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U.S. Roman Catholic Church And Protestant Denominations Agree To Recognize Each Other's Baptisms

U.S. Roman Catholic Church And Protestant Denominations Agree To Recognize Each Other's Baptisms

Commented Jan 29, 2013 at 20:18:01 in Religion

“Great. Now we can all shower together.....but only if you're Christian.”

Jacob McGill on Jan 29, 2013 at 20:32:05

“Our water bills are going to go way down.”
Aleah Chapin's Nudes Show The Beauty Of The Aging Human Form At Flowers Gallery (NSFW PHOTOS)

Aleah Chapin's Nudes Show The Beauty Of The Aging Human Form At Flowers Gallery (NSFW PHOTOS)

Commented Jan 29, 2013 at 02:23:52 in Arts

“Decaying fruit, wilted flowers, creeping insects--all these elements in paintings throughout history have symbolized death and mortality. Aleah Chapin's models --and some viewers-- may appreciate the artist's efforts, but I don't see any of the resilience, grace, wisdom and experience that might have more profoundly depicted something truly lasting and beautiful about these women, telling us who they are and what their lives represent. Why emphasize only their female bodies, wizened and wrinkled, dried, cut up and withered? This physical part of them is dying, but so much more beautiful aspects are still growing and alive. Shown as they are here, all that is youthful and beautiful about the spirit of these women is trapped in this grotesque display of their physical deterioration, leaving them (and the viewer) as cold as a corpse.

These paintings don’t romanticize or beautify the aging female form. It is what it is, but it sure as hell ain't pretty. Viewing them feels like accidentally seeing your grandma in the buff. TMI.”

Delightful Girl on Jan 29, 2013 at 14:59:43

“Wow, so perfectly stated. You took the words right out of my mouth!”
Company Buys $8000 Horse Lamp By Front Design For Lobby (PHOTO)

Company Buys $8000 Horse Lamp By Front Design For Lobby (PHOTO)

Commented Jan 19, 2013 at 18:03:36 in HuffPost Home

“He's a party animal.”
Unholy Jesus Art: 12 Unorthodox Depictions Of Jesus (PHOTOS)

Unholy Jesus Art: 12 Unorthodox Depictions Of Jesus (PHOTOS)

Commented Dec 29, 2012 at 19:29:31 in Arts

“As a faithful Christian, none of this art offends me. Artists are like demigods, creating works in their own image. Many people believe Jesus really existed and that he had the dual nature of both God and a human being. Most of the works here depict a very human side of the artists' vision of the Christian deity (for example, Jesus shown as a sexual being or pop culture figure). Some simply show the artist's lack of divine artistic talent (like that old lady's horrifying attempt to restore a mural painting). "Crucifixion" by Glenn Barr is my favorite. Who among us hasn't -- at least once in his life -- felt like for all the good he's accomplished, will still end up surrounded by blood-sucking angels and get stuck paying the tab? For those of you without a sense of humanity (or humor), let him cast the first stone.”

Cosa Nostradamus on Jan 1, 2013 at 12:47:02

“Well said.”
Jason Festerman Allegedly Sprays 'Liquid Ass' At Son's School In Marine City

Jason Festerman Allegedly Sprays 'Liquid Ass' At Son's School In Marine City

Commented Dec 27, 2012 at 17:29:56 in Weird News

“There's no such thing as human trash, but Liquid Ass enthusiasts and their empty canisters are badly in need of some recycling. Admitting their behavior of spreading cans of stink at various locations has nothing to do with this family's name, but everything to do with making a bad name for themselves. Uncle Fester, in comparison, was a man who had class.”
Jason Festerman Allegedly Sprays 'Liquid Ass' At Son's School In Marine City

Jason Festerman Allegedly Sprays 'Liquid Ass' At Son's School In Marine City

Commented Dec 22, 2012 at 09:03:13 in Weird News

“Liquid Ass enthusiasts, the Festermans, embody their family name.”

