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Few Girls Receive All 3 Doses Of HPV Vaccine, Study Finds

Few Girls Receive All 3 Doses Of HPV Vaccine, Study Finds

Commented Dec 9, 2013 at 21:18:07 in Healthy Living

“Really, you make your health care decisions based on complete misinformation?

Please, for example, show us any MMR vaccine that has ever contained the thimerosal to inactivated the live viruses in that vaccine and thus render it ineffective.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but fundamental ignorance is worse.”
Whooping Cough Outbreak May Have Been Fueled By Kids Who Weren't Vaccinated (STUDY)

Whooping Cough Outbreak May Have Been Fueled By Kids Who Weren't Vaccinated (STUDY)

Commented Sep 30, 2013 at 21:55:18 in Parents

“"If the vaccines were so perfect . . . "

No one has ever claimed that vaccines were perfect, much less "so perfect." Why do you make such a ridiculous statement?

You might want to have your child evaluated. Children like your son who apparently regressed into autism in apparent temporal proximity to vaccination (1/3 of cases, while 2/3 of cases are not associated with vaccination) have been repeatedly found by independent investigators on several continents to have had pre-existing mutations that entirely explained their problems. That's why the US "vaccine court" has recently denied compensation in several such cases.”

Orion Raabe on Oct 1, 2013 at 16:37:54

“If its 1/3 that's still over 224,000 children just in the US who have had a vaccine trigger autism, even if some have a genetic relationship would they have had autism if they didn't get the vaccine?? Probably not, but who can say, this number in my opinion isn't acceptable or worth the risk, especially when genetic testing is extremely expensive, not to mention this number will rise with the increase of immunizations and not all of these were triggered genetically.”

Orion Raabe on Oct 1, 2013 at 16:28:30

“If 1/3 of autism cases are or can be associated with a vaccine as the cause then that is way to high of a percentage, because the CDC said in 2012 an average of 1 in 110 children in the US show signs of autism, yes an average but still if that is the case then 1 out of every 3 of the 110 were caused by a vaccination or 37 of the 110. Those numbers should scare any parent I'm not a parent and those numbers are terrifying. So of the 74,181,467 kids in the US, 674,376 have autism of which 224,792 in the US were caused by a vaccine, every one of those parents should be outraged let alone compensated IMO.”

thinkingwomanmillstone on Oct 1, 2013 at 06:56:05

“My son is 24, he's been evaluated out the wazoo. I am not interested in compensation. He has no known genetic mutations. You of course, discount that whole idea that there are adverse reactions to vaccines. As I said I am not anti-vaccine...I am anti forcing parents to follow a protocol that puts children at risk for convenience. I am anti the attitude that vaccines are not without risk. I am anti the attitude, such as yours, that the children who are harmed are just not important.”
Autism, Air Pollution Link Confirmed By First National Study

Autism, Air Pollution Link Confirmed By First National Study

Commented Jun 19, 2013 at 20:39:15 in Parents

“If you study neurobiology and genetics you'll be able to disabuse yourself of the notion that "the millions spent on hunting genes are perhaps only finding the fingerprints of the pollutants" such as "the vaccine preservative thimerosal.

The recent prevalence of ASD among children age 3-5 in the California is higher than at any time before exposure to thimerosal-containing vaccines was dramatically curtailed; in particular, of course, kids in California cannot receive thimerosal-containing vaccines (i.e., some influenza vaccines) before the age of three, and administration of thimerosal-containing vaccines to pregnant women in banned, so these kids haven't seen anywhere near as much thimerosal as did children from much earlier birth cohorts, when the prevalence of ASD was lower. Therefore, it's clear that according the the metric frequently used by anti-vaccine activists (you might remember that Mark Blaxill relied on the California data set in 2001 as he helped get the thimerosal-is-responsible-for-an-epidemic-of-autism meme going) ASD in California continued to increase in California years after exposure to thimerosal was reduced--and in kids who very clearly had lower exposure.

Blaxill wrote, "the rates of autism in California (properly adjusted for birth year and age at time of data collection) have gone steadily upward.” Blaxill continued: “The continued increases in autism rates provide strong evidence against the idea that early thimerosal exposure, and only thimerosal exposure, is causing the increased population rates of autism."”

nowGo4ward on Jun 22, 2013 at 15:03:03

“They've ignored the California ban. As you will see at this link, there is an exemption for even this year:

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/immunize/Pages/CaliforniaThimerosalLaw.aspx

What is the risk of having a child with autism in those who get thimerosal containing flu vaccine during pregnancy? And even more, what is the risk if they dutifully vaccinate their infants with flu vaccine and all other vaccines with an even higher than the 1990s burden of aluminum, which acts in synergy with thimerosal?”
Autism, Air Pollution Link Confirmed By First National Study

Autism, Air Pollution Link Confirmed By First National Study

Commented Jun 18, 2013 at 22:41:44 in Parents

“Of course you should compare the prevalence of autism with respect to care-seeking behaviors, don't you think?

