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How I Came to Understand Sin

Posted: 03/01/11 08:45 AM ET

When Pope John XXIII talked about "the signs of the times" -- poverty, nuclearism, sexism -- I began to read these new signs with a new conscience and with a new sense of religious life in mind. Most of all, I began to read the scriptures through another lens. Who was this Jesus who "consorted with sinners" and cured on the Sabbath? Most of all, who was I who purported to be following him while police dogs snarled at black children and I made sure not to be late for prayer or leave my monastery after dark? What was "the prophetic dimension" of the Church supposed to be about if not the concerns of the prophets -- the widows, the orphans, the foreigners and the broken, vulnerable of every society?

We prayed the psalms five times a day for years, but I had failed to hear them. What I heard in those early years of religious life was the need to pray. I forgot to hear what I was praying. Then, one day I realized just how secular the psalmist was in comparison to the religious standards in which I had been raised: "You, O God, do see trouble and grief. ... You are the helper of the weak," the psalmist argues. No talk of fuzzy, warm religion here. This was life raw and hard. This was what God called to account (Psalm 10:14). This was sin.

When the Latin American bishops talked about a "fundamental option for the poor," I began to see the poor in our inner-city neighborhood for the first time. When Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King Jr. finally stood up in Birmingham, Ala., I stood up, too. I was ready now. Like the blind man of Mark's gospel, I could finally see. The old question had been answered. The sin to be repented, amended, eradicated was the great systemic sin against God's little ones. For that kind of sin, in my silence, I had become deeply guilty.

I had new questions then but they were far more energizing than the ones before them. I began to look more closely at what "living a good life" could possibly mean in a world that was so full of suffering, so full of greed.

I began to realize that "a good life" had something do with making life good for other people. Slowly, slowly I began to arrive at the oldest Catholic truth of them all: all of life is good and that sanctity does not consist in denying that. Sanctity consists in making life good for everyone whose life we touch.

 
 
 
 
 
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Dave24
Without God, life is everything.
02:52 AM on 03/03/2011
Give a listen to the great George Carlin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o
New Yorker
Roman Catholic, Anti-DEATH, Combat Vet, Sinner
12:00 PM on 03/03/2011
I always enjoy that very typical Carlin 'rant' against religion. Of course poor George now knows how mistaken he was in life, so we should pray for his poor soul, somehow I suspect he may be in dire need of a few rosarys. Make that a LOT of them, and some Fasting and a little Supplication, sure couldn't hurt. Pray for Poor George Carlin so he avoids hell, cause it won't be getting any laughs if he lands there.
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Dave24
Without God, life is everything.
05:42 PM on 03/03/2011
And you know that he's mistaken? How do you know, exactly?

Hell is fiction, sin is fiction, heaven is fiction, religion is fiction. The only evidence supporting those ideas are the ideas themselves, which isn't evidence.

You obviously didn't watch the latter half of the video, where he talks about the pointlessness of prayer. Because if God has a plan for each of us --- an argument often spouted by the religious --- then prayer is irrelevant.

Religion creates sickness and then offers the cure.
How convenient.
02:09 AM on 03/03/2011
It is taught by the Masters of Wisdom that the surest and fastest path to God is service to others. This article is a fine story about coming to that realization.