Jake481 on Dec 22, 2012 at 19:51:32

“Geez, their name really is Festerman, my god.Classic trash.”
Cat Helicopter Created By Artist Bart Jansen On Display Now (VIDEO)

Cat Helicopter Created By Artist Bart Jansen On Display Now (VIDEO)

Commented Jun 4, 2012 at 23:05:58 in Weird News

“A taxidermic cat helicopter is ART? And I thought moose heads were creepy! There's a reason this story is in the "Weird" news. I'm going to convince myself it's more internet hoax news.”

Haight Ismine on Jun 4, 2012 at 23:26:48

“It all went down hill since Piero Manzoni -

' In May 1961 Manzoni created 90 small cans, sealed with the text Artist's Shit (Merda d'Artista). Each 30-gram can was priced by weight based on the current value of gold (around $1.12 a gram in 1960). The contents of the cans remain a much-disputed enigma, since opening them would destroy the value of the artwork. In the following years, the cans have spread to various art collections all over the world and netted large prices, far outstripping inflation. The most recent can to be auctioned, #19, sold on 26 February 2007 in the USA for $80,000. '”
The Mentor I Never Met

The Mentor I Never Met

Commented Dec 27, 2012 at 17:05:05 in Healthy Living

“Lisa, I was diagnosed with stage IV breast cancer (inflammatory) in February of 2011. It came on in what I thought was an infection or mastitis. The news that the cancer had spread to an advanced stage was devastating and life-changing. It's been a challenge to find support online because I have found that the words I use to describe my on-going personal experience with cancer are offensive or annoying to many other MBC patients. Writing positive and hopeful words has led some to ostracize me to the much-maligned pink fantasy land of ribbons, rainbows and unicorns. Yes, I have faith in God and belief that miracles sometimes occur, but I am also grounded in reality and science and placing strong emphasis on the mind-body connection that has been backed up by the medical community. How any one person chooses to live with their own cancer diagnosis (regardless of stage) should not cause such backlash from the MBC community. People who don't even know me have judged and categorized me to be part of a certain "type" of cancer patient that acknowledges only pink and pretty things. Nothing could be farther from the truth. It's good that you have found such support from the blogging community -- and your decision to continue blogging openly, honestly, and non-judgmentally has surely been instrumental in that regard. Know that you'll have my support and encouragement along the way, through the good days and the bad, come what may.”
The Mentor I Never Met

The Mentor I Never Met

Commented Dec 21, 2012 at 12:52:48 in Healthy Living

“Thank you for sharing your thoughts about cancer. I've never known that in-between time (the life between early-stage "pink ribbon" detection and advanced-stage metastasis years later) because my breast cancer was advanced from first diagnosis with mets to lungs and bone. Life changes forever with that diagnosis as we’re told we'll never get better without the discovery of a cure, but it's so difficult to explain the facts of the prognosis and a life-long treatment to friends and acquaintances who don't fully understand what it means to have metastatic breast cancer. The broken rib syndrome (also weakened from heavy radiation) is something many of us share. It's very painful--but not a condition people can readily see from the outside. I always remind myself that most people are genuinely trying to be kind with their comments and gestures, even when they lack understanding of what's really going on. Your post is appealing because of the way you expressed your feelings so poignantly without casting blame or judgment on anyone else. We are likely to encounter people each day who don't know us or who lack a full understanding of our sufferings, but you have the wisdom and good nature not to lash out and tear these people down for being somehow deliberately ignorant, hollow, and callous in their efforts to reach out to you. If there's a face of hope for metastatic breast cancer, it should be yours.”

Lisa Adams on Dec 22, 2012 at 19:09:15

“Cate, I have tears in my eyes. I am honored that I can express what you have experienced, or at least a portion of it. It's my hope to be able to speak for some in the mets community and your vote of confidence means so much. I am sorry that you were diagnosed with such advanced cancer. I don't know when your diagnosis was but indeed the uncertainty is a challenge to bear. I'm new to this stage IV diagnosis but I know clearly what I need to be doing with my time. This is a large part of it. Thank you, and I hope to hear from you again, here or on my website.”
German 'Forest Boy' Photo Released By Berlin Police

German 'Forest Boy' Photo Released By Berlin Police

Commented Jun 15, 2012 at 12:54:36 in World

“Oh, Forest Boy! He's in Dutch now. A regular Robin hood.”
Grieving For Who I Was Before Cancer

