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Mormon Leaders Told To Stay Out Of Politics

Mormon Leaders Told To Stay Out Of Politics

Commented Jun 30, 2011 at 15:38:15 in Religion

“Various Christian religions and orthodox Jews and other organizations backed prop 8. Many Mormons were against prop 8. I know many of them as I lived in LA at the time. It was the the San Francisco Archbishop who invited Mormons to become involved. 30% of voters were Catholic who voted by a large majority yes on 8. The Mormon church did not give any monetary contributions to prop 8 and did not accept donations to prop 8. Their for profit enterprises pay taxes and there is no record of any of them giving to prop 8. Many denominations did give monetary contributions to prop 8. Churches are allowed to be involved in issues, they just cannot support a particular candidate in elections according to the IRS or give more than 20% of their money to politics. The church came out to support gay rights for housing and employment and does not seem to be against civil unions. These non-monetary donations of faxes, letters, etc. would seem to have come from local leaders acting on their own choice. How many higher church leaders were yes on 8 compared to the number of leaders? Has the official president of the Mormon church come out and said he is or was fully yes on 8?”

Jennifer Mead on Jun 30, 2011 at 16:29:59

Sloane7 on Jun 30, 2011 at 16:27:22

“"Mormons have been active participants in the campaign both as volunteers and financial contributors, giving an estimated 43 percent — some $8.4 million — to the Proposition 8 campaign, according to the Web site mormonsfor8.com. There are about 770,000 Mormon church members in California, but Mormons from outside the state have been encouraged to give money and time to help pass the measure."
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/10/now-the-mormon.html

There are thousands of links on this, it took me two seconds.”

tbeth1957 on Jun 30, 2011 at 16:21:55

“I did get a little cranky with my sister about the Mormon support for Proposition 8. The reports I read seemed to suggest that an entity related to the church had given over $100,000 towards Prop 8, but she insisted that the church as an institution had done no such thing. That you for clarifying the sources of the LDS support for the measure. And, as you say about Mormons in general, while my sister balks at marriage equality (we agree to disagree about that), she does support civil unions and equal treatment for the gay/lesbian community.”

Cacey on Jun 30, 2011 at 16:11:05

“The number of half truths in your post is amazing. The new Archbishop of San Francisco was formerly the Bishop of Utah and had a very close personal relationship with the late LDS President. The Archblishop and President joined together, a unique stance considerting their traditional animosity, to stop gay marriage in California at any cost. The position of both men as well as the Cardinal Archbishop of LA, better known for his favoring illegals, joined them and this triumverate envigorated their congrigations and encouraged their members to fund those who would deny equality. This was enirely church driven.”

blukazoo on Jun 30, 2011 at 16:04:49

“You are mistaken about the Mormon support of "yes on 8". There was more than just monetary support from them.”

jedierick on Jun 30, 2011 at 15:47:10

“This is correct.”
huffingtonpost entry

"The Book Of Mormon" -- Why Aren't More People Offended?

Commented Jun 29, 2011 at 02:07:21 in Entertainment

“There are many Mormon movies that play in the western states. I saw one at a theater in Honolulu called states of grace. There are others like the singles ward and such which make fun for entertainment sake. They are mostly watched by Mormons. The Book of Mormon seems similar, but more extreme as it is coming from the southpark makers. Trey Parker has had many Mormon friends and dated a Mormon girl and talks quite positively regarding the LDS church. I think that if someone is offended then maybe they are taking the musical too seriously which it is meant to entertain. Las Vegas newspapers have talked about how the musical would be perfect for Vegas because Mormons settled it and there are lots of Mormons there and that Mormons and non-Mormons would go and see it. The Salt Lake Tribune has made similar statements. It was created by Parker and Stone because of their experiences growing up around Mormons and they have stated that most of these experiences have been positive.”

BlackJAC on Jun 29, 2011 at 15:55:24

“Hell, Battlestar Galactica is initially rooted in Mormon theology.”

hp blogger Michael Giltz on Jun 29, 2011 at 15:27:43

“Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I'm sure Book of Mormon will tour the entire country before doing a sit-down in Vegas a la Avenue Q.”
Jon Huntsman: I'd 'Respect' New York Law Allowing For Same-Sex Marriage

Jon Huntsman: I'd 'Respect' New York Law Allowing For Same-Sex Marriage

Commented Jun 22, 2011 at 22:39:55 in Politics

“Once the Mormon church offered support for gay rights regarding housing and employment, it became law. I could see the Mormon church supporting civil unions. This would help out gay rights especially in Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, and Nevada. Only some Mormons are for gay marriage, but I would say most are for civil unions and the Mormon church leaders would appear to be as well. The church has been making extra efforts to reach out to it's many gay members lately. I would hope that this outreach continues and progresses and that gay and lesbian Mormons will feel loved and included in this process. The church has always said that all are loved and welcome.”

Haight on Jun 30, 2011 at 06:55:41

“The Mormon church spent tens of millions to fight gays marriage in California. Mormons are also not for civil unions, because they believe ingaging in gay sex is a sin. My nephew and cousin are constantly told by their bishops that it is okay to be gay, but never okay to act on it. I've yet to meet a bishop in Idaho or Utah that held any other opinion.”
Elizabeth Smart Spreads The Gospel

Elizabeth Smart Spreads The Gospel

Commented May 27, 2011 at 10:47:30 in Religion

“You cannot blame the parents. They have been with her every step of the way. Supposedly, the mother felt sorry for the man and said that she would pay him to do some work at the house after she gave him some money on the street. At that point he was clean cut and appeared just down on his luck. He was a conman and he fooled many others, but now he will die in prison. Who would expect that some man you help out once would break into your house and kidnap your daughter at knifepoint in a fairly safe community in a well off area? The family has been very vocal and involved trying to prevent and help others in these situations across the nation. They have met with government leaders, including the president, donated a lot of cash, and spent a lot of time doing this. They also do not make any excuses for the guy and hold him fully accountable before the law.”
Elizabeth Smart Spreads The Gospel

Elizabeth Smart Spreads The Gospel

Commented May 27, 2011 at 06:51:42 in Religion

“This girl has been through hell and the fact that she can go out and serve other people is inspiring. I am sure she was faced with many questions and doubts about religion after her ordeal. The narcissistic psychopath that made her life a nightmare could easily of destroyed her identity, faith, and life by perverting everything in it-including her spirituality. It appears that she has found peace through serving others and spirituality. She is all the wiser now being able to feel and see spirituality for what it is and even separate it from perceived religious devotion. Mitchell feigned religiosity, but was far from spiritual.”