The investigators from the University of Miami and Vanderbilt University noted: "Further studies are underway to address the cultural norms and customs that may be playing a role in the reporting style of caregivers."

Got that?

Please provide some peer-reviewed references to support your assertion that the "Old Order Amish community ... are primarily NOT vaccinated" since that is completely at odds with the reports available in the scientific literature. Thanks.”
Autism, Air Pollution Link Confirmed By First National Study

Autism, Air Pollution Link Confirmed By First National Study

Commented Jun 18, 2013 at 21:52:07 in Parents

“The "amish rarely get autism" meme was started by Dan Olmsted, a former journalist who didn't even bother to contact the Clinic for Special Children in Strasburg before posting his nonsense.”

notakochdealer on Jun 19, 2013 at 01:14:27

“Google it..... There are more cases every year.”
Autism, Air Pollution Link Confirmed By First National Study

Autism, Air Pollution Link Confirmed By First National Study

Commented Jun 18, 2013 at 21:46:30 in Parents

“University of Miami and Vanderbilt.”
Autism, Air Pollution Link Confirmed By First National Study

Autism, Air Pollution Link Confirmed By First National Study

Commented Jun 18, 2013 at 21:41:57 in Parents

“That's just nonsense.

Perhaps if Dr. Mayer Eisentein could have been bothered to actually check the prevalence of ASD among the Amish, he might have understand that he is completely mistaken--but, fortunately, we don't have to rely on a fool who doesn't check: physicians and scientists at the University of Miami and Vanderbilt University DID check. The prevalence of ASD among the Amish is comparable to that of the general population.

Oops.

BTW, citing whale.to is an admission of profound ignorance. Just so you know.

Jeez.”

nowGo4ward on Jun 19, 2013 at 12:00:57

“Do you have a reference for the rate of autism in the Amish who are not vaccinated?”
Autism Risk Tied To Exposure To Traffic Pollution [STUDY]

Autism Risk Tied To Exposure To Traffic Pollution [STUDY]

Commented Nov 28, 2012 at 22:06:12 in Parents

“Don't let the evidence influence your beliefs.”
Rick Perry's Future Plans: July 2013 Announcement Reportedly Coming, Grover Norquist Behind 2016 Run

Rick Perry's Future Plans: July 2013 Announcement Reportedly Coming, Grover Norquist Behind 2016 Run

Commented Nov 28, 2012 at 19:00:08 in Politics

“If he can return to school and improve his grades--especially that "D" in a course called "meats"--he might make a capable veterinary technician.”
Autism Risk Tied To Exposure To Traffic Pollution [STUDY]

Autism Risk Tied To Exposure To Traffic Pollution [STUDY]

Commented Nov 27, 2012 at 23:38:57 in Parents

“Of course the authors did not claim either that pollution was solely responsible for autism or that the increase in autism is due to changes in pollution levels--especially since it's already been convincingly demonstrated that much of the apparent increase is due to changes in diagnostic practices and increased awareness--neither factor, of course, has anything to do with pollution.”

hp blogger Michael McWatters on Nov 28, 2012 at 09:37:18

“The first sentence of this article reads: "Babies who are exposed to lots of traffic-related air pollution in the womb and during their first year of life are more likely to become autistic, suggests a new study."

Two sentences later, the study's own author is quoted thus: "'We're not saying traffic pollution causes autism, but it may be a risk factor for it.'"

As someone who is very interested in the actual science behind autism, articles like this cause a lot of panic (and generate a lot of clicks) unnecessarily by distorting the facts.”
Autism Risk Tied To Exposure To Traffic Pollution [STUDY]

Autism Risk Tied To Exposure To Traffic Pollution [STUDY]

Commented Nov 27, 2012 at 23:32:07 in Parents

“Ah, yes, that "bombshell" would be the 2009 Neurotoxicology paper that included Andrew Wakefield as the senior author--until it was withdrawn by the journal. The next year, the same paper--curiously without Wakefield as an author (which suggests that the original authors clearly misunderstand how authors of scientific articles are credited) later resurfaced in the Polish low-impact Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health Part A. I'm not sure why you consider this a "bombshell" except perhaps because the clueless author of the article that you read didn't seem to be aware that the paper was published some years ago and that it is, indeed, rather poor quality. In particular, "neither the methods nor the results mention any correction for multiple comparisons. After all, with a cutoff of p”
Dr. Oz And Dr. Diane Harper Discusses Gardasil, The HPV Vaccine, And Men Who Have Sex With Men On HuffPost Live (VIDEO)

Dr. Oz And Dr. Diane Harper Discusses Gardasil, The HPV Vaccine, And Men Who Have Sex With Men On HuffPost Live (VIDEO)

Commented Oct 19, 2012 at 20:49:53 in Gay Voices

“The link that you provided might be interesting if there was any plausible biological connection between exposure to HPV capsid proteins (rather than to infectious HPV virions) and premature ovarian failure--but there isn't.