Grieving For Who I Was Before Cancer

Commented Jun 8, 2012 at 03:38:30 in Women

“That remark was cruel and unnecessary. You have obviously brought a mean streak back from your personal experience in "Hell." Leave it where you found it and show some respect to this woman who may be suffering in ways your mind cannot fathom. Lizandrsn obviously meant well with her comments. There is no attempt to hide behind rainbows, only a hope expressed that Meredith Israel Thomas will one day move beyond her grief. Your words are bitter, cynical poison. Living each day as well as one is able, and finding a new focus on hope and positive thinking is a choice anyone with a terminal illness can make. We'll do it in our own time and in our own way. Placing efforts in moving forward from grief is not to deny grief, but to find ways to move through it (and sometimes back and forth through it) and eventually above and beyond it. Living with stage IV breast cancer doesn't give me (or anyone) the right to crush another human being that you don't feel has lived up to your idea of "Hell." Why strike out at this woman who means only to be supportive? I can't understand how putting someone down so callously could be seen as a useful or supportive attitude for your own or anyone's mental and physical healing. Avoid that kind of attitude like the plague.”
Do All Evangelical Leaders Believe Gays Should Be Put to Death?

Do All Evangelical Leaders Believe Gays Should Be Put to Death?

Commented Jun 2, 2012 at 16:03:57 in Gay Voices

“Yes, and it wouldn't be the first time.”
Paolo Gabriele Arrested: Pope Butler Had Secret Documents In Possession, Vatican Says

Paolo Gabriele Arrested: Pope Butler Had Secret Documents In Possession, Vatican Says

Commented May 27, 2012 at 17:25:23 in Religion

“What a person wants to do with a candlestick in the privacy of his own library should be nobody else's business.”

Nic the wonder puppy on May 27, 2012 at 18:28:11

“oops! For a human your smart”
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Janice Nowinski: Naughty Postcards and the Man by the River

Commented May 25, 2012 at 04:19:52 in Arts

“I've the deepest respect for the knowledge of academics and specialists in their field—but I’m skeptical of self-trained artists and MFAs who choose to either ignore or simply patronize the rest of the world as ignorant. They fail to recognize the intrinsic ability we all have to see beyond the material surface of art and then validly comment on it in all its forms. Artists, of all people, should be the most open to varied interpretations of their work. Somehow I doubt Janice Nowinski is losing any cat naps because of anyone’s opinion (academic or otherwise) of her artistic ability—except, maybe, her own. Check out some of artist John Brosio’s remarks in reaction to people’s commentary on his art. Now that's a humble artist who knows his stuff. I can learn from him and others like him. Thank you, William, for pointing me in his direction and so many other great artists. And Donald, for what it’s worth, I think you’re the cat lady’s meow. God help me for loving both you guys and wanting to pummel you at the same time. Signing out to go back to my tower and paint now—but I’ll never be anything but a fairy tale artist. Not such a bad thing, in my opinion.”
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Janice Nowinski: Naughty Postcards and the Man by the River

Commented May 25, 2012 at 04:01:32 in Arts

“Why would you single me out as "angry," saying that my predisposition (whatever your knowledge of me could possibly be) is to blame for keeping good things from happening. Excuse me for correcting you here, sir, but my life is filled with goodness and blessed in every way that is most important. My wish is it could be that way for all people.

I can’t speak for others, but it teaches me nothing when you state that others' comments on this blog prove once again that most people lack the vision that you believe you've mastered. Only after you took the time to engage William in dialogue (and then, only as his being a fellow artist--and certainly not an academic) did you agree to listen or accept anything that he had to say. The rest of us (“most people”) don’t warrant your engagement in dialogue about art, except with you in the role as teacher. Sorry but, where art is concerned, that’s poppycock! (Or puppy ka-ka, depending on the audience.)

You shouldn’t assume the rest of us lack your vision, experience, and depth of thought on art. When I legitimately called you out for doing just that, you say its kinda nasty. That remark *does* make me angry, but not belligerent.