"My friends, My brothers, I am with you at last. For long have I waited to bring to you the Light of the future. My Brothers and I look to this coming time as an opportunity for Service. We, too, My friends, grow by the manifestation of this divine attribute. Naught which stems from God but serves, My brothers. Learn and believe that this is so. Through service to man, man will come to God. It was ever so. Make a life of Service your vow for the future time and know the bliss of the Love of God."
- Messages from Maitreya the Christ
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Allen Reed Jensen
10:46 AM on 03/02/2011
She writes about sins of omission (not helping the poor, not fighting for equal rights) but where was her preaching against the sins of commission? Sins against others and ourselves weigh more heavily on individuals and society in general. From a religious view adultery, fornication, rape, pornography, divorce, abortion, theft, cheating, dishonesty, blasphemy, and violence damn more souls than the lack of activism for social justice. Many on the religious right make the same mistake of focusing on spiritually irrelevant activities (like their revivals and literature on so called "cults") instead crying repentance. Christ may have told the adulterous woman that He would not condemn her but that story ends with Him telling the woman "Go and sin no more."
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mrsL
marriage & motherhood with mirth and grace
08:38 AM on 03/03/2011
Well said!
de-meme-ing
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08:34 PM on 03/03/2011
What was her sin, do you know? What evidence is there that she sinned, committed adultery in the literal sense of the word? None. There are no credible witness, there is not even the man with whom she is alleged to have committed adultery. Adultery is a metaphor for "knowledge". Maybe she was reading the Torah, something othodox women were not allowed at the time, as I understand. Maybe she was thinking for herself? Is that a sin? At that time, and for many, thousands of years to come.

If Jesus came to set mankind free of irrational law, which he did as stated in Matthew, and to atone for sin, would that include women, and the sins committed against women by men?

If Lord means master, which it does, and sin means, missed the mark, which it does, perhaps she missed the mark when she called him Master?

Jesus came to elevate mankind to their righful inheritance as valued, and worthy. He came to do that for all, not just men. If he is master, then she is slave and that goes against the teachings in the New Testament. He was raising her in status, hence all women, not demoting them. They had already been demoted, hence no need to demote them further but to raise them.
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ManuOB1
A voice crying in the wilderness
07:05 AM on 03/02/2011
Believers and thinkers like Sr. Joan may not "save" the Catholic church, but they are creating the new model of church even as the old one crumbles around us. Thank you!
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researcher
01:50 AM on 03/02/2011
"I have come to understand sin to be the compulsive behaviors that arise out of the fears produced by our false perception of separation with God and with one another."

well stated. now without that perception of being separate from this infinite oneness there is no expression of this infinite oneness. ie no creation ie no us ie no you or me to interact.

ie ignorance/unawareness is mandatory for expression to occur. think about it. if infinite created us perfect like its infinite self there is no us just isness.

the necessity of creation is imperfections, which is simply unawareness.

likewise the necessity of unique souls is variety and all variety is some level of difference (ie less than) from infinite awareness.

for christians they would do well to think of adam and eve as created innocent and not sinful. ie original innocence not original sin. but the human ego takes to sin and guilt like a duck takes to water. ie sin and guilt are self confirmatory. ie look at me I am separate from God.

or as frank sang I gotta be me.

eating from the tree of knowledge is the journey of the soul defined. rather nicely I might add except it right over the christians head.

plus guilt sells like hot cakes when the collection plate is passed. :-)
09:46 PM on 03/01/2011
It's interesting that when most people read the Scriptures they see it as a text predicting the future. This tendency to view it this way gives us a way to not pay attention to the present and think only about what is to come. This view releases us, in our minds, from a responsibility to see the world around us and the suffering that takes place in it.

But to read the Scriptures as a living voice offering insight into the world in which we live provides us with an opportunity to minister to those around us...thus affect change and exposing us to things that will change us in return. Yes, it's that strange process called sanctification.
05:34 PM on 03/01/2011
Chittiser's approach to religion is all about authoritarianism, which is what most religion is about. Indeed, the concept of sin is merely an elaboration of the guilt a child feels for displeasing his parent. It's no coincidence that Catholicism and some other religions are constructed on the patriarchal model, with the pope a father-figure demi-god under the ultimate father figure Himself. All this is rather sad and horribly outdated in today's world, which is sliding backward into Medieval religious disputes disguised as modern geopolitical struggles. It's time for people to give up the fantasies of religion and take responsibility for themselves as rational human beings.
04:11 PM on 03/01/2011
One pair of hands working for others is better than a thousand pairs of hands clasped in prayer. Seems like common sense.

