“McCain is famously a survivor of torture--if anyone in the world understands it, it is him. It does not work, simply because a person in pain will say anything to stop the pain. They'll tell you they're really a hermaphrodite if it stops the pain. An interrogator would have to know the truth walking in there to recognize it when they hear it, and if they know the truth then what's the point of asking?
South Korea just elected a dictator's daughter to the Presidency, and they're worried about going back to a dictatorship under her. She and anyone else with power will look to the United States for what she can and can't get away with. We need to set an example now.”
Tom58 on Dec 19, 2012 at 22:03:15
“Yet he fully supported Bush's torture war crimes. How can you defend him?”
duzntmatr on Dec 19, 2012 at 21:36:24
“Where did you get this? His book? Are we sure it was the exact way he said it was?”
“I'll agree with those who are telling you to go to a lawyer. That said, if you still get stuck with weigh-ins, here's my fat-girl advice:
Drink a ton of water before your weigh-in. Water itself is heavy, and if a girl wants to lower her pounds she takes a diuretic to flush out water. For you drinking water could be a healthy way to appear heavier.
Muscle weighs more than fat, so if you absolutely must gain weight, go Thor. Lots of protein. Weight training. You'll look leaner but weigh more, hee hee hee hee.”
“The Economist points at Scandinavia as examples of developed, egalitarian, successful economies. We could start by looking there.”
FreeSpeech4All on Mar 12, 2013 at 12:00:25
“Scandinavian countries have some of the best societies in terms of taking care of their own. However, in this country, their societies are branded as evil "socialism." Our citizenry is dumbed-down to believe in gun-toting individualism rather than the good of all, and we see the resulting breakdown of our society. A more egalitarian society is never going to happen when you have a few rich people controlling everything.”
OldTulsan on Mar 12, 2013 at 10:34:04
“Norway and Sweden dealt with their oligarchs decades ago.”
vinyl1 on Mar 12, 2013 at 10:12:05
“They are small countries with one ethnic group and culture. And Norway has a lot of oil wealth.
We are a huge country with many different cultures. Naturally, there are far more differences here, and a lot more opportunities to make lots of money.”
“Ummm, the Soviet Union died, circa 1989.
The emergency room has to *stabilize* you. They don't have to make you better, do any kind of follow up, offer you any kind of rehabilitation. That's not what I call quality health care.
I had a chronic condition that is easily treated with the right medication, but in the U.S. I couldn't afford the doctor's visits. Here in Asia where I don't even speak the language, I'm healthy and my condition is treated for less than the cost of my daily coffee.
Sure, blame Obama for everything...”
“I had acid reflux for over a decade and no health insurance to cover it. I tried diet, exercise, water, vinegar...nothing worked. I went to a doctor in Korea who shrugged, said it was a common affliction, and sold me a daily medication for a few cents a day. It was the first time I could remember having a full night's sleep. My doctor in Japan made a slight adjustment and now I eat and sleep normally. Simple doctor visit, simple prescription, and I may have headed off esophageal cancer.
Simple remedies don't solve everything. Medical expertise means so much more. Now I'm healthier, more productive, and get to keep my teeth for a few more years.
And I don't crow about what a frugal, healthy, virtuous person I am.”
Slave Of Left on Jan 16, 2013 at 00:26:50
“I crow about the virtue of seeking and finding knowledge. It wasn't simple or easy. I spent months cataloging my many symptoms, and months more deciding on a course of action. I made mistakes, I still make mistakes (few). I relied on "experts" that I deemed credible. Knowledge is power.
I am very glad that you found your answer. Many rely on the white coats to provide it for them, and simply give up when they are told it is "normal" or without hope for improvement.
Ayn Rand "preached" that one should be their own "authority". It never meant to not look outside yourself, it simply means to use your own judgment to the best ability. I have had many fine teachers, most of whom I have found on my own...”
“Actually sir, it is insurance, precisely. Risk is spread over a wide group, some pay more and some pay less but all receive benefits when they need them.
Your brother's kids--besides furthering your family's genes--are also your concern. If one of those 'sniffles' turns out to be the next drug-resistant tuberculosis, you're going to be awfully glad you 'subsidized' his health care. As will the kids and the parents of the kids he's come in contact with.
“I think you're putting the cart before the horse here. Productivity is increased because of technology--not the other way around. And having been poor and without health insurance, I assure you that modern medicine, minus some painkillers and cold pills, is *not* affordable below the poverty line. People die for lack of money. Do you have the first notion how expensive X-rays are? A doctor visit even?
(Here where there's national health care the only obstacle I have to treatment is language, and for that I can get a translator. Back in the U.S., if I got sick I had hope, and a charity clinic with a two hour wait for when hope failed.)
Technology prices fall predictably when the technology is widely adopted--I'm betting you know that.”
“So you're saying that because "poor" people have refrigerators, microwaves, DVD players, electricity and indoor heating, that they're not *really* poor and that they've shared in the nation's prosperity...fairly?
We make more money now than we did in the 1870's (when electricity was first sold to the public) but I wouldn't call it "far, far more" in inflation-adjusted terms. Most people I know make only enough to cover modest rent, utilities, and car expenses, with nothing left over at the end of the month. The word for that is "subsistence wages". So the working classes are not making more money after taxes and basic living expenses.
“Whether they have shared in prosperity "fairly" is a subjective concept; what seems fair to one is unfare to another and it's not a very effective subject for debate.
That said, of course people are better of with modern amenities than they were before them. How many people do you know today who would gladly return to the standard of living of the 19th century - no modern medicine (no X-rays or apsrin, much less anything more complex than basic penicillin - even the polio vaccice wasn't invented until the mid 20th century), no electricity, no automobiles (except for the very, very wealthy), no mass-media, no refrigerated food, wash all clothing by hand, most jobs involving physical labor with no electric motors (e.g., drills and power saws)...I could go on for a very, very long time. How many of your friends would relish the prospect of that life compared to what they have today? These inventions are affordable by the masses - even those below the poverty line - because of increased productivity of modern workers and their increased pay.
As for your little item about inflation, it doesn't work either. Modern inflation measurements only go back to 1913, but the median wage in 1915 was about $685; adjusted for inflation, that's still only $16,000 in 2012 money. Keep in mind that's the median, not a poverty line estimate.”
“In the 50's there was no downloading of music and videos--the market has radically changed and it's not changing back. This "entertainment" tax is not feasible today.
However, if we had national health care, a guy like The Boss would not be at a financial disadvantage for providing health care for his employees, which is the right thing to do. Nobody could undercut him on that expense.”
“Um, both the economy and the standard of living are far better. Electrification yeilds simple home heating (as opposed to firewood), home lighting (better than candles), in-home refrigeration (longer food preservation), home entertainment (beyond books in candlelight)...
People not only have a higher standard of living, but also make far, far more money in inflation-adjusted after-tax wages.
It's a little baffling as to why I need to explain these very basic principles of economic development and human health.”
“"Job creators" should only get tax breaks for creating jobs--not because they *might* create jobs if they have more wealth. They talk about the poor being irresponsible and lazy. Pot, meet kettle.
Look at the people who Bruce Springsteen and John Mellenkamp sing about. This is definitely a White and rural problem in addition to everybody else the Reverend has mentioned. Talk to the heartland about the jobs they lost to deregulation and outsourcing, bring them under the social justice umbrella. They remember when an honest lifetime's work got you an honest comfortable retirement, and they're yearning to go back to that day.”
Amaryllis612 on Dec 5, 2012 at 21:12:47
“LOL. And how rich are Bruce Springsteen and John Mellenkamp? How many people do they employ? You think they give their roadies health insurance? Get real!”