Experience has shown me that teachers and artists who can't admit when they've made a mistake, or who think they’re superior in artistic vision to everyone else, are either mediocre or haven’t reached their potential.”
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Janice Nowinski: Naughty Postcards and the Man by the River

Commented May 25, 2012 at 03:52:18 in Arts

“You call *my* words kinda nasty? Review some of the choice little nuggets chosen by Donald Frazell and your new fan William Wray. Explain what criteria you used to judge my words angry? Is it because I have written pointedly and with earnest conviction about my own experience, using a touch of satire and word play? Does it bother you that I have pointed out how your own first comment here immediately jumped to the usual prescribed academic conclusions? And how you immediately chose to disparage the first few comments (other than your own, of course) as "fun to read" and amusing?

In your initial comment you were quick to point out the flaws in the artwork of Donald Frazell and William Wray and how their opinions lacked merit, and you even stated a particular aspect of Janice Nowinski's art that is not to your personal liking. Can't you see how your comment (and the tone of subsequent ones directed at me) is dismissive and patronizing?

Notice how John Seed posed thought-provoking questions in response to arguments made against him by William Wray and John Currin rather than dismissing them as all-out wrong-headed. His questions said more in a few words than it takes me paragraphs to explain. I can learn from teachers (and writers) like him. (Same goes for Nic the wonder puppy...It’s amazing how much our observant , philosophical dog friends can teach us!)”
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Janice Nowinski: Naughty Postcards and the Man by the River

Commented May 25, 2012 at 03:40:39 in Arts

“William, in reference to Nowinski you said, "The sooner she bundles used condoms to make an effigy to the Virgin Mary the better." That would be conceptual art, which we have agreed in past conversations (outside this blog) is usually a social or political commentary through the use of visual aids rather than attention to artistic detail, beauty and skill. Despite what you think of her skill, I don't believe this is the direction Nowinski is taking with her art.

Adding to your thoughts on conceptual art: as a person of faith who recognizes the religious significance of the Virgin Mary, I would not feel any sacrilege by the piece you just described because it is obviously meant to shock, infuriate, or draw more attention to the artist than to their intended message. In fact, I'd interpret such an effigy as an ineffectual way of making a statement that might better have been put into plain words: The sanctity and "purity" of the Roman Catholic Church might better be protected if there were some barriers in place against potentially disease-ridden men in the hierarchy, who for too long have been allowed to penetrate and inseminate her most vulnerable members. Can you feel the sparks of electricity? Shhhhocking!!!”
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Janice Nowinski: Naughty Postcards and the Man by the River

Commented May 25, 2012 at 02:55:47 in Arts

“William, just wanted to be sure I understood you correctly. I'm new to this Huffington Post blog community and still familiarizing myself with the commenting format. With the delay while comments are pending, I was finding it hard to follow at first, and I think my notifications preferences were not properly set.”

William Wray on May 25, 2012 at 15:11:37

“Cate -- I have no idea how this works-- It's tough to deal with when threads keep going.”
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Janice Nowinski: Naughty Postcards and the Man by the River

Commented May 24, 2012 at 14:00:24 in Arts

“postd1, the trouble with your comment about "seeing" is that you believe that people like factory workers and mothers don't see and/or can't see on their own without *your* help and the help of academics *telling* them what to see and how to think. If you believe in this lie, then you are out of touch with reality. Children see better than all of us (unless you're an adult who has never lost that unpretentious nature, open to the discovery of all things new). If people are too poor or too busy to seek out and spend time looking at art, reading about art and its history, and discovering the beauty that can be expressed in so many different mediums and styles, then it is NOT because they can't see for themselves. They don't need your help to understand art; they need help tending to the basic human need to feed, house, and clothe themselves first! Elitist artists (be they academics or self-taught pedants) have lost their ability to see beyond their own limited experience. These are the people who refuse to acknowledge that anyone outside their circle might add to a valuable and coherent discussion of art. Your loss if you can't see that.”
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Janice Nowinski: Naughty Postcards and the Man by the River