My elderly neighbor says she appreciates me taking her to the doctor and to the grocery store and bringing over meals so much more than those people from her church who say they pray for her. (Maybe they prayed that some atheist would giver her a ride and a pot of soup?)
05:37 PM on 03/01/2011
Very true, but prayer and other religious rituals are all about the appeal of magic and superstition. It's very easy for people to become addicted to that way of thinking and very difficult to get them to realize that they are dealing in mere fantasies.
09:47 PM on 03/01/2011
Prayer that is wishing think and making requests is not prayer. Prayer is an opportunity to be changed so that we may become the people God is creating us to be.
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littlefairy
One little fairy against the world
03:58 PM on 03/01/2011
To paraphrase Anthony de Mello, "Your priests, mullahs, are not going to like me saying this, but God is going to be much happier with you being transformed iand loving than if you say, "Lord, Lord.""
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researcher
06:09 PM on 03/01/2011
oh a de mello fan. what an interesting priest. his videos are a treasure.

when he was censored by the church the local church gave me his videos and books. what a treasure.

a priest awaking is a sight to see.
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phnxrth
03:42 PM on 03/01/2011
Since it's becoming a habit I guess I'll go out on a limb again. Reading and carefully studying all the writings of Richard W. Wetherill and then revisiting scripture really put a different light on the subject for me. It showed me how much the average person misses when reading scripture. It showed me how far removed the average person (including myself) is from honest appreciation of the meanings. It showed my why Wetherill said "faith is not a preliminary requirement to acceptance, but an inescapable result of understanding."

I'll take it a step further. I haven't encountered anyone who hasn't taken this approach to the subject matter who seems to be in much of a position to say anything truly meaningful on the subject.

We've all got a responsibility to call attention to correct info the best way we can. I certainly hope people don't think they need everyone showing up in the religious section repeating the same old lines back to one another.
12:23 PM on 03/01/2011
Reading passages without listening to way they say and incorporating them into your life is one of the most common mistakes - and the one with the gravest consequences - that are made within the religious community. Do as I do, not say what I did, particularly in the west with the teachings of Jesus, would create an entirely different world.

"No understanding of the spiritual crisis in the world is possible without clear consideration of causes.
According to Maitreya, complacency is the root of all evil in the world. What can be summed up as the ‘I’m all right Jack’ mentality leads both individuals and institutions to become estranged from the realities of life, and therefore to ineffective solutions. Complacency is a form of corruption which is not ‘outside’ but inside. The mind itself is potentially constructive or destructive."
- World Teacher Maitreya through an associate as reported by Share International
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ninetailedfox
banning people.....so childish
12:31 PM on 03/01/2011
If a man were to follow the teachings of the old testament, he would be a criminal, if a man were to follow the teachings of the new testament, he would be insane. RG Ingersoll.
11:51 AM on 03/01/2011
I have come to understand sin to be the compulsive behaviors that arise out of the fears produced by our false perception of separation with God and with one another. When we work toward healing this perceived separation, by being open to the truth that Jesus came to know and shared with his disciples - the truth that We are ONE with God, then our "sinful" behavior becomes no longer necessary. It simply evaporates along with the fears that are being healed and released. I present a comprehensive, Christ-centered approach to naming and finding healing for these fears and their resulting sins through my book, Authentic Freedom - Claiming a Life of Contentment and Joy. (being released this April through St. Johann Press)

Lauri Lumby
Authentic Freedom Ministries
http://yourspiritualtruth.com
11:02 AM on 03/01/2011
So tell me this? Can atheists live perfectly good lives as well? Or is this only a domain of the religious?
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ninetailedfox
banning people.....so childish
12:32 PM on 03/01/2011
I believe they can, but im not a christian, Im a Pagan. Pagans have no problems with gays and women, christians on the other hand, do. I believe that one is judged by actions, not by belief.
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Shanard
01:03 PM on 03/01/2011
Why would they be unable to do so?
01:15 PM on 03/01/2011
Well if you let some religious people tell it, goodness only has a religious source.
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AdamWest1313
Hardcore Agnostic
03:56 PM on 03/01/2011
Because according to traditional interpretations of the bible, one believe that Jesus was the son of god and that person's personal savior in order to get into heavan.
10:43 AM on 03/01/2011
Nah...that would be believing we are all born sinners.