“There is likely to be a lot of discrimination against veterans similar to post Vietnam. The usual stereotyping, the same ignorance and desire not to know. Hopefully we can learn from what others have experienced and avoid this.”
“Problem with using 'fascism' (it is a good fit) is that neocons tie it to socialism (speciously, but they do it nonetheless) by pointing out that the nazis were originally called National Socialists. It's a stupid argument, but when reduced to slogans and repeated ad infinitum it serves to scare the unwary. There's a really obnoxious little tract out by a neocon called 'Liberal Fascism'. It's obvious where this will lead, so we need more accurate and evocative words to describe what is happening. Perhaps 'corporatism'? State sponsored corporate malfeasance?”
vipersdad on Apr 1, 2008 at 12:24:48
“Agree with your comments. I would add that there was nothing socialistic about Nazi-ism in the strictest sense of the word "socialism." The fact is that many of the most prosperous countries in the world have adopted socialistic models. Note that we used to hear that their citizenry (scandanavia, Canada, etc...) paid HUGE percentages of their income in taxes.
If you add up all my witholdings for health care, disability, etc, and add taxes on top of them, I pay a higher percentage of my gross salary in "taxes and witholdings" than my Canadian relatives do.
The word "Socialism" has been used as a boogeyman for years and even progressives are afraid of it. I think it's time to re-brand it.
Big business hates socialistic thinking because they feel it shackles them. But how is it that the same multinational corporations who fight "socialism" simultaneously operate in these so-called "socialist countries" at handsome profits? Look at BP, Shell Oil, and many big Pharma companies - they are doing nicely in Scandanavia, Canada, etc... We need to change the thinking about the role of government here. The Reagan Revolution was possibly the worst thing to happen to the American Economy in the last half of the 20th century.”
“Why not just refuse to allow yourself to worry so much about what others think? If you refuse to collaborate by giving in to pressure (real or imagined) through fretting over ideas that don't address your own individual experience, perhaps you can devote more time to really important issues.”
joekonn on Apr 1, 2008 at 12:30:42
“I hear that!
Wisdom is not a commodity offered at University. You will not find it in your head, or in books alone. Wisdom must be sought after in the fields of real life, and requires the use of heart and soul as well as mind, and it requires commitment and time. Most settle for religion, or 'free market capitalism', or feminism, or some -ism, for law school or a career.
Sex can be a door to Wisdom, because when you hold your child in your arms, and truly experience that new person, you are overwhelmed by the mystery of life and by the incredible optimism of the Universe.”
“Where is the data you cite? How do you know this?”
nikto on Apr 1, 2008 at 13:52:17
I smell a GOP troll--The odor is strong.”
LeanLeftAmerica on Apr 1, 2008 at 11:51:34
“The devalued dollar is is a quick google search... try it. Try exchanging your US dollar for a Swiss Franc or Euro and you'll have their data validated. Europe and Asia are doing their best to keep this country afloat because 1) they own quite a bit of it (America) and it stands to reason that they would want to protect their investment. And 2) They need American consumers to buy their goods. If you have ever bought anything from China, you have paid into a successful (profitable) financial system based on Socialism. One reason Oil is so costly is because China needs it as much as we do, and they have more spending power... do you also need data showing you how costly fuel is in this day and age? I hope not.”
“If you would trouble yourself, please back up your assertions with facts. And do try to present them honestly in a way that actually addresses the arguments offered by the author of the post. Otherwise we just get the usual Republican drivel.”
“Not as long as the electorate remains in it's current state of infantile hypnosis and bondage to 'entertainment'. Many people don't even read books and can't absorb knowledge that isn't prepackaged to taste good and digest easily. And we've come to embrace (with our actions, never mind the moralistic claptrap that comes out of our mouths) the ethic of 'get mine while I can and to hell with the suckers out of the loop'.”
“Agreed. Since the very beginning, large private financial interests have held undue influence over the US government. That is undemocratic, hence Un-American. The 'socialism' and 'communism' epithets are red herrings.”
Suzie813 on Apr 1, 2008 at 10:45:28
“True - try the term fascism, it is a much better fit. Check out the definition for fascism in Wikipedia. Under the subheading entitled economic planning it states that "Profit is private and individual. Loss is public and social." Apply that to what you know of the Bear Sterns bail out.”
“A bit of advice: if you don't really have any evidence to back up your arguments, it is better to admit that as soon as possible. And Latin phrases such as 'post hoc ergo propter hoc' may impress the uneducated, but many can recognize them for what they learned as sophomores in high school. It makes you come across as an arrogant fool (synonym for Republican these days).
The molecular structures of dimethyl mercury (a deadly poison that can penetrate rubber gloves) and thimerosal ( a known toxin) are similar enough to warrant further research into their mechanisms of toxicity (including partitioning in tissues and other pharmacodynamics). This is information one with your evident bias should have at their fingertips. And yet all we get are snide, sophomoric remarks. Hope this isn't too ad hominem for your refined sensibilities.”
“I suspect it wouldn't surprise you to learn that 'social darwinism' in the medical profession is relatively common, as are favorable attitudes towards eugenics. Of course these people tend to regard themselves as the ideal types, similar to neocons.”
LBKN on Mar 30, 2008 at 11:38:51
“... Yes... the pigs walking on two legs... more equal than others.”
“If I may be so bold as to say "Duh!" Did you see anyone claiming mercury is good for you? Strawman much?
The issue in this thread is primarily do childhood vaccines currently cause Autism? And, since Thimerosal was removed from childhood vaccines years ago, if there was a correlation there would have been a dramatic drop in Autism in recent years--and there hasn't been.”
“Also, the nobody's perfect remark is somewhat inappropriate, since 'perfection' isn't what is wanted. Most patients would be satisfied with mere competence. As the level of education rises the population is becoming increasingly aware that gross incompetence in the 'helping professions' is ubiquitous. The reactions to this by the industry aren't very confidence inspiring, to say the least.”
“The medical profession doesn't really use science all the time, (>50% of 'treatments' have no scientific evidence to support their efficacy). It's almost something of a benefit that physicians have so little time for their patients. Less opportunity to mislead them. Better to endure their rudeness and get out while you can, start educating yourself. Too bad it's so hard to get unbiased information. We should make biostatistics and clinical trials design mandatory subjects for high school students. It would raise educational standards (because the prerequisites required would raise the bar) and the knowledge itself would hepl people to avoid falling prey to the medical 'professionals'.”
melann830 on Apr 2, 2008 at 23:36:42
“You have expressed my beliefs exquisitely. Truly a sensible, compassionate soul.”
“It's not too surprising that the people responsible for this mess are looking to the rest of us to absorb the cost. But there's no reason why we should, and every reason to suspect that efforts to force us to do so will be coming along soon. The taxpayers will be left holding the bag, many of whom could not afford decent housing in any case.”