached to the low rates because it sure doesn't seem that all this loan activity is resulting in much hiring. The fed should grant low interest loans only if they're for economically stimulating activities IN THE U.S such as expansion, hiring, etc. If the intent of the loan is for "risk management" AKA as doing vegas on wall street or liquidity (which would warrant a much closer look at the request), a much higher loan rate should be assigned to the loan.
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Lorianne
ama vitam
03:28 PM on 06/23/2010
They would reign in risk toute suite if our Congress would:
STOP BAILING THEM OUT.
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07:53 PM on 06/23/2010
fanned!
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getsit
good morning, I'm here
03:28 PM on 06/23/2010
We have the examples of the savings and loans and tech bubble that burst. All because of deregulation from the great Republican god Reagan onward. We never learn. As long as the top is making their obscene profits the status quo will go on, and on, and on.

The only accountability would be to hold CEOs accountable for their behavior and their failures. Like the rest of us-who would lose our jobs if we failed or behaved unethically. Their income should be tied to ethical behavior and success. This is true gambling-losing your shirt if you fail.

CEOs get to the top because they DO take risks, are willing to make the "hard" decisions like layoffs to protect profits, raising insurance rates to increase profits, not following regulations to protect profits (oil drilling, mining and the like), destroying the environment to preserve profits, poisoning our people to increase profits and on and on.
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Lorianne
ama vitam
12:32 AM on 06/24/2010
The can be held accountable for all that by:
NOT BAILING THEM OUT ... ever.
Not subsidizing them ... ever.
Not making regulations that favor one business over another ... ever.

Take them to court if they destroy the environment or hurt others.

What's more, their shareholders will be the watchdogs because the shareholders will not be bailed out, subsidezed, favored etc ... and they don't want their company to be sued to extinction either.

Works smart, not hard.
01:46 PM on 06/23/2010
Why would the banks rein in themselves?
If we expected the banks to do that, then why do we have regulators?

It is completely ridiculous to think the banks will regulate themselves.
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07:54 PM on 06/23/2010
indeed, kind of like giving the Fed system veto power over the new consumer protection agency; regulating themselves-because that has worked so well up til now
kdp59
small business owner
01:23 PM on 06/23/2010
too big to fail..........is too big to regulate.....period!
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Jorge Montijo
01:06 PM on 06/23/2010
Move your money!
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getsit
good morning, I'm here
03:31 PM on 06/23/2010
The big banks don't think they need us little guys. If we really all moved our money to ethical small bank corporations and credit unions it really would make an impact.
12:55 PM on 06/23/2010
They should not worry about to big to fail banks any more, just start a keep your cash on hand campaign and a pay in cash campaign, the loss of business should shrink them down and some will fail by being un able to support the operations without depositors and card use fees.
12:52 PM on 06/23/2010
The adminstration really needs to distance itself more from Wall St. Tim Giethner is not trustworthy to work in the interest of the people. People should keep their money in local banks/credit unions.
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Lorianne
ama vitam
12:34 PM on 06/23/2010
They would reign in risk toute suite if our Congress would:
STOP BAILING THEM OUT.
01:42 PM on 06/23/2010
Please consider the consequences on our economy of letting our financial system fail before making uneducated remarks like this. Once you understand that then we can talk.
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Lorianne
ama vitam
03:28 PM on 06/23/2010
Reward risky behaviour, get more risky behavior.

you've been snookered.
01:48 PM on 06/23/2010
Congress has decided to leave the "too big to fail" banks alone -
that means, next time one fails, they will have to be bailed out.

Congress has basically accepted the need for future bail-outs
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Lorianne
ama vitam
12:28 AM on 06/24/2010
Republicans are AGAINST too-big-to-fail.
Or rather, I should say, would-be Republican voters are against it ... so they are holding their elected officials feet to the fire on this one.

The minority of Repuclicans who voted for TARP are in political trouble with their constituents. Every vote after that they listened a bit more carefully to their constituents. Republicans in Congress may be slow-witted, but they do eventually get it that they'll be voted out if they pull any more of the TARP c r a p again.

Democrats ... they still don't get it.
olddognewtrick
Half full or half empty...It's the same
12:06 PM on 06/23/2010
Feds need to stick with Don't Shake Don't Bake policy...