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Tibet: Polar Perspectives. Can Both Sides Be Heard?

Tibet: Polar Perspectives. Can Both Sides Be Heard?

Commented Apr 24, 2009 at 18:00:22 in World

“Luce's report reads like a standard state media report from China. With nothing new, it 's a laundry list of one sided, public relations, damage control, unsubstantiated facts and state claims about the improved conditions of Tibetans. I fail to understand how forced indoctrination into Chinese culture, language and rule, with the banning of ancient Tibetan traditions and rituals and the repression of Buddhist monastic systems of education could possibly be construed as a positive outcome for Tibetans? His stereotype that Tibetans were nothing but ignorant slaves toiling under the domination of one per-cent of the nobility is the Chinese government's justification for invasion. That's no different than the Missionaries' rationalization that the Indigenous people prior to Columbus's discovery in 1492 were primitive savages in need of Christian salvation and civilization. Since then, discoveries of artifacts have proven there were highly civilized and advanced populations living in North America going back as far as 30-40,000 years.

China's historical claim to Tibet is equally misleading. In my research into ancient Chinese and Tibetan relations, I've uncovered some very interesting facts. One tidbit. In 781, during the T'ang Dynasty (618-906), the Dunhuang records reveal that Dunhuang, once the capital of China, surrendered to the Tibetans after ten years' resistance. when Chinese rule was restored in 848, one local family assumed power, to be followed in the tenth century by other powerful clans. Dunhuang fell into hands of the Mongol Yuan dynasty from 1271-1368)”

FairTalk on Apr 24, 2009 at 22:28:31

“>I fail to understand how forced indoctrination into Chinese culture, language and rule, with the banning of ancient Tibetan traditions and rituals and the repression of Buddhist monastic systems of education could possibly be construed as a positive outcome for Tibetans? <


1. Just because one is ethnic Tibetan, do you believe they must be Tibetan Buddhists? Couldn't choose to be follow Islam, Christianity, Bon?

In fact there are Tibetans who are Christian, Bon, etc, and they should not have to live in a theocracy.

2. "Tibetans," today are free to observe many old traditions. Prostrations are not banned. But torture has, indeed, been ended. Law is not based on "Tibetan" Budhist "beliefs" in Karma, but on the rule of law. Monks cannot gouge out eyes because you looked at them funny. Nor can they give someone 1000 lashes, and then, when he dies the next day, avoid responsibility, (and bad Karma) by claiming he died of natural causes, not the lashing.

In addition, monks can no longer "confiscate" children for the monestary.

3. The true fact is most families in Tibet want their children to learn Chinese as well as Tibetan. Schools in Tibetan "areas" not only Tibet are bilingual. Where Tibetans are the predominat population, Chinese is the second language.

4. The Chinese support Tibetan monestaries.

5. Setting fires that result in burning 5 young shoppe girls alive is a crime punishible with death. One cannot claim they died because of their own mistake not to run away.”