Accordingly, it seems reasonable to infer that in your ignorance you are sinmply repeating misinformation posted by other ignorant people who are similarly unable to understand basic biology.

Carry on.”
Vaccines: 'Shot-Limiting' On The Rise In Portland, Study Finds

Vaccines: 'Shot-Limiting' On The Rise In Portland, Study Finds

Commented Jun 22, 2012 at 20:35:37 in Parents

“If you're planning to make any decisions based on your understanding of immunology, you should also understand that in your brief post you've clearly demonstrated that you don't understand immunology. Really.

An introductory textbook might help.”
Vaccines: 'Shot-Limiting' On The Rise In Portland, Study Finds

Vaccines: 'Shot-Limiting' On The Rise In Portland, Study Finds

Commented Jun 22, 2012 at 19:04:13 in Parents

“"Mumps, measles and chicken pox are harmless and should. be treated as such."

Unfortunately, that sort of ignorance seems contagious.

For example: During the 1989-1991 measles outbreak in the US, there were more than 100 deaths among the 55,000 cases, or one death per 550 cases, which, according to the CDC, should have reminded "U.S. residents of the potential severity of measles, even in the era of modern medical care." [Gindler J, Tinker S, Markowitz L, et al. Acute measles mortality in the United States, 1987--2002. J Infect Dis 2004;189(Suppl 1):S69--77.] About one in one thousand cases of measles develops into encephalitis, which causes death in about 15% of such cases and leaves 20-40% of the survivors with long-term neurological damage. Last year one-third of US measles cases required hospitalization.

You have an interesting idea of what "harmless" means.”

Alki Gifting on Jun 23, 2012 at 01:33:20

“Actually it was not my intention to put Measles in there since I have never had it.
I mentioned Chicken Pox and Mumps several times which I stated I had, and mistakenly added Measles once in my entire post.
I consider Mumps and Chicken Pox to be harmless. I have never had Measles.

Now having clarified that -- I could give a rat's behind about your statistics and care even less for your insults.”
To Reporters on the Eve of Autism Awareness Month

To Reporters on the Eve of Autism Awareness Month

Commented Apr 1, 2014 at 13:54:01 in Media

“Journalists should understand the recent ground breaking work that "changes the direction of [autism] research from postnatal to prenatal," according to Dr. Eric Courchesne of UC San Diego. "Because this points to the biological onset in prenatal life, it calls sharply into question other popular notions about autism."

Courchesne's research results show that beginning early in fetal development areas of the brain do not develop normally in ASD: autism begins before birth. [1]

Autism has been previously associated with abnormal prenatal proliferation of neurons leading to an excess of neurons in prefrontal cortex. [2] Recent studies demonstrate that gene networks associated with autism are expressed in the pre-frontal cortex during mid-fetal development [3] and that a regulatory protein that suppresses mutation in differentiating neuronal precursor cells during prenatal development is abnormally low in ASD. [4]

1. Stoner R et al. Patches of Disorganization in the Neocortex of Children with Autism. N Engl J Med 2014; 370:1209-1219

2. Willsey A et al. Coexpression networks implicate human midfetal deep cortical projection neurons in the pathogenesis of autism. Cell. 2013 Nov 21;155(5):997-1007

3. Parikshak N et al. Integrative functional genomic analyses implicate specific molecular pathways and circuits in autism. Cell. 2013 Nov 21;155(5):1008-21

4. Nagarajan R et al. Reduced MeCP2 expression is frequent in autism frontal cortex and correlates with aberrant MECP2 promoter methylation. Epigenetics. 2006 Oct-Dec;1(4):e1-11”
5 Things Everyone Should Know About Autism

5 Things Everyone Should Know About Autism

Commented Mar 11, 2014 at 23:34:18 in Canada Living

“It's interesting to see someone with no scientific or medical training dispute the findings of those who have dedicated their lives to the study of fields related to ASD.

Why should anyone believe that you are right and the experts are all wrong?