Commented May 24, 2012 at 13:31:11 in Arts

“My previous comment was cut off. The last sentence should have read that during my art classes, the already-know-it-all attitude of most of the other students, and the professors encouraging such, made me want to go off to my own private garret to paint and to heck with the rest of these people. They weren't interested in learning the basics or exchanging ideas. It was all self-centered art-speak nothingness. The reason many artists want to attend the best schools is because it gives them access to some of the greatest artists in the academic world. This is not to say all great artists must be trained in the academy, but there are many admirable ones who have been. How Janice Nowinski is progressing in her career is also admirable, but I have not seen evidence of her accomplishing the basics of drawing. As a graduate of Yale, I would hope that she possesses it. She is developing her own style, but she hasn't reached the level of her professors yet.”
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Janice Nowinski: Naughty Postcards and the Man by the River

Commented May 24, 2012 at 02:58:07 in Arts

“Academics ignore the uneducated. They always have, they always will. Not all of us can better ourselves (except maybe in the most rudimentary ways) when it comes to having access to the best academe has to offer. It's not a question of being judged or patronized. It's a question of being acknowledged as even EXISTING in the same chat room or blog. If you don't have a PhD in art a person is considered not worth reading, personally addressing, or responding to. Even my own sisters, one who is a PhD in English and the other in Art History, will ignore me in conversation with each other when discussing these subjects on a serious, scholarly level. You either have the paper that says you know it all, or you don't. Period. So you can all go on talking to yourselves and keeping your lily-white, elitist high standards. Class (and those without academic degrees) are DISMISSED. I'm going to my ivory tower to paint now. And if anyone wants to speak to me, don't expect me to let down my hair. Build your own ladder.”
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Janice Nowinski: Naughty Postcards and the Man by the River

Commented May 24, 2012 at 02:14:50 in Arts

“William, isn't it true that copying the masters to build up fundamental skills is a traditional method of teaching of art (for both the self-taught and those in art schools)? I realize artists must also learn to draw and paint from life as well, but surely you're not saying that there's any shame in copying to learn and practice a technique. If I understand you correctly, the key is to learn to create your own images, not rely on the work or photograph of some other artist. You've told me the way teaching traditional drawing skills was ridiculed as a dangerous path that would lead students toward falling into the trap of sentimental kitsch when you were in school--but maybe that philosophy is beginning to change. There are still some students who attend one of these academic institutions not for the paper degree alone, but for the collegiate atmosphere where theories and ideas are exchanged on a level that can't be found in an isolated artist's studio or hermit's cabin in the woods. Part of the reason I dropped out of the art was because I couldn't stand what I felt was a pretentious phoniness in many of my fellow classmates (not all, but most). Their blase attitude of "I already know it all because I'm an artist and I can do what I want" was encouraged by the art teachers, too. It's hard for me to put it into words, but it sometimes made me want to go paint”

William Wray on May 24, 2012 at 18:26:18

“You missed my comment were I said it was good for studying. I don't think one should sell their school studies, but perhaps I'm being old fashioned. I like John Currin. He went to Yale and can draw and paint really well. I'm guess he was pretty self- motivated. He also has done copies of old masters, but he has done his own thing to them. My feeling that the Anti- life equation is still being taught at schools is in this case the writer leads with that same old sentimental Kitsch theory at the start of this story.”

Cate Conroy on May 24, 2012 at 13:31:11

“My previous comment was cut off. The last sentence should have read that during my art classes, the already-know-it-all attitude of most of the other students, and the professors encouraging such, made me want to go off to my own private garret to paint and to heck with the rest of these people. They weren't interested in learning the basics or exchanging ideas. It was all self-centered art-speak nothingness. The reason many artists want to attend the best schools is because it gives them access to some of the greatest artists in the academic world. This is not to say all great artists must be trained in the academy, but there are many admirable ones who have been. How Janice Nowinski is progressing in her career is also admirable, but I have not seen evidence of her accomplishing the basics of drawing. As a graduate of Yale, I would hope that she possesses it. She is developing her own style, but she hasn't reached the level of her professors yet.”
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Janice Nowinski: Naughty Postcards and the Man by the River