Oh, wait! I know, I know! It's a conspiracy!”
5 Things Everyone Should Know About Autism

5 Things Everyone Should Know About Autism

Commented Mar 11, 2014 at 23:32:01 in Canada Living

“Hannah Poling's mother recently wrote on your web site that her daughter was compensated for a vaccine "table injury" rather than for autism. It's quite odd to see someone yet again claim something that is not true.”
huffingtonpost entry

The True Cost of Not Vaccinating Your Children: Reviving a Dead Disease

Commented Sep 26, 2013 at 01:32:36 in Healthy Living

“Mitting was not tasked with evaluating Wakefield's research fraud. For example, Mitting did not ask why Wakefield changed the data between the August 1997 draft of his paper and the final draft that he submitted months later to the Lancet.”
I'm Coming Out... as Pro-Vaccine

I'm Coming Out... as Pro-Vaccine

Commented Sep 25, 2013 at 20:41:25 in Parents

“People miss things, Victor. Prospective and retrospective studies clearly show that parents miss the subtle early signs of ASD, so any attempt by parents to date the onset of ASD is obviously limited.

People miss things, Victor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo
huffingtonpost entry

The True Cost of Not Vaccinating Your Children: Reviving a Dead Disease

Commented Sep 25, 2013 at 19:31:54 in Healthy Living

“The immune response increases fever.”
huffingtonpost entry

The True Cost of Not Vaccinating Your Children: Reviving a Dead Disease

Commented Sep 25, 2013 at 19:31:19 in Healthy Living

“OMG. That probably has absolutely nothing to the uniformly high rate of MMR vaccine uptake over decades--no, that must be due to "Waldorf philosophy."

There is NOTHING in Mitting's decision that vindicates Wakefield's research; Mitting accepted Walker-Smith's defense that he was not engaged in any research.”
I'm Coming Out... as Pro-Vaccine

I'm Coming Out... as Pro-Vaccine

Commented Sep 25, 2013 at 18:53:51 in Parents

“Interesting. There are essentially two types of children who have seizures after vaccination: (1) children who have benign febrile seizures that could have been triggered by any elevation in body temperature, and (2) children with pre-existing mutations that cause seizure disorders whether or not the first seizure happens to occur in proximity to vaccination. Which type of child is yours?”
I'm Coming Out... as Pro-Vaccine

I'm Coming Out... as Pro-Vaccine

Commented Sep 25, 2013 at 18:49:09 in Parents

“Um, in what scientific field related to genetics, biochemistry, neurobiology, or developmental biology did you earn your Ph.D.?”
I'm Coming Out... as Pro-Vaccine

I'm Coming Out... as Pro-Vaccine

Commented Sep 25, 2013 at 18:46:57 in Parents

“Although I'm expert in a particular field after studying medicine and molecular biology for decades and developing a career in medical research, I hire a tax expert every year. Expertise in one field isn't necessarily transferable to another field, and frankly, although I could help you within my narrow field of expertise, you'd be ill-advised to let me do your taxes.

Your suggestion that parents should "think for themselves . . . and develop their own vaccination schedule" is hubris. And foolish.”

sabelmouse on Sep 28, 2013 at 08:45:04

“the idea of eradicating all diseases is hubris of the highest order. as is the idea that someone studying something in a lab can and should make ethical decisions about invasive medical procedures that can have a life or death [or lifelong disability] effect. taxes don't compare, even remotely.”

Lulu0418 on Sep 26, 2013 at 12:09:21

“Oh, it's "hubris," is it? Did you get that from your thesaurus?”

silveredmadness on Sep 26, 2013 at 09:30:40

“Delayed scheduling is great... as long as you're consulting with your doctor about it. Making those decisions arbitrarily is the problem.”

agness nutter on Sep 25, 2013 at 20:10:32

“Great post.”
huffingtonpost entry

What Causes Autism Spectrum Disorder?

Commented Aug 6, 2013 at 22:17:05 in Healthy Living

“Anne Dachel wrote: “So what do we do about the nagging claim that vaccines cause autism?”

Well, a good start would be to acknowledge that that “nagging claim” is based on hypotheses that have been proven to be incorrect, and then we can move on.

Your buddy Mark Blaxill realized that thimerosal could not be responsible for an “epidemic of autism.” He wrote: “The continued increases in autism rates provide strong evidence against the idea that early thimerosal exposure, and only thimerosal exposure, is causing the increased population rates of autism." Years later, now that dramatic reductions in exposure to thimerosal-containing vaccines in Sweden, Quebec, Denmark, Iceland, and California have been followed, years later, by continuing increases in the prevalence of ASD, the accumulating evidence makes it absolutely clear that the thimerosal hypothesis is well and truly dead.

Wakefield’s hypothesis is just silly—but you should have known that the remarkably coincident increases in the prevalence of ASD in the UK (where thimerosal remained constant) and in the US (where MMR exposure remained constant) made those who claimed that MMR AND thimerosal were responsible for an “epidemic” look ridiculous.

The brain growth trajectory of children who regress into autism is abnormal long before their parents report regression--and it likely starts in the first trimester of pregnancy. Children who later develop ASD have abnormal accumulations of fluid in their brains of the type that has been shown by prenatal MRI studies to begin to develop before birth.”
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