Commented May 23, 2012 at 21:42:32 in Arts

“DF, it doesn't bother you to hurt people's feelings because you don't see the individual. You see only the universal. The trees are as important as the forest. Stop cutting people down. A long time ago I began to read your comments in terms of a generalization, rather than a specific attack against one person's art. You and William may believe there is no room for kindness toward one's adversaries in a debate--"art is war" and all that. But it is possible to be honorable in this battle that you're fighting.”
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Janice Nowinski: Naughty Postcards and the Man by the River

Commented May 23, 2012 at 21:33:22 in Arts

“I wouldn't classify all academics as "pharisees". Disagree completely with you about placing all academics on the "bad" side of the culture war against the ideal, universal "art prophets" that you often refer to. Artists can come from any background--not only the academics--but not excluding them either. The field of art should be open to all people who create work that strives, as its main goal, to reach all people.”
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Janice Nowinski: Naughty Postcards and the Man by the River

Commented May 23, 2012 at 02:01:47 in Arts

“The art world seems to be largely moved by those who are lucky and wealthy enough to have received enough education to tell them how to see and what to think. But, when you stop and think about it, what most people in the world (i.e., our planet) value when they see art has never been accurately assessed. Too many people have not had the pleasure and luxury to be exposed to a wide range of art or any at all. They’re too occupied with meeting their basic necessities and have never had the opportunity to develop a sincere appreciation by taking the time to look up from their daily grind (or abject poverty) and really “see” beyond the surface for pure aesthetic value. They are focused on the utilitarian aspects. These people may judge the value of art by the fame of the artist, the price it brings in at auction, and how well promoted an artist is by people in the system. True what you said, that luck in life has a lot to do with who makes it to the level of an art superstar. Luck also has much to do with who gets access to the best art school education. I’d love to have gone to Yale and study under Vija Celmins!”

DonaldFrazell on May 24, 2012 at 12:58:41

“I dont see just the trees but the entire ecosystem, life. Not an isolated, academically dissected, sterilized, sampled, categorized, analyzed and killed birch.
I dont blame this woman for this article, I blame Mr Seed for elevating an individuals life as a example of universal growth and excellence. She is fine, doing her thing, but why is it here?
Lowering the bar has destroyed art as a vital part of human culture. It is no longer relevant except in keeping aunt kitty busy and happy. Do you really think this is what the makers of the art, known and unknown, wanted their works to be?

The Academic/museo/gallery complex is to blame, it is all about career and profit, lifestyle and entertaining the blind rich, its now for snake oil salesmen and old catladies. And humanity is slowly losing its soul. Sold, for less than thirty pieces of silver. Or a lot more, but definitely sold out.”

DonaldFrazell on May 23, 2012 at 11:16:28

“Put aside your "training' as Picasso did. Learn to see on all levels OUR world. this is her world, cute and furry, but irrelevant.

Art must have soul, to go with mind and body. This is sickly in only one. I am sure the local art society loves her.
As an artist WW is way past me. but i work large, very large, and have completley different skills and dintentions. I cant do small, I do public. It has to do with us, and when in public places does VERY well, but fighting the machine that controls them.

Great artists have always done well with the general public, at least what I call the top 20% of all ethnicities, religions, cultures and sexes that can get it, Which is about 60 million in htis country alone. Contempt gets only in the hundreds of thousands of degree weilding lemmings, and cute culture groups like this in the low millions, completely WASPy. But they control the money.”

DonaldFrazell on May 23, 2012 at 11:14:21

“Just looked up her old stuff, and the above is from a several eyar period. i stick with my assessment, she has nothing to say. doesnt matter how long one works or "skills" developed, the langauge of the visual, when one is empty and just living life as a fatcatlady. the world is beyond her reach. I dont care about art actually,

I see it as Cezanne did. It is for priests, or actually prophets. Ones who see their time truly and alive, not of a false past which most do. Its just smeared colored mud in patterns with meaning, With this lady, just smeared mud. Its not alive, which is built from relationships to give energy. she has none. The art world doesnt want any, that would rock the boat, and as it has gaping holes, it is bailing out fast a sinking ship. You cant plug the holes with millions of bought art degrees, it only takes a few. And the museo/gallery/gacademic complex will fall. It has before.”
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